Be careful,

According to the protocol,your max for 120 lbs would be 10 gms/day not 20.

Gord

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "petedeebird" <petedeebird@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello to all.  I am at week 10 this week and feel pretty good.  I
> started salt/c March 25th, 2006.  I weigh 120 lbs and am currently
> at 18 to 20 grams per day.  I have only had one really bad herx at
> week four which I already reported.  I am actually feeling better in
> small ways every day.  My dreadful sore throat and glands for four
> years has gone completely for about 5 weeks now.  I hope I am not
> speaking too soon but I am really noticing many things that are
> better in such a short time.  I was really depressed before and feel
> like that has been lifted.  Also, I would wake up terribly stopped
> and clogged up everyday and now it is just once in a while.  I have
> less fatique and seem to be thinking clearer.  I have also noticed
> that my fingernails are starting to look pink  and strong after many
> years of being fragile and thin and had unhealthy color.  The
> fingernails to me is the biggest thing because  they were a problem
> even before the lyme disease and I take it as a sign of my health
> inside.  I am taking the Celtic sea salt and really believe that the
> minerals are supplying my body what it has been craving.  I'm
> detoxing using sauna, yoga and deep breathing.  Also using
> probiotics, along with digestive enzymes, braggs apple cider
> venegar, kraut, multi vitamins with extra mag.,flax and olive oil.
> Been using tanning bed alot too if that makes a difference.
> Hopefully my immune system is getting in gear and all will continue
> to go well.  Need to say that I really appreciate the group and
> don't know where I would be or what I would do without you all.
> Thanks to everyone and I will keep on reading and learning.  Sandy
>

could be contact with larger # of people!
roger

--- annetodd777 <annetodd777@...> wrote:

> -
> Hi Naomi,
>
> Did Linda say why middle aged women and teachers and
> nurses were more
> likely to have this?-anne
>
>
>
>
> -- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "naomi1lh"
> <naomilh@...> wrote:
> >
> > Tonight on coasttocoastam Linda Molton Howe
> earthfiles.com gave a
> > report on Morgellens.  She will post something on
> her site soon.
> > Half also test positive for Lyme. Antibiotics
> don't affect it.
> > Mostly middle aged women get it.  Mostly teachers
> and nurses.  3
> > times as many nurses as teachers. Most from Ca Fla
> Texas, but all
> > over the world. Asking people to register with
> Morgellens Research
> > Foundation. (I didn't find it on the internet.)
> 4,000 people
> > already registered and growing fast.
> > Think I'll go take more salt.
> > Naomi
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, RRM
> <rmor67@> wrote:
> > >
> > > from the rife group.
> > > roger
> > >
> > > --- Michael Tigchelaar <michaeltigchelaar@>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > #3 hours 11 minutes
> > > >   #Morgellons Disease
> > > >   #Experimental / No known cure for this
> disease
> > > >   #The majority of individuals reporting
> symptoms of
> > > > Morgellons Disease reside in California,
> Texas, and
> > > > Florida.  Several distinct "cluster" areas of
> this
> > > > disease have been noted (in order of cluster
> > > > density) near Los Angeles, San Francisco,
> Houston,
> > > > Dallas, and Austin, Texas.
> > > >   #Physicians treating patients with this
> disease
> > > > believe that it involves a novel organism.
> This
> > > > organism has been difficult to identify, but
> appears
> > > > to infect individuals whose immune systems
> have been
> > > > altered by Lyme Disease, also known as Lyme
> > > > Borreliosis.
> > > >   #Most individuals with this disease report
> > > > non-healing skin lesions, which are associated
> with
> > > > highly unusual structures.  These structures
> can be
> > > > described as fiber-like or filamentous, and
> are the
> > > > most striking features of this disease.
> > > >   #Supplement (KAL brand) MSM. At least 8
> Grams per
> > > > day.
> > > >   duty 71.5
> > > > dwell 240
> > > > converge 2 .125
> > > > pulse .5 1
> > > >   5858.25 5856.375 4271.25 4264
> > > > 330 10000 7344 5000 1550
> > > > 1234 740 880 835 787 727
> > > > 160 500 1600
> > > >   5611, 4014, 3448,
> > > > 3347, 3176, 2929, 2867, 2855,
> > > > 2791, 2720, 2489, 2180
> > > > 1862, 1488, 880, 800,
> > > > 787, 728, 665, 464, 432,
> > > > 304, 120
> > > >
> > > > converge 0 0
> > > > duty 10
> > > > 30, 20, 8
> > > >   duty 71.5
> > > > dwell 300
> > > > 920, 2016, 625
> > > >
> > > >   http://www.truerife.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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Hi Naomi,

