Hello all-
I am an actor and teacher of acting. I currently teach at UCSB.
(http://www.theaterdance.ucsb.edu/people_facultyprofile.php?ResearcherID=200   
) I am, more importantly, the mom to 2 amazing boys, one of whom is autistic. I
am beginning work on a theatre project about autism.  My hope is that in sharing
the stories of many different people in the world of autism, especially those on
the "spectrum" themselves, audiences can come to a deeper understanding of the
joys, struggles and wonderful uniqueness that accompany autism.  I hope that
this theatre piece will engender a greater respect and understanding for all,
and help the world to celebrate rather than criticize or fear  "differentness" .

I'm very interested in interviewing some folks who want their voices heard.
Please get in touch with me if you'd be interested in spending some time talking
with me. I'd  also really appreciate it if you'd pass this on to others who you
think might be willing to  meet with me. I'm located in Santa Barbara, but plan
on traveling when it's required.
I wish you all the best and thank you in advance for your help.

Sincerely,
Annie Torsiglieri
atorsiglieri@...
anniet1@...
917-834-7508

Hi pattipili,
I have largely recovered from most of my amalgam-related problems, but a round
of 3 mg ALA can make me sick for 4-6 weeks, and .125 - .25 mg ALA is the most I
can tolerate without having problems.
Good luck,
Dave

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I just had all my amalgams removed a month ago (about 8 of them) with a
biological dentist.  I have been on all the supplements Andy says to take to
make yourself feel better.  I am waiting another month for my immune system to
heal somewhat before starting the Cutler Chelation.

My question is this: for several months now I have been taking a supplement
which unbeknownst to me contains 1mg of ALA and I would take it 1-3x day.  Could
this small amount have been chelating my brain if even on a small level??  (I
ask because I have had strong debilitating occurances happening on the left side
of my head, I feel like I'm cleansing and staying positive but I sets me down
for the count when it happens. I have found that magnesium hugely calms these
brain spells)

So, recapping could such a small dose of ALA have been mildly chelating me?

If you are low and actually tolerate iron and it helps, then its fine to take
some, but many toxic people do poorly with iron.  Andy explains this in HTI, and
it has been discussed here before.  Basically what happens is that iron causes
oxidative stress, which heavy metals do too, so in an effort to protect itself,
you body may dump your iron stores, to try to lower this.  This has happened to
a few of us here, including myself, as my ferritin level was only 4 like 4 years
ago.  And when I tried supplementing iron, it made me feel sick.  In this event,
Andy says what you need to do is lower oxidative stress by increasing your
antioxidant intake, especially Vit C, and this should help increase your
ferritin levels.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out that iron isn't good for everyone, and it is
one of the supps that Andy warns against taking, unless you really need it and
it actually makes you feel better.  And that is always the bottom line, what
works for *you*.  And that may be different for different people.--------Jackie




--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, isaiah harrison <e34liphe@...>
wrote:
>
> I think iron gets a bad rap, but if you're not digesting well it will be hard
to absorb it, the one downside is it can make a cold worse so it you have a cold
or you feel like one is coming on, i would pause.
>
>
> --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Pamela H <phaselow@...> wrote:
>
> Now that you say this about iron/insomnia, I think it helped me, too.  I
switched my multi to one that contains iron and I have been sleeping better. 
Interesting!
>
> pam
>
>
> --- In frequent-dose- chelation@ yahoogroups. com, isaiah harrison <e34liphe@
.> wrote:
>
> > supplemental iron really helped my insomnia.
>
>
>
> >       2009/11/11 Regina Ferraro <ferraro5050@ yahoo.com>:
>
> > > Hi Alexis:
>
> > > I have been chelating for about two years now usually four days on and
three days off.  I also have tried to give my body a rest but the insomnia
starts, my gut gets sore and I am depressed.  Actually feel the metals
building up all over my body.  Have red spots on my temporal lobes, chest and
arms.
>
> >
>

Do you have Andy's Hair Test Interpretation book?  If not, I would suggest you
get it, since you seem to have a great interest in hair tests and what mercury
does to them.  He explains alot in there about deranged mineral transport, and
which minerals are more likely to be affected.  And lithium falls into that
group, as one of the minerals more likely than others to go in the red when
mercury is a problem.

Everyone is different, so mercury can affect us differently, so that's why the
counting rules are set up as they are, counting the number of items out of
place, not specifically which ones.  Although, again, Andy does mention in there
which ones are *more* likely to go out of range than the others.

Also, in HTI, Andy does say that the amount of lithium found in the soil, so
hence getting into food, varies alot by location, and can be part of the reason
for many people being low red.

