Plain and simple...just don't have your surgery done through LVI. I
am also an ex EGW employee, burned because I posess ethics. The BEST
thing that ever happened in my time with EGW was being fired. It is
a sick sick place to work.

I have NEVER worked for a more despicable, disgusting company.
Their sole intent and purpose is to rip people off. I would not
trust my eyesight to anyone on the Musa payroll.

PLEASE contact the Atty General in your state and advise them if you
have any difficulty getting your deposit back.

I can tell you as a former store manager, I was FORBIDDEN to submit
a refund request for someone who had simply "changed their mind"
about having lasik. Per my area manager, they could only be a
medical non candidate per our independent doctor of optometry (ha ha
ha) to get their PARTIAL refund ($100 of your $300 or so deposit is
spent on your pre-op and is non-refundable).


I believe the Musa's were fined for this policy by the FTC in the
last few years. That's when I knew I had made a mistake in
accepting a position with them...they were still enforcing business
practices that a FEDERAL agancy had cited and fined them for. Then I
got wind of their record with the BBB.

Arrogance. Pure arrogance and disreagrd for the law.

Good Luck!








--- In eyegw@yahoogroups.com, Con Artist <exmusadoctor@y...> wrote:
> That's okay that you haven't had surgery. You need a court of law
to strictly invalidate that contract based upon the state that you
were in to sign it.
>
> Once the court makes a decision, and it is in writing it then
becomes a precedent.
>
> Without passing judgement and without saying if this decision was
right or wrong, I will refer you to the decision by the Mass.
Supreme Court allowing same sex marriages. This decision will now
have ripple affects because it is a legal precedent in this area of
society applicable to other states.
>
> Your asking a court to invalidate the contract in which you had to
pay your money would open the flood gates. The Musas have a
corporate policy of no refunds. If they don't refund 100% of your
money then go after them in a small claims court. It costs you next
to nothing and the decisison of a small claims court is just as
valid as that of a supreme court in terms of legal precedents.
>
> I can't emphasize enough that it is not the money at issue here,
it is the legal precedent.
>
>
>
> Angela <alglona@y...> wrote:
> But it's not something I can really pursue since I have not had
the lasik done. I am scheduled to have it done 12/27/03 but after
reading all of the bad things about them I doubt I will go through
with the surgery. I just thought it was odd to have people
sign "their lives away" when they can't see anything. The customer
service lady even filled out my credit application for me.
>
> Con Artist <exmusadoctor@y...> wrote:You bring up a valid point.
I'm going to play devil's advocate on this one from experience and
how I've seen them react to this situation before.
>
> The Musas will likely counter that it is your fault for signing
the contract and that your signature is on a valid contract.
However, there are roughly four elements that make a valid
contract. These are outlined below:
>
> 1) Must be for a lawful purpose
> 2) Agreement: The contract must have offer and accpetance
> 3) Consideration: The price paid for consideration
> 4) Capacity to contract: This is the clause that says you must
not be senile or intoxicated. However, in your case this refers to
not being dilated.
>
> Therefore, even though points one, two, and three have been
satisfied by the Musas contract, point number four the capacity to
contract has not been satisfied. You were in no capcity to sign a
contract you could not read.
>
> This is standard issue for the Musas. In the Lasik centers they
turn their patient's over to the patient counselors at the end of
the exam when you are dilated to sign these documents. As a patient
you cannot sign what you cannot read, whether you are intoxicated or
in this case dilated.
>
> Let me put it to you this way. If you win in court on this one,
then scores of patient's that have had terrible lasik outcomes would
legally be able to come after the musas because the courts would
find their waiver of rights contracts and their contracts invalid.
This is no small matter because as you can see by the patients in
Tampa that went through enormous pain this past July (2003).
>
> The only thing protecting the Musas at this point in time from
scores of litigation is their contracts that they have signed.
>
> I have a respected friend and great Attorney in Austin, Texas by
the name of John K. Tyler. I met him at a conference a number of
years ago and he embodies everything about Texas, warm, friendly,
and sincere. Do a keyword search on him as I have lost his contact
information, but can find it for you within 72 hours if necessary.
>
> Let me know if I can be of any service. Remember, the ABC news
station in Tampa, Florida has the names of all of the victims of the
July 2003 surgical incident. If you are successful in your
litigation, you open the ground for scores of people to recover
damages from the pain and suffering they went through at that Tampa
center. It is highly likely that many of those people would watch
your case very closely as they also signed contracts while dilated.
>
> Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance.
>
> With regards.
>
>
> alglona@y... wrote:
> anyone got any info on lasik vision institute in houston, texas?
>
> i went there for a pre-op and they had me signing consent forms
while
> my eyes were dilated.
>
> they said it would be $699 per eye for my lasik. $100 per eye for
> plugs and $100 per eye for lifetime assurance.
>
> do u think they really honor their lifetime assurance plan?
>
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