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RE: [feeding] New with a few questions

Mandi, has Alex had a bronchoscope with saline wash to see if he is aspirating in his lungs?
 
 

Jamie Dials
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-----Original Message-----
From: mandi handy [mailto:findhope42@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 9:02 AM
To: feeding@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [feeding] New with a few questions

they did the same thing to alex they took him off all food by mouth. they said that he cant eat by mouth till he has a nother swallow study done and the doctor said he wont have one for at least 6 mo.  The doctor also said that the fundo and the tube usualy fix the aperating.  I dont understand how but thats what they told me.  Maybe that info can help you        mandi 

jdials@... wrote:
what about a pH probe for Reflux.  There is silent reflux that may not show up on a swallow study.  Does he have lots of ear infections?  That could be a sign.  In my little ones case there was similar eating issues and what we though were allergies and lung issues that we thought was asthma.  All turned out to be complicated by silent reflux.  She was allergy tested (recommended not to be done before two for better accuracy) no allergies.  Then we did the pH probe and what did you know, major reflux, she did the probe on full adult dose of previcid and major reflux all the time.  Nissen fundoplication and g-tube to try to get on the growth charts and now she is improving.  I know his lung issues where caused by the meconium aspiration, but are they still getting worse? 
 
 

Jamie Dials
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(614) 276-4000 ext. 2047
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-----Original Message-----
From: tkea0103 [mailto:tkea0103@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:57 PM
To: feeding@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [feeding] New with a few questions

Hi...first some background.  My son is currently 16 months old and
weighs 18-1/2 pounds and is about 30".  He was born term.  He was
born with severe meconium aspiration syndrome.  He was put on ECMO
(heart/lung bypass) for a week and was on mechanical vent for 3
weeks.  He had seizures twice in the first week and was on
phenobarbitol until last October.  The ECMO caused a blood clot in
his renal artery which caused high blood pressure for which he is
still on medication.  He is on asthma meds since his lungs were so
badly damaged and takes zyrtec for allergies (not sure the
culprit).  He currently sees PT, ST, and a nutritionist through
ECI.  We are adopting him so missed the first 4 months of his life. 
He has never been a great eater.  He went through a period where he
would throw up everything solid we tried to feed him.  At the time,
the OT thought it was behavioral. 

Fast forward to now....he is still not a good eater (on most days I
would say a poor eater).  He is not throwing up much (not sure what
changed) although still does it from time to time.  Sometimes we are
pretty sure it is behavioral and others we are not sure.  He is
currently drinking pediasure and I add dry powdered milk to it to
boost the calories to 37cal/oz.  He enjoys the concept of
eating "real" food (loves to sit in the high chair at dinner
and "eat") but usually not much ends up in his mouth.  So far the
only tests he has had are a swallow study and a barium swallow/upper
GI (everything looked ok in both).  We are seeing a Ped GI.  He has
not wanted to run more tests because he says first of all he isn't
gaining because he isn't getting enough calories (no argument there)
and second of all, if something GI related was going on he would
have other symptoms beside slow/lack of weight gain (ie loose
bowels, constipation etc).  His only "symptom" is not gaining.  He
is very active (part of the problem) and pretty much on target
developmentally (not counting speech). 

I guess my first question is...should I push for more tests to be
run (allergy test, thyroid, cf, celiacs etc) even though we have no
others symptoms present?  He is getting too few calories, but he
just rarely seems hungry and forcing him to eat is not an option and
wouldn't work anyway because it would just turn into a battle. 

Second question....how are you getting perscriptions filled for
periactin?  My sons developmental ped recommended it and when I
mentioned it to his GI doc he said it was no longer availble because
it was taken off the market?  It might not be an option for him
anyway because of his high blood pressure but if it is still
available I would like to at least discuss the possibility of using
it.

