How exactly should one go about doing these kegal exersizes I keep
trying but I dont know what exactly Im suppost to be doing or if Im
doing it right. Nothing really seems to be happening I just dont
exactly know which mussell group Im suppost to be squeezing. help.

I do not know if I am in the "right" group for this question, but
here goes, I am 33 yrs old and had a part. hyst. last year. One year
before my hyst. and to this day I frequently get either bacterial
infections , yeast infections or bladder infections after intercorse
with my husband, not all the time, but enought to make this a big
pain. I have a bladder infection right now and I am treating it with
a natural remedy, it was going away and I was feeling fine, untill a
few hours ago and it feels like it is coming back...sigh..?? does
anyone have any advice or answers on why this happpens? I have been
to the doc. and they really dont tell me much except that our body
chem. does not mix? We have been together for 12 years, why is this
happening now?
Thank you
Chris

I do not know if I am in the "right" group for this question, but
here goes, I am 33 yrs old and had a part. hyst. last year. One year
before my hyst. and to this day I frequently get either bacterial
infections , yeast infections or bladder infections after intercorse
with my husband, not all the time, but enought to make this a big
pain. I have a bladder infection right now and I am treating it with
a natural remedy, it was going away and I was feeling fine, untill a
few hours ago and it feels like it is coming back...sigh..?? does
anyone have any advice or answers on why this happpens? I have been
to the doc. and they really dont tell me much except that our body
chem. does not mix? We have been together for 12 years, why is this
happening now?
Thank you
Chris

----- Original Message -----

From: Carol

To: kegels@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 4:55 PM

Subject: [kegels] Re: kegals

Hi there - I have started doing kegels.  My PT told me to contract
and release - the release is what I am supposed to focus on - the
relaxing phase of the pelvic muscles.  My pelvic muscles don't relax
and are always *up* so to speak - just like your shoulders would be
if you were tense all the time, which I am.  Is that your problem
too ?  Mine is vestibulitis - and the first phase of trying to cure
that is doing kegels to relax the muscles down there.  Caroline.

--- In kegels@yahoogroups.com, "latnluvsbaby" <latnluvsbaby@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> Ok , I'm confused are you supposed to squeeze the muscle or kinda
of
> like pull it back up inside you(contract). I contract it like I'm
> pulling it up inside me, not squeeze it as to push it outward. But
> when I contract it, it doesn't let me hold it for 10sec, I
contract
> and it just realeases. This is very fustrating that I can't hold
it
> for even 3 seconds. Does anyone else have this problem and am I
> doing them right? I can squeeze them outward as to push for 10 sec
> or more but I don't think that's right either. Help.

Hi there - I have started doing kegels.  My PT told me to contract
and release - the release is what I am supposed to focus on - the
relaxing phase of the pelvic muscles.  My pelvic muscles don't relax
and are always *up* so to speak - just like your shoulders would be
if you were tense all the time, which I am.  Is that your problem
too ?  Mine is vestibulitis - and the first phase of trying to cure
that is doing kegels to relax the muscles down there.  Caroline.

--- In kegels@yahoogroups.com, "latnluvsbaby" <latnluvsbaby@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> Ok , I'm confused are you supposed to squeeze the muscle or kinda
of
> like pull it back up inside you(contract). I contract it like I'm
> pulling it up inside me, not squeeze it as to push it outward. But
> when I contract it, it doesn't let me hold it for 10sec, I
contract
> and it just realeases. This is very fustrating that I can't hold
it
> for even 3 seconds. Does anyone else have this problem and am I
> doing them right? I can squeeze them outward as to push for 10 sec
> or more but I don't think that's right either. Help.

Hi there - I have seen a PT for this - see specializes in peliv muscle
therapy.  You can practice by doing the following:  when you begin to
pee, try to stop midway and then release the pee.  This is the muscle
you need to contract and then release.  I have vestibulitis and
apparently need to learn to relax my pelvic muscles before any work
can begin on the vestibultis problem.  I try to tense and release
whenever I think of it - at best every 12 minutes or 5 times an hour.
It did help though to have the doctor show me if I was tensing from
the right place...  your bum should not be squeezing when you do this.
  If you stick your finger in there (vagina), you should be able to
feel a slight squeeze.  Then you know you are doing it right.  It
takes alot of concentration not only to squeeze, but to release the
pelvic muscle completley (resting).  Carol.


