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Re: [Ewings Sarcoma] Cape Cod Ewing's Sarcoma Cluster


Patricia

Maine West High School in DesPlaines, Illinois, had cases of Ewing's
sarcoma in 2003 and 2004 (the latter being a recent graduate). It's a
big school (5000 or so) just north of O'hare International Airport.
That community has perceived an excess of cancer, and I have seen
contours of incidence that diminish the further you get from the
airport. To have two cases of such a rare disease so close together
gets your attention, no matter what the epidemiologists say. Your
information is interesting.

I belong to several yahoo groups, and all are organized differently. It
seems members of this group receive new messages automatically, so you
don't have to visit the home page (unless you want to download files or
search for old messages. If you follow this link:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ewingssarcoma/
<http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ewingssarcoma/>

and click on the word "Files" you can download the files I have posted.

My sympathies to you on the loss of your daughter. I too lost a
daughter in January just after her 22 birthday. She battled 3 years,
and enjoyed much support as she was an active athlete and played on many
teams.

If you read my posts, there is an association on Cape Cod between a
unique electromagnetic radiation exposure and Ewing's. But I think
there are statistical confounders, and one (on a worldwide basis) is
contact sports (hockey, football, soccer). I am also suspicious of
osteochondroma; there seems to be a excess of that disease which
parallels the Cape Cod Ewing's cluster. After revealing my concerns to
the state health department, a mother with a son who had Ewing's said
she had another son with osteochondroma!

Most of our professional epidemiologists are inclined to discredit talk
of clusters. But this is the 21st century, and with a better educated
population, the ability to instantaneously communicate with one another,
massive information storage and retrieval technology, and the help of
some friendly epidemiologists, I beleive we may be able to identify risk
factors for Ewing's where none now exist.

Do you have any idea if the is a common exposure to some environmental
factor in your community or school? Even though I live on this side of
"the pond," I have seen several stories of Ewing's cases in the same
geographic area you describe. I'd like to know more about your
concerns. I don't want to bias your thinking before revealing some of
the confounding factors that have caught my attention.

Hope to we hear more from you.

