----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Schauss <schauss@...>
To: <epilepsycured@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [epilepsycured] Magnesium and seizures


> Frank,
>
> Great posts! I'd like to add a bit here, especially since it relates to
my
> daughter and some improvements we've seen recently. I ran a Urine Organic
> Acid test on her (MetaMetrix) and in the interpretive report from my
> company, CellMate, we noticed an elevation in an organic acid known as
> Tricarballylate. It is a by-product of an intestinal bacteria and it
binds
> very tightly with magnesium The organic acid itself binds to magnesium.
>
> Since we started Tasya on ProBio Gold from Kirkman, we've noticed a
> substantial lessening of the brief myoclonics she had while falling asleep
> during naps and while waking up in the morning. My feeling is that she is
> finally absorbing the magnesium as we destroy the tricarballylate
producing
> bacteria.
>
> Just my two-cents for the day.
>
> In health,
> Mark Schauss
> www.cellmatewellness.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "FRANK CUNS-RIAL" <fcunsrial1@...>
> To: <epilepsycured@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 4:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [epilepsycured] Magnesium and seizures
>
>
> > Hi Zoe,
> > Great article, I have been preaching to docs the very same fact
regarding
> the
> > magnesium serum levels and the "traces only" reading. Of course their
> > interpretation is that "is not there because the body does not need it".
A
> > point of interest. Depending on what salt of magnesium you are taking
,it
> is
> > absorbed by different parts of the cell. Of course we do not know which
> part
> > of the neuronal cell needs to be fed in order to influence the epilepsy
> > episodes but one interesting theory is to make sure one takes a complete
> > combination of as many chelated magnesium forms as possible such as
> ororate,
> > glycinate, citrate, glycinate, among others, I am searching for a brand
> with
> > the most salts in it and I'll post it as I find it. The second point is
> the
> > issue of frequency. Most people will tell you that taking minerals once
a
> day
> > is fine and it is. In the case of magnesium and epilepsy we need to be
> more
> > careful, though. I suspect that maintaining as close as possible a
> constant
> > supply of available magnesium thoroughout the day is important and I
give
> my
> > son a magnesium blend six times a day. Thirdly, do not forget to assure
> > enough dietary or supplemental calcium and B6 in as many as six times a
> day
> > or three "time release" takes.
> > Warm regards
> >
> > FCR
> >
> >
> > Zll51@... wrote:
> >
> > > This article is from Dr. Saul's web site. If you aren't familiar with
> > > him, you may want to be. Much good info there.
> > >
> > > http://doctoryourself.com/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Epilepsy
> > >
> > > Epilepsy
> > > Home"If in doubt, try nutrition first."
> > > (Roger J. Williams, PhD, in Nutrition Against Disease)
> > > Sarah and her fiancé Richard wanted to have children as soon as they
> > > were married. Sarah had just been diagnosed with epilepsy, however,
> > > and was offered Phenobarbital as therapy. She and Richard read up on
> > > the drug, and now knew, as did their doctor, that pregnancy while
> > > taking a barbiturate was not ideal.
> > > "So we want to look into other options," Sarah said to me in the
> > > office. "Could vitamins replace the drug?"
> > > "I'm not sure," I said. "My mother has been medicated for grand mal
> > > epilepsy for over 50 years now and it's a really long shot to think
> > > that a nutrient could be enough. Still, Sarah, you have the
> > > advantage of being young. There is evidence that epilepsy in
> > > teenagers can be connected with magnesium deficiency. You've had
> > > blood tests done?"
> > > "Oh, yes," she said. "Tons of them, and here's the latest."
> > > She handed me a copy. No one had even looked for serum magnesium.
> > > "O.K. then," I said. "Ask your doctor to check your blood magnesium
> > > levels, and let me know what they find."
> > > So they did check. Sarah's serum magnesium levels were so low as to
> > > be actually unmeasurable.
> > > "The doctor was a bit surprised at that," Sarah said next time we
> > > talked. "So now what?"
> > > "Let's try a large quantity of magnesium, starting with a supplement
> > > of 800 milligrams a day. That's just over twice the RDA, so it is
> > > not unreasonable. Then you can gradually work up from there if need
> > > be. You'll know if you are taking too much: the biggest side effect
> > > of too much magnesium is diarrhea. You've heard of milk of
> > > magnesia?"