Jay has some posts collected about lithium at the wiki, although I'm sure there
are many more if you search archives, as this talks mostly about dosing I think,
although I didn't go and read them all.  Hope this helps, and again, I suggest
you get the book.------Jackie

http://onibasu.com/wiki/Lithium


--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, Adz1997 <adz1997@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks. But there hair tests with normal lithium levels but people are
> still mercury poisoned. How would you explain that?
>
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2009, at 9:42 AM, "lindajaytee" <lindajaytee@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "alexnyc1997"
> > <adz1997@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > I've been looking through the DDI hair tests on livingnetwork site
> > and I noticed that most of them have one thing in common a low level
> > of lithium. What does that mean? Anyone know? I heard that lithium
> > levels relate to the brain somehow.
> > >
> >
> > Low lithium is one of the factors that can indicate mercury
> > toxicity. Maybe it has to do with the way that mercury interferes
> > with mineral transport. When lithium is low on a hair test, we
> > recommend supplementing it (low doses like we get from a health food
> > store, not pharmacological doses).
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > > Thanks
> > > Alex
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I think iron gets a bad rap, but if you're not digesting well it will be hard to
absorb it, the one downside is it can make a cold worse so it you have a cold or
you feel like one is coming on, i would pause.


--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Pamela H <phaselow@...> wrote:

Now that you say this about iron/insomnia, I think it helped me, too.  I
switched my multi to one that contains iron and I have been sleeping better. 
Interesting!

pam


--- In frequent-dose- chelation@ yahoogroups. com, isaiah harrison <e34liphe@..
.> wrote:

> supplemental iron really helped my insomnia.



>       2009/11/11 Regina Ferraro <ferraro5050@ yahoo.com>:

> > Hi Alexis:

> > I have been chelating for about two years now usually four days on and three
days off.  I also have tried to give my body a rest but the insomnia starts,
my gut gets sore and I am depressed.  Actually feel the metals building up
all over my body.  Have red spots on my temporal lobes, chest and arms.

>

Thanks. But there hair tests with normal lithium levels but people are
still mercury poisoned. How would you explain that?



On Nov 12, 2009, at 9:42 AM, "lindajaytee" <lindajaytee@...> wrote:

>
>
> --- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "alexnyc1997"
> <adz1997@...> wrote:
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > I've been looking through the DDI hair tests on livingnetwork site
> and I noticed that most of them have one thing in common a low level
> of lithium. What does that mean? Anyone know? I heard that lithium
> levels relate to the brain somehow.
> >
>
> Low lithium is one of the factors that can indicate mercury
> toxicity. Maybe it has to do with the way that mercury interferes
> with mineral transport. When lithium is low on a hair test, we
> recommend supplementing it (low doses like we get from a health food
> store, not pharmacological doses).
>
> Linda
>
> > Thanks
> > Alex
> >
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I went through Andy's supplement lists in AI and tried to simplify it for new
people.  Below is my interpretation.  What do you think?  Is this way of listing
them easier to follow?

----------------------------------------------
Linda's version of Andy's supplement list, for adults.

All supplements are to be taken at the same doses on or off rounds.  These
supplements are also helpful to take before and during amalgam removal, when
preparing for chelation, and when taking breaks from chelation.

Water soluble (W) supplements are to be taken in 3-4 divided doses (with meals
and at bedtime).

Oil soluble (O) supplements can be taken once/day

The Four essential supplements:

- Vitamin C (W), 4-12 g/day

- Magnesium (W),750 mg/day

- Zinc (W), 50-100 mg/day (100 mg to start, 50 mg when you begin using ALA)

- Vitamin E (O), 400-1000 IU/day

The next most important group of essential supplements:

- Milk Thistle Extract (W), equivalent to 250-750 mg silymarin

- Fish Oil or Flax Oil (O), 15-50 g (1 - 3 1/3 T). *

- B 100 or B 50 complex (W), 2-4/day

- molybdenum (W), 1,000 mcg/day

- chromium picolinate (W), 600-1000 mcg/day (200 mcg with each meal)

- coenzyme Q10 (W), 100-400 mg/day

- Vitamin A, 10,000-20,000 IU/day (women with potential to become pregnant
should supplement below 10,000 IU)**

- Vitamin D, 1,000-2000 IU/day (use 25(OH)vitamin D blood tests to bring levels
up to an optimal range of 100-150 nmol/L) **

Other important supplements to consider (see "Amalgam Illness" for indications
and dosage)

- lecithin or phosphatidylcholine

- vitamin B6 and B12

- Folic acid

- Inositol

- taurine

- Lysine

- Arginine

- acetyl-L-carnitine

- trimethylglycine

- histidine

- Accolate (Rx)

- Forskolin

- DHEA

- pregnenolone

- cortisol (Rx)

- dessicated thyroid (Rx)

- Borage oil (or evening primrose oil) as a source of GLA

- Hydergine (Ergoloid mesylate)  Rx

- vinpocetine

More supplements and medications are described on pages 133-167 of "Amalgam
Illness".  Use that section to match your symptoms to supplements that might
help to alleviate those symptoms during chelation.

-----------------------------------------------------------------




* Start with fish or cod liver oil and replace some of the total amount needed
with flax oil as tolerated and depending on what you can afford.  Good quality
fish oil is a more expensive source of omega 3 oil than flax oil.  Some people
do not have the enzymes needed to convert flax oil.

