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Lyme Complex & "Layers"


I wanted to comment a little more on what Dana was noting:

While there have been few folks who have gotten "free" of lyme by just concentrating on nothing but Borrelia, it has been my own experience and that of others, that most folks must alleviate it by "peeling an onion" of other co-infectionary, or toxic (including metals) factors, to truly become free of it.

This is why one person may get relieved with a Doug rife device, or colloidal silver, or antibiotics, etc., etc, and others doing the same exact thing will not. 

Some folks will have their mind set on only Bb, and that the only reason it takes so long is, it "goes into cyst form".  This is true, it can go into cyst form.  But that is not the sole reason for its difficulty in eradicating.  For the syphilis spirochete, Bb's cousin, also goes into cyst form and, as Dr. Burgdorfer himself noted, that has been known for decades.  Yet, the syphilis bacteria is remedied just with dosing of penicillin.  In this regard, you can't blame doctors to a certain extent scratching their heads when Borrlia does not respond the same way.

And, understanding how microbial 'worms' (nematodes and nemamorphs as described at the lymephotos site), actually protect certain bacteria (even hold them inside them) as well as feed off them (not unlike the way we protect and feed on cattle or chickens as a "food source"), this appears to be at least one completely overlooked aspect of the prolongation of Bb infections.

I have not met anyone with lyme (including myself) who has not had co-infections.  And, there is evidence that the extent of co-infectionary microbes in society is simply more than what it was in the 80s and even early 90s. This includes the usual tick-related items like Babesia (and folks are usually only tested for the Microti strain when there's many others), Erlichia, Mycoplasma, Bartonella, Brucella, Coxsackie, Herpes 1-6a & 6b, Epstein Barr, Cytomegalo, Fungus, other protozoa, parasites, bacteria, etc.  It like a bad bug problem in a house.  You knock the ants back and mites come out.  Knock the mites back and roaches appear, knock the roaches back and the ants are back, round and round, etc., etc.

That's why we call it "lyme complex" instead of lyme disease here.  And, unless a person "peels the onion", and takes the "layers" off, methodically, it is very difficult for the body to truly get "on top of" the complex for good. 

Fortunately, the salt/C research protocol appears to have quite a broad-spectrum effect, not only on Bb (in its various forms) but also other microbes, and in knocking these out, allows a person to then "mop-up" whatever co-infectionary items that have been "stirred-up" or catalyzed by the Bb's effect.

All the best,

Marc
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Hello- Thanks so much for sharing this info. I've wondered about the salt and vit c protocol since its mention on the Lyme-and-rife group in the last few...
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Hi Dana, Welcome to the new board! Glad to see you here. ... Very welcome:-) ... Great! yeah, 1:32 fortunately, is not a high level of Bb. But with the lyme...
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I wanted to comment a little more on what Dana was noting: While there have been few folks who have gotten "free" of lyme by just concentrating on nothing but...
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I wanted to invite members to check out the "Links" section of this board. The website related to this board is there as well as a link to "Researchers Reports...
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Hi Marc- Thanks for the reply. I'm doing Andy's protocol with 25 mg each DMSA and ALA every 3 hours around the clock (currently 3 days on and 4 days off). Will...
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Dec 6, 2004
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Hi Dana, Yes, I meant to note the DMSA as well as the ALA. Yes, it should be fine, while still keeping an eye on the potential of a herx from each. But the...
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Thanks Marc. I'll keep you posted. I've been off all of this for a couple of weeks because we're moving. I should be organized enough to get back on the...
Dana Black
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Hi Dana, ... Yes, please keep me tagged. That's not a bad point about trying the s/c alone to get a sense of it. BTW, it is possible, even at a low starting...
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Hi, new to group. This sounds great, One question: What does this protocol do to the bowels? Do you end up sh--- like a goose? Thanks for the help Byran ...
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Hi Teresa, Welcome to the board - good to see you here:-) ... LOL! Yeah, there can be for some, a period of "wearing out a path to the litterbox" (LOL!) The...
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