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guidelines to recognize EGBE exposure

guidelines to recognize EGBE exposure

This is the handout to doctors - anywhere who may be interested
http://groups.msn.com/newmoms/alloraihanhl.msnw

Look for this odd assortment of symptoms (not all, but most)
http://www.valdezlink.com/pages/flunotflu.htm#is

I recognized the pattern of symptoms of 'gulf war syndrome' vets
before I found it on the list of solvents & pesticides they were exposed to
http://www.valdezlink.com/evos/afteroil.htm

Margaret Diann  valdez@...

Is there a test for AI Hypothalamus?

THE autoimmune causing chemical

.... and how I learned about it


I think abnormal Body Temp  -  either up or down can be a clue to 2-butoxyethanol exposure

no clue

How did I stumble across this ... as THE most probable cause of 'gulf war syndrome' and CFS,FM, CFIDS? 

First I Noticed

AND THE fatigue of CFIDS


2-butoyethanol exposure should be suspect for causing Diabetes

There is even an autoimmune aspect to type II diabetes

Looks like 'the flu'

I think good nutrition (when you do eat) and glyconutrient food supplements are the best hope for help, as the immune system starts functioning properly ... the body heals itself.  Much info on this.  Check it out

for Doctors & everyone

Many people deal with autoimmune metabolic issues ... and overweight and high cholesterol is not their fault ... in the sense of doing poorly at diet and excercise  http://groups.msn.com/clean/overweight.msnw

The real harm to the Vietnam Vets + thoughts on lung cancer ... Ovaries, etc ... Obesity ... Laura Bush ... Infertility ... Diabetes ... Hank Williams Sr... SIDS ... Cushing's post   Body Temp

 

Hi Mother Margaret,

This is all very interesting information. I followed a lot of the links, looked at pictures, facts, figures, hypotheses about why certain high-profile people might have gotten sick or died, etc. I am always interested to learn more, especially about the immune system, FM, CFIDS, etc.

HOWEVER, though I cannot speak for anyone else here, I wonder if some of them are curious, too. Who ARE you, why have you put up this info, and why in all the information I looked at is there no 'About Us' or contact info? It just seems curious to me that no one is stepping up to identify who they are.

I also feel that the way this information is presented is slanted in a way that can put unneccessary fear into people. Years ago, when I suffered the debilitating effects of mercury poisoning, and spent hundreds of hours researching it, experimenting with all manner of health measures, it was tempting to see it as a ubiquitous problem. We DO live in a toxic world. BUT not everyone is sick. In fact some folks are quite healthy.

The implication that this toxin can be passed on to loved ones by the breath is a serious one. I am so curious - why are you here? Tell us about YOU...

Thank you for your interest ... one of the links shares,

My interest in 2-butoxyethanol started around November of 2001, when someone in my family shared they had fatigue and depression & a host of health issues since working on the Exxon Valdez oil spill.  I saw that 2-butoxyethanol was on the list of harmful components of Inipol that the bioremediation workers were FOR SURE exposed to.  He didn't have that info at the time he was doing the job, however,

But on May 27, 2002 my search began in all seriousness after a reply from EPA, "If you want more information you will have to use the Freedom of Information Act & go to a higher authority than me."

Well, I started spending 5 hours + a day every day from then 'til now (should have quit a year ago, and plan to quit soon)

I talked to a lot of the workers as they were still in the the town I live in.  What is your headache like, etc ... Oh, your joints hurt, are falling apart? ... etc, etc

I never would have ever given any thought to the gulf war vets as all I remembered from the news in the early 90s was that they had health issues from their service then.  That's about it.

About 9 months later ... I had a divine appointment.  A mobile rental (that we had brand new renters in) had frozen water pipes (Never before ... & never since)  My husband spent several hours underneath which caused me to visit with the husband (I had only dealt with the wife).  He shared how he just got out of the military in Oregon and he started talking about the gulf war vets and how 150,000 had registered with the American Legion as they felt the USA govt did something and was covering it up.  That they wondered why the spouses and children born before they were deployed had come down with 'the syndrome' too when they came back from the gulf war.

