Hey Gang!
It's time to show off that summer tan at the next
CLUB+
SoCal's Unique Dance Party
with a "Positive" Vibe
Every Third Saturday of the Month
Saturday, July 17th
9:30pm to 2:00am
at
Apache Dance Bar
11608 Ventura Blvd. in Studio City
(just 3 blocks east of Laurel Canyon Blvd.)

Arrive in a tank top and receive
$2.00 off the regular $7.00 cover charge
(100% of the cover charge goes to benefit
L.A. Shanti HIV/AIDS Service Organization)

Join the pozitive energy of CLUB+,
where a diverse crowd of
SoCal's friendliest POZ and NEG guys
meet, dance and make new friends
without status being an issue!!

DJ Jason (of "GAMeBoi" at Rage)
Spins Pop and Disco

Sexy bartenders Geoff and Loren mix drink specials
(including non-alcoholic drink specials for our friends of Bill W.)

Visit our website and read the recent IN Magazine article on CLUB+,
find out information about upcoming events
(including our special August Summer Splash Party!)
or be added to the mailing list.
www.ClubPlusLA.com

Look for our ad in Frontiers Newsmagazine, IN Magazine, PartyList.com,
Sex4HotMen.net and StrengthInNumbers.org
(all advertising is generously donated by the above listed organizations as
proud sponsors of CLUB+)











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The Wall–Las Memorias Project is now accepting name submissions
for the AIDS Monument at Lincoln Park in Los Angeles, CA.

To place the name of a loved one on the AIDS memorial walls, please
complete the online submission form at

www.thewalllasmemorias.org/monument/onlineapplication1.html

Deadline to submit a name to be unveiled at the dedication ceremony
is June 1, 2004.

To find out more information concerning the AIDS Monument or The
Wall–Las Memorias, please visit us at our website:

www.thewalllasmemorias.org

Or contact us at

The Wall-Las Memorias Project
111 N. Ave 56
Los Angeles, CA 90042
323-257-1056
323-257-1625 (fax)
info@...

Hi David,
Have had many dealings with these kooks.  They have even gone as far
as to threaten me and mine.
I will not sit by.
You are to be commended on your work.
Freda


-- In hivaidsnetwork@yahoogroups.com, daveyboy_can <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
> Some people wonder why postings are moderated on this Yahoo Group?
> Well there is a group of people out there trying to shut down sites
> like this with antiAIDS propaganda and repeated grafitti. "They"
> (AIDS denialists) try to post hundreds of messages to this board
> every month alone! They have attacked our http://www.HIVforum.com
now
> for over 3 years, they spam our chats, try to tell our members to
> quit medicines and many other carzy tatics. BEWARE!
>
> AIDS apologists are those who know HIV leads to AIDS (proven by
> science, so much scientific proof) and we are defending the
> scientifically known fact that viral pathogenesis and progression
> of 'HIV to AIDS'  causes  the eventual need for combination
therapies
> to prolong life.
>
> What are AIDS dissidents? Find out who, what, where, when and why:
> http://www.hivforum.com/?dissident=dissident+site:aegis.com
>
> What are AIDS denialists all about? See the myths exposed:
> http://www.hivforum.com/?dissident=dissident+site:thebody.com
>
> Learn about how they are murdering HIV positive people:
> http://www.medchecker.com/dissident/aids-dissidents.htm
>
> Thanks
> http://www.HIVsearch.com

Some people wonder why postings are moderated on this Yahoo Group?
Well there is a group of people out there trying to shut down sites
like this with antiAIDS propaganda and repeated grafitti. "They"
(AIDS denialists) try to post hundreds of messages to this board
every month alone! They have attacked our http://www.HIVforum.com now
for over 3 years, they spam our chats, try to tell our members to
quit medicines and many other carzy tatics. BEWARE!

