----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Hubbard" <hubbard_ron@...>
To: <hypnosis-hypnotherapy-UK@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:13 PM
Subject: [UKhypno] Re: Hypnotism or Mesmerism


> --- In hypnosis-hypnotherapy-UK@yahoogroups.com, Tom <blackmonk@...>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > To: hypnosis-hypnotherapy-UK@yahoogroups.com> From:
> hubbard_ron@...> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:39:27 +0000> Subject:
> [UKhypno] Re: Hypnotism or Mesmerism> > > It's not just the
> scientific community, but they lead the way due to > a flawed way of
> looking at things: to them, if a thing can't be > repeated in a lab
> and written up in a journal, therefore it doesn't > exist. To any
> other rational person, that's horse manure: a thing can > or cannot
> exist becaause it does irrespective of whether any > scientist
> believes in it.>
>>
>> "Can't be repeated in a lab" and "scientists don't believe in it"
> are two different things.
>>
>> Suppose I told you that, for instance, an object doesn't exist if
> it has no physical substance and you said that objects can exist
> whether I believe in them or not. That's true, but those objects that
> exist without my belief still have physical substance.
>
> I'm glad I took debate classes or I would get drowned in that morass
> of non sequitors. It's amazing how far people will go to not
> acknowledge something that frightens them or shakes their belief
> system.
>

Why is this person allowed to continue posting things like this? I was under
the impression that personal attacks weren't allowed on this list.

Oh, here it is. "Please keep your postings short, on the topic of hypnosis,
respectful and polite."

I find Ron Hubbard's posting to be neither respectful nor polite.
"Insulting" and "intolerant" are words that come to mind more readily. A
person who can't accept that someone who disagrees with him has legtimate
reasons for doing so, preferring to ascribe that person's disagreement as
not being willing to "acknowledge something that frightens them or shakes
their belief
system" is not a person who can be engaged in civil discussion in my
opinion.