I'd like to share my perspective on exposure to 2-butoxyethanol - from a practical observation.

Anyway last Wed evening my daughter visited her best friend, Diane and she took her two children for the evening after she got off work.

Since her husband is away right now, I am helping babysit as she has to leave for work at 4:30 am. As I visited with her before she went to bed at 9pm she said that this 'cold type congestion' came on her suddenly.  And that both the children had started having 'the sniffles'

When I came on Thursday to watch the children it was about 2 hours later that this diarrhea started and would not quit the whole entire night. (That's how I react to just a little 2-butoxyethanol vapors getting in my eyes)

I told her I would come at 3AM on Fri because I couldn't take any more exposure to this chemical.  Well, no problem that night ... I wonder whether the vapors went higher in the house, and that's why they didn't bother me.

She let the 2 year old stay with Diane on Sat PM and Diane complained that the child was sick and coughed the whole night long. I am here at my daughter's house now, Easter Day evening, and the child hasn't coughed once.

I think that the child was getting exposed to the 2-butoxyethanol vapors from something Diane uses to clean her house or some such thing. I think sniffles and coughing are signs of too much of some type of chemical

I think Pres Eisenhower, like me, was maxed out on this chemical, and that he reacted similarly when he came into contact with it

I think that the little girl wasn't sick before going to Diane's house, I think she was being exposed to a chemical that made her sick and started coughing and coughing. (Most probably 2-butoxyethanol which causes a loosening of the sinuses, farting, diarrhea, 'flu' type symptoms)

So, I shared with my daughter, because there is some of this chemical exposure in our family ... maybe on both sides for her children (as she is married to a gulf war & Somalia & Panama Vet) ... that we react to 2-butoxyethanol more quickly that others who are not maxed out.

Each of the children was born prematurely, baby brother didn't grow for 2 months; the little girl had a hemangioma appear soon after birth. (In my opinion these are 'clues' to this chemical being somewhere in the family line)

I suspect my dad who was in WWII in the Navy during 'action' was poisoned by it prior to my conception in 1945. I know I have had my own exposure in some of the cleaning products I have used AND I have gotten second hand exposure. (Being around someone who is expelling it in their breath ... it is a complex alcohol and maybe someday they will develop a breathalyzer test for it)

Research says that it causes acute hemolytic anemia in rats .... and in humans:  just a loosening of the sinuses.

Suspect farting and diarrhea and 'the sniffles' as the first clues

Overall, suspect autoimmune issues

I wonder whether or not Lorenzo would have come down with leukodystrophy at age 5 if he hadn't moved into the house in the USA (What cleaning products did the maid use?)

I wonder about whether the grandchild of founder of Autismspeaks.org would have developed Autism after normal development if there hadn't been exposure to this chemical somewhere (Note the epidemic of Autism in China after their industrialization frenzie)

I wonder whether the headaches those with brain tumors have ... actually are part of the CFIDS that 2-butoxyethanol causes - not the brain tumor per se.

Thelma's brain tumor

I think Pres Clinton is barking up the wrong tree to blame obesity epidemic on how kids eat. Yes there have been changes, but we have more exposure to the chemical that causes autoimmune metabolic issues. Maybe it's not their fault

And DIABETES and CANCERS ... more of what too much EGBE for all sources combined ... does cause

ALS & MS type issues

Do these have a subnormal body temp?

Blood in urine is significant for a particular chemical poisoning I suspect for the cause of CFIDS, CFS, FM and the primary harm to the Veterans of our wars from WWII to the present.

I'm just realizing why blood in urine, damage to red blood cells, and even kidneys and liver are related ... and all autoimmune issues if from 2-butoxyethanol

Did you know that kidneys help make red blood cells and strong bones?

And of course the liver plays a vital role in red blood cells & making blood, too

Those harmed by the benzene in oil should come down with aplastic anemia & notice a drop in white and platelet and red blood cells.
I would think that some workers of the Exxon Valdez oil spill cleanup could have both autoimmune hemolytic anmeia AND autoimmune aplastic anemia. True for workers after the 'gulf war, too' 2-butoxyethanol is an exposure for both of these groups, and if we knew what happened to the EVOS workers, we would see the parallels.

Can you get your doctors comments on liver, kidneys and red blood cells? Ask them if you have blood in urine. Sometimes I think they dismiss it because it doesn't match what they think the blood workup is showing. Thus, they don't think they need to look at the red blood cells.

I think someday Congress will ban this chemical from use in anything. Right now it is in paints and cleaning compounds of all kinds. Hurting our babies, our pets and everyone.