AIDS apologists are those who know HIV leads to AIDS (proven by
science, so much scientific proof) and we are defending the
scientifically known fact that viral pathogenesis and progression
of 'HIV to AIDS'  causes  the eventual need for combination therapies
to prolong life.

What are AIDS dissidents? Find out who, what, where, when and why:
http://www.hivforum.com/?dissident=dissident+site:aegis.com

What are AIDS denialists all about? See the myths exposed:
http://www.hivforum.com/?dissident=dissident+site:thebody.com

Learn about how they are murdering HIV positive people:
http://www.medchecker.com/dissident/aids-dissidents.htm

Thanks
http://www.HIVsearch.com

April 16th HIVe Party

     Finally the SNOW has ended, and its time to break out the
     spring wear!  The HIVe is requesting your presence at the
     O.W. Bar 'Spring Break' Party event.   The party begins at
     7 pm, April 16th at O.W. Bar, 221 E. 58th St., between 2nd
     and 3rd Avenues.  O.W.  is providing complimentary hors
     d'oeuvres, and drink specials, and The HIVe will be
     holding a Dinner for Two raffle at a very special restaurant.
     Mark your calendar, put away the snow boots, add a few
     dollars to your Metrocard, and come on  out and party!

More HIVe News at:
http://www.HIVeNYC.com/hivenews.html

Margaret, very nice to have you onboard.

Cheers - Jim from Ottawa, Canada
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: marguw
   To: hivaidsnetwork@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 12:41 PM
   Subject: [The HIV/AIDS Network®] MargUW's Intro


   Sorry if some people get this more than once!!!

   Hi everyone,

     My name is Margaret.  I work for the University of Wyoming in the
   Psychology Department on the Wyoming Rural AIDS Prevention
   Projects.  I am also on the state community planning group, and am
   one of the organizers of WYOAIDS Walk.  I am pleased to say this
   year will be our 3rd annual walk.

     I myself am negative, but have been touched by a close friend who
   is positive.  Because of my work and interaction with him, I have
   started to do more with HIV/AIDS work.  I truly enjoy myself and I
   am looking forward to getting to know you all.

   Margaret





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http://www.hiv-aids-poz.com (POZ Prevention), http://www.13km.com (POZ Chat
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Hi, I'm a journalism student from Florida Southern College in
Lakeland, Fla., and I'm working on a project for class.  I'm trying
to write about high-risk behavior,poor sex eduction and their
correlation to HIV.  Any information on this would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
Rita

Hi everyone,
   I'm. new to the group,and I thank you for welcoming me.I hope to
make some great friends here. I'm. a long term survivor, and am still
going stronger lol.
Denis from NYC

Hi, Everyone...

I am moving to Oahu this Summer for a new job. I was wondering if
anyone knows a really good HIV doctor i should check out? A doctor
with lots of hand on stuff and knows alot of HIV and how to deal with
it would be great. I would appreciate your responses.

David

I am gay, 51 and poz 18yrs. I am still here and still thriving. I would like to
let newly diagnosed that it does not have to be a death sentence. I would also
like to chat with other long term survivors. Wm Indianapolis

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Hi I am new to the group and wanted to introduce myself...... My name is Nicole,
I am a 29 year old female who has been poz since Oct.2001..I live in the Seattle
Washington area, just recently moved from Califorina.....Thought it might be
helpful to be part of this group...the more support the better, right?!

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Hello everyone,

My name is Dave.  I have been positive for 3 years now and in good
health.  I have maintained a undetectable viral load since 2 weeks of
starting my meds and my CD4 count has never been lower than 383 and
has been as high as 650.

I worked for a Forture 500 company for 3 years and left the company
to start my own business.  I am a consultant for my former employer.
I have been self employed for 18 months now and currently have health
insurance with United Healthcare as a group plan.  The coverage is
currently in COBRA and is due to expire April 30, 2004.

