From: Jasper Lawrence <jascallaw@...>
Subject: [helminthictherapy] Re: Chicory and lettuces, and intestinal worms
To: helminthictherapy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 5:04 PM

It is related to what I mentioned earlier, unless you eat a lot of chicory I doubt it will have an affect.

Marc has eaten it, and he still has his worms.

For cattle they are probably eating large quantities relatively, but if you are worried about it don't eat or drink foods with chicory in them or minimize the amount you eat at any one time or during the course of any one week.

I don't drink chicory coffee substitutes, the last time I did I was a child in the UK. As to eating the greens in salads the quantities are very small.

We have eaten chicory a few times in the last two years on salads according to Michelle. But I have not lost my worms accidentally, ever. The only time Michelle did it was clearly related to aerosol whipped cream and the nitrous oxide propellant.

That episode illustrates the issue here clearly. I too ate some whipped cream at the same time, but not much. My worms were fine, thankfully.

If however you regularly eat large quantities of the leaf or root it probably will have an impact based on the reference below.

But again, if the effect were strong it would be commonly used as a folk remedy or recommended by doctors.

--- In helminthictherapy@ yahoogroups. com, Marya DeBlasi <marya_deblasi@ ...> wrote:
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> http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Chicory#Use_ and_toxicity
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> Use and toxicity
> According to traditional folklore, long-term use of chicory as a
> coffee substitute may damage human retinal tissue, with dimming of
> vision over time and other long term effects.[9] Modern scientific literature contains little or no evidence to support or refute this claim.
> Root chicory contains volatile oils similar to those found in plants in the related genus Tanacetum which includes Tansy,
> and is likewise effective at eliminating intestinal worms. All parts of
> the plant contain these volatile oils, with the majority of the toxic
> components concentrated in the plant's root. [10]
> Chicory is well known for its toxicity to internal parasites.
> Studies indicate that ingestion of chicory by farm animals results in
> reduction of worm burdens,[11] [12] [13]
> which has prompted its widespread use as a forage supplement. There are
> only a few major companies active in research, development, and
> production of chicory varieties and selections. Most of them are in New
> Zealand. Chicory root extract is high in inulin, and used as a high-fiber dietary supplement.
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> ^ A Modern Herbal. New York: Dover Publications. 1931fs. ISBN 0486227987 & 0486227995. ^ Edible and Medicinal Plants of the West, Gregory L. Tilford, ISBN 0-87842-359- 1^ "Individual
> administration of three tanniferous forage plants to lambs artificially
> infected with Haemonchus contortus and Cooperia curticei.". Vet Parasitol. 146 (1-2): 123â€"34. 2007-05-15. doi:10.1016/ j.vetpar. 2007.01.009. PMID : 17336459. ^ "The use of chicory for parasite control in organic ewes and their lambs.". Parasitology. 134 (Pt 2): 299â€"307. February 2007. doi:10.1017/ S003118200600136 3. PMID : 17032469. ^ "The
> effect of chicory ( Cichorium intybus ) and sulla ( Hedysarum
> coronarium ) on larval development and mucosal cell responses of
> growing lambs challenged with Teladorsagia circumcincta. ". Parasitology. 132 (Pt 3): 419â€"26. March 2006. doi:10.1017/ S003118200500919 4. PMID : 16332288.
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> --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Jasper Lawrence <jascallaw@. ..> wrote:
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> From: Jasper Lawrence <jascallaw@. ..>
> Subject: [helminthictherapy] Re: Chicory and lettuces, and intestinal worms
> To: helminthictherapy@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 11:19 PM
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