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I am new to this group, but I have not heard of EPONA. I looked them up on the web, but have not heard of what they do and how well they do it. Please can any of you share. Thanks.

Kelly Wisnefske

From: equineassisted@yahoogroups.com [mailto:] On Behalf Of Greg Kersten
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:14 AM
To: equineassisted@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [equineassisted] Re: The Corral Gathering

O.K. Now I see how to do it - When you hit reply, you have to change the " To" field to the
whole group (I think).

There is a preliminary flier for the Corral Gathering on the website - just go to " calendar"
and you can get a brief description of the event. We have preliminary confirmation of the
following presenters: Ed Dabney (horse clinician), Charlie Keyes (Guinness Book of World
Records Roper), Mental Health Presentations by Greg and the O.K. Corral (of course),
EFMHA (lookin' real good), and we have not received a reply from EPONA or EAGALA folks
yet.

We will get the details on the web site as soon as they are available! Hope to see you
there!!!

Jennifer Kersten

--- In equineassisted@yahoogroups.com, "lovemyred_qh" <trumpx@...> wrote:
>
> This sounds really great!
> **I am new to the group, so Hi to all from Illinois**
>
> Where can I find out more info. about this, like the dates and so
> forth?
>
> Thanks alot- Amy
>
>
> --- In equineassisted@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Kersten" <re-ride@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I am sending this as a reply to Bob's post, but I was afraid to
> just
> > hit "reply" after what Sally said about it not going to anyone
> > except the person you are replying to!
> >
> > We are making big plans for the gathering and can tell you the
> > following so far: There will be a reputable horse clinician - or
> > two, we are also scheduling ranch roping and trick roping type
> > demos/workshops. Of course there will be EAP demos! Dutch Oven
> > cooking, a tack auction, and even local horses for sale.
> >
> > It is like a conference - old west style. Nephi, Utah is a cute
> > little cowtown about two hours south of the Salt Lake Airport. It
> > is easy to find and hotels are modest and inexpensive. Best of
> all,
> > we are looking to keep the whole price under $300 for 3 days of
> > activities.
> >
> > Be sure to stay tuned to the website as we will post everything as
> > we confirm it.
> >
> > Thanks for allowinf a little shameless self-promotion!
> >
> > Jennifer
> >
>

#31

From: "Greg Kersten" <re-ride@...>
Date: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: The Corral Gathering

eapfounder

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O.K. Now I see how to do it - When you hit reply, you have to change the " To" 
field to the
whole group (I think).

There is a preliminary flier for the Corral Gathering on the website - just go
to " calendar"
and you can get a brief description of the event.  We have preliminary
confirmation of the
following presenters:  Ed Dabney (horse clinician),  Charlie Keyes (Guinness
Book of World
Records Roper), Mental Health Presentations by Greg and the O.K. Corral (of
course),
EFMHA (lookin' real good), and we have not received a reply from EPONA or EAGALA
folks
yet.

We will get the details on the web site as soon as they are available! Hope to
see you
there!!!

Jennifer Kersten

--- In equineassisted@yahoogroups.com, "lovemyred_qh" <trumpx@...> wrote:
>
> This sounds really great!
> **I am new to the group, so Hi to all from Illinois**
>
> Where can I find out more info. about this, like the dates and so
> forth?
>
> Thanks alot-  Amy
>
>
> --- In equineassisted@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Kersten" <re-ride@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I am sending this as a reply to Bob's post, but I was afraid to
> just
> > hit "reply" after what Sally said about it not going to anyone
> > except the person you are replying to!
> >
> > We are making big plans for the gathering and can tell you the
> > following so far:  There will be a reputable horse clinician - or
> > two, we are also scheduling ranch roping and trick roping type
> > demos/workshops.  Of course there will be EAP demos!  Dutch Oven
> > cooking, a tack auction, and even local horses for sale.
> >
> > It is like a conference - old west style.  Nephi, Utah is a cute
> > little cowtown about two hours south of the Salt Lake Airport.  It
> > is easy to find and hotels are modest and inexpensive.  Best of
> all,
> > we are looking to keep the whole price under $300 for 3 days of
> > activities.
> >
> > Be sure to stay tuned to the website as we will post everything as
> > we confirm it.
> >
> > Thanks for allowinf a little shameless self-promotion!
> >
> > Jennifer
> >
>

#30

From: "lovemyred_qh" <trumpx@...>
Date: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:49 am
Subject: Re: The Corral Gathering

lovemyred_qh

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This sounds really great!
**I am new to the group, so Hi to all from Illinois**

Where can I find out more info. about this, like the dates and so
forth?