I am so fustrated attempting to secure a new health insurance
policy.  I tried to obtain another group plan through SASE an
organization for the self employed.  I received a call back from my
representative and she announced that they would not be able to cover
me.  The insurer was Mega Life and Health.  I called Mega Life today
just out of curiosity to find out why they declined covering me since
I have an existing policy.  They did not have me on record.  Livid as
I was, I called SASE to find out why they hadn't submitted the
application to Mega Life and let them decide.  Internally they "felt
it wouldn't be approved" due to being HIV+.  Nothing in their
underwriting guide which I reviewed when I signed up had any
stipulations or restrictions regarding HIV or AIDS.  I have requested
my application back and I will send it to Mega Directly for their
answer.

In the meantime, I am told with my current "pre-existing condition"
purchasing an "individual" policy they will not cover me for the pre-
existing condition for 12 months even though I currently have valid
health insurance that has been in force for over 4 years
consecutively.  I thought if I can prove a previous policy was in
force for their exemption period, they would waive the pre-existing
condition clause.

Hi everyone,

   So, I hate to ask this, but I need your help with something.  I work for an
Internet HIV prevention project.  We are in the process of developing a
questionnaire that will reach everyone (before we were targeting gay or bisexual
men).  We here have been through it so much that it looks great to us, but may
not to people who haven’t seen it before.  Would you all be willing to take a
look at it and give me feedback?  You can just post the feedback in the group,
and I will be able to get it from there.  We want to make sure that it works for
people who are positive, negative, gay, or bisexual men, straight men, and
straight women.

   A little rationale for the survey is that we will use the information
ultimately to design interventions that can be used on-line for prevention
purposes.  That is why we want it to be the best possible survey we can design. 
In the short-term, we need the survey so my professor can submit a grant to have
the funds to get the ball rolling.  We want to be able to provide good sites to
help men and women with health issues, specifically HIV/AIDS.

Here is the direct link

http://www.wrapp.net/mens_internet/mens_internet.htm

Here is the website link and there is a banner at the bottom of the main page
that will take you there too.

http://www.wrapp.net

I am also always looking for suggestions on the website.

Thanks so much,

Margaret




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CLUB +
The HOT NEW Monthly Dance Party
where POZ guys and their friends
meet, mingle and make new friends
without status being an issue

Slip into your sexiest pair of jeans, strap up those dancin' boots
and join a few hundred of SoCal's hottest and friendliest POZ guys on
SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21st
for
The RED HOTZ Party
featuring DJ GREG ELLSWORTH
(formerly of PROBE and SPIKE)
10:00pm to 2:00am
(wear RED and get $3.00 off the cover)
at
ZEN
2609 Hyperion Blvd. (near Grifith Park Blvd) in Silver Lake

$10.00 Cover Charge (100% goes to benefit L.A. Shanti)

Drink Specials!

nonalcoholic shooters from Elixir Tonics

$1.00 Rum shooters

win FREE memberships to Sex4HotMen.com

Sponsored by Frontiers Newsmagazine, IN Magazine, Sex4HotMen.com and
Elixir Tonics.

Last month's party was PACKED by 10:30pm. So, come early to claim
your space on the dance floor!

CLUB + continues the third Saturday of every month!

Click this link for more info: www.ClubPlusLA.com

"PLUS"
Positive Living For Us
In this time of rapid change and cautious hope, one thing is certain;
"Positive Living for US"
Continues to provide much needed information and support to
individuals who are either infected or affected by HIV and/or AIDS.
March's "PLUS" is an experience to empower your mind, body and
spirit        connections!

Topics Will Include: Drug Treatment Options – Nutrition -Life
Strategies-Experiential Exercises-Intimacy, Dating and Disclosure-How
to Make Life Quakes Work for You-Yoga-Meditation - Insurance and
Public Benefits -XEN Energy Shifting - Hypnosis Therapy and HIV -
Support Groups and much more!

