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Re: [frequent-dose-chelation] Hydrocortisone and long term use


On Aug 14, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Dean Network wrote:

> My friend has developed classic adrenal issuffiency post amalgam
> removal
> that she is trying to address prior to chelating. All her doctors want
> to do
> is put her on anti-depressants and will not help her or believe it is
> amalgam related.

>>>Typical.....sheesh
>
> She has started a 5 day Hydrocortisone taper in desperation (to help
> the
> adrenals as we can't get hold of prednisilone)

>>>>Tapers are hard on the adrenals. Re-read the section in Andy's book
again. Tapers are really meant for something else.
I will send you source for prednisolone offline. Prednisolone is hard
on liver, but can be a lot more effective for the adrenal
insufficiency, in my experience, and that of some others I have been in
communication with.
Myself, I needed to work with Prednisolone for awhile, and then later
on, I dropped down to hydrocortisone, when I had had enough improvement
to do so.

> and she felt great on day 4
> of the taper for the FIRST time in months - dose was 20mg at 8am and
> 10mg at
> noon.
> Today she feels worse than in ages on the lower 10mg and 5 mg and she
> wants
> to know if she can go back up to the 20mg and 10mg dose on a taper,
> and for
> how long is it safe to stay there?

>>>>She could go back on 20 mg no problem. 20 mg is a physiologic dose.
Even 30 mg can be safe for a lot of folks but not everybody and not
always, so the general 20 mg rule has been popular.

>>>>Most people find it works best to take (5) mg 4 times a day, every
4 hours, starting early in the morning when the body naturally kicks
out its own cortisol. Do NOT do the tapers. Take it EVERY DAY.

>
> She also shows symptoms of low aldosterone levels - low sodium, low
> blood
> pressure, dizziness, salt craving and palpitations -

Q - Palpitations can be from low aldosterone??????? I didn't know
that...I have that problem......
> as well as
> hyperthyroid. She is all out of money for lab tests and all out of
> support
> from doctors.

>>>I know the feeling exactly. I will contact you offline.

> She instinctively knows that the 20mg and 10mg dose of
> Hydrocortisone will help, but questions how long she can stay on it?

>>>>I believe, pretty much until she gets better.

> I would assume that Isocort (desiccated adrenal) may be more
> beneficial for
> her since it contains all the adrenal corticosteroids, including
> aldosterone, but we can't get it here in South Africa.

>>>>Some do very well on Isocort, For me it was not nearly effective
enough in the beginning. Not even close. 1 1/2 years down the road for
me, and I am thinking of switching to it. I was actually finally off
the steroids for a little while, but made some thyroid modifications,
and decided to get on 10 mg hydrocortisone.

> Is that correct that
> it contains all the steroids?

>>>>Not certain if it contains "all".... but it does contain several

> She is intolerant of Licorice, DHEA,
> pregnenolone and ginseng. Meaning she feels terrible if she takes it.

>>>>>Has she tried them individually, one at a time?
> And
> symptoms do not suggest she is progesterone deficient - feels sexual
> and
> sexy and menstrually sound. She suspects she is Liver fast phase 1

>>>>>Take niacinamide for fast phase I.

> and is
> sulphur intolerant and sulfite allergic and responds well to Epsom
> salts
> baths.
>
>
She has done one round of DMSA at 12.5mg for 3 days about a week before
the
taper and was no worse nor better, but since she has been so ill with
the
adrenals for months now she is desperate to get them under control
before
going further.

>>>>Point well taken, but if it were me, I would continue on with the
low doses of chelation, because that is what is getting at the source
of the problem.
>
> Can anyone help?

>>>As before, I know the feeling and I will contact you offline.
~Inga


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> Dean
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Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:04 pm

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My friend has developed classic adrenal issuffiency post amalgam removal that she is trying to address prior to chelating. All her doctors want to do is put...
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... again. Tapers are really meant for something else. I will send you source for prednisolone offline. Prednisolone is hard on liver, but can be a lot more...
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