(Nora)

I would have appreciated a calm parent to a raving one. I have no idea why Spock
wrote that, perhaps for NTs that works but not for me.

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(Larry)
I hope you don't get me wrong about this. Spock was against spanking. He was
addressing parents who spank their children as a sort of tradition. He knew he
couldn't stop the spanking, so he proposed the best way to do it. Always do it
with a display of anger.

And you are right about it probably being advice to an NT. I too remember going
berserk and throwing tantrums. If I was hit during a trantrum I would have
probably have gone crazy. It didn't matter whether the clobberer was calm or
enraged.

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(Nora)

Ask my grown daughter about apologizing for hitting and yelling. It is
disingenuous to do so. the child knows it and i know it.

Just my experience from both sides of the question.
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(Larry)
LOL! OK. You got me there. But what are you going to do? I remember when I
was little my mother would get infuriated with me and say cruel things to me.
It was a terrible feeling. The only thing that made it feel better was when she
apologized. If I was infuriated at her, though, and didn't want to make nice, I
would WANT her apology to be disingenuous and believe that no matter what. I
would still feel bad if she didn't apologize though.


Larry