We haven't started the group yet. It is being
discouraged by a slow IRB proposal process. I am
a bit anxious becuase my post-doc ends in June and the
group is set for 16 weeks. I don't know that I will
show the clients the CRB1 list so as not to overwhelm-
it is more a frame of reference. I will see. I just
wanted to have some samples for clients about the
things that we will address in group.

I think it will be a bit of a challenge to get clients
to be able to observe/ describe in group behavior and
to start to get the idea of identifying CRB1's/ CRB2'.
I plan to spend a lot of time doing validation
strategies and accurate reflection/ description of
behavior before getting to "work".

Thanks for the feedback. You are the only one who
wrote me back. I am working with Mavis on co-writing a
chapter for FAP application to group. I am hoping to
go to the American Group Psychotheapy Association
conference in DC in Feb, but I'm waiting to see if I
get a scholorship to go. I had a lot of good training
with group people who are affiliated with AGPA.

--- Luc Vandenberghe <luc.vandenberghe@...>
wrote:

> Hi Renee,
>
> I didn't see any feedback on your handouts. What
> do the clients in the group think of them? We have
> run a few FAP based depression groups and pain
> groups, but we generally didn't use extensive
> handout material. When we did, there seemed to be a
> strong inverse relationship between the length of
> the handout and the use clients made of it. For our
> clientele, the CRB lists would be to long to have
> much influence. I am curious about the use clients
> make in-session of the way CRB's are formulated in
> your lists. Do they adopt the proposed language or
> do they use their own vernacular?
>
> Luc
>
> Renee Hoekstra <pharlap14@...> escreveu:
>
> Hi fellow FAP people,
>
> I am working on a project for a FAP group
> (interpersonal process group according to FAP). This
> is my research project/ treatment development for my
> post-doc. We are planning to implement the group for
> our Stage 2 and 3 DBT clients sometime after the New
> Year.
>
> I have developed a few things to structure and
> format
> the group, and am open to feedback if people want to
> look them over. For the purposes of this study, I
> will
> not be the individual therapist for the majority of
> the clients, and I will not have the opportunity for
> case conceptualization prior to the group beginning.
> Thus, my interest is mainly the application of FAP
> for
> groups.
>
> CRB1 List- This is a list of descriptions of
> behaviors
> that occur in groups that may be targeted for the
> treatment. My goal was just to generate descriptions
> of what people do and to possibly share it with
> clients as a way to put words on CRB1's in a
> non-judgemental way. This list includes things that
> can happen in groups that don't necessarily happen
> in
> individual therapy. Goal is to get clients to do
> this
> with themselves and other so that they can increase
> competency and accuracy in a non-pejorative way
> about
> what they see occurring in front of them.
>
> CRB2 Working Group- I was recently challenged
> (thanks,
> Christeine) to come up with a CRB2 list. What
> happened
> is this brainstorm of thinking about what a working
> group looks like- one in which CRB1's occur
> considerably less. This may be at some point a
> measure, which also may be part of my research
> study-
> in any case, see what you think. I looked at the
> FIAT
> and thought about putting it into assessment
> categories, but the one difference is that I was
> aiming to just get a description rather than
> function.
>
> Session by Session Doc: These are handouts for
> clients
> that I am thinking of using to implement/ orient how
> this group is going to work.
> Handout A: Screening questionnaire for group members
> Handout B: CRB1 List (Introduction to CRB's)
> Handout C: Group goals
> Handouts 1-3: Session by session format for first
> three groups
> Handout 4: Observe the impact of your behavior on
> other group members, and observe the impact of their
> behaviors on you.
> Handout 5: Group Process Question List
> Handouts 6: (DBT list of emotion words)-this is not
> actually included, but the idea is to put all the
> DBT
> emotion words on one piece of paper in order to get
> client's to validate self and other- taking
> emotional
> "guesses" of what group members are feeling.
>
> I hope this is clear. I actually have an IRB
> proposal
> in the process and am still working on a few
> pre/post
> measures. I am having a hard time hunting down
> measures of group cohesion/ group alliance, (and
> Irvin
> Yalom has not been helpful), if anyone has
> suggestions
> on how to get them...that would be nice.
>
>
>
>
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