March PLUS...
"For You, Your Friends and Your Family"
"A Weekend Seminar
That Will Enlighten and Inspire Your
Approach To Living"

The Next PLUS Seminar
Will Be Held
March 19-21, 2004
In Los Angeles


For More Information &
To Register,
Please Contact::  Sunnie Rose
323-962-8197 x322
PLUS@...

This project is supported in part by funds received from the L.A.
County Office of AIDS Programs and Policy; the State of California,
Department of Health Services, Office of AIDS; and the U.S.
Department of Health and Human Services and the City of West Hollywood

i am a member of this group and also a member of hivnigerians.
if you want to also to join hivnigerians go to yahoo groups and
search: hivnigerians.
or check this:
www.groups.yahoo.com/group/hivnigerians

A gathering for HIV+ men.  April 16 - 18, 2004.  Suncoast Resort, St.
Petersburg, FL.  The event is free.  A fun and  relaxing getaway, fabulous
prizes to be given away, meet and mingle party.

If you are HIV+, come enjoy some fun in the sun with other men that are!
Room reservations can be made a www.suncoastresort.com.  Rooms start at
$49.00/night + tax.

Jim Miller
http://profiles.yahoo.com/poznaround




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check out the HIV+"R"US Network
link: http://groups.msn.com/HIVSINGLESRUS/_whatsnew.msnw
hivhelp.cjb.net

Sorry if some people get this more than once!!!

Hi everyone,

   My name is Margaret.  I work for the University of Wyoming in the
Psychology Department on the Wyoming Rural AIDS Prevention
Projects.  I am also on the state community planning group, and am
one of the organizers of WYOAIDS Walk.  I am pleased to say this
year will be our 3rd annual walk.

   I myself am negative, but have been touched by a close friend who
is positive.  Because of my work and interaction with him, I have
started to do more with HIV/AIDS work.  I truly enjoy myself and I
am looking forward to getting to know you all.

Margaret

Well Michael!
Nice thoughts but this isn't exactly what I though of as retirement. I've
been diagnosed poz for 14 years and probably been poz for at least 3 years
prior to that. This is not a easy retirement for most, it's strugglin with
what little disability provides and hopefully you have the love and
assistance to get you through the rest.
Take care and have a great New Year


"I just want to be there"
"Life is what you put into it"
-------Original Message-------

From: hivaidsnetwork@yahoogroups.com
Date: 01/11/04 13:57:36
To: gaypozmature4ltr@yahoogroups.com; hivaidsnetwork@yahoogroups.com;
hivpos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [The HIV/AIDS Network®] Things to consider................

We in some respects are the "lucky" ones though!  We can take an option to
retire early and do those things that are really important to us in life.
We have an opportunity to reflect and prepare; to do much soul searching, to
actually REALIZE that we are indeed mortals on this earth.  It would seem
that often people live as though they think that they will live forever.  We
can get things in order, demonstrate love to those who are meaningful in our
lives, and live each day as though it might be our last.

Life within and of itself is TERMINAL.  It is my choice to believe that in
many ways I am no more terminal than any other mortal roaming this planet.
HIV disease and the toxic medications used to "treat" it are NO picnic
though.  There are of course many, many other terminal illnesses among us,
some even more quick and painful than HIV in fact.  Sadly we must realize
that death is just a part of living and comes to all living things.

As the Bible says, "Without HOPE we are of all men most miserable".  Yes, of
COURSE we know that probably HIV will be our surmise, but not necessarily so
since we could in fact "go" from any number of other ways.  Our HOPE is that
there will be better medications that will effectively control and hold at
bay the virus that is currently thriving within us.  Our HOPE is that one
day there might be a "cure".  Our HOPE is that we won't get run over by a
semi on our way to the market, lol hahahaha.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me today!

A forever friend, Michael in Texas

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: DOBELOVR@...
   To: hungtxhunk@...
   Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:42 AM
   Subject: Re: From DOBELOVR at PositiveSingles.com


   IM A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT I READ ON THE INTERNET. IT APPEARS TO ME
THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE HIV FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS BEFORE AIDS KICKS IN. SO HOW IS
HAVING HIV NOT A DEATH SENTENCE....?