Did Linda say why middle aged women and teachers and nurses were more
likely to have this?-anne




-- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "naomi1lh" <naomilh@...> wrote:
>
> Tonight on coasttocoastam Linda Molton Howe earthfiles.com gave a
> report on Morgellens.  She will post something on her site soon.
> Half also test positive for Lyme. Antibiotics don't affect it.
> Mostly middle aged women get it.  Mostly teachers and nurses.  3
> times as many nurses as teachers. Most from Ca Fla Texas, but all
> over the world. Asking people to register with Morgellens Research
> Foundation. (I didn't find it on the internet.)  4,000 people
> already registered and growing fast.
> Think I'll go take more salt.
> Naomi
>
>
>
> --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, RRM <rmor67@> wrote:
> >
> > from the rife group.
> > roger
> >
> > --- Michael Tigchelaar <michaeltigchelaar@>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > #3 hours 11 minutes
> > >   #Morgellons Disease
> > >   #Experimental / No known cure for this disease
> > >   #The majority of individuals reporting symptoms of
> > > Morgellons Disease reside in California, Texas, and
> > > Florida.  Several distinct "cluster" areas of this
> > > disease have been noted (in order of cluster
> > > density) near Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston,
> > > Dallas, and Austin, Texas.
> > >   #Physicians treating patients with this disease
> > > believe that it involves a novel organism.  This
> > > organism has been difficult to identify, but appears
> > > to infect individuals whose immune systems have been
> > > altered by Lyme Disease, also known as Lyme
> > > Borreliosis.
> > >   #Most individuals with this disease report
> > > non-healing skin lesions, which are associated with
> > > highly unusual structures.  These structures can be
> > > described as fiber-like or filamentous, and are the
> > > most striking features of this disease.
> > >   #Supplement (KAL brand) MSM. At least 8 Grams per
> > > day.
> > >   duty 71.5
> > > dwell 240
> > > converge 2 .125
> > > pulse .5 1
> > >   5858.25 5856.375 4271.25 4264
> > > 330 10000 7344 5000 1550
> > > 1234 740 880 835 787 727
> > > 160 500 1600
> > >   5611, 4014, 3448,
> > > 3347, 3176, 2929, 2867, 2855,
> > > 2791, 2720, 2489, 2180
> > > 1862, 1488, 880, 800,
> > > 787, 728, 665, 464, 432,
> > > 304, 120
> > >
> > > converge 0 0
> > > duty 10
> > > 30, 20, 8
> > >   duty 71.5
> > > dwell 300
> > > 920, 2016, 625
> > >
> > >   http://www.truerife.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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>

Tonight on coasttocoastam Linda Molton Howe earthfiles.com gave a
report on Morgellens.  She will post something on her site soon.
Half also test positive for Lyme. Antibiotics don't affect it.
Mostly middle aged women get it.  Mostly teachers and nurses.  3
times as many nurses as teachers. Most from Ca Fla Texas, but all
over the world. Asking people to register with Morgellens Research
Foundation. (I didn't find it on the internet.)  4,000 people
already registered and growing fast.
Think I'll go take more salt.
Naomi