Think the 'sniffles' is OK? Think again

Research in UK finds

What do you?

I believe I know what chemical exposure would cause ALS ...

and I recognize how easy it is to be exposed, and I can tell when I am being exposed, and that is frightening to me.  Besides direct exposure and exposure in the family line from someone, like my dad, who was in WWII.  I have the same diarrhea reaction that Pres Eisenhower had.  His doctors said it came on for no apparent reason.  I say that it is when you are getting exposed second hand:  the breath of someone poisoned can get in your eyes, and that is the worst exposure after the cuticle area.

I think nurses can get around people strongly exposed and get their breath in their eyes; they can be directly exposed by being around paint fumes and cleaning fumes; and like me, they can have a parent who was poisoned by EGBE prior to their conception and have some effects from it, even if it doesn't show up until one's 50's

AVOID 2-butoxyethanol

It is a chemical poisoning that we can suspect for the soldiers of all war eras, but especially WWII, Vietnam, Korean, GULF WAR (then and now).  ALS is the stand out harm for the gulf war syndrome vets, and since I suspect 2-butoxyetahnol exposure to cause what ails them ... and also the same chemical is FOR SURE the primary exposure for the workers of the Exxon Valdez oil spill cleanup, I wonder how these too groups LOOK ALIKE

This poor part time school janitor was exposed, what happened to him should NEVER happen to anyonne

For the baby boomers, like me, who have adult onset diabetes, consider it a late to show up birth defect from a parent poisoned by EGBE in WWII.  I think Australians are more at risk, until recently, because you fought in a lot of wars, too.  (You were in WWII longer than USA was, etc)

Margaret

Why I looked into this chemical in the first place

HI SARAH I'M CHARLIE FROM AUSTRALIA I'VE HAD ALS 26YEARS
STARTED IN MY VOICE, DOCTOR TOLD ME I HAD WORSE KIND
AND GAVE ME 2 TO 3 YEARS, GUESS HE WAS WRONG LOL
SORRY ABOUT YOUR MUM IT SURE IS A BUGGER OF A DESEASE
HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SARAH, OR ANYBODY WHO READS THIS

CCHARLIE FROM OZ
Sarah Dinah <sarahdinah@yahoo. com> wrote:
Hello everyone! I am not sure why I decided to join this group, but I am
doing so spontaneously, having just read an article about ALS and that
article's having triggered memories of my mother, Nancy, who died of ALS
in September of 2001, just before 9/11. I remember when she first told us
of her diagnosis (she was a nurse), we asked her what ALS was like, and
she said, "Honey, you don't want to know." She had the fast moving type
of ALS, and she lived just a little over three years after she was
diagnosed. I learned from her to appreciate the simplest things, like being
able to clear your throat or stretch a muscle when you're getting a cramp.
She could not do either of those things for months before she died.
Anyway, I don't know how long I'll be a member here, because this subject
is just so painful and frightening still, but for what it's worth, I'm here now.

Take care,

Sarah

RDW?

The RDW stands for Random Distribution of RBC Weight. It tells how consistent are the size of the red blood cells.

Page bottom for more blood cell counts ... definition

RDW is increased when someone has Hemolytic Anemia (That is the fatigue doctors are looking for in CFS, FM, CFIDS) Most of the bloodwork looks at least in normal range and doctors do not LOOK at the red blood cells. I have seen gulf war vets comment that their red blood cell count/s are in normal range, but they are small sized.

Random Distribution of Weight (RDW)

"The RDW stands for Random Distribution of RBC Weight. It tells how consistent are the size of the red blood cells. Newly made cells (reticulocytes), B12 and folic acid deficient cells are larger than iron deficient cells. This is an electronic index that may help clarify if an anemia has multiple components. The high RDW helps determine if there is only a B12 and/or folic acid deficiency (with normal RDW showing the red cells are mostly the same size) or with concomitant iron deficiency (a high RDW due to small and large red blood cells)."

"Optimal Range: 13"

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The chemical exposure I suspect for this (Per research it causes hemolytic anemia) is 2-butoxyethanol

I have had a whole day of miserable 'sniffles' because I went by to see a grandchild age 10. She, too has been having the sniffles & her mom is blaming it on allergies starting up. I think it is the chemicals they clean with there or one of the other houses she often goes to to spend the night. She was giving her mom a pedicure while I was there. I was only there about 10 minutes, and these horrible 'sniffles' (loosening of the sinuses) started up. I am so congested tonight I can barely sleep. If I looked at the chemicals in the polish or one of the components I firmly believe I would find 2-butoxyethanol or a worse version of it. It is a complex alcohol ... that poisons your entire system. (I believe it is the cause of CFIDS)

Psoriasis from a rummage sale? I suspect this is an autoimmune issue, and that you could easily get too much exposure to the 2-butoxyethanol from someone who came or worked there (Second hand solvent exposure ... their breath into your eyes.)

