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Re: [fqtoxicity] Re: the FDA is at it again.

Thanks from the bottom of my heart - this site has been a godsend of hope and
support and info




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From: "Fqresearch@..." <Fqresearch@...>
To: fqtoxicity@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 10:23:20 PM
Subject: Re: [fqtoxicity] Re: the FDA is at it again.





Most, if not all, of those documents are on my server. I have copies of
the originals. So they are not lost to us even if the FDA were to delete
them completely. The problem is that the head honchos over at wikipedia
frown upon me linking back to my site. They seem to think that it is a form
of self promotion. So what I have to do now is check each and every
reference in those articles that link to the FDA site and then update them to
these new addresses. Which is going to be a royal pain in .... but it can be
done. It will take weeks to do as I am doing so many things at once. So I
have to fit that in when I can.

It is a constant hassle at wikipedia as I have to monitor all of those
articles on a daily basis and undo any changes that are vandalism, etc. Those
edits that are legit, but I disagree with, I have to discuss with the
editor making such changes and see if I can convince them to see things from my
point of view. As such the articles are in a constant state of flux and I
have to work my butt off to stop people from undoing all that work. But if
I can support my position with citations then I win these arguments. When
the links to my references disappear then you know what hits the fan. So
I end up like a one legged cat in a room full of rocking chairs.

Most of the time when I am short tempered here on the forum it is usually
when I am battling the medical community over at wikipedia. But it is
worth the effort as the articles have the greatest impact possible as they are
linked to hundreds of thousands of medical sites. So the word is getting
out to those that matter, and of course those who are now threatened by this
are fighting back tooth and nail. But there is nobody that I am not
willing to go toe to toe with to keep these articles exactly as I have written
them. But at times I do get a bit punch drunk from all the hits I have to
endure to make this happen. If that is what it takes then that is exactly
what I will do.

Somebody, somewhere has to go to bat for you guys and gals, and for the
moment it is I in the batter's box.

capt' dave


In a message dated 7/2/2009 4:38:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
newslists@suddenlin k.net writes:

Hi Dave - Thanks for your time and efforts in keeping these important
links "alive". I have no idea how long it will take you to update hundreds of
references - all I can say is thank you. (and I'd love to add some swear
words about the FDA, but won't write them here, I'll just continue muttering
them to myself as I type.)

Sue

--- In fqtoxicity@yahoogro ups.com, "davidtfull" <Fqresearch@ ...> wrote:
>
> The FDA has changed the locations for every document used as a reference
within the wikipedia articles that was linked by to the FDA site. Thereby
invalidating hundreds of references. I now have to go back and change
each and every one of these references to reflect these new locations
manually. I rather doubt that this was routine housekeeping on their part as
only
the articles that related to the quinolone class were moved recently.
>
> Looks like they are engaging in damage control once again. They cannot
delete these articles as that would be destruction of evidence due to the
ongoing litigation. But nothing would prevent them from moving them and
invalidating all of the links found on the Internet that makes reference to
them.
>
> I've never been one for conspiracy theories regarding these drugs but I
am seriously reconsidering that view now. Far too much is going on
recently for all of this to be coincidence. Too much information has disappeared
from the Internet, too many sites have shut down, and now this recent
action by the FDA who for the most part has failed to update thier site with
anything relevant for years. Now all of a sudden they are archiving anything
that has to do with the quinolones?
>
> capt' dave
>

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Sounds feasible to me. Leslea ________________________________ From: Heidi <alces54@...> To: fqtoxicity@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009...
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Hi Dave - Thanks for your time and efforts in keeping these important links "alive". I have no idea how long it will take you to update hundreds of references...
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Beginning to seem quite obvious now, isn't it?? ~Shells~ ... I've never been one for conspiracy theories regarding these drugs but I am seriously reconsidering...
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Most, if not all, of those documents are on my server. I have copies of the originals. So they are not lost to us even if the FDA were to delete them...
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Thank you Dave!!! ________________________________ From: "Fqresearch@..." <Fqresearch@...> To: fqtoxicity@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009...
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Hope this stays there for a while, I copied that text from your site in the contraindications section a few weeks ago...... "The fluoroquinolone drugs are the...
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