--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, RRM <rmor67@...> wrote:
>
> from the rife group.
> roger
>
> --- Michael Tigchelaar <michaeltigchelaar@...>
> wrote:
>
> > #3 hours 11 minutes
> >   #Morgellons Disease
> >   #Experimental / No known cure for this disease
> >   #The majority of individuals reporting symptoms of
> > Morgellons Disease reside in California, Texas, and
> > Florida.  Several distinct "cluster" areas of this
> > disease have been noted (in order of cluster
> > density) near Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston,
> > Dallas, and Austin, Texas.
> >   #Physicians treating patients with this disease
> > believe that it involves a novel organism.  This
> > organism has been difficult to identify, but appears
> > to infect individuals whose immune systems have been
> > altered by Lyme Disease, also known as Lyme
> > Borreliosis.
> >   #Most individuals with this disease report
> > non-healing skin lesions, which are associated with
> > highly unusual structures.  These structures can be
> > described as fiber-like or filamentous, and are the
> > most striking features of this disease.
> >   #Supplement (KAL brand) MSM. At least 8 Grams per
> > day.
> >   duty 71.5
> > dwell 240
> > converge 2 .125
> > pulse .5 1
> >   5858.25 5856.375 4271.25 4264
> > 330 10000 7344 5000 1550
> > 1234 740 880 835 787 727
> > 160 500 1600
> >   5611, 4014, 3448,
> > 3347, 3176, 2929, 2867, 2855,
> > 2791, 2720, 2489, 2180
> > 1862, 1488, 880, 800,
> > 787, 728, 665, 464, 432,
> > 304, 120
> >
> > converge 0 0
> > duty 10
> > 30, 20, 8
> >   duty 71.5
> > dwell 300
> > 920, 2016, 625
> >
> >   http://www.truerife.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> __________________________________________________
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Hi,
I have been on salt & C for nearly 18 months.  So far, all my standard blood
tests, including sodium/potassium ratio are completely normal.  I have them
monitored regularly.  My doctor is very happy with my progress and I believe
the salt & C is far less risky than all the side effects from abx and other
drugs.
Rosemary.

-----Original Message-----
From: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of storm_wit
Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2006 10:44 AM
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [lymestrategies] Too much salt?

I am using the sodium chloride tablets, and realsalt. I have read the
advanced section on how to do the protocol, but I still worry that
perhaps having too much sodium will imbalance my electrolytes. I
ordered some concentrace minerals, but it hasn't arrived yet. I also am
taking some magnesium chloride and making sure I get a little potassium
daily via bananas. Am I too paranoid, or what?





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never could type.
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--- annetodd777 <annetodd777@...> wrote:

> Hi Roger,
>
> Tried the below .com and was wondering if it is
> spelled another
> way?Thank You-anne
>
>
>
> --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, RRM
> <rmor67@...> wrote:
> >
> > try the pca-rx its cheaper and really workes good.
> > read www.maxmamlabs.com   sue massies on this
> group
> > sells it cheaper than the web page.it is even safe
> > when you are pregnant, a lot of autism kids use it
> > too.
> >
> > they also have bio guard and av-rx for virus.
> >
> > roger
> >
> > --- Nikki Heath <nkheath53@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone here do Chelation Therapy? It not
> only
> > > clears out toxins in your system but also cleans
> out
> > > the arteries and reduces the bad and ups the
> good
> > > cholesterol.
> > >
> > > I've been reading up on it since my dr wanted me
> to
> > > do
> > > IV Chealtion but it's too expensive. I've found
> > > liquid
> > > and pill chelation that I could take.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- haecklers <haecklers@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Phil,
> > > >
> > > > Do you have the name of the article about
> that?
> > > I'm
> > > > in another
> > > > group with Chris Mastersjohn, who is a huge
> > > advocate
> > > > of eating more
> > > > cholesterol (I think he's the one who wrote
> the
> > > > scathing review of
> > > > the book "China Study" on
> www.westonaprice.org).
> > > If
> > > > he hasn't seen
> > > > it, I'm sure he'd be interested.
> > > >
> > > > I love Chris's theories if for no other
> reason, it
> > > > means it's not
> > > > only ok, but healthy to slather butter on
> > > everything
> > > > and have whole
> > > > milk, cream, and the tasty greasy bits of meat
> > > that
> > > > get stuck to the
> > > > bottom of the pan.
> > > >
> > > > - Renate
> > > >
> > > > --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "Phil
> Rich"
> > > > <richp@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Renate,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, OUR arteries must be squeaky clean,
> huh!!
> > > > <grin> Just a
> > > > footnote,
> > > > > though. Doctors are finally admitting they
> got
> > > it
> > > > wrong about good
> > > > and bad
> > > > > cholesterol. They are finally admitting that
> bad
> > > > cholesterol isn't
> > > > by itself
> > > > > bad, and that it is the main tool used by
> the
> > > body
> > > > to repair
> > > > arteries/veins
> > > > > that are breaking down, like our own
> internal
> > > > version of spack-
> > > > filler. They
> > > > > are now saying that the plaque is actually a
> > > > result, not a cause,
> > > > of problem
> > > > > veins.
> > > > >
> > > > > Life is very strange sometimes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Hello Nikki -

I am glad you found us here because the folks here will steer you in
the right direction, so yes, you are on the right track in that
respect.  I believe others have provided some guidance to help you
better understand the dosing.  I just wanted to make sure you didn't
ramp up too quickly because that is what I did and it put me in a
wheelchair.  There is no such thing as a 72-hour remedy for Lyme
disease, short of perhaps an act of God. 