That peaked my curiosity, and I looked up the symptoms of 'gulf war syndrome'

Goodness!  I recognize these symptoms:

Symptoms of Gulf War Illnesses (according to the American Legion) 
 

  • Chronic Fatigue
     

  • Signs and symptoms involving skin (including skin rashes and unusual hair loss)

  • Headache

  • Muscle pain
     

  • Neurological signs or symptoms (nervous system disorders which could manifest themselves in numbness in one's arms or legs, for instance)

  • Neuropsychological signs or symptoms (including memory loss)

  • Signs or symptoms involving upper or lower respiratory system
     

  • Sleep disturbances

  • Gastrointestinal signs or symptoms (including recurrent diarrhea and constipation)

  • Cardiovascular signs or symptoms

  • Menstrual disorders 

  • & a lot more ... like depression; suicidal tendencies
     



It was not until about December, 2003 that I found 2-butoxyethanol and Diethylene glycol monobutyl ether on the list of solvents  & pesticides the gulf war troops were exposed to

I first started checking out how they cleaned up the oil spill in 1991.

What were the similarities between that oil spill cleanup and the Exxon Valdez of 1989? (Some military washed birds; a company was experimenting with cleanup chemicals, etc)

It must have been about Sept, 2003 to Jan 2004 that I spent all my time working with gulf war syndrome issues on the gulf war vets forum you shared.  Gale kicked me out then.  Sick 'n tired of hearing about how EGBE did all the things they were sharing on.

Doesn't matter, It's a bigger problem than just EVOS workers or GW Vets.

Still a problem for civilians and military alike today ... & for most of this past century.  What puzzled me most was why doctors do not find the fatigue of CFIDS (which I believe IS caused by 2-butoxyethanol exposure/s ... plus diabetes & a host of other things )

I have about 50 discussion forums of my own and go to about 300 others, so if I get kicked off one or another, it does not matter.  And I have written hundreds and hundreds of web pages.  I asked my pastor of that time .... "This is not good news, would it be best not to tell people?"  He said, "No people would want to know what they are dealing with ... & you never know who might find your information and be helped by it."

If anyone has an interest in this topic, please feel free to e-mail me as I will not be checking too often hereafter.  Which may mean I'll be dropped from other forums (?)  I have spent so much time on this that I recognize 'the pattern' of EGBE, that's all.  CFIDS, CFS, FM


mother_margaret@... or valdez@...


What do we need to know about 2-butoxyethanol

Can you tell us about natural methods that helped affected people recover?

EllenL Fibromyalgia/Chronic Fatigue Research Project: www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=376992536079

42514.5 in reply to 42514.4  That's a good question.  At first I was hoping for an accurate diagnosis and that doctors would find the fatigue.  I've asked Dr Reg to help -   Crack the Case, and doctors and those affected can learn to recognize tihs chemical, just as I have.  I have no credentials in research (but had questions I wanted answers to ... so looked at the research that was done.)  I have no medical background.

However, I do think what you have to do is to get the immune system working properly.  When I first heard about glyconutrient food supplements I dismissed them as 'too good to be true'  Now I firmly believe they are the best hope for help & you should share this information with your doctors:  Good nutrition & glyconutrient food supplements.

You must also learn to AVOID 2-butoxyethanol.  It is in paint and many, many cleaning products that everyone uses.  You can get rid of the tumors/growths it causes, and have them back with worse ailments if you don't stop the exposure.

And, I believe you must minimize all exposures to any and all chemicals including medications.  Often I hear people share that the meds they are on do not do what they hoped for.  Don't take them, then.  Don't give children flu shots, either.  I think what we call 'the flu' is this chemical creating an autoimmune immune system, leaving virus & bacteria 'unchecked'



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Cold to the Core ... can't warm up, 'the chills' rapid heart beat, shortness of breath Norma <http://www.valdezlink.com/re/myfriendnorm.htm> Examples...
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