** If you are using cod liver oil as a source of omega 3, check to see how much
of the daily vitamin A and D requirement is supplied.


----------------------------------------------------------------


--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Scarano" <chris@...>
wrote:
>
> Please do bore me... I want to do this proper!
> I've posted here the lists that I compiled from reading Andy's book.  Since I
do have memory problems I will have to read it again to verify it is correct.
> Any comments would help.  It just seems like there is way too much stuff to
take.  Is there not a healthy multi that can elimate some of these?
>
> Nutritionals:
> B100 - TIME RELEASE
> VITAMIN C(BUFFERED) - 8 GRAMS
> VITAMIN E - 1000 IU
> B6 - 500 MG
> B12(SUBLINGUAL) - 10,000+ MCG
> MILK THISTLE EXTRACT - 300+ MG
> FLAX OIL(OMEGA 3) - 10+ GRAMS
> BORAGE OIL(OMEGA 6) 1 TO 4 GRAMS
> LECITIN - 10+ GRAMS
> CO-Q-10 - 100+ MG
> DHEA - 50 MG
> ECHINACEA(5 DAYS PER MONTH) dosage???
>
> Additional Supplementation:
> CAROTENE - 7.5+ MG
> INOSITOL - 2-12 GRAMS
> LYSINE - 2 GRAMS
> ARGININE - 6 GRAMS
> MAGNESIUM - 750 MG
> CHROMIUM - 1,000 MCG
> ACETYL-L-CARNITINE - 1 TO 2 GRAMS
> ZINC - 50-100 MG
> MOLYBDENUM - 1,000 MCG
>
> Also:
> FORSKOLIN - 80 MG
> PREGNENOLONE - 300 MG
> CORTISOL OR HYDROCORTISONE dosage???
> DESICCATED THYROID ???
> FOLIC ACID - 1.6 TO 10 MG
> TRIMETHYLGLYCINE - 1.5 TO 3 GRAMS
> HISTIDINE - .5 TO 2 GRAMS
> ACCOLATE ???
> TAURINE - 500 TO 3,000 MG
>
> --- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "colette" <cann7899@> wrote:
> >
> > ==Take the total amount for the day and divide into 4. I have a few
exceptions
> >
> > Zinc - 25 mg (2x a day, 25 at am and 25 at dinner)
> > B complesx - 100mg total divided into 4 - 25 mg doses
> > 8000mg vit c - divided into 4, 2000 mg doses
> > Magnesium - 400 total, divided into 4 100mg doses
> >
> > You get the picture.  I take more stuff but won't bore ya with the details.
> >
> > I take the doses at breakfast, lunch, dinner and bedtime.
> >
> > Colette
> > ======
> > --- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Scarano" <chris@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I wrote down a list of all of the nutritionals and supplementation Andy
recommends but I am confused about how many times a day I should take them.  Do
I shove them all down first thing in the morning or do a take some of them
throughout the day?
> > >
> >
>

--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "alexnyc1997" <adz1997@...>
wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> I've been looking through the DDI hair tests on livingnetwork site and I
noticed that most of them have one thing in common a low level of lithium. What
does that mean? Anyone know? I heard that lithium levels relate to the brain
somehow.
>


Low lithium is one of the factors that can indicate mercury toxicity.  Maybe it
has to do with the way that mercury interferes with mineral transport.  When
lithium is low on a hair test, we recommend supplementing it (low doses like we
get from a health food store, not pharmacological doses).

Linda


> Thanks
> Alex
>

Hello

2009/11/12 lindajaytee <lindajaytee@...>:
>
>
> --- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "jackietutts" <jtrunt@...>
wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> ------Hey Linda....That's great to hear!  Although I have to say that the
recent emotional stress has taken its toll, I do feel rather wiped out and
emotionally spent right now.  So my adrenals have taken a hit, but it is not an
adrenal crash by any means.  They're just telling me to take it easy for awhile
and give them a break.  I did some stress dosing yesterday, and that seemed to
help.  But again, the fact that I was willing to get so passionately involved in
things lately, I think is a sign of improvement in a big way.  So what have your
"glimmers" been?------Jackie
>>
>
> ==>Well, swimming 30-40 lengths at a time is one glimmer.... and I can do it
more than once a week... and with normal amounts of cortisol.  I haven't been
sick for a long time... I suppose that would have been my old self way back in
early childhood because the frequent illnesses started in University.  When I'm
reading I don't get side tracked like I used to.... so can read whole books,
remember parts and get interested in the topic.  I like that.  With the better
memory, I can remember what I was doing long enough to finish it... sometimes.
 Lots of little things like that.  Like you, I feel some passion coming back.

* Wow well done i havent been able to do that since about 2 years post
amalgam insertion (ME was taking hold at the time).
>
> ==>My biggest problem now is pain, and I think that is from injuries.  Oh
yeah, my other problem is sleeping too much.  The sleep problem seems almost
under control now since I discovered I have sleep apnea and got a CPAP machine.

