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Hello all,
    I read the FAPRS and right now I´m reading the Fap´s new book and I  have some questions about the CRB3. I hope you guys can help me on  this.
    First, in the definition of the CRB1 and CRB2 the behavior has to happen in-session and in the context of the therapeutic  relationship. However, in the definition of the CRB3, according to  FAPRS,  the descriptions of controlling variables are CRB3s whether  the client describes in-session variables, or those contingencies  outside the therapy setting. Reading the Fap´s new book, chapter 1,  "when clients` talk about their own behavior and the causes of it is  labeled CRB3 (...).While the best CRB3s involve the observation and  description of one´s own behavior and associated reinforcing,  discriminative and eliciting stimuli, any `causal` talk may be seen  as CRB3 because it represents an opportunity to shape something  important to FAP in the therapy session" (p. 14). I thought the  behavior classified as CRB1, CRB2 or CRB3 would have to happen only  in-session and in the context of the therapeutic relationship. I was  wondering why the CRB3 is not included in this definition.
    1) What´s the difference between the CRB3 and contingency  analysis made by the client?
    2) In an experimental research, when I add Fap, how can I  separate the CRB3s from other functional interpretations? Are they  the same thing?
    3) Then, if they are the same thing, wouldn´t have I more CRB3  comparing to the others (CRB1 and 2) and could this cause a  distortion of the data?
    4) After a client´s "causal talk" that offers an opportunity to  the therapist to shape a CRB3, wouldn´t it be just an attempt to shape a CRB3 and not the CRB3?  
 
Thanks,

Claudia Oshiro
Terapeuta Analítico-Aomportamental
Av. Rouxinol, 1041 - Conj. 1701
Moema - São Paulo/SP
   (11) 9631-9500  
   (19) 3434-9597   (Piracicaba/SP)

 

Claudia Oshiro

Terapeuta analítico-comportamental

Av. Rouxinol, 1041 - Conj. 1701

Moema - São Paulo/SP

(11) 9631-9500

(19) 3434-9597 (Piracicaba/SP)




De: luc.vandenberghe <luc.vandenberghe@...>
Para: functionalanalyticpsychotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 16 de Janeiro de 2009 13:43:31
Assunto: [functionalanalyticpsychotherapy] Re: review of the new book?

Yes, Tore,
It is wildly different from the previous book. It is much better-
both in its conceptual clarity (for instance, this book is much
clearer on the role of radical behavioral philosophy in their
thinking and on how they understand radical behaviorism a bit
ideocyncratically, if I may say so - Also the syncronicities with
other third wave behavior therapies are quite explicit and so are
the points that set FAP apart). The major improvement, is that case
conceptualisation and treatment strategies as well as their
implications for supervision etc. are explained in a cristal clear
language, much better accessible for the non-initiated. If buying
the new book is too big an investment, you might sell the old one
first?

--- In functionalanalyticp sychotherapy@ yahoogroups. com, "T.
Gustafsson" <tore.gustafsson@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi there!
>
> Have anybode read the book and can you please comment on it? Is it
wildly
> different from the previous book? I'm still a student and parted
with a lot
> of cash for the first book. :)
>
> I've read on Amazon about what Marsha, Hayes and the others have
to say but
> what about you on the list?
>
> Thanks!
>
> //Tore Gustafsson, Sweden
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Renee Hoekstra <pharlap14@. ..>
wrote:
>
> > So...our listserve has been quiet for quite some time- and a
new book
> > just came out! I am very excited. Someone bought it for me for
Christmas.
> >
> > Does anyone have websites with FAP information on it (besides the
> > faptherapy.com website)/ marketing material with FAP stuff for
clients? I
> > am slowly and gradually following steps to building and putting
together a
> > private practice and my long term plans include FAP groups. I've
got a bunch
> > of website ideas mapped out.
> >
> > I also got accepted by the Northeast Society for Goup
Psychotherapy here in
> > Boston to do a 3 hour workshop on FAP groups in June.
> >
> >
>



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Hello all,     I read the FAPRS and right now I´m reading the Fap´s new book and I  have some questions about the CRB3. I hope you guys can help...
Claudia Oshiro
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Jan 23, 2009
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Hi Claudia, Well I think you have asked some very good and complicated questions, and I have tried to be brief in my response but largely failed at that. When...
Jonathan W Kanter
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Jan 23, 2009
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Dear Jonathan and Claudia Definitely an interesting question and issue. I can see the merit in defining causal talk as either a CRB1 or 2-- this captures the...
Bob Kohlenberg
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Bob this is interesting. Can you clarify your cognitive therapy example just so I understand? Here it is: "Let’s say the cognitive therapist tells the...
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