Take good care,

Melissa

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, Nikki Heath <nkheath53@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Melissa,
>
> I believe that I am on the right track somewhere. I
> found the protocol to begin with, which to me is a
> giant leap from taking long term abx.
>
> I found the protocol on another site stating "72-hour
> Remedy" for Lyme Disease. It suggested starting at 3
> doses and working up from there up to 12 doses for 72
> hours.
>
> Now, I realize that might be rapid dosage but it was
> the only thing I had to go by until I found also found
> Lymestrategies.
>
> I've only been off the protocol for one day so I
> really don't think that I've messed badly up at this
> point.
>
> --- Melissa <mm7810@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > You are NOT on the right track.  You do salt/C
> > everyday; not a round
> > every few days.  And you start with 1 gram per day,
> > after a week or so,
> > yo increase to 2 grams . . . . . not 6, then 8!  You
> > will herx like crap
> > otherwise.  I promise . . . . it'll catch up.  Get
> > the advanced members
> > e-book, follow the instructions in there, or go even
> > slower.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> >
> > --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "nkheath53"
> > <nkheath53@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I am a newbie to the group and have just taken my
> > first round of
> > > salt/vit C protocol. I was diagnosed with Lyme
> > disease last year
> > > after going through some tests for my Thyroid. I
> > took a round of
> > > antibiotics for 6 months last year, then another
> > round for 2 months
> > > this year. I've been off antibiotics for the past
> > month of my own
> > > volition. I have been having an issue with taking
> > too much
> > > antibiotics and prefer to use Colloidal Silver
> > and/or Samento.
> > > Oregano oil, Olive leaf and Cytolog, which
> > strengthens the immune
> > > system and helps the bones can also be helpful.
> > Also, this past
> > > month, I did a peroxide therapy.
> > >
> > > When I first found the Salt/Vitamin C Protocol
> > last week, I was
> > > excited. I wanted to attack these buggers and rid
> > myself of them
> > > once and for all. I started on Friday at the
> > starting dose. My
> > > reaction was extreme fatigue and felt slight
> > fluish symptoms. This
> > > encouraged me and continued Saturday, increasing
> > to 6 doses with the
> > > thought that the herx affect would worsen but it
> > didn't. I did
> > > notice I expelled some buggies but no herx to any
> > extreme. Sunday, I
> > > increased to 8 doses with the same results. The
> > only reason I can
> > > come up with is that I'm in a window where the bb
> > are not
> > > reproducing and the peroxide therapy expelled more
> > buggies than I
> > > realized. I intend to do another round in 3-5 days
> > and see what
> > > happens. I think I'm on the right track at least I
> > hope so. If
> > > anyone out there can confirm this, I would
> > appreciate it.
> > >
> > > My list of maladies are Lyme, hypothyroidism,
> > osteopenia (either
> > > progressed due to the Lyme or the synthetic
> > thyroid medication), I
> > > am currently taking a lot of calcium and have
> > switched to a natural
> > > thyroid med so we'll see how that goes. I also
> > have metal toxins in
> > > my system, which is why I did the peroxide
> > therapy.
> > >
> > > If anyone one has any other suggestions, please
> > let me know. I have
> > > checked out just about everything that is natural.
> > I am wary and try
> > > to avoid prescriptions drugs due to negative past
> > experience.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Hi All,
Well, about a month ago I finally began tx for newly discovered WA-1
babesiosis. After 3 years of daily fevers and being so sick despite
being on 9 months of 12 sal/C I got a firm diagnosis for this newer
strain. I have always had babesis microti but have been tx for it
manyu times. I was put on 3 tsp mepron a dau ( a much higher dose), 2
septra a day ( I have never been on it despit 17 years of all meds) 1
zithromax a day and omeprozole 1 a day for my stomach and 1,500 mg
artemisinim 3 times a day. YES, it is a lot but I was told this is
harder to treat and more serious especially for me with a severely
depressed immune system. I began to become very nauseous within a
week of tx with lesions all over my legs, they don't hurt but are
dark red, fairly small and ALL over both legs. I was told to goo off
everything except pain meds which surprisingly seemed a little better
for the very first time in 3 long years. Also, to my surprise, my
liver function tests were elevated which has NEVER happened to me
despit so may years being on EVERY other drug. My pain came back with
such a vengence that I am having a very hard time even trying to be
on top of it despite taking all doses allowed including breakthrough
pain, severe nerve pain but now it seems in every CELL in my body. I
am to have another lab tomarrow which I am sure will be normal off
all meds since it alreday was getting much better after being tested
only 2 days off all meds. I just left an urgent message for my LLMD.
I fell asleep at 3:45 pm because i was awake most of the night with
some level of pain and I really wanted to get to him before he left
the office for the day. The on call operator took a call from me at
6pm, I am SO hoping HE is on call tonight so that I can inform him of
this drastic elevation in my pain and perhaps be able to begin a very
low dose of something to treat this awful disease I have been in the
dark about for so long. My temp is 101, not unusual. I am wondering
IF I could even be in some kind of a herx because i was told mepron
stays on the system for a few weeks. No matter, I need direction.
While I am anxiously waiting, does anyone have any thoughts. I have
been through SO much after just being in the hospital for 2 months to
treat infection in my heart and then becoming allergic to septra and
suffering with severe nausea and some vomiting DESPITE taking zofran.
That finally calmed down after almost 21/2 weeks and now the horrible
pain. Coming off all treatment must be very hard on my body. I have
this serious babesiosis now to finally treat very aggressively and my
LLMD wants me to substitute flagyl 500 mg THREE times a day instead
of septra when I can begin. I am also anxiously waiting for my
delivery of artemisinim since I ran out. Just very scared and need
somebody to let me know that you are out there. I only took 1 dose of
salt/C yesterday and I have had this pain way before I started that
again.
Thanks to all.
Love,
Helen fasy