Thanks alot-  Amy


--- In equineassisted@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Kersten" <re-ride@...>
wrote:
>
> I am sending this as a reply to Bob's post, but I was afraid to
just
> hit "reply" after what Sally said about it not going to anyone
> except the person you are replying to!
>
> We are making big plans for the gathering and can tell you the
> following so far:  There will be a reputable horse clinician - or
> two, we are also scheduling ranch roping and trick roping type
> demos/workshops.  Of course there will be EAP demos!  Dutch Oven
> cooking, a tack auction, and even local horses for sale.
>
> It is like a conference - old west style.  Nephi, Utah is a cute
> little cowtown about two hours south of the Salt Lake Airport.  It
> is easy to find and hotels are modest and inexpensive.  Best of
all,
> we are looking to keep the whole price under $300 for 3 days of
> activities.
>
> Be sure to stay tuned to the website as we will post everything as
> we confirm it.
>
> Thanks for allowinf a little shameless self-promotion!
>
> Jennifer
>

#29

From: "sallycarlon" <sacww@...>
Date: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:37 am
Subject: Re: insurance?

sallycarlon

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Nicki,

I too was a riding instructor, barn owner, manager etc for years. I
made sure the insurance carrier I was using for those activities
also covered EAP. Not really a problem. I used Goetz Insurors out of
Colorado. 1-970-867-8246, Kelley Baugh. They are familiar with EAP
activities. Just explain to her what your needs are.

I would not use the word therapy unless you have a mental health
professional involved in your sessions. Therapeutic riding generally
refers to sessions involving a physical or occupational therapist or
a speech language pathologist. Tricky territory but best to be very
clear about what you are offering.

In reference to what Anne is saying about an EAP team - Once I
worked as the horse professional in a team that actually worked well
together, synergistically, if you will; I was hooked. Our EAP team
consisted of Anne, the psychologist; me; Gazelle, the horse most
often enlisted and the client of course. Anne and Gazelle were able
to glide through the most delicate situations wtih such dexterity
and skill they absolutely maximized the healing made by the clients.
Most of the time I just had to hold my mouth shut because it was
often hanging open in amazement and wonder. Over the years, I've
worked with other excellent mental health professionals and I've
worked with some therapists I wouldn't care to work with ever again.

In short, I hope you are able to put together a great team. There
are excellent professionals in every field. (and crappy ones too!)

Sally A. Carlon
Albuquerque, NM

--- In equineassisted@yahoogroups.com, "anne4s123" <anne4s123@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Nicki,
>
> Nice to see a fellow Wisconsinite on the board.  I'm actually not
sure
> if I'm just responding to you or responding to the whole group.  I
> still don't quite have that figured out.  I wanted to comment on
your
> post, but also make a more general comment.  The more general
comment
> will make the more specific comment make more sense.  I'm a
clinical
> psychologist and have held licenses in four states.  Given my
> profession, I'm of the old school of EAP and really value the
> combination of equine professional and therapist.  I feel
extremely
> nervous whenever I hear somebody talking about using the
> word "therapy" without having a therapist at least standing around
> looking useful.  Bob is absolutely right about the potential legal
> ramifications.  On the other hand, having worked with a highly
skilled
> equine professional who has more insight than many therapists, I
also
> see the value of non-therapists doing this work (which is, whether
you
> call it therapy or not, extremely therapeutic).  The important
thing
> is to make sure that the non-therapist is making no claims of
treating
> any diagnosed (or diagnosable) mental health condition.
>
> I haven't seen much from other therapists on the message board.  I
> sincerely hope this can be a forum for open dialogue between
> therapists and equine professionals.  I have the impression there
may
> have been some bad experiences.  It doesn't have to be like that
> (right Sally?)
>
> Best of luck with your endeavor in Madison.
>
> Anne Fors
> Milwaukee, WI
>
>
> --- In equineassisted@yahoogroups.com, "findawayfarm"
> <findawayfarm@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey everyone, I've been a riding instructor for 30 years, an
open
> show
> > judge, rider/trainer ans stable manager and I'm just getting
into
> the
> > EEL/EAP stuff  (on a more coherent basis. we want to do a one
day
> > seesion in July, but have questions regardinfg insurance. Is it
> death
> > to use the word "therapy"? What do other people do? Any help or
> > suggestions are welcome. thanks  Nicki Butler Madison,Wis
> >
>