   CRIMINALS SENTENCED TO THE DEATH PENALTY USUALLY GET A STAY OF EXECUTION
OF 12 YEARS OR SO DUE TO APPEALS BEFORE THEY ARE PUT TO DEATH. SO BASICALLY
SOMEONE SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR A CAPITOL CRIME WILL BE ON DEATH ROW LONGER
THEN THE TIME IT WILL TAKE ME TO ACQUIRE AIDS AND DIE.....! I REALIZE SOME
PEOPLE REACH THAT LEVEL OF AIDS (BELOW 200 CD4) AND BOUNCE BACK. BUT THAT IS
RARE AND MOST SEEM TO DIE AT THAT STAGE.

   IM NOT TRYING TO BE NEGATIVE, IM JUST TRYING TO BE A REALIST. I HAVE READ
20-30 DIFFERENT ARTICLES FROM DIFFERENT WEB PAGES AND THEY ALL SAY THE SAME
THING. CONSIDERING THAT THERE IS NO CURE FOR AIDS HOW IS THIS NOT A DEATH
SENTENCE....?

   I KNOW I COULD WALK ACROSS THE STREET TOMORROW AND GET HIT BY A BUS. OR
GET CANCER AND DIE IN 3 MONTHS. BUT THAT IS UNLIKELY. IF I WAS SUPPOSED TO
LIVE TO 80 YRS. AND I WILL PROBABLY DIE IN MY EARLY 40'S (IM 32 NOW) I WOULD
AY THAT IS A DEATH SENTENCE.

   PEOPLE HAVE WROTE ME AND STATED THAT HIV IS NOW MORE OR LESS CLASSIFIED AS
A CHRONIC DISEASE LIKE DIABETES VS. A DEATH SENTENCE...? IF THAT
CLASSIFICATION IS A RESULT OF ME LIVING 10 YEARS VS. 3-5 YEARS LIKE DURING
THE MID TO LATE 80'S THEN THAT'S A CROCK OF SHIT IN MY OPINION.

   LIKE I SAID, IM NOT TRYING TO SOUND NEGATIVE. I JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE AND
DOCTORS TELLING ME THAT ITS RAINING AND MY SHOES ARE GETTING WET WHEN THEY
ARE PISSING ON ME. I WANT THE TRUTH.

   THERE ARE PLACES I WANT TO SEE AND THINGS I WANT TO DO BEFORE I DIE. IF I
HAVE 10-12 YEARS BEFORE I CHECK OUT I WANT TO KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO WORK
UNTIL I CROAK. IF I ONLY HAVE A DECADE OR SO LEFT THEN I WANT TO RETIRE AND
DO THE THINGS I MAY NEVER GET TO DO. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG I HAVE HAD
HIV. I HAVE NOT GOT MY BLOOD WORK BACK YET CAUSE I JUST WENT LAST WEEK SO IM
NOT SURE WHAT MY NUMBERS ARE.

   I WANT THE TRUTH. I DONT WANT IT SUGAR COATED.... IF YOU COULD OFFER SOME
INSIGHT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

   THANX....

   B





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In this time of rapid change and cautious hope, one thing is
certain; "Positive Living for US",  "PLUS"

Continues to provide much needed information and support to
individuals who are either infected or affected by HIV and/or AIDS.

January's "PLUS" is an experience to empower your mind, body and
spirit connections!

A Weekend  Seminar That Will Enlighten and Inspire Your
Approach To Living"

The Next PLUS Seminar

Will Be Held January 23-25, 2003 In West Hollywood

Topics Will Include

Drug Treatment Options-Nutrition-Life Strategies-Experiential
Exercises-Intimacy, Dating and Disclosure-How to Make Life Quakes
Work for You-Yoga-Meditation-Insurance and Public Benefits-XEN Energy
Shifting-Hypnosis Therapy and HIV-Support Groups and much more!

