Hello Jon,

>>>>Of course it isn't possible, however it is possible that the client doesn't
experience what they consider to be what they are paying for. In that case
they shouldn't pay.<<<<

I am not sure if that holds water. Are you implying that the client knows best?
That the therapist should treat the clients' perceived problem and ignore any
underlying issues that need addressing because the client has not recognised
these problems?

If that is what you are implying then there has been a breakdown of rapport from
the very start and, quite rightly, it would be wrong to charge them.

>>>>Now this made me laugh out loud. There isn't types and kinds of motivation,
you either are or you ain't.<<<<

I can be entertaining sometimes. I don't think I mentioned types of motivation.
When a client is motivated for the wrong reason the chances are they will not
succeed, this is where the totems are collected. If a client is asked to stop
smoking because his spouse would like him to then this is the wrong motive - it
has to be his decision.

However, if you go to this link you will find they do list motivation types
http://www.cba.uri.edu/Scholl/Notes/Motivation_Types.html

>>>>Never seen this myself. I've seen people accused of this by others who left
because the service they were getting was an expensive waste of time. This
is therapist cop out Mel. There is absolutely no proof of this occurring at
all.<<<<

Go to yahoo psycho-pictography I have put a case on there.

>>>>You're being ripped off.<<<<

Only if I feel I am.

>>>>Fine, if you are acknowledgeable to believe that. Actually you have an
automatic guarantee under British trading law that lasts for a minimum of
twelve months. Personally if the mechanic doesn't guarantee their work I think
it shows unbelievable naivety to use that mechanic.<<<<

Jon, the head has been off before. It has been skimmed down to its tolerance and
now they have to skim the valve seats so the head can be skimmed again. They
will also replace the valve stem seals and replace the old head bolts. Now I
know I can get the local cowboy to just replace the head but that may not last a
week. The garage I am using has said it should last at least two years. I used
to be a mechanic.

>>>>You call THAT a bargain? Strange understanding of the word you have
there.<<<<

Yes, considering the alternatives.

>>>>The phrases "saw you coming" and "laughing all the way to the bank" spring
to mind.<<<<

mmmmmm Now when did this mistrust of people first begin?

>>>>*WORTHY* of *YOUR* time? And people on these groups call ME big headed, good
grief. Icy would be tragic if it wasn't so bloody funny.<<<<

Jon, time is more precious than money. Once time has been spent it cannot be
reclaimed. I value time and the gift of time that I give to anyone. Therefore
that person has to be worthy of that gift.

>>>>No. Your assuming that because the client pays they are happy at the end of
it all. However, and please answer this one, don't use a misleading and
totally bad metaphor of being ripped off by a mechanic as a way of avoiding the
following question..... do your clients pay before or after your
services?<<<<

I don't make assumptions when dealing with clients in my clinical practice. The
only time I make assumptions is when I am paid to in my business practice.

>>>>Not true. Toney Robbins does it and is a multi millionaire. You don't for
one of two reasons, you just don't want to enough to try or you can't
because you limit yourself by believing you can't before you've tried.<<<<

Perhaps you did not read deep enough into what I wrote?

>>>>I doubt it, they are doing very well without you. They have reasons
obviously beyond your comprehension for their current actions. Rapport with
their foes would obviously be counter productive for their actions otherwise
they would use someone, although I doubt it would be you.<<<<

You are probably right.

>>>>Of course you would Mel. I actually believe that initially B & B were
convinced they would find weapons of mass destruction, it's not the first
time that honest belief has been based on misconception, myth and simple
erroneous theory.<<<<

Not so. They knew from the outset there was no WMD's.

All the Best

Mel.

Ex-Royal Marine Commando who know a bit about NBC warfare.

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