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Tried the below .com and was wondering if it is spelled another
way?Thank You-anne



--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, RRM <rmor67@...> wrote:
>
> try the pca-rx its cheaper and really workes good.
> read www.maxmamlabs.com   sue massies on this group
> sells it cheaper than the web page.it is even safe
> when you are pregnant, a lot of autism kids use it
> too.
>
> they also have bio guard and av-rx for virus.
>
> roger
>
> --- Nikki Heath <nkheath53@...> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone here do Chelation Therapy? It not only
> > clears out toxins in your system but also cleans out
> > the arteries and reduces the bad and ups the good
> > cholesterol.
> >
> > I've been reading up on it since my dr wanted me to
> > do
> > IV Chealtion but it's too expensive. I've found
> > liquid
> > and pill chelation that I could take.
> >
> >
> > --- haecklers <haecklers@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Phil,
> > >
> > > Do you have the name of the article about that?
> > I'm
> > > in another
> > > group with Chris Mastersjohn, who is a huge
> > advocate
> > > of eating more
> > > cholesterol (I think he's the one who wrote the
> > > scathing review of
> > > the book "China Study" on www.westonaprice.org).
> > If
> > > he hasn't seen
> > > it, I'm sure he'd be interested.
> > >
> > > I love Chris's theories if for no other reason, it
> > > means it's not
> > > only ok, but healthy to slather butter on
> > everything
> > > and have whole
> > > milk, cream, and the tasty greasy bits of meat
> > that
> > > get stuck to the
> > > bottom of the pan.
> > >
> > > - Renate
> > >
> > > --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Rich"
> > > <richp@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Renate,
> > > >
> > > > Yes, OUR arteries must be squeaky clean, huh!!
> > > <grin> Just a
> > > footnote,
> > > > though. Doctors are finally admitting they got
> > it
> > > wrong about good
> > > and bad
> > > > cholesterol. They are finally admitting that bad
> > > cholesterol isn't
> > > by itself
> > > > bad, and that it is the main tool used by the
> > body
> > > to repair
> > > arteries/veins
> > > > that are breaking down, like our own internal
> > > version of spack-
> > > filler. They
> > > > are now saying that the plaque is actually a
> > > result, not a cause,
> > > of problem
> > > > veins.
> > > >
> > > > Life is very strange sometimes.
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Hi Jill,
Personally, I would not like to see anyone go through chemo.  I have read
that chemo only has a 3% success rate!!!!  If a natural therapy had such a
low success rate, people would be put in jail!  I believe cancers occur
where there is deficiency and toxicity.  The Gerson clinic have been
treating cancers safely for decades using diet, fresh juices and coffee
enemas.  The coffee enemas are wonderful for detoxing any type of cancer.
Check out www.Gerson.com and www.hacres.com See if there are any testimonies
on these sites of recovery from Lymphoma.  People end up at Gerson etc often
in the very last stages of cancer, and often they recover completely.
Just my 2 cents worth,
Rosemary.