> > > "The laxative, sure."
> > > "That is a magnesium preparation. Your supplement will be better
> > > absorbed, though. Especially if you take the right form, take it
> > > often, and really need it. Then your body will soak it up like a
> > > sponge. Try magnesium citrate, or magnesium gluconate. Divide your
> > > daily intake over four or more doses, at least. Then let's see what
> > > we get."
> > > A few weeks later, we met again. Sarah had new bloodwork results in
> > > hand. Her magnesium level was just barely measurable... and she was
> > > taking 1,200 mg a day.
> > > "Wow! Where's it all going?" Sarah asked. "I've had no loose
> > > bowels at all."
> > > "Your body is evidently using it. This suggests a real, long-
> > > standing deficiency on your part. Of course, nearly 99% of young
> > > women do not even get the US RDA of magnesium. But this is beyond
> > > that. You have a special need for this mineral. The tests confirm
> > > that."
> > > "But wouldn't the blood levels go up more than that little bit?"
> > > Sarah said.
> > > "You'd think so, but not necessarily. You are more than your blood,
> > > important though blood certainly is. Serum tests fail to indicate
> > > how much of this or that is actually inside your body's cells. There
> > > are, after all, some 40 trillion of them. Magnesium is involved in
> > > over 2,000 chemical reactions throughout your body. It is needed
> > > everywhere and always. Oddly enough, the cells can be critically low
> > > in magnesium and some of the mineral will often still show up in the
> > > serum. In your case, it's more the other way around. Now that you
> > > are supplementing with magnesium, your cells must be getting it, and
> > > there's not much left in the blood that transports it. There are a
> > > lot of tanker trucks on your highways, but they're empty. The cargo
> > > is delivered and now the fuel is in every home."
> > > "So it looks like I need more magnesium than most people," said
> > > Sarah. "Well, if I do take lots of it, will I need less of the
> > > drug?"
> > > "That's the idea. Do you want to run it by your doctor? You could
> > > ask him if he'd consider try gradually decreasing your dose of
> > > Phenobarbital down to the minimum that keeps you symptom free."
> > > She did, and he did. Sarah ended up on the lowest possible dose of
> > > the drug and a very high maintenance dose of magnesium. This was not
> > > an landslide victory for nutrition, but it points to a greater good:
> > > an optimally-nourished body may need very little medication. What
> > > are the long-term consequences of millions of Americans taking less
> > > of each of their many drugs? Healthier people, greater safety and
> > > greater savings. Only the pharmaceutical companies could possibly
> > > object.
> > > And they do, of course. The US Food and Drug Administration shares
> > > the industry's concern that it might lose its therapeutic monopoly.
> > > Here is a direct quote from FDA Deputy Commissioner for Policy David
> > > Adams, at the Drug Information Association Annual Meeting, July 12,
> > > 1993:
> > > "Pay careful attention to what is happening with dietary supplements
> > > in the legislative arena... If these efforts are successful, there
> > > could be created a class of products to compete with approved
> > > drugs. The establishment of a separate regulatory category for
> > > supplements could undercut exclusivity rights enjoyed by the holders
> > > of approved drug applications."
> > > And a quote from the FDA Dietary Task Force Report, released June
> > > 15, 1993:
> > > "The task force considered many issues in its deliberations
> > > including to ensure that the existence of dietary supplements on the
> > > market does not act as a disincentive for drug development."
> > > When is the last time you saw a calendar, pen, ad or prescription
> > > pad in your doctor's hand that said "Magnesium" on it?
> > > Keep looking. It will be in some quack's office, no doubt.
> > > Or not. L.B. Barnett, MD was onto this some 40 years ago. He
> > > wrote "Clinical Studies of Magnesium Deficiency in Epilepsy,"
> > > published in Clinical Physiology 1(2) Fall, 1959. But who cares
> > > about old papers? Our society prefers new lamps for old. New drugs
> > > invariably preempt old minerals. Too bad, when the old lamp or the
> > > old research may hold the genie.
> > >
> > > Copyright C 1999 and prior years Andrew W. Saul. From the books
> > > QUACK DOCTOR and PAPERBACK CLINIC, available from Dr. Andrew Saul,
> > > Number 8 Van Buren Street, Holley, New York 14470.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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