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RE: [frequent-dose-chelation] Re: Chelation before removal of amalgams?


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Delano Eaton [mailto:mushimushi@...]
>Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 8:10 PM
>To: frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [frequent-dose-chelation] Re: Chelation before removal of
>amalgams?
>

>> However, I still haven't gotten any concrete answers as to HOW chelators
>> could pull mercury from amalgams. I'd really love a citation, an
>explanation
>> or something. I haven't been able to find anything yet. Maybe
>someone here
>> can help?
>
>---Maybe so. I know Andy keeps telling me to ask on this site. I never
>thought to question that. I guess it's your sientific nature. Did you
>ask Andy?---

Yes, on the Autism-Mercury list. He didn't respond. Of course I don't expect
him to respond to every post. But like you, I want to know HOW chelating
with amalgams present draws mercury from the amalgams. It's such a widely
repeated warning and I still don't know exactly what it's based on.

>
>---I know you have an appointment coming up. When is it?

June 23rd.


You are a lot
>further along than I am. We put our house on the market today so we
>can afford to do this. We are going to buy an RV so we can travel to
>the dentist of my choice. Well, that's not the only reason we are
>selling, but it is one of the reasons. Not a matter of *if* I am doing
>it anymore---

Good for you!


>
>> >Can some ppl have mercury fillings and just not be sensitive to it?
>>
>> No. Mercury is a poison to everyone. However, susceptibility varies
>widely.
>> Some folks are much better excretors than others for example.
>Autistic kids
>> tend to be bad excretors, which is why their hair tests tend to come
>up very
>> low in mercury compared to typical kids.
>
>---What you are saying here, sounds like a play on words to me. I
>agree that mercury is a poison to everyone.---

Then I didn't understand your question. How can anyone not be sensitive to a
poison?


>
>
> The second one seems a
>> little bizarre to me - it doesn't jump out of your mouth and into
>someone
>> elses :-D
>
>Doesn't it?. Mercury escapes from the filling in the form of vapor. Do
>we know that it stays in own body and does not go out of the body and
>affect others in a closed room?

The vapor escapes when the filling is rubbed or exposed to hot liquid. AFAIK
it doesn't just vaporize without such stimulation. I suppose if you rub it,
brush your teeth, or drink a hot liquid with your mouth open (hard to drink
that way though ;-) maybe a little could escape into the air. But it seems
unlikely that enough would do so and then not get quickly diluted by air
enough to hurt someone in the room with you. I don't know this for sure, it
just seems unlikely to me.


>
>
>I didn't quite get whether you had them all out.
> How long have you had the head tremor
> and digestive problems?
>
>---I am 63 so I have had these fillings, root canals, composite
>fillings, gold and silver, bridge for a long time. I have had them
>redone several times in fact by an ADA dentist. I probably have the
>mercury in my brain. Oh yeah, I know that tremors and digestion
>problems are a symptom of mercury toxcidity. But which came first and
>which should be corrected first? My ND says to correct the digestion
>problem first and my tremors would stop. Tremors are also a symptom of
>digestion problems. I want to do a liver/gallbladder cleanse but need
>to detox mercury first. I have had the tremors since Dec 1996. I guess
>the digestions problems started about the same time. As long as I eat
>just the few things that I can eat, I am alright. I like the FO/CC
>diet (Johanna Budwig) as I feel pretty sure my body is getting the
>omega 3 and the protein but I am not sure about the high sulfur
>protein. I have read conflicting things about eating high sulfur
>protein when you have mercury toxiciity.---


Yes, I'm not totally clear on that issue either. But apparently many of the
thiols in sulfur foods/supps can mobilize mercury but not chelate it, so you
end up with redistribution. I think this is why Andy told me not to let the
DO put glutathione in my Vit. C IV drip the day of my removals.


