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Anger "management" was Shields or just too good to be true?


Hey Don,

sorry for hijacking that thread earlier with my own concerns.

But I had a thought about what you said with things not being there.

Well they just aren't until they are, if you know what I mean.

These things are RESPONSES to outside stimuli, a kind of conjunction
between inside and out, and holds for the anger as well as for
everything else.

Which is why folk sit in monasteries and on mountain tops and THINK they
are completely healed because "all that stuff isn't there - it must have
gone! I must be completely enlightened! Whoohoo!"

This is also in action just about everywhere else. The other day we were
talking about pedophiles ALWAYS getting early parole - because of GOOD
BEHAVIOUR!

Well - duh! All the triggers that would bring out their Mr Hydes aren't
in the prison at all! There are no small children playing there - of
course, and all the other stuff is just unrelated, so they can be
wonderfully well behaved, work in the prison library with zeal and
they're "ever so nice and reliable".

Until you send them back into the field ...

In EmoTrance what can be done and what we used to do a lot of at the
beginning is to EVOKE the aspects/states so they WOULD be there for
treatment. That's much the same as the EFT opening statement's purpose -
to tune the person who is NOW sitting calmly and happily in the
therapist's office to THEN and THAT SORT of event that brings up the
responses.

"Hey! Idiot! Over here!"

Oooh ... :-)

But actually, you're right about wondering about a session with a good
practitioner. I think that would help a lot.

In the meantime, with the anger, how about having a go "in the field",
i.e. when you're really angry about something?

You could put on a TV channel or a show that really, but REALLY, gets
your goat and just sit there and track your kinaesthetics, your
feelings, where they start, how the thoughts you have are corresponding,
and just learn more about "how you do anger".

There's also one more thing about anger, emotrance and body sensations.

When you get to be INSIDE the state, i.e. the state is all there is, it
can often feel as though there was nothing going on at all, it's all
normal (that would be like a serial killer whistling happily as they
dismember their 11th victim in the basement with a chainsaw!).

With clients, you ask them were they feel it in their body, and right
inside the state, they might say, "It's everwhere!" or the converse
which is the same thing, "There isn't anything!"

A fish and water situation, if you will.

EmoTrance only works if there's a part of you remaining awake which can
both watch and evaluate the situation AND YOUR SELF, and give new
instructions.

That's the role of the practioner or ETP to be that to start with, then
the client learns to do it by and for themselves, at first in situations
that aren't too intense, but the talent for being meta to the whole
thing and calling a halt GROWS with practice, and amazingly so.

For example, in New York I was after some 20 hours of the most wearying
misery in a situation where I got very angry with a hotel manageress and
started to scream at her.

But even then there was a part of me awake and aware and took control of
it all; I didn't stop screaming but chose to continue in a screaming
pitch after that happened with, "Your customer services suck! Now here's
an upset customer who could be placated so easily - but you're not doing
it! Didn't they tell you how to handle tired and distraught guests at
manager school?!"

Then I started to laugh and just walked away, and got rid of the mad
anger buzzing in my body later on with a dose of Beloved Golden.

EmoTrance is a very interesting personal development device.

It starts with paying attention though, that's where it all begins.

At first we only notice the real biggies, stomach churning, head feels
as though it wants to explode and such. Like kiddies with big building
blocks. Then it gets finer, and finer, and that's where it becomes
really interesting.

But I digress.

I wrote an article about Anger Management and Ananga added a really
interesting meridian based article to this which might be of interest.

And here's another thought.

Do you have any family videos with you on them being critical?

Might be interesting to look at your body posture, hands, facial
expressions. They give perfect clues to energetic disturbances and just
where they are located.

Cheers,

SFX



Anger Management & Meridians Article:

http://theamt.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=265




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Greetings listers, I have been studying Silvia Hartmans writings now for over a year and have recently reviewed the Oceans of Energy for the second time. It's...
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Hi Don, I must say that it could be true. Something like this happened to me also. I was always a person who couldn't accept myself. I tried several things and...
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... From: emotrance2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emotrance2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of vinkie35 ... first day when Nicola trained us to be practitioners we did...
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For Silvia, Funny thing you should ask for Louise Hays words on sciatica, since I just looked them up myself earlier this morning as 2 people I know are having...
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Silvia, What you wrote down here is very true I think. Maybe there is something still in my enery matrix but it will come to surface when it is time to deal...
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From Annette Noontil's book 'the body is the barometer of the Soul' Sciatica - Disregarding your own wants therefore not communicating to yourself and others...
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Hi Silvia, Vinkie Et al, First of all thanks much for all the attentive thoughts.Its often hard to really put across the feelings that lay behind ones...
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Hello Don, Silvia, and all, Thank you very much for this interesting discussion! It is my personal belief that we always have parts of ourselves which can be...
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... in the ... thanks for posting that as it gives me a chance to air my pet theory of illness/therapy and the universe (culled from everyone else's theory and...
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Thanks Eifion! I am thinking it over! Liz ... De : emotrance2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emotrance2@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Eifion Envoyé : lundi 9 mai...
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... Hi Don, One thing I have learned from studying Marshall Rosenberg's Nonviolent Communication is that with anger there is often a "should" thought. In other...
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Hey Don, sorry for hijacking that thread earlier with my own concerns. But I had a thought about what you said with things not being there. Well they just...
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Hi Silvia and all, SF <starfields@...> wrote: Hey Don, sorry for hijacking that thread earlier with my own concerns. ... Hijack away please. I think...
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Hey Don¬! That's probably what I've been waiting for. When I talk to someone or I read what they've written, I get this real strong sensation, like being...
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Hi Silvia, Were on the exact same wavelength on this. But its a bit misleading I hate to say, about the lipbiting issue. I am not normally a 'keep it in at all...
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Kerri, Or anyone else in the group. I have been looking for Annette Noontils book, "The Bdoy is the Barometer of the Soul" for a long time. It is out of...
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Don - Start there! It is a Great Start. Get Radically Honest with Yourself No one else is watching or listening. It's okay. Don says, Regarding the Louise...
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Hi Sasha, And Don, I'd like to add, read "The Attractor Factor" by Dr. Joe Vitale for more ideas on how to get rid of the "bad" things we do to ourselves. ...
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