-----Original Message-----
From: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of cactuskickers
Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2006 10:23 AM
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [lymestrategies] Off topic - adjuncts for lymphoma

Hi,
If anyone out there has strong knowledge on this, please answer my
questions below.

.....


I need to be able to help someone beginning chemo for non Hodgkins
lymphoma.   I don't want to make ANY mistakes.

Can Rife or the Photon Genie be used at the same time as the chemo
protocol?  Does either one really help with cancer?

Any vitamins they should specially take or avoid?

Are coffee enemas helpful for detox?

Anyone know of some reliable published books or reports I can obtain
to have this project go successfully.

Thank you.

CJ






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I had the same worries starting out.  I read Marc Kurlansky's
book "Salt: A World History" and found out our ancestors, because they
used salt to preserve their meat and vegetables, ate upwards of 40
grams of it a day!!!!  So, no, it's not a dangerous amount, unless
you're one of the rare birds who have a hypertensive reaction to it,
which is why you should up it slowly and be observant.  I use
RealSalt, and have never noticed it making me retain water, which used
to be a problem for me before salt/c.

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "storm_wit"
<coldcomfortfarm@...> wrote:
>
> I am using the sodium chloride tablets, and realsalt. I have read
the
> advanced section on how to do the protocol, but I still worry that
> perhaps having too much sodium will imbalance my electrolytes. I
> ordered some concentrace minerals, but it hasn't arrived yet. I also
am
> taking some magnesium chloride and making sure I get a little
potassium
> daily via bananas. Am I too paranoid, or what?
>

According to Holley Pharmaceuticals, www.holleypharma.com you can
take artemisinin with chemo just not radiation.  They say it's ten
times stronger with the butyric acid (amino acid) supplement.  It's
supposed to kill cancer cells on contact.  The best studies on
artemisinin are with it mis-spelled, but even those are disappearing
from google searches.  Weird how that happens.  Someone shared one
from a journal when I first started about an Indian doctor who was
treating cancer patients with it.  She only gave it to some for a
week, and a month later the huge tumors were gone, healed.  There
are some weaker brands out there that don't work as well, quality
control isn't a strong point for some.  Holley claims their is being
used for research on dogs currently for cancer.

Ozone therapy is also supposed to be very good for cancer.  It
instantly makes the blood alkaline.

Hope that helps!

- Renate

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "cactuskickers"
<jillallen@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> If anyone out there has strong knowledge on this, please answer my
> questions below.
>
> .....
>
>
> I need to be able to help someone beginning chemo for non Hodgkins
> lymphoma.   I don't want to make ANY mistakes.
>
> Can Rife or the Photon Genie be used at the same time as the chemo
> protocol?  Does either one really help with cancer?
>
> Any vitamins they should specially take or avoid?
>
> Are coffee enemas helpful for detox?
>
> Anyone know of some reliable published books or reports I can
obtain
> to have this project go successfully.
>
> Thank you.
>
> CJ
>

Hi Helen, You are in my thoughts and sending you Healing blessings.
            Big hugs to you. Joyce