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#28

From: "anne4s123" <anne4s123@...>
Date: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:37 am
Subject: Re: insurance?

anne4s123

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Hi Nicki,

Nice to see a fellow Wisconsinite on the board.  I'm actually not sure
if I'm just responding to you or responding to the whole group.  I
still don't quite have that figured out.  I wanted to comment on your
post, but also make a more general comment.  The more general comment
will make the more specific comment make more sense.  I'm a clinical
psychologist and have held licenses in four states.  Given my
profession, I'm of the old school of EAP and really value the
combination of equine professional and therapist.  I feel extremely
nervous whenever I hear somebody talking about using the
word "therapy" without having a therapist at least standing around
looking useful.  Bob is absolutely right about the potential legal
ramifications.  On the other hand, having worked with a highly skilled
equine professional who has more insight than many therapists, I also
see the value of non-therapists doing this work (which is, whether you
call it therapy or not, extremely therapeutic).  The important thing
is to make sure that the non-therapist is making no claims of treating
any diagnosed (or diagnosable) mental health condition.

I haven't seen much from other therapists on the message board.  I
sincerely hope this can be a forum for open dialogue between
therapists and equine professionals.  I have the impression there may
have been some bad experiences.  It doesn't have to be like that
(right Sally?)

Best of luck with your endeavor in Madison.

Anne Fors
Milwaukee, WI

--- In equineassisted@yahoogroups.com, "findawayfarm"
<findawayfarm@...> wrote:
>
> Hey everyone, I've been a riding instructor for 30 years, an open
show
> judge, rider/trainer ans stable manager and I'm just getting into
the
> EEL/EAP stuff  (on a more coherent basis. we want to do a one day
> seesion in July, but have questions regardinfg insurance. Is it
death
> to use the word "therapy"? What do other people do? Any help or
> suggestions are welcome. thanks  Nicki Butler Madison,Wis
>

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#27

From: "dualkingbob" <bob@...>
Date: Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:10 am
Subject: weekending

dualkingbob

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The week is just about over and I had a great week working with people
and horses. This message board has been quite this week and I was just
wondering how everyone else was doing.
Bob

#26

From: "dualkingbob" <bob@...>
Date: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:09 pm
Subject: therapy reply

dualkingbob

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Nicki,
Your right. Sometimes it is therapy to just sit on a fence and look
out into the pasture. The problem starts when people start
misrepresenting themselves as therapists or some other professional
title. As long as you dont misrepresent yourself to be practicing
outside your qualifications, and you state openly that you are not a
therapist you "should" be OK with the phrase equine therapy. To be on
the safe side you may want to consider referring to the work you do as
equine assisted activities or learning.
Bob

#25

From: "jean stucker" <jstucker@...>
Date: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:41 pm
Subject: therapy

hobbyacres

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You know, I find it therapeutic just to feed the horses, so I can’t imagine why you could not use it in a casual term, but we could not make claims to do therapy in metal health, I think…

I do therapeutic riding with out a PT or OT, but we don’t do hippo therapy, but things to enhance other programs.

When giving “plain” riding lessons, I still use principals learned in EAP untraining, getting the riders to think about what works and what doesn’t and not holding to the “rules of horsemanship” so much. I have watched some pretty interesting haltering sessions with kids and it’s fun to see their lights go on when they figure out how to get the halter on and have it “work”!

The students who show their horses get more “instructional” lessons, but I still set them up to find what works. I keep telling them it’s just like life, if they don’t know where they want to go, they won’t get there.

Jeanne Stucker

#24

From: "findawayfarm" <findawayfarm@...>
Date: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:17 pm
Subject: insurance?

findawayfarm

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Hey everyone, I've been a riding instructor for 30 years, an open show
judge, rider/trainer ans stable manager and I'm just getting into the
EEL/EAP stuff  (on a more coherent basis. we want to do a one day
seesion in July, but have questions regardinfg insurance. Is it death
to use the word "therapy"? What do other people do? Any help or
suggestions are welcome. thanks  Nicki Butler Madison,Wis

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#23

From: "dualkingbob" <bob@...>
Date: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:39 pm
Subject: Location reply

dualkingbob

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Jean,
I encourage you to continue ondoing your riding lessons. Develop a
curriculum, plan or style, or use someone elses theraputic riding
lesson to provide a structured lesson plan with your clients. If you
provide an emotionally and phisically safe environment for your
clients, and have respect for your limitations and boundaries, as well
as provide professional service, you can acomplish great success
without a therapist. I am not opposed to working with licensed
therapists and counselors and do so on a regular basis, but I also
work on my own (EAL) and this work also provides fantastic results.
Good luck
Bob

#22

From: "queenannvictorian" <kstrotter@...>
Date: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:57 pm
Subject: north texas

queenannvict...