* i also have more problems with pain than i realised. For some reason
the pain goes when im in the canary islands but with it the initiative
i have comes back. i take occasional paracetamol and swimming also
helps the pain. If this cold goes then i can attend swimming pool
tomorrow. i think i sleep too much due to my fibro since i dont drop
off during the day unless im really stressed out.
i had a milk thistle/licorice Dr Seuss tea last night and it helped me
settle down.

--
Alexis

Now that you say this about iron/insomnia, I think it helped me, too.  I
switched my multi to one that contains iron and I have been sleeping better. 
Interesting!

pam


--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, isaiah harrison <e34liphe@...>
wrote:
>
> supplemental iron really helped my insomnia.
>
>
>
>       2009/11/11 Regina Ferraro <ferraro5050@ yahoo.com>:
>
> > Hi Alexis:
>
> >
>
> > I have been chelating for about two years now usually four days on and three
days off.  I also have tried to give my body a rest but the insomnia starts, my
gut gets sore and I am depressed.  Actually feel the metals building up all
over my body.  Have red spots on my temporal lobes, chest and arms.
>

--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "jackietutts" <jtrunt@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> ------Hey Linda....That's great to hear!  Although I have to say that the
recent emotional stress has taken its toll, I do feel rather wiped out and
emotionally spent right now.  So my adrenals have taken a hit, but it is not an
adrenal crash by any means.  They're just telling me to take it easy for awhile
and give them a break.  I did some stress dosing yesterday, and that seemed to
help.  But again, the fact that I was willing to get so passionately involved in
things lately, I think is a sign of improvement in a big way.  So what have your
"glimmers" been?------Jackie
>

==>Well, swimming 30-40 lengths at a time is one glimmer.... and I can do it
more than once a week... and with normal amounts of cortisol.  I haven't been
sick for a long time... I suppose that would have been my old self way back in
early childhood because the frequent illnesses started in University.  When I'm
reading I don't get side tracked like I used to.... so can read whole books,
remember parts and get interested in the topic.  I like that.  With the better
memory, I can remember what I was doing long enough to finish it... sometimes. 
Lots of little things like that.  Like you, I feel some passion coming back.

==>My biggest problem now is pain, and I think that is from injuries.  Oh yeah,
my other problem is sleeping too much.  The sleep problem seems almost under
control now since I discovered I have sleep apnea and got a CPAP machine.

Linda



>
>

Isaiah,
Did you know you were low on iron? Did you do a simple blood test?
 
I don't show up low on iron, but I do on ferritin - which is the storing of iron
(as much as I know about it).
-E.

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, isaiah harrison <e34liphe@...> wrote:


From: isaiah harrison <e34liphe@...>
Subject: Re: [frequent-dose-chelation] Chelation Pause _ Why is it important?
To: frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 2:56 PM


 



supplemental iron really helped my insomnia.

2009/11/11 Regina Ferraro <ferraro5050@ yahoo.com>:

> Hi Alexis:

>

> I have been chelating for about two years now usually four days on and three
days off.  I also have tried to give my body a rest but the insomnia starts, my
gut gets sore and I am depressed.  Actually feel the metals building up all
over my body.  Have red spots on my temporal lobes, chest and arms.











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

n-acetyl-cysteine

more below


--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "dlee427" <dlee427@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> So i have a supplement called Overdrive by Nuskin and it has chromium and some
other stuf or recovery but it also have about 50mg of NAC in it. I have heard
this is good or bad but I'm not sure how it relates to someone that hasn't
currently gotten their fillings out. Should I avoid this product?
>

--------I am not familiar with this product at all, and we usually suggest
taking your supplements separately, so you know how you react to each
ingredient.  I have given some links about NAC, that I hope will explain this
well, but it has to do with your plasma cysteine levels, whether you should take
NAC or not.  It doesn't matter whether you still have fillings in or not.  If
your plasma cysteine levels are low, then NAC may help you feel better.  If they
are already high, then it will make you feel worse, and should be avoided.  This
is all related to the sulfur foods we talk about.  I hope this
helps.------Jackie


http://onibasu.com/wiki/N-Acetyl_Cysteine_(NAC)
http://onibasu.com/wiki/Cysteine_status

Hello

2009/11/10 Elizabeth <sendtoelizabeth@...>:
> I'm just wondering if anyone has used tryptophan as a supplement to help you
sleep. I've really gone through the list but I haven't tried tryptophan since I
eat plenty of turkey...but I was just reading that the protein would stop any
sleep effects from the tryptophan.
>
> As usual, I'm desperate for sleep so it's truly one of the last I haven't
tried.

Yes im on 5htp which is a form of tryptophan and it makes me sleep,
less depressed and hungry.
>
> So if anyone has experience with it, for us mercury toxic people in desperate
need for sleep, please tell me if you found it helpful or > not. For myself,
it's the hardest symptom I deal with. I'm just so tired of being - tired.