Suze Fisher
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This is not my day, because I think I just posted the subject alone again...My Apologies! On another list for another subject ppl are talking about detoxing to...
Delano Eaton
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Jun 13, 2004
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... Del, if you're referring to the discussions on native-nutrition about this, I mentioned several times that amalgams should be removed before chelating. ...
Suze Fisher
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Jun 13, 2004
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... about this, ... chelating. ... what I knew which is: there is *no* reason to ever chelate until all amalgams are removed. I have the books and I've read...
Delano Eaton
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Jun 14, 2004
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... Yes, on the Autism-Mercury list. He didn't respond. Of course I don't expect him to respond to every post. But like you, I want to know HOW chelating with...
Suze Fisher
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Jun 14, 2004
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... chelators ... don't expect ... Autism-Mercury list. I think they are trying to keep that list for autism only. It's a good question. Have you e-mailed him...
Delano Eaton
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Jun 14, 2004
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... Well, I think the answer is really simple. Whilst one has amalgam fillings still, then there is an ongoing exposure to mercury; if attempting to chelate...
Peter R Fife
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Jun 14, 2004
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That's a very good point about how the chelator pulls mercury from amalgams. I spoke to a neurologist who claimed that my high score for mercury poisoning was...
ElspethGuyan
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Jun 15, 2004
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I still haven't gotten any concrete answers as to HOW ... like to understand it.--- ... You can detox at any time which includes the above cleanse. ... I have...
Delano Eaton
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Jun 16, 2004
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... By creating a greater thermodynamic driving force for it to go into solution, by dissolving off the passivating oxide layer, by complexing the surface...
andrewhallcutler
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Jun 16, 2004
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Would this be the same for amalgam that was left under the composite when it was replaced? I would think that there is less of a chance of fluid getting to...
Jewett, Diane C
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Jun 16, 2004
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My mercury issues relate to this. I have a few traces remaining from inadequate removal and probable amalgam under 2 crowns. I'd like to reduce my body burden...
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Jun 17, 2004
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Hi, I posed these questions twice to the Autism-Mercury list but didn't get any replies - can anyone here address either of these issues? My DDI hair test...
Suze Fisher
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Jun 20, 2004
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what supplements are yout aking? ... get any ... understand. ... indicate that my ... because I'm ... cause ... -George ... Vanderbilt...
andrew
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... Multi vit/mineral calcium/magnesium cod liver oil grape seed extract milk thistle iodine vit E Primal Defense Tocotrienols/co-q10 Suze Fisher Lapdog...
Suze Fisher
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Jun 27, 2004
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thats too broad. brands, forms and amounts or you will just go in circles. ... abnormalities - ... cause ... -George ... Vanderbilt...
andrew
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... Thanks Andrew, I appreciate your willingness to help, but I'm not looking to change my current basic supplement regimen :-) Since starting it several of my...
Suze Fisher
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It seems that for most minerals, the results are pretty straightforward-- low levels often signify low body stores, high levels of most elements usually...
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Jun 25, 2004
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... Exceptions ... Pricisely what i was thinking. I believe I am still mercury ... Did they previously? Are you using Andy's protocol? ... I already am :-( ......
Suze Fisher
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... The first hair test I did was Body Balance from Great Smokies Lab. This was after I had only one of my amalagams replaced with a composite crown 3 months...
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Hi, my hair test was totally negative.. my urine tests were totally postitive... so were the faecal mercury by Drs. Data. Labs.. note both these were done...
Jane White
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... mineral levels also to [try] and get a more through idea of what is happening. It can be hard. TK ... by Drs. ... DMSA ... makes this ... ....
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Can anyone help with info on how to rid the body of uranium? I posted this question a few days ago to the Autism-Mercury list, but got no response. I got my...
Suze Fisher
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Have you looked at Modifilan... www.modifilan.com I think is the website.. jane ... From: "Suze Fisher" <s.fisher22@...> To:...
Jane White
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... Thanks Jane :-) I'd looked at this product when I was looking for mercury detox products, but it didn't occur to me that it might chelate uranium. It ...
Suze Fisher
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... A salt & soda bath supposdedly counters the negative effects of radiation exposure: http://www.ourlittleplace.com/detox.html Rob....
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... Thanks for the link Rob. The problem is that the *chemical* toxicity of uranium is far greater than the radiological toxicity, from what I've read. So I...
Suze Fisher
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... I do not know how to get rid of uranium. Are the toxic effects related to it breaking down, as it does in the ground, and releasing radon? I ask because...
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... I don't know. ... Thanks for the idea. I've actually been taking activated charcoal the past few days since I had my first quadrant of amalgams removed. ...
Suze Fisher
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Supplementary iron reduces uranium levels fairly quickly. Andy . . . . . . ....
andrewhallcutler
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Why would a pc monitor give you uranium exposure? I would guess that any chelator that works on lead , I think Dmsa, dmps, edta, should work on Uranium which...
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