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RE: [foodallergyautism] Re: More food allergies... Jenny?s

Jenny,

 

Jake’s zinc supplementation is way higher than that, but he’s been diagnosed with a zinc deficiency before.  Also I’ve understood zinc loading is important before chelating, because chelating can strip the body of it. So I’m hoping its okay, he gets between 90-120 mg. of zinc a day (he’s 95 pounds).  What did you mean by “high AMPA type”?  Are calcium and glutamate considered “excitotoxins”?  Jake’s doc just prescribed a bunch of new vits. and about three or four have calcium, even ionized calcium, so I’m not sure if I want to give these or not and I need to explain stuff to Dr. Cole, but I feel like Jake does need a multi-vit. Somewhere, right now I’m just giving isolated things. And the scd diet.

 

Thanks,

Tara

 


From: foodallergyautism@yahoogroups.com [mailto:foodallergyautism@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Kalis
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:20 AM
To: foodallergyautism@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [foodallergyautism] Re: More food allergies... what to feed her???

 

Hi Wyndie. ok, I got this info off the
holistichealth.com discussion group from old posts
made by Dr. Amy Yasko. Zinc can be like a double edge
sword and if in excess will cause glutamate release.
(Glutamate is a big no no for our kids. It causes
neurological inflammation. Dairy and gluten and MSG
are all very high glutamate. You probably already
know this.) Another bit I found that Dr. Yasko wrote:
"I like to keep zinc
supplementation between 15 and 40. The level of zinc
added is dependent on
the zinc/copper ratio that I see on a urine essential
test. If both zinc
and copper are elevated, I would look to decrease
copper with molybdenum
and EDTA and carnosine.(you may need to go a bit
higher on the molybdenum
for a short while to decrease the copper) Then I would
look to decrease
zinc so that copper is in low range normal (still in
green but to the left
of the line)and zinc is in the green to the right of
the line."
And here's another:
"I would also look closely at any calcium he may be
taking. Read labels and
see if calcium or glutamate is an ingredient. The
calcium and glutamate
will work in conjunction with zinc in a number of
different ways. The zinc
will block excess calcium into the NMDA type glutamate
receptors. If you
go to a high level of zinc it will stimulate the AMPA
type. So you will
want to eliminate calcium and glutamate (also other
excitotoxins such as
aspartate, aspartame, glutamic acid...)."

OK, so Wyndie, have you ever tried Molybdenum? I ask
because it has been one of those huge wows for us.
There is a British company that sells one, Ionic
Molybdenum by Metabolics, that is completely allergen
free. It's like taking 10 baby drops of water.
Anyway, apparently there are other ways to get zinc
levels up and copper down. I started out buying this
from Michael Payne in VA but now I found another
source. If you are interested let me know and I can
get you some.

Hope you have a great day today! Stay in touch.

Hugs,
Jenny

--- Wyndie <mileski5@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> No problem Jenny. I was on so many boards today I
> know in one post I
> was responding to something from another board. LOL
> So
> embarrassing... Anywhoo, thanks for your time and
> info today. You've
> been a wealth of info and I certainly appreciate it!
> Wyndie
>
> --- In foodallergyautism@yahoogroups.com, Jenny
> Kalis <j_kalis@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Wyndie, I guess I must have gotten you confused
> with
> > Crystal. Sorry. I'll try to explain the zinc
> thing
> > in another post. gotta run do something else real
> > quick.
> >
> > Take care!
> > Jenny
>
>
>

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Faith is my child (2yr old) with limited foods b/c of severe food allergies. Well yesterday I noticed what I thought was beginning eczema on her arm. Today her...
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Wyndie, OK, if it were me here is what I would do. Are you trying to do SCD? Can she tolerate things like potatoes? tapioca? I would give Aloe Vera...
Jenny Kalis
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Hi Jenny! We are not trying to do SCD. We're trying for BED mostly, but I am not one to get stuck on a certain diet. I agree with you that in crisis' we have...
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Wydie, I really feel for you as I know what this is like. It sounds to me like she desperately needs good, consistent nutrition and needs to lower her ...
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Jenny, I've never had Faith on Neocate or Elecare. I'm not sure but I think you may have Crystal and I mixed up. ;) She's going to see Rossignol. I am kind...
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Wyndie, I guess I must have gotten you confused with Crystal. Sorry. I'll try to explain the zinc thing in another post. gotta run do something else real ...
Jenny Kalis
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No problem Jenny. I was on so many boards today I know in one post I was responding to something from another board. LOL So embarrassing... Anywhoo, thanks...
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Hi Wyndie. ok, I got this info off the holistichealth.com discussion group from old posts made by Dr. Amy Yasko. Zinc can be like a double edge sword and if...
Jenny Kalis
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Nov 2, 2007
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Jenny, Jake's zinc supplementation is way higher than that, but he's been diagnosed with a zinc deficiency before. Also I've understood zinc loading is ...
Tara McClintick
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She gets molybdenum in her daily minerals. We were supplementing (with a powdered form) for awhile but I figured what she is getting in her daily was enough...
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Oh Wyndie, I so wish I knew something magic for Faith. You pretty well know what my advice will be, but I'll give it anyhow. We were pretty close to this point...
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Thanks for the advice Suzanne. It's always good to be reminded of things. :) I think of you guys OFTEN when dealing with her extremely limited diet. I had...
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I would definitely rotate olive oil and coconut oil - 3 days on and 3 days off for each one (and give YCK just on the coconut oil days). You really DON'T want...
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