I need to get one thing straight: there is no such thing as a
refrigerator mom and as much as I agree with you, I will not
tolerate you saying this. yes, Freud did formulate his theory of the
refrigerator mom, but even Freud was a MAN who knew nothing about
women and surely as nothing about female autistics.

Now if there is a trauma to be connected with childhood is the
trauma of birth. And if you ask how come and we are not all
autistics as we ahave have all gone through such a major trauma, one
way or another and in different severity, let me tell you that the
issue is not as simple.

Women who have autism have been living in societies shadow because
even when men began getting diagnosed it was still 1 in 4 or 5 that
it was a female and in the very beginning when autism was discovered
it was just 1 in 8 that it was a female.

This means that there were many autistic women out there fighting on
their own against a society that was against them for being autistic
AND for being a woman. These women suffered through their lives an
increased amount of stress especially if yoi add to the formula the
fact that autistics get along with autistics and this menas that
these women had probably married and had children with an autistic
male.

Thus adding one more burden in the life of the autistic female that
of emotional isolation mad coldness. Now if these women end up
becoming refrigerators then let me tell you that it was autism plus
society plus an emotional withdrawn husband (who could get violent
through his meltdowns and beat the shit out of these women). These
women were emotionally starved and Freud wrapped up in his own
autistic brain never realized that a woman can ONLY produce love if
she is nurished with love, women are not like cows that produce LOVE
in infinite amounts for as long as we are fed!!!

These women went througfh a great deal of emotional starvation and
stress, the body of such women began producing additional levels of
male hormones because of this constant exposure to stress. This is a
natural reaction of the human body either male or female and these
women now had to also deal with elevated levels of adrenaline and
testosterone, these levated levels can as result the lowering of
their empathic ability, turning them as Freud thought to
refrigerator moms.

These women were victims not aggresors, if their kids were deprived
of love it is because these women were even more deprived than their
kids were of any kind of affection. They were expected to be good
wives, good mothers, good housekeepers and were never paid, never
given a reward for their hard lives.

The origin of autism is the way the females were deprived from love
because the elevated levels of testostrone in their bodies caused
the fetus while they were pregnant to have an elevated level of
testosterone in their bodies. The elevated level of testosterone
combined with a difficult and traumatic birth had the effect that
ended up in an autistic brain. At teh same time, an already
traumatized woman, throughout her whole life, suffers also a
traumatic child-birthing and ends up with a baby that is not
responsive to her affections and care.

Think about it, these autistic women had no way to escape their ill
fate. A society that was cold towards them, an autistic husband that
was cold and abusive towards them, and children that were not
responsive to their love and affection... I am surprised that these
women did not kill themselves or kill their whole family and then
themselves... some of them did kill their children and husbands, and
these few women who did this where punished by society ten times
more severely than men because after all a woman is expected and
supposed to be affectionale, loving, caring, nurturing. A woman that
defies her very nature is a monster worst than any man becaus emen
are NOT expected to be all these girlie things so if they commit a
crime society has far more understanding and tolerance that with
women.

And here you are Larry, going and telling mothers that it is their
fault being a refrigerator mom, and having autistic kids, and you
expect me to come join you in this ignorance. I do not think so.

Freud lived in an age where women were practically slaves of their
fathers and then husbands, and had no rights or any position in
society unless it was as a daughter, a wife and mother. His
ignorance I can forgive eventhough he was right when he said that
the trauma begins in a very early age...

Your ignorance Larry, I can't forgive. I thought you were an
educated person, but I should have realized that as an autistic male
you would be incapable to even imagine what the life of an autistic
woman is like in a society where she needs to fight and survive as a
autistic as a woman and as a mother...

If there is anything as a refrigerator mother then there are surely
refrigerator husbands and refrigerator fathers and a refrigerator
society above all else.

Star
Yes, you made me mad supporting the refrigerator mom stupidity.

--- In for-and-by-autistics@yahoogroups.com, larry Lyons
<larryd552002@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- Perla <northernstar7112@...> wrote:
>
> > Maybe then they will STOP trying to cure us!!!!!!!
> >
> > Star
> >
> Hi Star. Hopefully they will eventually realize they
> can't cure a human of his personality. However, I
> sure would like to get cured of my damned shyness.
>
> Incidentally; I'm so happy you agree with me in
> general. If you go to the for-and-by-autistics home
> page, you will notice a few questions about autism
> from Yahoo Answers at the bottom of the page. I answer
> these all the time, and I am the only person who
> insists that trauma in infancy is the main determinant
> in autism. Every day I catch hell from the damned
> refrigerator moms who are ready to kill me for
> suggesting a non-neurological-non-vaccine etiology. I
> sure would appreciate it if you came on and answered
> some questions.
>
> Yours,
> Larry
>
>
>
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