--- In kegels@yahoogroups.com, "j_ngarong" <j_ngarong@y...> wrote:
> I have been having trouble isolating my pelvic floor muscles.  It
> was suggested that I try a physical therapist to manuslly show me
> how to do this and possibly use electric stim and or biofeedback to
> help.  Has anyone had this treatment? What is it like?  Did it help?
>
> J_Ngarong

Hello everybody,
I'm new to this group. The main reason why I
subscribed to this group is, premature ejecuation. Due
to this problem, I'm not able to enjoy the lovemaking.
i have red about some exercises which can help cure
this problem and give better self control.
I have internet access only from office so I cannot
visit such sites to get the information. May I request
the members here to copy- paste the information from
such sites which can be helpful for me? Again, no URL
or links please since I would not be able to load them
in the browser.
(I'm 30 yo male, if this helps)
many thanks,
/RD



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Thank you, glad to at least know I'm doing them right.


--- In kegels@yahoogroups.com, "John D. Perry, PhD" <DryDoc@B...>
wrote:
>  it doesn't let me hold it for 10sec, I contract
> and it just realeases.
>
> That's a sure sign that you need more practice at 10 second
contractions.
> It is not at all unusual to have no endurance (i.e., less than 3
second
> holds) but in a couple week's time you should be getting
measurably longer
> contractions.  You are on the right track!
>
> John Perry, PhD
> BCIA Certified in Pelvic Muscle Biofeedback
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: latnluvsbaby
> Date: 11/19/04 10:41:08
> To: kegels@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [kegels] kegals
>
>
>
> Ok , I'm confused are you supposed to squeeze the muscle or kinda
of
> like pull it back up inside you(contract). I contract it like I'm
> pulling it up inside me, not squeeze it as to push it outward. But
> when I contract it, it doesn't let me hold it for 10sec, I contract
> and it just realeases. This is very fustrating that I can't hold it
> for even 3 seconds. Does anyone else have this problem and am I
> doing them right? I can squeeze them outward as to push for 10 sec
> or more but I don't think that's right either. Help.
>
>
>
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Ok , I'm confused are you supposed to squeeze the muscle or kinda of
like pull it back up inside you(contract). I contract it like I'm
pulling it up inside me, not squeeze it as to push it outward. But
when I contract it, it doesn't let me hold it for 10sec, I contract
and it just realeases. This is very fustrating that I can't hold it
for even 3 seconds. Does anyone else have this problem and am I
doing them right? I can squeeze them outward as to push for 10 sec
or more but I don't think that's right either. Help.

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The Kegel Pro is completely different from the Kegelmaster.  I have used
both.  The Kegel Pro only has 1 setting and it wouldn't even open up in
order for me to begin exercising so was completely useless.  The
Kegelmaster has 15 different settings.  Your vaginal muscles can not
continue to strengthen with only 1 setting.  I couldn't even find a money
back guarantee for the Kegel Pro.

Sandy


At 02:31 PM 8/23/2004 +0000, you wrote:

>The Kegel Pro Vaginal Exerciser is apparently different from the
>Kegelmaster.  Has anyone used this and can you tell me how well it
>worked and what the differences are between the Pro and the Master?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

The Kegel Pro Vaginal Exerciser is apparently different from the
Kegelmaster.  Has anyone used this and can you tell me how well it
worked and what the differences are between the Pro and the Master?

>
> There is 1 message in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
>       1. VT
>            From: "Lois" <butterflyangel76@...>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 04:34:01 -0000
>    From: "Lois" <butterflyangel76@...>
> Subject: VT
>
> Okay... this is driving me crazy!  For the life of me, I can't figure
> out what VT is..??!!??  Does anyone know?  Aside from the Vermont
> thing... could it be Vaginal ___ ??  Help..
>
> Frustrated,
> lois_lane_forever
>
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Okay... this is driving me crazy!  For the life of me, I can't figure
out what VT is..??!!??  Does anyone know?  Aside from the Vermont
thing... could it be Vaginal ___ ??  Help..

Frustrated,
lois_lane_forever

Recently had an experience with VT... U guys should check it out- they say
its more common than people realize- so many women have it and it goes
untreated and sometimes- vert rarely- it can kill u-- google it  VT
>
>
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> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:34:44 EDT
>    From: aubrey602@...
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 83
>
>
> In a message dated 8/11/2004 1:52:44 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
> kegels@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message:  1
> Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004  02:13:27 -0000
> From: "j_ngarong"  <j_ngarong@...>
> Subject: Physical Therapy
>
> I have been  having trouble isolating my pelvic floor muscles.  It
> was suggested  that I try a physical therapist to manuslly show me
> how to do this and  possibly use electric stim and or biofeedback to
> help.  Has anyone  had this treatment? What is it like?  Did it  help?
>
> J_Ngarong
>
>
>
>
>
> who suggested that?   i wonder how you would go about finding a  therapist
> for that.....   if you find one.. and if it works out..  please let us know.
>
> T
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Thanks for your input.  I found the site of the American Physical
Therapy Association section on womans health website.

http://www.womenshealthapta.org/

There is a listing of treatments a PT can do for us in pelvic pain
and a directory of representative PT's by state that can hook me up
with one locally.  I tried calling the PT today but she wasent in.
I will let you all know what happens. anyone else ever had this
done? I would like to know what is in store for me.