Thirdly...any advice/info (pros/cons) on tube feeding would help as
well.  We don't want to have to go this route, but are at least
keeping it as a last resort option (we just don't know when that
last resort is)

Thanks
Krys           



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Hi...first some background. My son is currently 16 months old and weighs 18-1/2 pounds and is about 30". He was born term. He was born with severe meconium...
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I only have one bit of minor information. I don't think your son has cystic fibrosis. My son has it and the symptoms your son has don't seem to match CF....
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Krys, Congratulations on the adoption of your son. I have a 14.5 month old girl who was born at 28 weeks due to IUGR. She is currently 16lbs and about 27" -...
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Hi - My daughter, Alexandra is 15 months (5 months adjusted), 19# 4oz and 31 ins with extrapyramidal Cerebral Palsy, Cleft lip/Palate (repaired), Strabismis...
Amy Frick
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Amy, Hi and welcome to the group when you say 15months(5 adjusted) what do you mean, My daughter was a preemie and she is 17 months13months adjusted because I...
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Hi Niki, Alexandra is a full term baby, what I mean by the 5 months adjusted is her development. At first we thought her being behind was due to the ONH, but...
Amy Frick
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Hi, My daughter's hamstring were also we tight. Our PT suggested the theratogs knee immobilisers for her to put for an hour or so during the day. They helped a...
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Jul 1, 2004
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Hi Monica, We have only been seeing PT and OT for a little over a month now and had to skip 2 weeks because I had surgery, but we are back on track now. ...
Amy Frick
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Krys - Your ped should be able to prescribe the periactin if the GI won't, but it troubles me that the said it was off the market when it isn't. Maybe you...
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Krys, We have been on periactin for six months, so it is definetly not off the market. We have had good results with it. Mykayla is actually swallowing...
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what about a pH probe for Reflux. There is silent reflux that may not show up on a swallow study. Does he have lots of ear infections? That could be a sign....
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they did the same thing to alex they took him off all food by mouth. they said that he cant eat by mouth till he has a nother swallow study done and the doctor...
mandi handy
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Mandi, has Alex had a bronchoscope with saline wash to see if he is aspirating in his lungs? Jamie Dials Analyst, Spiriva Submissions and Inspections Subteam ...
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No he had a swallow study and they said he was asperating every kind odd consistency food into his lungs Alex has had pnamonia or broncitis every year for the...
mandi handy
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Okay, We have pneumonia or bronchitis about once a month also. There is a group on Yahoo called Lung-gerd that you may find helpful. lung-gerd@yahoogroups.com...
jdials@...
jamieldials
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he had a fundo. when he got his tube but the doctor didnt realy talk about any dammage to his lungs I dont even think they looked. mandi ...
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Krys, hello & welcome! You've had a lot of good suggestions. I really only have one. I'm the mom of a former 22 wk preemie. He never had an appetite until we...
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Jul 2, 2004
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Hi - I've seen a few references to g-tubes causing or encouraging aversion and sensory issues. Can someone please elaborate? Obviously using the g-tube won't...
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Jul 2, 2004
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Aversion can be caused by an NG tube, but I don't believe the g-tube actually causes aversions or sensory issues...often they already exist in kids who end up...
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I agree, the ng tube can be very bothersome and can create worse aversion. We opted to keep an ng tube for my son. He had aversion, but thankfully at about...
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In my case the twins have become g-tube dependent. Meaning they know that they are going to get fed through their tube so they don't think they have to use...
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Sam got his G tube a month and a half ago. Obvously there was a need to put the tube in or it wouldn't have been placed. However... Since the tube has been put...
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Good points about the not eating b/c they can just use the tube. I hadn't thought about it that way. Nicole ... need to ... the ... it. He ... doesn't ... him...
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Some kids really struggle as oral feeders. They may be physically uncomfortable or they may use up a great deal of energy just getting enough to eat. They...
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Dear Suzanne, You're my hero! I want to thank you so much for your 3 part article on children with feeding tubes. I found it on your website and it totally...
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extra sensory issues from g-tube. My grandson has had a g-tube for almost 3 years. I understand sensory issues from the ng or nj-tube but am curious as to what...
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