Im the same and im treating fibromyalgia.

--
Alexis

supplemental iron really helped my insomnia.



       2009/11/11 Regina Ferraro <ferraro5050@ yahoo.com>:

> Hi Alexis:

>

> I have been chelating for about two years now usually four days on and three
days off.  I also have tried to give my body a rest but the insomnia starts, my
gut gets sore and I am depressed.  Actually feel the metals building up all
over my body.  Have red spots on my temporal lobes, chest and arms.

I tried sending a message earlier not
sure if I sent it or not.

Was intrigued by the information you
provided of your Raynauds improving.
I have it as well and was wondering
what brand/product Milk Thistle you
are taking. Also is it an extract,
tincture, or whole powder? How much
throughout the day? Has any other
supplement helped your sensitivity
to cold?

I've been chelating with ALA 25mg +
DMPS 15mg 5 day rounds, nearly 25
rounds.

-David

2009/11/11 Regina Ferraro <ferraro5050@...>:
> Hi Alexis:
>
> I have been chelating for about two years now usually four days on and three
days off.  I also have tried to give my body a rest but the insomnia starts, my
gut gets sore and I am depressed.  Actually feel the metals building up all over
my body.  Have red spots on my temporal lobes, chest and arms.

* Sorry to hear it isnt going too well. Actually someone else was the
original poster. Can you tolerate 5htp? I use 150mg and its the only
anti depressant that works for me. i also take taurine 1g per night
both are available from a HFS but 5htp is fairly expensive at least in
the uk.
(snip)
--
Alexis

Hi,

So i have a supplement called Overdrive by Nuskin and it has chromium and some
other stuf or recovery but it also have about 50mg of NAC in it. I have heard
this is good or bad but I'm not sure how it relates to someone that hasn't
currently gotten their fillings out. Should I avoid this product?

--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "alexnyc1997" <adz1997@...>
wrote:
>
> Colette,
>
> Thank you for your response. Can you tell me how long did it take for your
symptoms to disappear? I read on Dr.Huggins site that B12 is not a good vitamin
to take because it can move mercury around. Is that true?

-----No.  Andy and Boyd Haley disagree with Huggins on this.  I would trust the
chemists when it comes to stuff like this ;)   In general, Huggins is a dentist
and good at the dental stuff, but when it comes to chelation, I would only trust
Cutler.  Here are a couple of posts by Andy that Linda has saved in our Links
section, and many more can be found by searching onibasu.------Jackie


http://onibasu.com/archives/am/92940.html
http://onibasu.com/archives/am/73181.html


>
<snip>

--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "lindajaytee" <lindajaytee@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "jackietutts" <jtrunt@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > > ------  But I am hopeful by the amount of things I've been able to do
and the added stress I have handled in the past few months as good signs of
progress, although like I said, it takes lots of hormone support to do this.
 But I have been able to be very passionate about things lately, which I can say
in the past, I think mercury has robbed from me.  So I have great hope that if I
can get back to chelation, I will continue to improve, as I  would sure like to
get my old self back!!!  She's in there somewhere!
>
> ===>Hey Jackie... I've been seeing some glimmers of the old self too....
>
> Linda  ;0)

------Hey Linda....That's great to hear!  Although I have to say that the recent
emotional stress has taken its toll, I do feel rather wiped out and emotionally
spent right now.  So my adrenals have taken a hit, but it is not an adrenal
crash by any means.  They're just telling me to take it easy for awhile and give
them a break.  I did some stress dosing yesterday, and that seemed to help.  But
again, the fact that I was willing to get so passionately involved in things
lately, I think is a sign of improvement in a big way.  So what have your
"glimmers" been?------Jackie



>
>
>   And I do get to see glimmers of her now and then, so she's there, I know it.
 She's just waiting to be released from the grips of heavy metals.  So just keep
chelating everyone.  Each round is one step closer to recovery.  And I'll repeat
what Andy has said many times before, chelate, chelate, chelate, and then
chelate some more.-------Jackie
> > >
> > > * Ive read to chelate for at least 6 months post cessation of symptoms.
> >
> > ------Yes, that is what Andy says.  He says your hair test will normalize,
and you'll feel fine/good long before you're done, so to keep going for awhile. 
And he also says that after you quit, if symptoms start returning then you are
not done.  Or take a 6 month break, and then try a few rounds of chelation
again, and see if you get any symptoms from a round.  The more metals you
remove, the better.------Jackie
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alexis
> > >
> >
>

I like the enamel coated Le Creuset items. They have enamel coated cast iron. 
Other competitors are doing the same thing and there are several lines at Bed
Bath and beyond.

