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Hi Luc,
 
You gave me some inspiration to think about the case again. 
 
Thanks a lot.
 
 
Claudia Oshiro

Terapeuta analítico-comportamental

Av. Rouxinol, 1041 - Conj. 1701

Moema - São Paulo/SP

(11) 9631-9500

(19) 3434-9597 (Piracicaba/SP)



----- Mensagem original ----
De: Luc Vandenberghe <luc.vandenberghe@...>
Para: functionalanalyticpsychotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 31 de Janeiro de 2008 12:22:45
Assunto: Re: [functionalanalyticpsychotherapy] supervision and family

Hi Claudia,
 
Your story reminds me of what my supervisor once said to me, more then twenty years ago: When you know too much about the causal determinants of your client’s behavior, you have no room to maneuver as a therapist. If you would know all your clients knows about his or her problems, you would be as paralyzed as they are. Another experience that comes to mind: some fifteen years ago, I was treating an employee of a launderette, the owner of the launderette and the upstairs neighbor of the employee all at the same time, without knowing that they knew each other. The neighbor, who suffered from depression and had restricted her social activities. One of her goals for therapy was to rebuild her social support network, so she began to entertain people at home late at night, making a lot of noise. One of the goals of therapy for the employee of the launderette was to learn to stand up for her rights, so she tried to be assertive with the neighbor. Her boss, the owner of the launderette had as a goal for therapy to develop social skills to deal with her employees who were not respecting her leadership in the business. And this was quite a challenge with the employee who was learning to be assertive. If I had known earlier that the three clients were directly involved in each other’s daily life problems, I would probably have tried to coordinate the efforts and got paralyzed in the process. As I only found out when it was too late, the three therapies turned out quite successfully. Of cause, when one client improved, this constituted a challenge for the other. But such challenges are also real-life opportunities for trying out new behavior. Of cause, from a FAP perspective, you must pay attention to what happens between you and your client, instead of trying to directly change the contingencies in his or her daily life. I think the answer of your problem is that you need to work with each client’s individual goals for therapy, and use what you know about the others only as background information.
Hope this gives you some inspiration,
 
Luc


Claudia Oshiro <claudiaoshiro77@ yahoo.com. br> escreveu:
Hello all,
 
We have a case of a poor family at the University of São Paulo and we are having some doubts about how to deal with this condition: we have three therapists, each one is seeing different members of the family in individual therapy.
Therapist 1 - seeing a 9 years old boy.
Therapist 2 - seeing his brother, a 10 years old boy.
Therapist 3 - seeing their mother.
 
As we started the group of supervision, some years ago, we could notice some advantages discussing the case of this family because we could have so many informations and more access to the controlling variables of all the members of the family. We discussed the complementary patterns, some likeness. We could see that one intervention of the therapist 1, for exemple, could produce a change in the other member and so on. After that, we could notice some disavantages: what we could consider as an improvement to one client could unbalance the family and its dynamics and some consequences were not so good. Then, all the interventions needed to be synchronized (a hard thing to do). We went to school and to their home and what should have been good (to go to the enviroment and look and observe) brought some strange feelings to the therapists: they felt like they were impotent to deal with all the varibles and information. So now, we stopped the case because many other problems were showing (schedule problems, family without money to come to the university.. .).
 
Well, now we are discussing the limits of this, what went wrong, what was good, and the role of a supervision in this case.
We were wondering if anybody knows any reference about this kind of situation or if had any similar experience. I can give more details about the case.
 
Thanks,
 
 
Claudia Oshiro
Terapeuta analítico-comportame ntal
Av. Rouxinol, 1041 - Conj. 1701
Moema - São Paulo/SP
(11) 9631-9500
(19) 3434-9597 (Piracicaba/ SP)


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Hi Luc, You gave me some inspiration to think about the case again. Thanks a lot. Claudia Oshiro Terapeuta analítico-comportamental Av. Rouxinol, 1041 - Conj....
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Hi Reo, We are still thinking about all the things that had happened in this case. One of our major problem, as you said, was to define who the client was. We...
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