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Re: [gojuryu] Re: CMAC took my money and my Dojo

Dear Friend,

It took us over a year and half to come to this, but
we finally did it. WE WON.

take a look at the pdf file located on my web page:

www.geocities.com/wabushi2001/wabushidojo.html

The pdf file is is the decision of The Honorable
Justice P.T. Matlow of the Superior Court of Justice.
The decision we had been waiting for all this time.

it speaks for itself...

(sample of what you will find inside the document...)

[17] In my view, the defendant (pat williams)
.....was able to use his personal skills to excercise
control over the plaintiff, to receive money and other
forms of payment from him and then to remove him when
the plaintiff no longer suited his purpose. What he
did to the plaintiff was a deliberate and carefully
crafted scheme to exploit their relationship and take
advantage of him.

[19] ......In my view none of the evidence given by
these witnesses could be trusted....they were
motivated by their collective determination to
maintain the authority of platt and the defendent and
to punish anyone including the plaintiff who had the
audacity to stand up to either off them. They
presented themselves as intolerant bullies and as
witnesses whose concept of the obligation to tell the
truth was secondary to advancing their collective
interests...

go ahead, read the file, it just gets better!!!

Sincerely,


Narbeh G. Khachikian
--- Janet & Don Meech <roku.kyo@...> wrote:
> If there are black belts who are looking for a place
> to belong, I would be
> more than happy to meet with everyone and discuss
> the details of our
> association in Ontario to the Jundokan in Okinawa.
> We have created a small,
> but happy group that enjoys learning and practicing
> Okinawa Goju Ryu Karate
> Do and we all learn directly from the Okinawan
> masters. As a matter of fact,
> if you wish to contact me, I welcome you as my guest
> to meet my teacher,
> 10th dan vice chairman of the Jundokan, Hanshi
> Tetsunosuke Yasuda, as he
> will be here the last week of September.
>
> Independence is a wonderful thing. Dictatorship
> ruins the spirit and takes
> the enjoyment out of training. Our association is
> based on participatory
> democracy.
>
> Contact me by return e-mail. You are welcome to
> visit my website at
> http://meech.weblogger.com
>
> Don Meech
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wabushi2001 <wabushi2001@...>
> To: gojuryu@yahoogroups.com
> <gojuryu@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:56 AM
> Subject: [gojuryu] Re: CMAC took my money and my
> Dojo
>
>
> >Jim,
> >
> >when I initially set out to open my Dojo, I did not
> have a company
> >set up (incorporation), so patrice said no worries,
> to make it
> >official we'll put the lease under my (patrice)
> name and when I got
> >my incorporation done we would transfer over the
> lease to my name...
> >
> >in fact the lawyer who drafted the offer to lease
> can and will
> >testify the fact that the offer was set up as
> patrice's name "in
> >trust for a company to be incorporated"...legally
> the intented lease
> >holder would be me...
> >
> >as well, all the money I borrowed from family and
> friends were
> >deposited into patrice's bank account(I have the
> cheque stubs to
> >prove this)
> >
> >once we had the master key seminar some things were
> said that made me
> >feel uncomfortable, and I started to find other
> information about
> >patrice's business dealings in the past that made
> me write a letter
> >to patrice requesting the transfer of the lease and
> the business
> >account (as by this time I had my incorporation set
> up)
> >
> >I guess patrice did not like the fact that I wanted
> to have control
> >over my own business...I even have patrice's
> voicemail saying we can
> >go ahead and transfer the lease, the business
> account, etc...but if I
> >do that I will no longer be a part of CMAC...I
> followed up with a
> >second letter saying I had no intention to quit
> CMAC but just wanted
> >to separate the business from the training...
> >
> >at this point patrice said fine if that's what I
> want to do, meet at
> >two and we'll go over the paperwork...just after
> the phone message he
> >came over to the dojo and physically tried to
> remove me from my
> >dojo...after a brief physical confrontation I
> called the police and
> >the police talked to me then to patrice and asked
> me to leave the
> >premises as the patrice showed the lease under his
> name and signature
> >and this would have to be proven in courts...
> >
> >since then, 23 members have left CMAC and patrice
> williams, and this
> >is not over by far...
> >
> >if you have any suggestions to a) get my Dojo back
> b) get my money
> >back c) close CMAC forever so this scan does not
> continue over and
> >over again.
> >
> >
> >--- In gojuryu@y..., Jim Mc Coy <jim@j...> wrote:
> >> You still have never said how he got control of
> your dojo?
> >> Did you sell it to him? Or are you saying he
> took it from you
> >somehow?
> >>
> >> jm
> >>
>
============================================================
> >> From: "wabushi2001" <wabushi2001@y...>
> >> Date: 2002/06/13 Thu PM 02:42:20 EDT
> >> To: gojuryu@y...
> >> Subject: [gojuryu] CMAC took my money and my Dojo
> >>
> >> Dear reader,
> >>
> >> CMAC - Classical Martial Arts Canada took over my
> Dojo just a few
> >> weeks ago, including my students, my money, and
> all the time and
> >> effort I spend building the dojo from scratch.
> >>
> >> I guess this is what you get for blindly trusting
> your own
> >> Sensei...never thinking at any point he could
> betray you.
> >>
> >> The organization is CMAC - headed by Wally Platt,
> and his director
> >> Patrice Williams...
> >>
> >> Currently I am in legal battle to regain control
> of my Dojo. The
> >> worst of it is I am starting find, through
> research, that I am not
> >> alone, that CMAC has done this several times
> before, taking peoples
> >> Dojos or their monies...
> >>
> >> Believe it or not, we even have an article going
> back to 1993 which
> >> states Wally Platt took $250,000 from one of his
> students...
> >>
> >> "...In August, a Toronto judge told Platt that he
> could avoid
> >> bankrubtcy by paying ....... $175,000 by the end
> of the month.
>
> >This
> >> amount would have covered the secured portion of
> the $250,000
> >loan.)
> >>
> >> he did not come up with the money and
> automatically went into
> >> bankruptcy."
> >>
> >> If anyone has had any bad dealings with CMAC,
> Wally Platt, or
> >Patrice
> >> Williams...please post as it will help me with my
> legal battle.
> >>
> >> Yours in Budo,
> >>
> >> Narbeh
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
>
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Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:42 pm