--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Scarano" <chris@...>
wrote:
>
> I've been thinking of ditching my stainless pans too for fear of their side
effects and buying the ceramic ones that Dr. Mecola sells.  Does anyone have any
opinion on these before I blow the money for them:
http://cookware.mercola.com/Cookware.aspx
>
>
>

Hi Alexis:
 
I have been chelating for about two years now usually four days on and three
days off.  I also have tried to give my body a rest but the insomnia starts, my
gut gets sore and I am depressed.  Actually feel the metals building up all
over my body.  Have red spots on my temporal lobes, chest and arms.
 
I hope the blood you're testing is not whole blood, but RBC (red blood cell
count) and I've found that I have had enormous mercury dumps via the stool.  So
you might want to do a stool analysis.
 
I feel much better on chelation and if you do (that is you're not feeling any
adrenal pain in your back or kidney pain then I say go for it.  It's working
for me.
 
Regards,
 
Regina

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Alexis Miller <alexis.atrekkie22@...> wrote:



Hello

2009/11/10 Lake Baldwin <lakebaldwin@ yahoo.com>:
> In several Places In Cutler's AI and in places in the history of the various
message boards the importance of taking breaks in Chelation is emphasized. The
advice seems generally to be that you should take breaks at least as long as the
chelation period, or up to several times as long.

* ive heard it can be done at weekends 3 days on 4 days off and this
works for many members here.
>
> I am having problems going off the chelation agents. My symptoms, Peripheral
nerve pain and muscle weakness are seriously aggrevated to a point much worse
than before I started the chelation.

* What dosage are you on? What supplements are you taking? How long
since you began chelation? You could be in the stall period where your
symptoms get worse for a few months then level off. It is due to the
mercury pooling in your system and happens approximately 8-10 months
post 1st cycle.

Try as I might, after 48 - 60 hours of not taking the chelation
agents, ( i have moved from ALA alone to DMSA + ALA to DMSA alone to
DMPS alone, at steadily decreasing dosages to try to find a result I
can tolerate ) each time I go off the agent, my symptoms get so much
worse that I have to restart before the recommended pause. I feel like
I have fallen into a loop from which I cannot exit, despite my blood
(25 mcg/l to not detected) and urine levels (14mcg/day to 6) having
fallen a lot over the three month's I have been at this.

* ive read about some parents of autistics doing a several days long
round to get the lead out with DMSA. I dont think its part of the AC
protocol though?
>
> What are the downsides to short pauses? Are there implications for Kidney
issues? Andy I think refers to needing to give the body a break, and pausing
because, it's been done that way and worked, and not to conduct a human drug
trial without evidence that it's likely to work, but is there any documented
concern here? Does anyone have experience with chelating with only short pauses?

--
Alexis

--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, 777 <adz1997@...> wrote:
>
> My brother has the same issues where he couldn't drive but that went away
> after we removed the amalgams. Did you chelate with DMSA and ALA?

===yes.  both and am still chelating.  12.5 mg of both.  3 hours for 4 days then
10 days off.  I am going slowly since I have young children and have to function
as a mom.

Do you
> take B12 vitamins?==no just a b complex===


Colette
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:38 PM, colette <cann7899@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The perception issues took about a year to go and pop up every once in a
> > while. The feeling of motion still is with me about a couple times a month -
> > this is an improvement from daily.
> >
> > I also feel like I am still moving when I stop at stop signs while driving
> > - I don't drive anymore and haven't for three years. That is mostly gone
> > away too. Couple of times a month.
> >
> > I have chelated about 55 rounds in a two year period and seen vast
> > improvements in all my symptoms. The racing thoughts was one of the first
> > ones to go.
> >
> > The swaying and aggitation has also dimished from a daily hell to every
> > once in a while - this symptom is a result of eating foods with salicylates.
> >
> >
> > It does take time and general feelings of well being can be helped with
> > supplements and perhaps adrenal support and maybe something to help with
> > depression - I take 5HTP.
> >
> > Hope this helps. Colette======
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "jackietutts" <jtrunt@...>
wrote:
>
>
> > > ------  But I am hopeful by the amount of things I've been able to do and
the added stress I have handled in the past few months as good signs of
progress, although like I said, it takes lots of hormone support to do this.
 But I have been able to be very passionate about things lately, which I can say
in the past, I think mercury has robbed from me.  So I have great hope that if I
can get back to chelation, I will continue to improve, as I  would sure like to
get my old self back!!!  She's in there somewhere!

===>Hey Jackie... I've been seeing some glimmers of the old self too....

