Betsy,

I do understand the Equine Side of it as I am an
Equine Specialist my self. The woman I am speaking of
is not playing the role of Equine Specialist but as
Riding Instructor only, which are two seperate things
at our facility and probably at most if not all. As
the horse person believe me I am fully aware of the
differences in opinions as I believe we run into all
the time which is the way it should be as we need to
stay focused on our goals and always consider others
opinions. And yes I did ask her what she meant by what
she said as we as an organization and being the the
horse parts of the residential treatment facility we
want to work this out and try to understand each
person's perspective.

I am only recently since last May when I graduated
with my MSW degree, the therapist. My main concern at
this point is one, she came by and watched this
particular session, in secret as no one even knew she
was there, and did not come in to state her concerns
at the time. We have since requested that she come by
the arena to watch and discuss any of her concerns
which she has not done as yet, but hopefully she will.
We do want this to be a win/win for both programs.

Thank you for your feed back as it made me realize
that I thought I had explained things very well and
again see how communication is so important in what we
do.

Char Riale
--- Betsy Rice <inhishandsstables@...> wrote:

> Char,
>
> My take on this is a little different.You have
> been working with her in sessions for three months.
> My understanding is that this did not come up during
> a session but rather a training. Did you ask her
> what she meant by what she said? You will either
> trust her judgment as the Equine Specialist or
> not...I believe that is the issue at hand.
>
> Everyone's horsemanship journey is different. I'll
> compare it to dog ownership for clarity although it
> in no way is the same. Some dog owners allow their
> dogs on the furniture and some do not. Some people
> keep their horses in stalls all day except when
> taking them out to school them. Others think that is
> close to abuse considering it denies the horse the
> opportunity for social interactions, a more natural
> eating pattern and is better for their hooves. Some
> people pull to stop, others exhale and their horse
> stops. Others kick to go, others lift their energy.
> I'm saying this to show you that there is a wide
> range of horse handling methods used. Do you see the
> differences and how they would bring differences to
> the Equine Specialist role? I'm not as familiar with
> the therapeutic modalities but I know there are many
> and various. As Equine Specialists, we don't have
> the body of research behind our techniques.
>
> It would perhaps be helpful for the two of you to
> work with a horse together and allow her to show you
> the horse behavior aspects while you show her the
> therapy opportunities of the horse being a horse.
> The more training in this field each of you gets the
> clearer your role and the other person's role
> becomes. There are a myriad of methods that 'get the
> job done' in helping others, utilizing the unique
> abilities of the horse.
>
> Just my thoughts, take what you can use and leave
> the rest. :-)
> Betsy
>
> J_ranch2002 <jj_ranch2002@...> wrote:
> I would like to get some of you horse
> people out there who run riding
> lesson programs along with EAP programs. My question
> is do you use
> your horses that you use for riding lessons and also
> use them for
> EAP? Or do you have horses you use for riding
> lessons and seperate
> horses you use for EAP? And why??
>
> I have only been at my new job for 3 months. It is a
> residential
> program for kids and they have been doing EAP for 4
> years. They have
> a new horse person who is doing the riding lessons,
> she may have been
> there for a year or less. This person went to one of
> the trainings
> for OK Corral but did not like it and felt it was
> too hard on the
> horses. She observed an activity during one of the
> EAP sessions
> (using only the older mares who are no longer used
> for riding
> lessons) and observed a group of male adolescents
> using a piece of
> PVC pipe and a plastic milk crate to make noise to
> make the horses
> move (Lesson was Equine Billiards) She felt that the
> noise the boys
> made was too disturbing to use the lesson horses and
> that it would
> ruin them as they are younger horses and would react
> more to the
> noise.
>
> I am just wondering how other people see EAP used
> and if any of you
> feel there is any "damage" that might be done to
> lesson horses for
> riding and should not be used for EAP.
>
> Courious.........Char
>
>
>
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