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Ken,

Hi, I too am located in North Texas, Flower Mound to be exact. Wherre are you
located. I have been doing equine assisted counseling for the past 3 years at
Rocky
Top Therapy Center in Keller, Texas. But, now I am ready to go out on my own, it
probalbly helps that I just got my LPC too. I am also a registered play
therapist and
your idea of doing parentin with horese sounds interesting.

Kicking Kay

#21

From: "jean stucker" <jstucker@...>
Date: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:28 pm
Subject: location

hobbyacres

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I am in western OK, about 85 miles west of OKC. We are hosting an OK Corral training here in October. Ya’ll come on up!

Currently our EAP work has not done much more than riding lessons to some at risk kids from a treatment center. Our hope is to get the therapists involved after they see first hand what can be done with the horses as part of the treatment team.

Jeanne Stucker

#20

From: "ken_cates0398" <matt633@...>
Date: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:21 pm
Subject: folks that are apart of the group

ken_cates0398

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Hi Group,
I live in the North Texas area and am curious if there are any that
are apart that live in the this area or the Oklahoma area. Also has
anyone done any parenting classes using the horses? What topics did
you discuss? I am looking for some info. to possibly begin some
classes. Thanks

In Christ,
Ken Cates

#19

From: "Greg Kersten" <re-ride@...>
Date: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:20 pm
Subject: The Corral Gathering

eapfounder

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I am sending this as a reply to Bob's post, but I was afraid to just
hit "reply" after what Sally said about it not going to anyone
except the person you are replying to!

We are making big plans for the gathering and can tell you the
following so far:  There will be a reputable horse clinician - or
two, we are also scheduling ranch roping and trick roping type
demos/workshops.  Of course there will be EAP demos!  Dutch Oven
cooking, a tack auction, and even local horses for sale.

It is like a conference - old west style.  Nephi, Utah is a cute
little cowtown about two hours south of the Salt Lake Airport.  It
is easy to find and hotels are modest and inexpensive.  Best of all,
we are looking to keep the whole price under $300 for 3 days of
activities.

Be sure to stay tuned to the website as we will post everything as
we confirm it.

Thanks for allowinf a little shameless self-promotion!

Jennifer

#18

From: "dualkingbob" <bob@...>
Date: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:47 pm
Subject: Quiet

dualkingbob

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Hi group,
It's been real quiet here the last week and I just wanted to see how
everyone is doing. Hope your all getting ready for a happy Fathers Day.

Bob

#17

From: "dualkingbob" <bob@...>
Date: Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:32 pm
Subject: Corral get together

dualkingbob

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Is any one making plans on going to the corral get together in Nephi
in October? What are the presenters going to present on?

#16

From: "jean stucker" <jstucker@...>
Date: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:36 am
Subject: Dual King Ranch

hobbyacres

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WOW, what a beautiful ranch setting! Your program sounds wonderful and you are so lucky to have such a great staff!

I am curious about the high panels on your round pen. What do you train in there?! I am aware that when adopting mustangs you have to have a high enclosure. Although recently someone was viewing the mustangs in Oklahoma and they said they would have sent some home with nearly anyone who wanted one. I hope that was not true.

Jeanne Stucker

#15

From: "dualkingbob" <bob@...>
Date: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:41 pm
Subject: Hang in there Jean

dualkingbob

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Thanks for the quick reponse Jean. Check out my website at
www.dualkingranch.com Also,
hang in there I think the corral will be a great place for you to get
ideas on how to approach your area with equine assisted learning
activites that can have a positive impact on peoples lives.
Bob

#14

From: "jean stucker" <jstucker@...>
Date: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:12 pm
Subject: owned by the therapist

hobbyacres

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Now that is a funny thought, to be owned by the therapist! LOL I figure I need them to do their work, but they need my horses and talent to use them. I just need to get them to see how neat it is.