For More Information & To Register, Please Contact:
Sunnie Rose
323-962-8197 x322
PLUS@...

This project is supported in part by funds received from the L.A.
County Office of AIDS Programs and Policy; the State of California,
Department of Health Services, Office of AIDS; and the U.S.
Department of Health and Human Services, and the City of West
Hollywood

Hello My name is Noel, I am desperatly looking for a friend that I
can talk to and exchange advice or feelings with. I have been POZ for
almost 3 years now, my daughter has full blown AIDS and is doing very
well on her meds right now. With a undetectable viral load and a very
nice CD 4 count. I am struggling with mine though and would love to
talk to someone about it. If some one would like to talk, reply or
email me at dtownchic_22@...

God Bless\
Noel

We in some respects are the "lucky" ones though!  We can take an option to
retire early and do those things that are really important to us in life.  We
have an opportunity to reflect and prepare; to do much soul searching, to
actually REALIZE that we are indeed mortals on this earth.  It would seem that
often people live as though they think that they will live forever.  We can get
things in order, demonstrate love to those who are meaningful in our lives, and
live each day as though it might be our last.

Life within and of itself is TERMINAL.  It is my choice to believe that in many
ways I am no more terminal than any other mortal roaming this planet.  HIV
disease and the toxic medications used to "treat" it are NO picnic though. 
There are of course many, many other terminal illnesses among us, some even more
quick and painful than HIV in fact.  Sadly we must realize that death is just a
part of living and comes to all living things.

As the Bible says, "Without HOPE we are of all men most miserable".  Yes, of
COURSE we know that probably HIV will be our surmise, but not necessarily so
since we could in fact "go" from any number of other ways.  Our HOPE is that
there will be better medications that will effectively control and hold at bay
the virus that is currently thriving within us.  Our HOPE is that one day there
might be a "cure".  Our HOPE is that we won't get run over by a semi on our way
to the market, lol hahahaha.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me today!

A forever friend, Michael in Texas

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: DOBELOVR@...
   To: hungtxhunk@...
   Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:42 AM
   Subject: Re: From DOBELOVR at PositiveSingles.com


   IM A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT I READ ON THE INTERNET. IT APPEARS TO ME THAT
MOST PEOPLE HAVE HIV FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS BEFORE AIDS KICKS IN. SO HOW IS HAVING
HIV NOT A DEATH SENTENCE....?

   CRIMINALS SENTENCED TO THE DEATH PENALTY USUALLY GET A STAY OF EXECUTION OF 12
YEARS OR SO DUE TO APPEALS BEFORE THEY ARE PUT TO DEATH. SO BASICALLY SOMEONE
SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR A CAPITOL CRIME WILL BE ON DEATH ROW LONGER THEN THE TIME
IT WILL TAKE ME TO ACQUIRE AIDS AND DIE.....! I REALIZE SOME PEOPLE REACH THAT
LEVEL OF AIDS (BELOW 200 CD4) AND BOUNCE BACK. BUT THAT IS RARE AND MOST SEEM TO
DIE AT THAT STAGE.

   IM NOT TRYING TO BE NEGATIVE, IM JUST TRYING TO BE A REALIST. I HAVE READ
20-30 DIFFERENT ARTICLES FROM DIFFERENT WEB PAGES AND THEY ALL SAY THE SAME
THING. CONSIDERING THAT THERE IS NO CURE FOR AIDS HOW IS THIS NOT A DEATH
SENTENCE....?

   I KNOW I COULD WALK ACROSS THE STREET TOMORROW AND GET HIT BY A BUS. OR GET
CANCER AND DIE IN 3 MONTHS. BUT THAT IS UNLIKELY. IF I WAS SUPPOSED TO LIVE TO
80 YRS. AND I WILL PROBABLY DIE IN MY EARLY 40'S (IM 32 NOW) I WOULD AY THAT IS
A DEATH SENTENCE.

