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RE: [HIPAA & EMS] Re: PCRs at the hospital

Will,
 
I can only speak of WA State law, but it is required in our state to leave a copy of the PCR at the receiving facility.  Our protocols allow us to fax the PCR at a later time if our staffing renders us to return to service sooner.  Leaving the PCR pertains to the patient's treatment, which is an area permissible by the privacy rule to disclose without the patient's consent.  Treatment uses also do not exercise the "minimum necessary" rule.  We are to disclose all of the patient's healthcare information to provide continuity of care.  Your situation may very well be a misinterpretation or misunderstanding of the rule.  I would encourage you to review the privacy and security rules with them.  I hope this helps.
 
Take care,
TJ
 
T.J. Bishop, EMT-P
Clinical Division Chief
North Country EMS
404 S Parcel Ave, PO Box 189
Yacolt, WA 98675
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From: hipaaems@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hipaaems@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barton Regan
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:34 AM
To: hipaaems@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HIPAA & EMS] Re: PCRs at the hospital

--- In hipaaems@yahoogroups.com, "Will Dunn" <dunnww@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> I am (relatively) new to an agency that does not leave field patient
> care reports at the hospital once care has been handed over. I
> complained about this for a variety of reasons.
>
> I am told that there was an instance in the past where following a
> formal records release from the hospital for purposes of litigation,
> our PCR turned up--a surprise since there had been no formal records
> request from us.
>
> I have been under the impression that once we left that PCR with the
> hospital it's part of the medical record.
>
> The management here, after an opinion from our legal counsel, supports
> the practice of not leaving PCRs with the hospital since we know they
> could release it without patient consent, a HIPAA violation, except in
> the instances where it is required by law.
>
> I believe that this practice isn't doing the patient any favors, and,
> perhaps, contributing to worse patient care downstream.
>
> Anyone have any thoughts?
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> --wwd
>
Will,

If your agency has executed a valid "business associates" contract
with the hospital in question, it is legal and advisable to leave a
PCR with them, after all HIPAA never intended that patient care should
be compromised by a lack of communication. The reality is that your
agency should execute such an agreement with every facility they
transport to and keep them on file.
-BR



Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:24 pm

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Hello everyone. I am (relatively) new to an agency that does not leave field patient care reports at the hospital once care has been handed over. I complained...
Will Dunn
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Mar 31, 2008
10:22 pm

... Hi, Will. Welcome to the group! I agree that not leaving the PCR at the hospital could work to the detriment of the patient. Docs in my area probably...
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Apr 1, 2008
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Hello Everyone - I'll start with a long post and then tone in down a little! This group should be a big help to folks and everyone should remember the...
Dwayne Young
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Apr 1, 2008
2:41 pm

Hello, Dwayne. First I'll start with a hearty "welcome." And then a "thanks" for such a thorough response, including the actual Privacy Rule citations. I...
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Apr 2, 2008
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... Will, If your agency has executed a valid "business associates" contract with the hospital in question, it is legal and advisable to leave a PCR with them,...
Barton Regan
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Apr 17, 2008
3:34 pm

Will, I can only speak of WA State law, but it is required in our state to leave a copy of the PCR at the receiving facility. Our protocols allow us to fax...
TJ Bishop
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Apr 17, 2008
4:14 pm

... Hmm, this brings up another issue. The clear consensus among attorneys who have addressed the issue with us, as well as folks (attorneys and others) in...
Jim Kelly
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Apr 18, 2008
2:37 pm

Boy Jim, that sure clears up a lot of issues for us, if I can get our attorney to agree.Thank you. BR--...
Barton Regan
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