Approaching the Therapeutic Riding centers about using their program for therapy might be best handled by showing them some information first. I know the Strides magazine of NARHA has articles about Equine assisted therapy and mental health. Their program is different in some ways, or so I seem to think it is.

Some centers are not interested in expanding due to the work load they already have and don’t understand that this doesn’t involve so many volunteers, infact, it would not involve any.

Don’t give up seeking a way to get horses in your treatment. I think that NARHA has some scared of the work.

After attending the “untraining” in Las Vegas NM, I came home and changed the way I did some of the TR lessons and regular lessons; More of setting them up to figure things out. I felt it really helped the kids learn and retain better.

If you have read any of the Love & Logic books, then you can see how horses can help kids with critical thinking skills. It is not entirely “mental health”, but then again, it might keep them in the right track to avoid not knowing how to make sound choices in life out of the arena.

Jeanne Stucker

#13

From: "dualkingbob" <bob@...>
Date: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:49 pm
Subject: Happy to be here

dualkingbob

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I just wanted to post this message to let everyone know how happy I am
that I made the decision to follow Greg into the corral. From time to
time I check back on the EAGALA forum and it is becoming increasingly
obvious that eagala has become an association for therapists, run by
therapists, or puppets of therapists. There have been a quite a few
posts on the forum from therapists referring to the equine specialist
or ES as they are now calling them as "their" ES. Sorry but I don't
want to be owned by a therapist. Thank God for Greg and Jennifer and
the work they are doing for us and the Corral.
Bob




Bob

#12

From: "jean stucker" <jstucker@...>
Date: Fri Jun 9, 2006 11:52 am
Subject: Horses

hobbyacres

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Anne, Have you considered talking to a therapeutic riding center to see about using their horses in your program? It is something I would do if asked, but I can’t speak for other centers. Also there might be a nearby horse training facility that might be a resource.

I have the opposite problem, the horses, the background, and can’t get the professionals to consider EAP! I hope by hosting a training that it will show the community how effective horses are in therapy. I am sure they have kept me sane ( if I cam that at all!) or have they driven me wacko?! <big Grin>

Red Rock Treatment center has utilized our services for some at risk kids, but not with their counselors, but more of an activity for them. I think so many are afraid of horses and so they don’t understand the power of a horse to change lives.

Jeanne Stucker

#11

From: "jean stucker" <jstucker@...>
Date: Fri Jun 9, 2006 11:46 am
Subject: OK Corral training

hobbyacres

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I am going to be hosting a training in western OK October 4^th, 5^th, & 6^th. Hope to meet some of you here in OK.

More information will be out soon. Oklahoma has 10 perfect days a year and they all fall in October, so we will hope they fall in the first week J

Jeanne Stucker

#10

From: sacww@...
Date: Fri Jun 9, 2006 5:08 am
Subject: FW: Re: Hello from New Mexico

sallycarlon

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-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
From: sacww@...
To: equineassited@yahoogroups.com
Subject: FW: Re: Hello from New Mexico
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 04:51:46 +0000

Dear All at the OK Corral,

I think I just figured out that you have to click the correct box on the yahoo site, otherwise the reply emails go only to the person you are answering not the whole group on the yahoo sight. Hi Anne! I didn't see your email on the yahoo group site and them I anwered two emails one to Bob and one to Spence and didn't see them posted either. Anyway hi everyone and I am forwarding this email from Anne to the group.

Sally

-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
From: "anne4s123" <anne4s123@...>
To: "sallycarlon" <sacww@...>
Subject: Re: Hello from New Mexico
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 01:55:46 +0000

Hello to all OK members (and specifically to Sally - you found me!)

I was once the other half of Sally's EAP team in New Mexico. It was
a wonderful experience, and I'm happy to see New Mexico being
increasingly well represented in the Corral. I am currently working
in a child/adolescent day treatment program in Wisconsin.
Unfortunately, we have no horses to work with in this program, but I
can speak from previous experience to the incredible power of
incorporating horses into helping work. Best to all.

Anne Fors, Ph.D.

