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--- san zinsoo <sanzinsoo@...> wrote:

> MASTER CHOJUN MIYAGI AT THE MEETING IN 1936
>
> Remarks: This is a part of the meeting records. It
> appears as an appendix
> in the book, "Karatedo Dai Hokan" written by Kanken
> Toyama. Pages 377-392
> (Tsuru Shobo, 1960).
>
> (translated by Sanzinsoo)
>
> ¡ÉThe Meeting of Okinawan Karate Masters¡É
>
> Time and Date: 4:00 pm, October 25, 1936
> Place: Showa Kaikan Hall, Naha, Okinawa
> This meeting was held by Ryukyu Shinpo Newspaper
> Publisher
>
> Those who attended the meeting are as follows.
> Karateka:
> Chomo Hanashiro, Chotoku Kyan, Choki Motobu, Chojun
> Miyagi, Juhatsu Kyoda,
> Choshin Chibana, Shinpan Shiroma, Chotei Oroku,
> Genwa Nakasone
> Guests:
> Koichi Sato, Zenpatsu Shimabukuro, Kitsuma
> Tachibana, Eizo Kita, Chosho
> Goeku, Gizaburo Furukawa, Sei Ando, Choshiki Ota,
> Kowa Matayoshi, Zensoku
> Yamaguchi, Tamashiro
>
> Genwa Nakasone: When karate was first introduced in
> Tokyo, the capital of
> Japan, ¡Èkarate¡É was written in Kanji (= Chinese
> character) as ¡ÈChinese
> Hand¡É. This name sounded exotic, and gradually
> accepted among people in
> Tokyo. However, some people thought this Kanji
> ¡ÈChinese Hand¡É was not
> appropriate at schools. In order to avoid the use of
> this Kanji, some
> karate dojo wrote ¡Èkarate¡É in Hirakana (= Japanese
> phonetic letters)
> instead of Kanji. This is an example of temporary
> use of the word. In
> Tokyo, most karate dojo use the Kanji ¡ÈEmpty Hand
> Way¡É for karate-do,
> although there are still a few dojo using the Kanji
> ¡ÈChinese Hand¡É. In
> order to develop Japanese martial arts, I think
> Kanji for ¡Èkarate¡É should
> be ¡ÈEmpty Hand¡É instead of ¡ÈChinese Hand¡É, and
> ¡ÈKarate-Do¡É should be
> the standard name. What do you think?
>
> Chomo Hanashiro: In the old days, we, Okinawan
> people, used to call it
> ¡ÈToodii¡É or ¡ÈTode¡É, not ¡ÈKarate¡É. We also
> called it just ¡ÈTii¡É or
> ¡ÈTe¡É. It means fighting with hands and fists.
>
> *Translator¡Çs note
> Pronunciation for the Kanji written as ¡ÈChinese
> Hand¡É has two ways:
> 1) Toodii or Tode (Okinawan dialect)
> 2) Karate
> Pronunciation for the Kanji written as ¡ÈEmpty
> Hand¡É has only one:
> 1) Karate
>
> Ota: We, too, called it ¡ÈToodii¡É or ¡ÈTode¡É.
>
> Shimabukuro: Mr. Nakasone, I hear nowadays people
> call ¡ÈKarate-Do¡É for
> karate. Does this mean people added the word ¡ÈDo¡É
> (= literally means the
> Way) to the name ¡ÈKarate¡É for emphasizing the
> importance of spiritual
> training like Judo and Kendo?
>
> Genwa Nakasone: They use the word ¡ÈKarate-Do¡É in
> the meaning of
> cultivation of the mind.
>
> Ota: Mr. Miyagi, do you use the word ¡ÈChinese
> Hand¡É for karate?
>
> Chojun Miyagi: Yes, I use the Kanji ¡ÈChinese
> Hand¡É, as most people do so.
> It has minor meaning. Those who want to learn karate
> from me come to my
> home and say ¡ÈPlease teach me Tii or Te.¡É So I
> think people used to call
> ¡ÈTii¡É or ¡ÈTe¡É for karate. I think ¡ÈKarate¡É is
> good in the meaning of
> the word. As Mr. Shimabukuro said, the name
> ¡ÈJujutsu¡É was changed to
> ¡ÈJudo¡É. In China, in the old days, people called
> Hakuda or Baida for
> Chinese kungfu, Kenpo or Chuanfa (= Quanfa). Like
> those examples, names
> changes according to times. I think the name
> ¡ÈKarate-Do¡É is better than
> just ¡ÈKarate¡É. However, I will reserve decision on
> this matter, as I
> think we should hear other people¡Çs opinions. We
> had a controversy on this
> matter at the meeting of Okinawa Branch of Dai
> Nippon Butokukai. We shelved
> this controversial problem. In the mean time, we,
> members of Okinawa
> Branch, use the name ¡ÈKarate-Do¡É written in Kanji
> as ¡ÈThe Way of Chinese
> Hand¡É. Shinkokai (= a karate promotion center) will
> be formed soon, so we
> would like to have a good name.
>
> Oroku: Mr. Miyagi, did you go all the way to China
> for studying karate?
>
> Chojun Miyagi: At the beginning I had no plan to
> practice kungfu in China,
> but I found the kungfu excellent, so I leaned it.
>
>
> - to be continued -
>
> Sanzinsoo
> sanzinsoo@...
>
>
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