--- In kegels@yahoogroups.com, "j_ngarong" <j_ngarong@y...> wrote:
> I have been having trouble isolating my pelvic floor muscles.  It
> was suggested that I try a physical therapist to manuslly show me
> how to do this and possibly use electric stim and or biofeedback
to
> help.  Has anyone had this treatment? What is it like?  Did it
help?
>
> J_Ngarong

Maybe a Sex Thearpist or Gyn who specializes in
Thearpy. Kinda like the type that work with
Vaginismus.
--- aubrey602@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 8/11/2004 1:52:44 AM US Mountain
> Standard Time,
> kegels@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message:  1
> Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004  02:13:27 -0000
> From: "j_ngarong"  <j_ngarong@...>
> Subject: Physical Therapy
>
> I have been  having trouble isolating my pelvic
> floor muscles.  It
> was suggested  that I try a physical therapist to
> manuslly show me
> how to do this and  possibly use electric stim and
> or biofeedback to
> help.  Has anyone  had this treatment? What is it
> like?  Did it  help?
>
> J_Ngarong
>
>
>
>
>
> who suggested that?   i wonder how you would go
> about finding a  therapist
> for that.....   if you find one.. and if it works
> out..  please let us know.
>
> T
>


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was suggested that I try a physical therapist to manuslly show me
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experience, please contribute.  If you want to judge or debase
anyone for seeking help, don't do it here.  This forum has laid
dormant for too long.  That goes the same for any questions you may
have.  The internet grows from the faceless.  People feel
comfortable posting or asking others for information other than
their doctors or friends.  Medical problems such as incontinence and
many sexual or, what men have classified as 'female' problems are a
source of embarrassment for many women.  All of us have the rare
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Hey, I'm sorry but first- be responsible and read my message before
you comment- there is not a large mass hanging out of my
vagina...sheesh..and I'm fine, it's just my cervix..no biggy- the
conversation is over..