Bernie





--- In ewingssarcoma@yahoogroups.com, "patricia smith"
<patriciasmith@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I wonder could you post the information, I live in the republic of
ireland and we have a population of 3500,000million
> yet where I live and near by three teenagers at the same time were
diagnosed with ewings sarcoma.
> two sat beside one another in the same school.
> my daughter Krystle died of ewings sarcoma at aged 18 years we live 10
miles away.
> I am interested in clusters and I am a member of The bone cancer
research trust www.bonecancerresearch.org.uk
> I got a lot of data from ireland england scotland and wales and we
seem to have a lot for a small population.
> there is very little research in this area.
>
> regards
> patricia
> ireland
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bjyoung716
> To: ewingssarcoma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ewings Sarcoma] Cape Cod Ewing's Sarcoma Cluster
>
>
>
> Scott
>
> Thank you for your comments. I have just posted three files on this
> blog (which I think are visible only to members) which answer most of
> the points you raise. They are dated and are best read in
chronological
> order; they seem to be listed with most recent on top.
>
> I would only add that diagnosis is often delayed, which is of
particular
> concern for athletes who are used to playing through pain. Our medical
> institutions are world class when it comes to confirming a diagnosis
and
> treating the disease. At the local level things are more ordinary.
>
> This cluster is unique to Cape Cod. There does not seem to be a
> dramatic elevation in Ewing's anywhere else in New England. It is 67%
> more severe than the Woburn Leukemia cluster documented the movie "A
> Civil Action."
>
> I don't know if EMR from our high powered radar station is the cause,
> but there are enough reasons to be concerned, and the research
> surrounding it has been pathetically poor. If anyone is still
> interested after reading these files, I have a 23 page letter of
> comments on a recent Environmental Impact Statement I can post.
>
> Bernie
>
> --- In ewingssarcoma@yahoogroups.com, Scott and Bernice Alcott
> scottbernice@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Bernie,
> >
> > I'm a Ewing's patient and an American living in Belgium (just 10
> million people) and have been anecdotally surprised at the number of
> cases just known to me arising in this small country. Turns out the
> nephew of a close work colleague also has ewing's, odd. So I started
> wondering about "clusters" too. After looking into it all, now I'm not
> so sure about the anecdotal math I was doing.
> >
> > In your case, Ewing's should appear much more often in the cape
anyway
> versus the general poulation. Are you controlling for that? Ewing's is
a
> white person's disease (it shows up 9x more often in white people) and
> the cape has 80% fewer "non-whites" then the general population.
Ewing's
> overwhelmingly clusters in teens 15-19. I don't know if the incidents
> you count on the cape include the summer/second home population which
> may statistically over-index heavily on families with kids versus the
> general population? Last, I've read that Ewing's is often discovered
> "more" in places with access to top teaching hospitals and places that
> do great pathology while other locations fail to accurately
subclassify
> tumors as Ewings (they think they are just general sarcomas or
> osteo-sarcoma, etc.). The cape has access to some of the finest
doctors,
> institutions and teaching hospitals in the world. Maybe kids who get
> painful lumps on the cape get to Boston and correctly diagnosed in
that
> area more than kids in other places? I don't know. I just think it's
> hard to control for all of this and accurately assess things. Ewing's
is
> so small and has so many correlations (age, race, diagnostic variance)
> that there is huge statistical "standard error" in the data. Given all
> that, I lost confidence in my ability to extrapolate the meaning of
> variance from 10 cases when there should have 4. Numbers are just too
> small. In my case, Belgium is VERY white and it's a world leader in
> analysis and pathology. I'm not so sure about anything any more!
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: ewingssarcoma@: no_reply@: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 04:39:23
> +0000Subject: [Ewings Sarcoma] Cape Cod Ewing's Sarcoma Cluster
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Friends:Here on Cape Cod we have a cluster of Ewing's sarcoma with a
> standardized incidence ratio of 3.84 (Massachusetts Department of
Public
> Health figure)or 6.67 (my figure). We should see one case every 6.7
> years, and had (in children) 2 in 2002. 3 in 2003, 2 in 2004, and one
in
> 2005. There are cses in 1996 and 1996. There are also adult cases. A
> pair were diagnosed the same day; the 2 in 2004 the same month. A pair
> are 1.75 miles apart; another pair 1/4 mile apart. There is an
ensemble
> of 3 cases in the Mid-Cape, but most cases are from the Upper Cape.
> THere is a 13 mile gap between these two ensembles.I am suspicious of
a
> particularly high incidence in athletes or athletically active
> individuals, although I recognize we are becoming a more active
> society.Anyone have any observations or concerns to offer to this
> discussion?Bernie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Friends: Here on Cape Cod we have a cluster of Ewing's sarcoma with a standardized incidence ratio of 3.84 (Massachusetts Department of Public Health figure)or...
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Hi Bernie, I'm a Ewing's patient and an American living in Belgium (just 10 million people) and have been anecdotally surprised at the number of cases just...
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Scott Thank you for your comments. I have just posted three files on this blog (which I think are visible only to members) which answer most of the points you...
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Hi I wonder could you post the information, I live in the republic of ireland and we have a population of 3500,000million yet where I live and near by three...
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Hi,     My name is Fawad and I am a Pakistani, I lost my younger brother (Umar) to ewings sarcoma of pelvic bone in Feb 2004. Although we don't have...
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Patricia Maine West High School in DesPlaines, Illinois, had cases of Ewing's sarcoma in 2003 and 2004 (the latter being a recent graduate). It's a big...
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My son, now 26 years old, was diagnosed at age 18 with Ewings Sarcoma.  We live in a suburb of Detroit, called Bloomfield Hills. There were at least three...
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Sharon & Fawad This site had been dormant for a month and all of sudden it's a whirlwind. If you follow the same message I left with Patricia and read the...
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Bernie,   My son was diagnosed during his first semester at Michigan, my daughter will be a sophmore there this fall. Interesting to hear your're an alumni. ...
Sharon Kory
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My daughter was diagnosed in 2002 at age eight, she was involved in some sports, but not much at that age. However, another child at the same school was...
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Hi There have been clusters in south of england in a school, as I said it has been something \i have been very interested in, as I said on my own I got from...
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I have been reading all of this and I'd like to add my 2 cents. JT broke his leg Dec.31,04 wasn't diagnosed with Ewings until Nov. 15,07. For at least two...
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Hi Shauna,   I too am interested in the clusters. I can completely associate with you on the growing pains. That is all I heard for two years on my daughter....
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Marybeth, I think alot of the ER diagnosis depends on what kind of doctor they are, we just weren't lucky enough to get an orthopedic oncology doctor. JT...
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Shauna, and other friends out there in the blogosphere: This has been a busy 24 hours. I'd like to offer some observations of what's on people's minds. 1)...
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Hi Shauna,   We were diagnosed at St. Jude Childrens Research Hospital after our local ER found the tumor, we were sent there immediately. I remind myself...
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My son Mike was a high school athlete who played football. When he was a senior he began having pain in his foot-he thought it was related with his running and...
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Hi my daughter Krystle in the February 2001 was playing rackettball in the local leisure centre she was a tall young girl of 17 years old she tripped and fell...
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... From: marybeth adkins To: ewingssarcoma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [Ewings Sarcoma] Cape Cod Ewing's Sarcoma...
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Hi I was just thinking about something Krystle was left handed and I go to a meeting of Bone Cancer research trust in the Uk every 10 weeks and I was asking...
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Marybeth, I had to laugh at your posting... in the beginning I didn't know his bowel activity but I sure do now! Have a great Day and thanks for making me...
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Bernie, Thanks for all the info, I'm saving that to reflect on from time to time. Yes, we were in the Air Force at Keesler AFB in Biloxi, MS. or at least...
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Shauna, I actually prepared this response last night. My email records seem to suggest it was sent to a wastebasket instead of this group site. I belong to 4...
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Teresa, That is what makes me so mad. I took JT to the ER on five different occassions all we EVER got was an xray which should a broken bone that healed...
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