I suspect this type of exposure led to Anna Nicol Smith's death. She was around someone who was taking 'flu' meds. This chemical exposure in the extreme looks like the flu.

Look for this odd assortment of symptoms ... do you have enough to suspect this chemical exposure?

Central Nervous System Effects:
Difficulty Concentrating
Short Term Memory Loss
Difficulty Sleeping
Constantly Irritable
Depression
Suicidal Tendencies

Horrible Headaches

Do you recall any times of severe flu-like symptoms more
and Horrible FATIGUE? AIHA Fatigue clues:

Chills
Fatigue
Pale color
Shortness of breath
Rapid heart rate
Yellow skin color (jaundice)
Dark urine
Enlarged spleen
Eyes burning & hurting

Red blood cells immature? etc
Blood in Urine?

I heard that 29% or about 195,000 of the total force (500,--- US + 200,000 alied forces)

Of these how many are still alive?  Reports say that those ill have been dying off in the prime of life, unlike what would be expected.

I still suspect the teratogen, pesticide, solvent, poison:  2-butoxyethanol and all the symptoms are part of the CFIDS that it causes.  Proof is THE FATIGUE that evates doctors ... and has been so in this past century especially.

The CFIDS fatigue MUST BE AIHA or IMHA

A study needs to be done comparing the group of gulf war illness vets of 1991 to the 1989 bioremediaton workers of the Exxon Valdez oil spill workers.  We have now located over 900 of the 1000 who did this job.  (We know who to contact, but don't know what happened to them.)

My question, if these groups were compared to each other, how many would have died in each group to this point in time.  For these EVOS workers (exposed for sure to 2-butoxyethanol) ... how many have died?

... I suspect more than 70% ... & many a long time ago

They would have to have many seemingly unrelated, but autoimmune issues to suspect EGBE as the cause.  You are looking for the multiple, odd symptoms mentioned for Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction Syndrome (whether diagnosed or not)

Ask these questions on the 'checklist'.

Why I think the USA can not find the real cause of gulf war syndrome -

My request to Dr. Weil 

The harm of 2-butoxyethanol is unrecognized!

Is CFIDS fatigue - compensated autoimmune hemolytic anemia?

Some basic things to check - to find THIS fatigue

Janitorial Studies on EGBE & its complex form

World Health Organization says to suspect these chemicals for brain tumors (birth defect)

Might 'diabetes' (TYPE 2) be a birth defect for some?

 Chronic Overweight May not be your fault?

 ACUTE EFFECTS
    HUMAN EXPOSURE ABOVE 200 PPM CAN BE EXPECTED TO CAUSE NARCOSIS, DAMAGE
    TO THE KIDNEY AND LIVER AND PRESENT AN ABNORMAL BLOOD PICTURE SHOWING
    ERYTHROPENIA, RETICULOCYTOSIS, GRANULOCYTOSIS, LEUKOCYTOSIS AND WOULD
    BE LIKELY TO CAUSE FRAGILITY OF ERYTHROCYTES AND HEMATURIA.
    SWALLOWING OF 2-BUTOXYETHANOL RESULTS IN A SOUR TASTE THAT TURNS TO A
    BURNING SENSATION AND IS FOLLOWED BY NUMBNESS OF THE TONGUE WHICH
    INDICATES PARALYSIS OF THE SENSORY NERVE ENDINGS.
    CAUSES CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM (CNS) DEPRESSION, LOSS OF TASTE, NUMB-
    NESS OF THE TONGUE, HEADACHES AND STUPOR.
    NARCOTIC EFFECT
    CAUSES SKIN IRRITATION.

U.S. accused of failing ill 1991 Gulf War veterans

Hunter Tylo kids' health

No Chemo for Cancer Treatment?

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Have they thought about worse signs in this war ... but things that are there in every war where EXPLOSIONS are going on?

Military Super Bug?  check this link

Maybe the chemical that causes fever and autoimmune issues, is the same chemical that is causing rapid Polar Cap Melt and many health issues. 

Is anything blamed on BUTYL or on EGBE or 2(2-butoxyethanol)?