Linda  ;0)


   And I do get to see glimmers of her now and then, so she's there, I know it.
 She's just waiting to be released from the grips of heavy metals.  So just keep
chelating everyone.  Each round is one step closer to recovery.  And I'll repeat
what Andy has said many times before, chelate, chelate, chelate, and then
chelate some more.-------Jackie
> >
> > * Ive read to chelate for at least 6 months post cessation of symptoms.
>
> ------Yes, that is what Andy says.  He says your hair test will normalize, and
you'll feel fine/good long before you're done, so to keep going for awhile.  And
he also says that after you quit, if symptoms start returning then you are not
done.  Or take a 6 month break, and then try a few rounds of chelation again,
and see if you get any symptoms from a round.  The more metals you remove, the
better.------Jackie
>
>
> >
> > --
> > Alexis
> >
>

--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "little_rainbows"
<little_rainbows@...> wrote:
>
> This year I've been slowly having my amalgams replaced.  It has been awful,
> to say the least, and my conditions have worsened considerably even though
> they've been removed by a holistic dentist using the IAOMT protocol.
> My last quadrant will be done 12/2.  To start I have purchased 6 bottles of
> 25 mg DMSA from VRP.  I have no remembrance of how to prepare it and I am
> not finding specific enough instructions through the search.  I need the
> dummies version as my ability to think has been severely impaired.
> If someone can please tell me step-by-step how to prepare these for the
> first time, I would greatly appreciate it!

------I think Linda has saved some good posts in the Links section under members
posts, so look there.  Otherwise, we usually suggest starting with 12.5mg, so
you will need to split the caps.  You can buy empty capsules from a HFS or
online vendors.  Then open a capsule onto a piece of paper, use a knife to split
it in half, just eyeball as close as you can, then push one pile onto a small
piece of paper with a crease down the middle, and use that to dump it into the
empty capsule.  If you want, you can add some Vit C powder to fill the capsule
more full, but it is not necessary.-------Jackie



> Also if someone can tell me more about things I can do to make the last
> removal more safe?  All I know about is IV Vit C and that didn't do much for
> me.  I have heard mentions of activated charcoal, but have no idea how to
> use it.  I would appreciate any tips.

------My dentist gave me one activated charcoal capsule right before each
procedure, and also right after.  And then he gave me 1 gram capsules of Vit C,
and said to take 1 about every hour, after each removal.  Another thing that
might help is selenium, if you're not taking that yet.  It helps to "passivate"
free mercury, so it can help you feel better.

Otherwise, you mention feeling aweful and worse since starting removals.  You
don't elaborate on what your symptoms are, but it's very possible that you have
adrenal, thyroid, and/or maybe other hormone problems, which are so common
amongst us.  Amalgam removal is stress to the body, and the adrenals have to
deal with all forms of stress.  So is they are already fatigued or struggling,
then amalgam removal can really be hard on them.  So do some reading in the
Links section about adrenals and thyroid, and maybe consider having saliva
testing done.  For myself, I think the hair test and saliva testing has been the
most informative testing I have done.

I know its alot to learn at first, but keep reading and asking questions, so we
can help you figure it out, ok?  And good luck on your last
removals!------Jackie




> Thank you so much,
> Kristin
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I don't know why molybdenum would bring the symptom on, but my guess is that
replacement hormone would relieve it.

Both myself and my daughter had hair loss when stressed (adrenal related, that
subsided when the stress stopped, somehow tied to the hypothyroidism)

Linda

--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "leahbeth85" <leelah_beth@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Linda,
>
> Yes, I have other symptoms of hypothyroidism. I currently waiting for some
blood test results from my doctor... But in the past, I've had TSH and free t4
tested, and it looks like I have hypothyroidism. I'm not on treatment for it.
>
> I'm aware that hypoT can cause hair loss. But if it's due to hypoT, why would
molybdenum trigger it? (Does molybdenum affect the thyroid somehow?) My hair
loss is definitely due to, or triggered by, the molybdenum.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "lindajaytee" <lindajaytee@>
wrote:
> >
> > do you have other symptoms of hypothyroidism?  Have you had tests for free
T3 and free T4?
> >
> > Linda
>

Personally, I don't feel comfortable giving advice on such a delicate and
extremely important situation.  I believe Linda has some posts by Andy saved in
our Links section, under Andy posts 2008, and there should be some about
pregnancy, etc.  Otherwise, I would suggest that you send Andy a private email
with this post number, and ask him to respond.

Also, you could try the Autism-Mercury group, as there are alot of parents
there, that may have had a similar situation.

Good luck and congratulations!-------Jackie



--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "Sean D" <seandepue@...> wrote:
>
> Not sure why I got no responses.
> Does anyone have any idea where else online to find this info?
>
>
>
>
> --- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "Sean D" <seandepue@> wrote:
> >
> > My fiancee just found out she is pregnant.
> > She has had 4-6 amalgams replaced over last spring and summer.
> > We were planning on waiting to have children until after the wedding well
into next year ( when I knew it would be safer) - but things happen.
> >
> > I am chelating and am worried about mercury exposure to our baby.
> >
> > Can my fiancee take anything that would provide protection?
> >
> > Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated - Sean
> >
>

--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, Alexis Miller
<alexis.atrekkie22@...> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> 2009/11/10 Lake Baldwin <lakebaldwin@...>:
> > In several Places In Cutler's AI and in places in the history of the various
message boards the importance of taking breaks in Chelation is emphasized. The
advice seems generally to be that you should take breaks at least as long as the
chelation period, or up to several times as long.
>
> * ive heard it can be done at weekends 3 days on 4 days off and this
> works for many members here.