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "Melissa" <mm7810@...> wrote:
>
>
> Helen -
>
> My heart goes out to you, my dear.  You have been through sooooooooo
> much; I wish I could say "Here, take this magic bullet", but alas, I'm
> not that smart.  I do believe you will win in the end and everyone here
> will be your cheerleading squad until you emerge the victor!  We won't
> give up on you, so you please don't give up on you [for us, if nothing
> else].
> --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "vibranthelen" <reachhi38@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > Well, about a month ago I finally began tx for newly discovered WA-1
> > babesiosis. After 3 years of daily fevers and being so sick despite
> > being on 9 months of 12 sal/C I got a firm diagnosis for this newer
> > strain. I have always had babesis microti but have been tx for it
> > manyu times. I was put on 3 tsp mepron a dau ( a much higher dose), 2
> > septra a day ( I have never been on it despit 17 years of all meds) 1
> > zithromax a day and omeprozole 1 a day for my stomach and 1,500 mg
> > artemisinim 3 times a day. YES, it is a lot but I was told this is
> > harder to treat and more serious especially for me with a severely
> > depressed immune system. I began to become very nauseous within a
> > week of tx with lesions all over my legs, they don't hurt but are
> > dark red, fairly small and ALL over both legs. I was told to goo off
> > everything except pain meds which surprisingly seemed a little better
> > for the very first time in 3 long years. Also, to my surprise, my
> > liver function tests were elevated which has NEVER happened to me
> > despit so may years being on EVERY other drug. My pain came back with
> > such a vengence that I am having a very hard time even trying to be
> > on top of it despite taking all doses allowed including breakthrough
> > pain, severe nerve pain but now it seems in every CELL in my body. I
> > am to have another lab tomarrow which I am sure will be normal off
> > all meds since it alreday was getting much better after being tested
> > only 2 days off all meds. I just left an urgent message for my LLMD.
> > I fell asleep at 3:45 pm because i was awake most of the night with
> > some level of pain and I really wanted to get to him before he left
> > the office for the day. The on call operator took a call from me at
> > 6pm, I am SO hoping HE is on call tonight so that I can inform him of
> > this drastic elevation in my pain and perhaps be able to begin a very
> > low dose of something to treat this awful disease I have been in the
> > dark about for so long. My temp is 101, not unusual. I am wondering
> > IF I could even be in some kind of a herx because i was told mepron
> > stays on the system for a few weeks. No matter, I need direction.
> > While I am anxiously waiting, does anyone have any thoughts. I have
> > been through SO much after just being in the hospital for 2 months to
> > treat infection in my heart and then becoming allergic to septra and
> > suffering with severe nausea and some vomiting DESPITE taking zofran.
> > That finally calmed down after almost 21/2 weeks and now the horrible
> > pain. Coming off all treatment must be very hard on my body. I have
> > this serious babesiosis now to finally treat very aggressively and my
> > LLMD wants me to substitute flagyl 500 mg THREE times a day instead
> > of septra when I can begin. I am also anxiously waiting for my
> > delivery of artemisinim since I ran out. Just very scared and need
> > somebody to let me know that you are out there. I only took 1 dose of
> > salt/C yesterday and I have had this pain way before I started that
> > again.
> > Thanks to all.
> > Love,
> > Helen fasy
> >
>

Why do my messages seem to get cut off????

