Dear Mr. Bill Steigner,

1828 is correct! Bunsei is the name of era. The 11th year of Bunsei era is
1828. In the original Japanese text, for accuracy, Miyagi has added the
equivalent year of Chinese era, namely the 8th year of Dao Guang era (Qing
dynasty). The 8th year of Dao Guang era is 1828. Therefore, it is a mistake
if Mr. Tamano translated Bunsei 11 as 1879.

I am the one who translated this essay "Historical Outline of Karate-do"
last year and also posted it to this Gojuryu Yahoogroup forum. Please read
the Message No.2790 Historical Outline of Karate-do (Part 3) dated
December 8, 2001. Recently my translation article has appeared again in the
"Fighting Arts".

www.fightingarts.com/content03/miyagi_historical.shtml

Sanzinsoo in Osaka, Japan





>From: "Bill Steigner" <wsteigner@a...> Date: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:25
>amSubject: Re: 1828 Fujian Gung Fu comes to Okinawa
>--- In goju_ryu@y..., "Ed Boyd" <ceboyd@a...> wrote:> > In 1936 in Miyagi
stated >in his Historical Outline of Karate-Do "In > 1828 our ancestors
inherited a Gung->Fu style from Fujian provincein > China. They continued
their studies and formed >Goju-Ryu karate." > > Ed BoydDear Ed Boyd Sensei;
the translation by Toshio >Tamano of the ShoreiKan is "However, the only
theory in which we can trust is >that, in Bunsei 11 [1879],Chinese fukien
style was brought to Okinawa[by Kanryo >Higashionna] and became goju-ryu
karate boxing aftercontinued improvement. The >group which is heir to that
legitimacystill exists with regular succession on >Okinawa today."The 1879
date is the correct one i think at least it make a >better fit for Gojuryu
than the date of 1828. A thought hit me lets checkthe >date with the Qing
or Ching dynasty but it had a long run 1644 until 1911 so we >can`t use
that as a cross check, maybe someothers have a different translation >and
will chime in. Thank you. Bill Steigner







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