--- In equineassisted@yahoogroups.com, "sallycarlon"
wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Who are the members in the OK Corral equine assisted group? I am
> feeling less than "OK" because I have been unable to figure out
how
> to view all the previous messages.
>
> I am from Albuquerque, NM, and currently working on an equine
> assisted program on the To'Hajiilee Navajo Reservation in
> conjunction with the University of New Mexico. I used to have my
own
> facility to work out of, horses and all, but now I work with other
> people's horses and as a consultant.
>
> I hear there is another member of OK Corral here in New Mexico.
Who
> are you? Where are you? Hopefully, we can figure out how to host
an
> OK Corral Event here in NM.
>
> Hi Mr. DualKingBob, you seem to be a person of many words! I look
> forward to hearing more (actually, it would be reading more)about
> you and what you are doing.
>
> Anne F. (y ou know who you are) are you a member of OKness? Your
land
> in Angel Fire awaits you.
>
> Anyway, Hope to meet more of you soon,
>
> Sally A. Carlon
> 505.681.3819
>

From: "dualkingbob" <bob@...>
Date: Fri Jun 9, 2006 3:00 am
Subject: for Sally

dualkingbob

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Sally,
Sorry but I haven't been able to get Claire Barr's number for you yet.
I just wanted to let you know I haven't forgot. If you find her let me
know, as I will continue to find a way to reach her also.
Bob

From: "dualkingbob" <bob@...>
Date: Thu Jun 8, 2006 3:09 pm
Subject: anger

dualkingbob

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Hello members,
I am currently writing an equine based curriculum and am looking for
additional information or handouts for anger, denial, cycles, ect. If
anyone has any information that they would like to share please
respond. Thank you.
Bob

From: "ken_cates0398" <matt633@...>
Date: Mon Jun 5, 2006 12:30 pm
Subject: Becoming more involved

ken_cates0398

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I am curious how you get you program posted on the OK Corral website
under links. I work for a hospice as a Chaplain and Bereavement
Coordinator and we use our horses in our preparatory grief and
bereavement program. We also work with the local juvenile probation
program providing anger management and other counseling services. I
cannot express the benefits the horses have brought to help people. We
have a website www.trinityeqc.com. Anyway, I look forward to being
apart of this group.
Ken Cates

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From: "jean stucker" <jstucker@...>
Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 1:32 pm
Subject: EAP & therapeutic riding

hobbyacres

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After attending the untraining at Las Vegas NM a couple of years ago, I came home and changed how I did my lessons for disabled riders, as well as able bodied riders. I try to have them figure out more rather than me “teaching” them everything. The kids that show their horses are a bit different; I use some concepts, but am a bit more instructional with their sessions.

We offer TR and EAP, but most of our riders are not disabled this year. It seems to come in waves. Since we are entirely volunteer run, we sort of roll with the flow.

I have not yet been able to get any professional counselors interested enough to come learn more about EAP. I hope to host an EAP training out here in western OK to get them to see what it’s all about.

For Sally, the reason you aren’t seeing many messages here is because there aren’t many yet! Hang on, as this group grows, I bet we learn and read much more.

Jeanne Stucker

From: Spencer Kallan <spencerkallan@...>
Date: Fri Jun 2, 2006 4:26 pm
Subject: Transition from Handicapped Riding to EAP/EAL?

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I am curious if anyone has any experience making the
move from handicapped riding facility to a facility
that offers equine assisted psychotherapy/equine
assisted learning.  Does anyone offer both?  How did
you introduce the idea to your clientele and the
community?

Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences.

Spence

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From: "sallycarlon" <sacww@...>
Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 4:55 am
Subject: Hello from New Mexico

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Hi All,

Who are the members in the OK Corral equine assisted group? I am
feeling less than "OK" because I have been unable to figure out how
to view all the previous messages.

I am from Albuquerque, NM, and currently working on an equine
assisted program on the To'Hajiilee Navajo Reservation in
conjunction with the University of New Mexico. I used to have my own
facility to work out of, horses and all, but now I work with other
people's horses and as a consultant.

I hear there is another member of OK Corral here in New Mexico. Who
are you? Where are you? Hopefully, we can figure out how to host an
OK Corral Event here in NM.

Hi Mr. DualKingBob, you seem to be a person of many words! I look
forward to hearing more (actually, it would be reading more)about
you and what you are doing.

Anne F. (you know who you are) are you a member of OKness? Your land
in Angel Fire awaits you.

Anyway, Hope to meet more of you soon,

Sally A. Carlon
505.681.3819

From: "dualkingbob" <bob@...>
Date: Fri Jun 2, 2006 8:20 pm
Subject: friday

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hello. I am glad to be a new member