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Dear reader, CMAC - Classical Martial Arts Canada took over my Dojo just a few weeks ago, including my students, my money, and all the time and effort I spend...
wabushi2001
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Jun 13, 2002
2:42 pm

You still have never said how he got control of your dojo? Did you sell it to him? Or are you saying he took it from you somehow? jm ...
Jim Mc Coy
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Jun 13, 2002
2:44 pm

Jim, when I initially set out to open my Dojo, I did not have a company set up (incorporation), so patrice said no worries, to make it official we'll put the...
wabushi2001
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Jun 13, 2002
3:00 pm

I am sorry to hear of this. You can easily get your dojo back by renting another place and bring your students with you. Unless they have a contract with CMAC...
Jim Mc Coy
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Jun 13, 2002
3:05 pm

Jim, you are right...all my start up money is lost, and I had just opened up the dojo about a month ago, so I only had about 10 students... right now I have...
wabushi2001
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Jun 13, 2002
3:25 pm

I am not in Canada, but I am glad I heard of this scam. Does CMAC have a web site? jim ============================================================ From:...
Jim Mc Coy
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Jun 13, 2002
3:28 pm

their website is www.cmac1.com I have a list of about 15 people who have one way or another been duped by these people in the past...what a shame... ... opened...
wabushi2001
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Jun 13, 2002
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If there are black belts who are looking for a place to belong, I would be more than happy to meet with everyone and discuss the details of our association in...
Janet & Don Meech
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Jun 13, 2002
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Dear Friend, It took us over a year and half to come to this, but we finally did it. WE WON. take a look at the pdf file located on my web page: ...
narbeh khachikian
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