   PEOPLE HAVE WROTE ME AND STATED THAT HIV IS NOW MORE OR LESS CLASSIFIED AS A
CHRONIC DISEASE LIKE DIABETES VS. A DEATH SENTENCE...? IF THAT CLASSIFICATION IS
A RESULT OF ME LIVING 10 YEARS VS. 3-5 YEARS LIKE DURING THE MID TO LATE 80'S
THEN THAT'S A CROCK OF SHIT IN MY OPINION.

   LIKE I SAID, IM NOT TRYING TO SOUND NEGATIVE. I JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE AND
DOCTORS TELLING ME THAT ITS RAINING AND MY SHOES ARE GETTING WET WHEN THEY ARE
PISSING ON ME. I WANT THE TRUTH.

   THERE ARE PLACES I WANT TO SEE AND THINGS I WANT TO DO BEFORE I DIE. IF I HAVE
10-12 YEARS BEFORE I CHECK OUT I WANT TO KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO WORK UNTIL I
CROAK. IF I ONLY HAVE A DECADE OR SO LEFT THEN I WANT TO RETIRE AND DO THE
THINGS I MAY NEVER GET TO DO. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG I HAVE HAD HIV. I HAVE
NOT GOT MY BLOOD WORK BACK YET CAUSE I JUST WENT LAST WEEK SO IM NOT SURE WHAT
MY NUMBERS ARE.

   I WANT THE TRUTH. I DONT WANT IT SUGAR COATED.... IF YOU COULD OFFER SOME
INSIGHT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

   THANX....

   B





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Hi every one i'm a jamaican male hiv+ who did some research on child
birth between 2 positive parents and to my surprise the risk are
next to 0 depending on how u look at it.

well there are meds now they give pregnant mothers that are + so the
child is not infected and since both parents are already positive
well you know.  yes there is that factor of reinfecting but it your
dream is to have a child like me then it is worth it.  if there is
any females interested please e-mail me at nakia_intern@...
and lets get this ball on the road.  or if you need more info get at
me...until next time.  p.s. i would be a great father, being a
teacher of the arts and all.

http://www.betterhumans.com/News/news.aspx?articleID=2003-12-15-5

or
http://tinyurl.com/2569a

well havent posted any thing yet ( sorry ) but there hasnt been any
good news for me till now thought i would share it with yall im shure
your going to be as happy as i am
now dont get ma but i found a very sexy lady ( this is the part u
might get upset ) she neg.but shes ok with me being poz and besides
shes hep B and im ok with it too so we are great to gether im hope
this will work out we are going to be together for new yrs and i
bought her a ring to u know pop that special ?
but thats all my good news so far

A senior executive with Britain's biggest drugs company has admitted
that most prescription medicines do not work on most people who take
them.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_medical/story.jsp?
story=471139

or
http://tinyurl.com/y6pz

Hey guys, I'm a 40yo wm 6'1 195 top, searching for a well adjusted
fun bttm guy. send me an email to pnpclamp&cathman@...

Hello Ron so sorry to hear about your partner,my
deepest sympathy.I lost someone close to me also.Would
love to chat.When&Where.
--- ron_keenan2000@...
<ron_keenan2000@...> wrote:
> Am looking forsomeone to talk to. My partner of 13
yrs passed, and am
> looking for support
>
>


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With the owners permission, I would like to introduce your members to
my new group for poz individuals in Pennsylvania.

Hi All,

I just started a "new group" for Poz individuals in the Chester and
Delaware Counties, Pennsylvania area, but all are invited to join.

This group is NOT in the ADULT area which makes it easier for
individuals to access for a number of reasons.

It is more of a support, information and social gathering group as
opposed to just advertising for sexual partners.

You might want to check it out to see if you are interested in
joining.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ChescoandDelcoPozSupport/

The Moderator,
George