No NPD here. In fact I think I am the one the article was telling to
RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!!

I think there were 3 NPDs in my family. Mother, oldEST brother, and
sister'The Demon Queen' ... I dubbed her that because 'Demons' feed
off the pain & suffering of others and she made an art form out of
causing me pain & suffering, so much so that I rarely call her by her
given name, and ohhh how pissed she was when she found out that that
is the only way I refer to her anymore. None of our friends see that
the faces these 3 put out there are just facades; Mother, put on the
suffering altruisticly for her children face; oldEST brother put on
the intellectual snob, pompous ass face; Demon Queen put on the
social butterfly, party girl face ... and everyone we knew never
looked beyond what seemed to be.

Then there were father, oldER brother & myself ... Aspies & BPDs
undeniably. Our problems arose out of feeling TOO MUCH, which of
course allowed the other 3 to totally screw with our lives whenever
they wanted to.

Then there is little brother who somehow made it through this three
ring circus and come out normal. Don't know how, but he did.

Dad was died in 1980 before names were put to alot of these disorders
were brought out of the closet (so to speak) so I don't know if he
ever realized that things weren't right inside of him. OldER brother
died in '97, he had actually started going to group therapy (for
depression I think) and he didn't talk much about it, but I do know
that he had started to realize that things weren't right inside I
just don't know if he had ever actually been offically diagnosed with
any of these disorders. Myself, I have only recently (within the last
5 years) been diagnosed with a crap load of disorders and as much as
I hate 'labels' being put on me those labels have helped because I am
still here and learning how to deal with it all.

So, for me at least, looking at my family dynamics, NPD and AS seem
to be polar opposites.

kathy
redwood city, ca


--- In for-and-by-autistics@yahoogroups.com, "Larry D. Lyons"
<larryd552002@...> wrote:
>
> I wonder if anyone in this group who has Asperger's Syndrome might
> also fit the criterea for Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
>
> http://www.minddisorders.com/Kau-Nu/Narcissistic-personality-
> disorder.html
>
> Yours Truly certainly does! In fact, I'm beginning to wonder what
the
> difference is. I suspect it has to do with etiology. In NPD the
> problem derives from cold parents, whereas in Asperger's Syndrome
the
> condition arises from infantile trauma for which the parents aren't
to
> blame, as in premature birth, cesarean birth, severe illness, etc.
In
> either instance, the child would be distrustful of all external
> reality, and especially the mother who is the prototype of all
> external reality. So, I imagine the resulting personality
disorder,
> be it NPD or AS, would be nearly indistinguishable.
>
>
> Larry
>