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RE: [frequent-dose-chelation] Re: water fasting and chelation?


>-----Original Message-----
>From: tk200192071 [mailto:tk200192071@...]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:55 PM
>To: frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [frequent-dose-chelation] Re: water fasting and chelation?
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>Hi Suze,
> Just my opinion but I would not fast with only water or any other
>way while chelating. Chelation is very hard on your body and you
>need all the nutrients, vitamins, antioxidents, minerals etc you can
>get during and after. I would wait for a time when you are going to
>take a break from chelation especially with this the first addition
>of DMSA. Fasting itself with only water for two weeks I would think
>would be challenge enough. Personally as a Hg toxic individual I
>could not fast like that for 2 weeks without making myself much worse
>or sick [but that's me].
>
>Fasting does not release Hg that I am aware of, you need a chelator.

Well fasting causes fat cells to be used for energy, and in the process the
toxins stored in them get released. Hg (maybe not all forms?) is fat-soluble
and thus is stored in fat cells, to my understanding. Therefore it will be
released during a water fast. Again, that is my understanding, but I could
be wrong. And just for clarification, I've already done 3 rounds of *DMSA*
but am on my first round of using *ALA* with the DMSA. Tonight marks my
third day of water fasting and second of chelating. I don't have any major
symptoms, just a very mild headache now and then.

THanks for your feedback. If I get really bad symptoms I'll probably stop
chelating till the fast is over. I'm pretty sure I can do at least a week,
Water fasting does bring on symptoms all by itself, but hopefully nothing
too severe in the next week or two!



Suze Fisher
Lapdog Design, Inc.
Web Design & Development
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Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine
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TK, Does Andy recommend avoiding fish after amalgam removal? I am wondering if the mercury in some fish could move to the brain if people are eating it at the...
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I recommend not eating any fish, and not taking any supplements made from fish, or shellfish. No chlorella according to ANdy. Starting with the DMSA for a few...
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Hi Linda, Not to be evasive but this is where you need to do some research on your own as I can not possibly go over all the possible symptoms here or remember...
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Sorry TK I couldn't figure out what MP stands for. I think I got it now. mercury poisoning. Sometimes my thinker works fairly slow... tick, tick tick ... ...
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Not a problem, brain fog is one of the symptoms of Hg toxicity. TK ... research...
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HI Linda, At the moment I am still getting better. I am able to work again and so at this moment I am taking a breather from chelating. I am gathering...
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Did a google search on this and found no information so providing some information or a link would help. TK ... anybody now ... experiences......
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TK, I MISPELLED IT... IT IS WOBENZYME. I do not have a particular site that I am referring to, also, I am moving today and abut to break down the computer, so...
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... eaten. ... if ... be ... body ... help remove the body burden. DMSA, DMPS and ALA affect people differently so you may not feel the same effects from...
tk200192071
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Oct 28, 2004
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Does anyone know if it's OK to chelate while water fasting? I'm on day three of a water fast and started chelating with ALA and DMSA yesterday. I was wondering...
Suze Fisher
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Nov 3, 2004
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Hi Suze, Just my opinion but I would not fast with only water or any other way while chelating. Chelation is very hard on your body and you need all the...
tk200192071
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Nov 3, 2004
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... Well fasting causes fat cells to be used for energy, and in the process the toxins stored in them get released. Hg (maybe not all forms?) is fat-soluble ...
Suze Fisher
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Nov 4, 2004
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... process the ... fat-soluble ... not get confused Heavy metals of any kind including Hg are not water or fat soluable [able to be disolved by fat or water]....
tk200192071
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Nov 4, 2004
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... OK, I think you are right about the solubility issue. I was thinking that Hg is stored in fat cells (at least that's what I'd read in sevaral places ...
Suze Fisher
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Nov 4, 2004
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BTW, I only had a mild headache or two on the second day of my fast, which was the first day of chelation. I also had a few minor anxiety attacks and increased...
Suze Fisher
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Hi Suze, I have found when you use too many modalities at the same time [water fast - chelation] it makes it very hard to tell what is causing what. In general...
tk200192071
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Nov 4, 2004
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... Initially 40 mgs DMSA/100 mgs ALA. Then I ran out of the 40 mgs DMSA caps, and moved up to 60 mgs DMSA/100 mgs ALA. It may not be the ideal ratio, but ...
Suze Fisher
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Nov 5, 2004
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Hi Suze, That is the full amount of ALA to start with and if you are not getting a lot of side effects from this much and the DMSA then you are doing well and...
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Nov 5, 2004
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No one does a water fast very frequently, so why do it at the same time as chelation? Why take the risk? Just do your water fast, recover for a few days then...
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