-------Yes, many do 3 on/4 off, as it works into a weekly routine, often done
over the weekend.  And 3 days on is the minimum recommended by Andy, but he has
always said that longer rounds are ok, if you tolerate them.----Jackie

http://onibasu.com/wiki/Cutler_protocol#Length_of_rounds


> >
> > I am having problems going off the chelation agents. My symptoms, Peripheral
nerve pain and muscle weakness are seriously aggrevated to a point much worse
than before I started the chelation.
>
> * What dosage are you on? What supplements are you taking? How long
> since you began chelation? You could be in the stall period where your
> symptoms get worse for a few months then level off. It is due to the
> mercury pooling in your system and happens approximately 8-10 months
> post 1st cycle.

------I hate to nit-pick, but the stall period starts a few months, roughly 6
months, post amalgam removal, or when last exposure ends, so amalgam removal is
the starting point for most of us.  Some people start chelating right away, and
others don't, but this stall or dumping period happens regardless if you are
chelating or not.  And it can last for many months, and of course all of this
can vary somewhat from person to person.  Study the graph on page 52 of AI, and
also read about it at the wiki.------Jackie

http://onibasu.com/wiki/Cutler_protocol#Stall_period



>
> Try as I might, after 48 - 60 hours of not taking the chelation
> agents, ( i have moved from ALA alone to DMSA + ALA to DMSA alone to
> DMPS alone, at steadily decreasing dosages to try to find a result I
> can tolerate ) each time I go off the agent, my symptoms get so much
> worse that I have to restart before the recommended pause. I feel like
> I have fallen into a loop from which I cannot exit, despite my blood
> (25 mcg/l to not detected) and urine levels (14mcg/day to 6) having
> fallen a lot over the three month's I have been at this.

------I'm glad Linda responded, as I do know that some people feel so much
better on round and so much worse off round, that they do need to do continuous
chelation.  Julie Anderson does have some people try this with DMPS, and that's
what Linda did too.  I have done some long rounds on DMPS myself.  So as long as
you tolerate continuous chelation and you have DMPS, I would just stay on it for
awhile.  We each have to do what works best for us.--------Jackie



>
> * ive read about some parents of autistics doing a several days long
> round to get the lead out with DMSA. I dont think its part of the AC
> protocol though?

--------No, longer rounds are ok on the AC protocol, if you tolerate them. 
Actually, longer is better, if you tolerate them.  As long as you are dosing
based on the half-life, that is the core basis of the Cutler protocol, and he
says a minimum of 3 days on round, then you are following his protocol.  The
timing of the dosages is the most critical part of his protocol.

Doing longer rounds is better in the sense that you will have fewer end of round
redistribution events, per number of days chelating.  For example, if you
chelate for 6 days straight, you will have one redistribution event at the end
of that round, whereas, if you chelated for two 3-day rounds, you would have two
redistribution events per the same number of chelation days (6).

Now, why doesn't everyone just do longer rounds or chelate continuously?  For
many, they just can't keep up with the broken sleep, or start feeling worse and
worse on round, or need to do it over the weekend, etc.  I myself have done some
longer rounds, but I usually get to the point where I feel like I need to take a
break.

So again, do some reading at the link above for onibasu, and longer rounds are
ok if you tolerate them.-------Jackie



> >
> > What are the downsides to short pauses? Are there implications for Kidney
issues? Andy I think refers to needing to give the body a break, and pausing
because, it's been done that way and worked, and not to conduct a human drug
trial without evidence that it's likely to work, but is there any documented
concern here? Does anyone have experience with chelating with only short pauses?

-------As long as you have DMPS and feel that much better on round and so bad
off round, I would suggest you just try continuous chelation with DMPS only for
a long while, and see how you do.  Since DMPS is Rx only, what does your
prescribing doctor say about this?  If it's Julie Anderson, I think in your case
she would suggest continuous chelation, or at least a trial of it.  But of
course, I shouldn't speak for her.

Again, in a case like yours, it sounds like continuous chelation is probably the
way to go, but just realize that for some people, they just wouldn't tolerate
this.  I have no problem doing longer rounds, but I do know that some people who
do fine on 3 day rounds, have tried 4 day rounds, and felt terrible.  And I
agree with Linda, which comes from Andy, is that the breaks are necessary to
allow time for healing, and to rebalance minerals, etc.-------Jackie



>
> --
> Alexis
>

Not sure why I got no responses.
Does anyone have any idea where else online to find this info?




--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "Sean D" <seandepue@...> wrote:
>
> My fiancee just found out she is pregnant.
> She has had 4-6 amalgams replaced over last spring and summer.
> We were planning on waiting to have children until after the wedding well into
next year ( when I knew it would be safer) - but things happen.
>
> I am chelating and am worried about mercury exposure to our baby.
>
> Can my fiancee take anything that would provide protection?
>
> Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated - Sean
>