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Re: [for-and-by-autistics] Re: Once more Freud is validated


--- Perla <northernstar7112@...> wrote:

> I need to get one thing straight: there is no such
> thing as a
> refrigerator mom and as much as I agree with you, I
> will not
> tolerate you saying this. yes, Freud did formulate
> his theory of the
> refrigerator mom, but even Freud was a MAN who knew
> nothing about
> women and surely as nothing about female autistics.
>

It was Kanner who coined the term "refrigerator mom."
I was just being silly as well as being pissed off.
Those women have been attacking me personally. The
mothers are so uptight they ASSUME that anyone who
mentions trauma is backing some provisional hypothesis
that Bettelheim tossed out. They are so uptight about
it, it makes you suspect they have guilty consciences.
The lady doth protest too much methinks.

Anyway, Kanner noticed that many mothers of autistic
children are cold. It was a simple observation.
There was no formal theory proposed for this, much
less tested, by anyone. And that includes Bettelheim.


See if I'm wrong. Go out there into the fray and see
what happens if you mention neglect--or even simple
trauma. They will want to kill you.

Yours,
Larry



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Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:15 am

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As usual, though, the researchers who studied the effect of 9/11 on school children apparently never bothered to read Freud's and Breuer's book "On Hysteria"...
Larry D. Lyons
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Feb 7, 2008
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Excellent article Larry! Study Finds Prior Trauma Raised Children's 9/11 Risk By BENEDICT CAREY Published: February 5, 2008 Preschoolers who witnessed the...
Perla
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... Hi Perla: I sure hope the findings inspire more study, but you may have noticed that the researches tried to reduce everything to neuronal activity. As...
larry Lyons
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Feb 8, 2008
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Maybe then they will STOP trying to cure us!!!!!!! Star ... _____________________________________________________________________ ... ...
Perla
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Feb 8, 2008
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... Hi Star. Hopefully they will eventually realize they can't cure a human of his personality. However, I sure would like to get cured of my damned shyness....
larry Lyons
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Feb 9, 2008
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I need to get one thing straight: there is no such thing as a refrigerator mom and as much as I agree with you, I will not tolerate you saying this. yes, Freud...
Perla
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Feb 9, 2008
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... It was Kanner who coined the term "refrigerator mom." I was just being silly as well as being pissed off. Those women have been attacking me personally....
larry Lyons
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Feb 10, 2008
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Seeing from my reaction and I am not even a mom... yes! I agree that these women are very angry. Because they are fighting against many fronts with no...
Perla
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Feb 11, 2008
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... You're right that the refrigerator moms are probably autistic. That was Kanner's assumption. Strangely, if Kanner was right, that doesn't necessarily...
larry Lyons
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Feb 11, 2008
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... Whoa! Hold on here. You just wrote a whole explanation as to why mothers of autistic children are cold. It was YOUR hypothesis, not mine, that cold ...
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