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Re: Anyone Taking Losartan?

Steve, what does "ARB" mean?

Paul



--- In fshsociety@yahoogroups.com, "steve" <globosa@...> wrote:
>
> Ps, further to similarities between Diovan and Losartan.
>
> Well, considering Mylan diltiazem and diltiazem ( generic ) are the
*same* compound ( diltiazem ) but merely "packaged" differently (
thus giving rise to the anecdotal claims why the same compound works
or doesn't work based on which brand you take ), I don't yet see why
the fact Diovan appeared not to be of benefit to yourself counts
against Losartan potentially having benefits when you take into
account that Diovan and Losartan are *not* the same compound ( unlike
mylan vs other packaged brands of diltiazem )
>
> Diovan contains the compound valsartan, which is similar to but not
the same as losartan and thus although they are both ARB's, its quite
well known that they do not all have the same effects, despite their
similarities.
>
> Nothing proven yet of course, but as I noted before, worthy of
interest based on the research alone.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: susan56391
> To: fshsociety@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:53 PM
> Subject: [fshsociety] Re: Anyone Taking Losartan?
>
> Why do you think that Losartan has more potential? I have been
taking
> Diovan for years and it has done nothing for FSH. As I understand
it
> Diovan and Losartan are similar drugs.
>
> --- In fshsociety@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Reed" <fshlabrat@> wrote:
> >
> > I agree that Losartan has more potential than diltiazem. I
tried
> the
> > Lefkowitz protocol (glycoscience.com) in 2002 with no benefit --
3
> > months of ambrotose, the last 2 with diltiazem at doses from
60mg
> to
> > 180mg.
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I noticed an interesting AP news item in my local newspaper yesterday. The article notes that a common blood pressure medication reduces muscle damage in mouse...
Edward Reed
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Jan 23, 2007
4:08 pm

I've never heard of Losartan, but it sounds very interesting... frogspor...
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Jan 23, 2007
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I called my Dr. today for his opinion and,as I have high blood pressure anyway,plan to try.I did some checking and found this too...
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Jan 26, 2007
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Apparently my first reply got lost in the electrons. I am also starting losartan early next month -- it will be nice to trial this with at least two...
Ed Reed
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Jan 28, 2007
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I'm also planning to start losartan early next month -- so we may have a trial of at least two anyway. I suggest that prior to starting, we establish baseline...
Ed Reed
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Jan 29, 2007
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Interesting link although not really specific to our disease ( the link dealing only with Marfan ) This link is a little more informative as it describes the...
steve
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Jan 26, 2007
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Well, at present there don't seem to be eough "volunteers" to make a decent experimental group. Nonetheles we shall watch with interest, as although the...
steve
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Jan 31, 2007
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Hi Ed What is the dose you are going to start with? Alla ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Alla Shevelyova
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Jan 31, 2007
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My target is 50mg/day but I'll have to work up to it slowly. When I was taking diltiazem I started low and raised it weekly. I'm sure my cardiologist will have...
Ed Reed
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I agree that Losartan has more potential than diltiazem. I tried the Lefkowitz protocol (glycoscience.com) in 2002 with no benefit -- 3 months of ambrotose,...
Ed Reed
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Why do you think that Losartan has more potential? I have been taking Diovan for years and it has done nothing for FSH. As I understand it Diovan and Losartan...
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My comparison was between losartan (an ARB) and diltiazem (a CCB) -- two entirely different meds aimed at reducing high blood pressure. However, you do pose a...
Ed Reed
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Feb 2, 2007
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it has already been said that diovan and lozaar are not exactly the same drug. they have slight differences in their molecular structure that lead to slight...
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Feb 3, 2007
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I mentioned I was taking Diovan because it is in the same family as losartan-angiotensin drugs. I am not taking it for FSH I am taking it for hypertension. It...
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My concern, Ed, ia whether this drug would lower my normal blood pressure to below normal which would not be good. Paul, who is happy to HAVE to take another...
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Feb 1, 2007
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ooops Happy to NOT have to take another pill p ... MD....
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My concern also Paul since normally my blood pressure runs a little low. I'll just have to monitor it closely. Ed...
Ed Reed
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Feb 1, 2007
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I suppose because unlike diltiazem, there is some empirical lab based research ( albeit in its infancy ) directly connected to MD that indicates it might have...
steve
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Ps, further to similarities between Diovan and Losartan. Well, considering Mylan diltiazem and diltiazem ( generic ) are the *same* compound ( diltiazem ) but...
steve
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Steve, what does "ARB" mean? Paul ... *same* compound ( diltiazem ) but merely "packaged" differently ( thus giving rise to the anecdotal claims why the same...
Paul
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Feb 2, 2007
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This will be interesting to watch. Who is doing the research? If it is individuals I have no problem with that but how is the progress, if any being measured? ...
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As to who is doing the research, only two that I know of -- myself and Bikebreakerbob. I can't speak for Bob but I intend to establish baseline measurements of...
Ed Reed
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Paul, ARB stands for "Angiotensin II receptor blockers". There are several of these compounds, many of them ending with*sartan. ( eg Losaratan, valsartan,...
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