Things to Check

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The little singing space alien animation has
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Ave Maria (Gounod)

 

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Luke 2:1-20

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Could Fatigue, Headaches be something else?

http://groups.msn.com/BrainTumors/somethingelse.msnw

a chemical to avoid

http://groups.msn.com/helpourGulfWarVets/elizabeth1979.msnw

Tired, but Blood Tests Normal?

http://www.valdezlink.com/gwv/babies-gwi.htm

I had thought about that

I just now went on a search with the word autoimmune attached,

and my own web page came up at the top of the list

(I was about ready to delete this page & place it elsewhere, but maybe I shouldn't)

This is what I found:

Is heme production abnormalities sometimes from 2-butoxyethanol

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So it also makes me suspect 2-BE for that problem, too ...

not Dioxin which is not know to cause autoimmune issues (per one researcher's comments I read once)

Health Effects of Military who served in Vietnam, 

from the most sure to the least:   (Maybe NOT Dioxin?)

(do these look like Korean vets? *   Gulf war syndrome vets?)

March 31, 2008

Patriot Files post www.patriotfiles.com/forum/showthread.php?p=348324#post348324

Looking for Military in Valdez - Navy Ships & US Coast Guard, 1989

Loosing Eyesight?  *

All info here:  http://www.valdezlink.com/evos/lookingformilitaryinvaldez1989.htm

I am constantly searching, constantly listening to any thing at all to
do with our troops. These are Christian stations without all the
craziness of some? They don't beg for money either.

 	 SPIDER: Linked to treachery and death in many cultures, it was seen
as a "trickster" in ancient Africa, a "spinner of fate" in ancient
goddess cultures and -- in ancient Greek myths -- the goddess Arachne
turned into a spider by her jealous rival Athena. "Christian" cultures
have linked it both to an evil force that sucked blood from its
victims and to "good luck" because of the cross on the back of some
species. The Chinese have welcomed the spider descending on its thread
as a bringer of joys from heaven.

And so on.  Please if you would like to know what's going on, go to
http://www.gcnlive.com/On_Demand.html
Now today, Officer Jack McLamb has a very informative program on
on demand. (It's about false flag opperations)
http://www.gcnlive.com/Programs/McLamb/On_Demand.html

The link below is from the Dr. Standley and the Occult signs and
symbols.
http://www.radioliberty.com/Symbolsandtheirmeaning.html
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Please people, remember, at the bottom of this page is a reply
button. If you ever want to send something, or reply to a certain
subject just click on that.

http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/
A tremendous radio link for information and talk radio, from mostly
all real christians, not some "do gooder" who's on their way to hell.

http://www.themicroeffect.com/
A very very nice Christian radio station. Lots of info and some
music, lots of talk. Really nice, I like Frankly speaking at 10 to
12 Mt.Time. Very nice.

Be sure and read the headlines? on the RBN radio web page.

FBI Terrorism Task Force Pamphlet
http://www.radioliberty.com/fbipam.htm
This is another truth radio link. I like it, very informative also.
Good anouncers.
http://www.truthradio.com/

sick? I'm so happy to find this group. you don't know what it means to
me, I've been all over the internet trying to get anyone to listen,
most without this picture get no where..............you know of course
our Government would NEVER do such a thing? I am just over joyed at
this priveldge.

Please view these two video's on my site. Then I have Scott's page
that I send out every time I have a new person. We simply CAN NOT let
this go by. I just sent a report to News Max to their medicine people.
Did you also know that Chia King Lowe (dr.Franenstien) is head? I did
say head, investigator of his own disease? The last I heard he worked
in Bafesda,
Md. ? I can hardly wait till I can dig all up what you have to offer.

http://littlebirdtheoutcast.tripod.com/Index.html  Please look at the
bottom video first, and then prepare yourself, it's a hideous video,
and it's why I want to protest against the war in Iran.

http://littlebirdtheoutcast.tripod.com/Scott.html

I know sometimes I'm in "Over cure" but I'm not thig time. It is
vital to our freedoms to call the committe's and white house, and
Senators, they all give me a pain, because they are for the most part
a group of un-thinking aligators who bite,without knowing why, or
even caring.

We, those of us on this group KNOW WHY.

If you want to you can go to
http://www.republicradio.org and go to their archives for Sunday last
and go to Officer Jack McLamb archives and listen to the number and
the sides of the bills our "Aligators" are sneaking into LAW without
our consent or one twitty thing. This is very important.

Thank you. I know I do have alot of info, and I work all the time. I
am legally blind, Not for sympathy but you have to help me by your own
discernment if you see a typeo.

Ernie and Jack have worked hours and hours on this and so have I. I
don't do one thing but Parrot what they said, but what they said needs
to be supported for our MILITARY AND FAMILIES WHO ARE TREATED LIKE
SECOND CLASS CITIZENS, AND IT BURNS ME UP.