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "Melissa" <mm7810@...> wrote:
>
>
> Helen -
>
> My heart goes out to you, my dear. You have been through sooooooooo
> much; I wish I could say "Here, take this magic bullet", but alas, I'm
> not that smart. I do believe you will win in the end and everyone here
> will be your cheerleading squad until you emerge the victor! We won't
> give up on you, so you please don't give up on you [for us, if nothing
> else].
> --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "vibranthelen" reachhi38@
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > Well, about a month ago I finally began tx for newly discovered WA-1
> > babesiosis. After 3 years of daily fevers and being so sick despite
> > being on 9 months of 12 sal/C I got a firm diagnosis for this newer
> > strain. I have always had babesis microti but have been tx for it
> > manyu times. I was put on 3 tsp mepron a dau ( a much higher dose), 2
> > septra a day ( I have never been on it despit 17 years of all meds) 1
> > zithromax a day and omeprozole 1 a day for my stomach and 1,500 mg
> > artemisinim 3 times a day. YES, it is a lot but I was told this is
> > harder to treat and more serious especially for me with a severely
> > depressed immune system. I began to become very nauseous within a
> > week of tx with lesions all over my legs, they don't hurt but are
> > dark red, fairly small and ALL over both legs. I was told to goo off
> > everything except pain meds which surprisingly seemed a little better
> > for the very first time in 3 long years. Also, to my surprise, my
> > liver function tests were elevated which has NEVER happened to me
> > despit so may years being on EVERY other drug. My pain came back with
> > such a vengence that I am having a very hard time even trying to be
> > on top of it despite taking all doses allowed including breakthrough
> > pain, severe nerve pain but now it seems in every CELL in my body. I
> > am to have another lab tomarrow which I am sure will be normal off
> > all meds since it alreday was getting much better after being tested
> > only 2 days off all meds. I just left an urgent message for my LLMD.
> > I fell asleep at 3:45 pm because i was awake most of the night with
> > some level of pain and I really wanted to get to him before he left
> > the office for the day. The on call operator took a call from me at
> > 6pm, I am SO hoping HE is on call tonight so that I can inform him of
> > this drastic elevation in my pain and perhaps be able to begin a very
> > low dose of something to treat this awful disease I have been in the
> > dark about for so long. My temp is 101, not unusual. I am wondering
> > IF I could even be in some kind of a herx because i was told mepron
> > stays on the system for a few weeks. No matter, I need direction.
> > While I am anxiously waiting, does anyone have any thoughts. I have
> > been through SO much after just being in the hospital for 2 months to
> > treat infection in my heart and then becoming allergic to septra and
> > suffering with severe nausea and some vomiting DESPITE taking zofran.
> > That finally calmed down after almost 21/2 weeks and now the horrible
> > pain. Coming off all treatment must be very hard on my body. I have
> > this serious babesiosis now to finally treat very aggressively and my
> > LLMD wants me to substitute flagyl 500 mg THREE times a day instead
> > of septra when I can begin. I am also anxiously waiting for my
> > delivery of artemisinim since I ran out. Just very scared and need
> > somebody to let me know that you are out there. I only took 1 dose of
> > salt/C yesterday and I have had this pain way before I started that
> > again.
> > Thanks to all.
> > Love,
> > Helen fasy
> >
>

Wonderful. Good Luck

--- storm_wit <coldcomfortfarm@...> wrote:

> Thanks for the tip. I just went to the Walgreens and
> picked up a nice
> inexpensive tube of ichthammol. Excellent.
>
> --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, Nikki Heath
> <nkheath53@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know if you have any in your area but have
> you
> > ever heard of Ichthammol? It's a drawing salve.
> It's a
> > black tarrie salve that smells terrible but it
> works
> > great. You might try getting some of that at your
> drug
> > store or see if you can order it either at the
> store
> > or online.
> >
>
>
>
>
>


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roger



--- storm_wit <coldcomfortfarm@...> wrote:

> I am using the sodium chloride tablets, and
> realsalt. I have read the
> advanced section on how to do the protocol, but I
> still worry that
> perhaps having too much sodium will imbalance my
> electrolytes. I
> ordered some concentrace minerals, but it hasn't
> arrived yet. I also am
> taking some magnesium chloride and making sure I get
> a little potassium
> daily via bananas. Am I too paranoid, or what?
>
>
>
>


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I don't know if this will help or not but I checked
this out to help the metal toxins in my body and found
this information. I hope this helps.

http://stopcancer.com/oxygen.htm

http://www.allchelation.com/Articles/CancerChelation.htm

--- cactuskickers <jillallen@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If anyone out there has strong knowledge on this,
> please answer my
> questions below.
>
> .....
>
>
> I need to be able to help someone beginning chemo
> for non Hodgkins
> lymphoma.   I don't want to make ANY mistakes.
>
> Can Rife or the Photon Genie be used at the same
> time as the chemo
> protocol?  Does either one really help with cancer?
>
> Any vitamins they should specially take or avoid?
>
> Are coffee enemas helpful for detox?
>
> Anyone know of some reliable published books or
> reports I can obtain
> to have this project go successfully.
>
> Thank you.
>
> CJ
>
>
>
>


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I am using the sodium chloride tablets, and realsalt. I have read the
advanced section on how to do the protocol, but I still worry that
perhaps having too much sodium will imbalance my electrolytes. I
ordered some concentrace minerals, but it hasn't arrived yet. I also am
taking some magnesium chloride and making sure I get a little potassium
daily via bananas. Am I too paranoid, or what?