Brett,

Yes, your response is the kind of response I was seeking. I hope we may hear
from many other qualified parties.

Concerning the neurological issues you discuss at the end of your post, I
think science's understanding of the area is too limited to be able to make
any assessment. We have a lot of growing to do.

Thanks

Howard

In a message dated 10/5/00 3:08:46 PM, bretmann@... writes:

>Howard - I agree with your observation. Viewed from the perspective that
>both substances are teaching - vehicles for the spirit and consciousness,
>it appears to me that ibogaine is the province of more therapeutically
>oriented or more experienced consciousness explorers.
>
>LSD's capacity to demolish the ego can be tremendously liberating and
>healing, but the Sufis say (I've read) that we all have a false and a real
>ego.
>
>LSD appears to be able to dissolve rigid and narrow world views and
>self-boundaries by in essence, returning consciousness to a fertile,
>infantile like state. One can look at a telephone or other common object
>while peaking on LSD and wonder, "what's this? Something you eat?"
>
>But not all that we have learned, often painfully, needs to be unlearned,
>and spiritual development seems to me largely the process of integrating
>learned truths into our lives (egos). It is this evolving, authentic ego,
>I
>think, which is addressed by ibogaine. I'm sure this thought isn't original
>on this list, but I believe ibogaine does not disrupt normal ego function
>that much because an intact ego is required to assimilate the deeper
>knowledge ibogaine may offer.
>
>I don't know if this is the type of response you were looking for - from
>a
>neurological viewpoint, might ego function remain intact in the ibogaine
>experience because deeper brain structures (closer to critical life
>support areas) are more involved? My impression is that the subjective
>experience of LSD is based mainly in the neo-cortex.

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