Thanks ladies


--- In kegels@yahoogroups.com, G <MistressGwen@M...> wrote:
> IGNORING ONES BODY IS THE STUPIDEST TIHNG OF ALL- AT ANY AGE! And
the
> Gynecologist is your friend- they are NOT scary!  U make it sound
like they
> are Monsters! And if she is 18- she should have been going to the
Dr for a
> few years now- I have been going since I was 12 and I am 39.5 yrs
of age...
> Some people need to be told the facts bluntly- she is 18 NOT 10!
And she
> should be able to see the severity of her actions and take
responsibility
> for herself and her body!  A large mass hanging out of her vagina
she make
> her go immediately to the DR!  Not consult people here!  She needs
a dr not
> a shoulder to whimper on!  Be responsible and act fast !
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> >       1. Re: HELP!!!!
> >            From: CA <c_account2004@y...>
> >       2. Re: HELP!!!!
> >            From: "scoequinesabre" <scoequinesabre@y...>
> >       3. Re: Digest Number 77
> >            From: "scoequinesabre" <scoequinesabre@y...>
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 1
> >    Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 13:51:20 -0700 (PDT)
> >    From: CA <c_account2004@y...>
> > Subject: Re: HELP!!!!
> >
> > Were on this board to help each other not to tear
> > down. To be honest, I  think you were a bit harsh to
> > this 18 year old. Going to the Gyn can be  down right
> > scary when your that young.
> >
> > Her not wanting to go does not make her immature, nor
> > stupid.
> >
> > Linz, I realize its easier to post and check out and
> > check via non faces on the internet if anyone has or
> > has heard of something simliar  that you have.
> >
> > I would agree with the previous posters, that its wise
> > to go to the Gyn. That is the only way you are going
> > to find out what that mass is. If you have
> > reservations about what may happen in the appointment
> > ask to have a constultation first. Or when you call
> > for your appointment to speak to the nurse or Dr
> > briefly and explain the reservations you may have with
> > the appointment. It makes thier job easier as well if
> > you let them know your scared, or have any other
> > concerns about the appointment.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 2
> >    Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 01:55:34 -0000
> >    From: "scoequinesabre" <scoequinesabre@y...>
> > Subject: Re: HELP!!!!
> >
> > is there any possibility it is just my cervix? seriously, I'm a
worry-
> > wort. Is your cervix at the end of your vagina(like if you have a
> > long opening, it's at the very end...) or is it located more on
the
> > wall, like an opening that leads more towards your abdomen?
Hmmmmmm,
> > I really wonder. Because it(whatever it is in me) has a tiny
little
> > indentation in the center of it....
> >
> >
> > Thanks...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In kegels@yahoogroups.com, "Chocolatize"
> > <chocolatize_hypnotizes@y...> wrote:
> >> sounds like you need to go to the Dr right away.  So if it is a
> > tumor
> >> or something of that sort that can get rid of it before it gets
> > worse.
> >>
> >> --- In kegels@yahoogroups.com, "scoequinesabre"
> > <scoequinesabre@y...>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hey! Sorry for the bluntness, but I need some help. I'm 18 and
> >>> haven't been to the GY dr. yet- I'm trying to avoid that as
long
> > as
> >>> possible...anyway- I have this ball-like thing that slightly
> > hangs
> >>> inside my vagina about 2 inches in. It worries me because I can
> > not
> >>> figure out what it is. I am just hoping it is not a tumor.
Please
> >>> help me out if you can so that I don't worry myself over
> > nothing...
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> Linz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 3
> >    Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 01:58:31 -0000
> >    From: "scoequinesabre" <scoequinesabre@y...>
> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 77
> >
> > Thanks for the concern. I appreciate it. I'm avoiding the Dr.
because
> > I spend 1/4 of my life in the hospital because of a chronic
illness.
> > When I'm not there it's halleluia time. I have been through more
than
> > a lot of people my age and I'm sick of it. I am being immature
but
> > the next time(which is soon) I go to my Dr. I'll ask about
it...until
> > then I'll be fine.
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In kegels@yahoogroups.com, G <MistressGwen@M...> wrote:
> >> Why are u avoiding the dr??  That's really immature and well...
> > Lets be
> >> blunt- stupid!!  If u have a cyst then go to the dr and let them
> > tell u what
> >> it is?? Maybe u can get it lanced and get something for it...
Let
> > me know
> >> Mistress Gwen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
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> >>>
> >
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> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>>    Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:33:21 -0000
> >>>    From: "scoequinesabre" <scoequinesabre@y...>
> >>> Subject: HELP!!!!
> >>>
> >>> Hey! Sorry for the bluntness, but I need some help. I'm 18 and
> >>> haven't been to the GY dr. yet- I'm trying to avoid that as
long
> > as
> >>> possible...anyway- I have this ball-like thing that slightly
hangs
> >>> inside my vagina about 2 inches in. It worries me because I can
> > not
> >>> figure out what it is. I am just hoping it is not a tumor.
Please
> >>> help me out if you can so that I don't worry myself over
> > nothing...
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> Linz
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
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> >>>
> >>> Message: 2
> >>>    Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:35:31 -0000
> >>>    From: "Chocolatize" <chocolatize_hypnotizes@y...>
> >>> Subject: Re: HELP!!!!
> >>>
> >>> sounds like you need to go to the Dr right away.  So if it is a
> > tumor
> >>> or something of that sort that can get rid of it before it gets
> > worse.
> >>>
> >>> --- In kegels@yahoogroups.com, "scoequinesabre"
> > <scoequinesabre@y...>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Hey! Sorry for the bluntness, but I need some help. I'm 18 and
> >>>> haven't been to the GY dr. yet- I'm trying to avoid that as
long
> > as
> >>>> possible...anyway- I have this ball-like thing that slightly
> > hangs
> >>>> inside my vagina about 2 inches in. It worries me because I
can
> > not
> >>>> figure out what it is. I am just hoping it is not a tumor.
Please
> >>>> help me out if you can so that I don't worry myself over
> > nothing...
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>> Linz
> >>>
> >>>
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I totally agree with Valerie-I set this newsgroup up to help other
women. Not to judge them.  If you have advice or personal
experience, please contribute.  If you want to judge or debase
anyone for seeking help, don't do it here.  This forum has laid
dormant for too long.  That goes the same for any questions you may
have.  The internet grows from the faceless.  People feel
comfortable posting or asking others for information other than
their doctors or friends.  Medical problems such as incontinence and
many sexual or, what men have classified as 'female' problems are a
source of embarrassment for many women.  All of us have the rare
opportunity within forums; such as these, to positively affect many
peoples lives.  I for one don't take that lightly.  Neither should
you.

After saying that..I want to truly thank you all for being here.

Sandy
List Manager