I am not discounting the discussion but this is a forum for nurses to
discuss emergency nursing issues. There are plenty other fora out there to
discuss
immunization concerns

Fenella
List Moderator

In a message dated 08/03/2008 18:04:13 GMT Standard Time,
sshane44@... writes:




Thank you, but to play devil's advocate for a moment, it is not a bad idea
to talk about it. I'm not sure this is the correct forum and I apologize
again for another email, but we don't know the situation of the person who
post the first email. It is not fair for every person to have reviewed the
literature on the subject and we have to remember that that is part of our
role as health care providers - to be approachable regarding complex issues,
open to their perspective and inform them with evidence-based knowledge. I
continue to learn about this particular issue because I do face patients who
are scared that vaccinating their child - and I don't blame them with the
mixed messages they receive. So, I apologize if my email was too strong, I
do believe it is critical we vaccinate our children and I continue to hope I
can convey that to my patients in an understanding and compassionate way.

Sorry for more emails, but I think it is a worthwhile discussion among
colleagues.
Have a good weekend
S

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Ok I have unsubbed them.!!

In a message dated 08/03/2008 17:44:30 GMT Standard Time,
sshane44@comcast. <mailto:sshane44%mailto:sshmai> net writes:

I agree. It is this type of ill-informed, emotional response that leads to
needless deaths of children from easily conquerable diseases. In addition,
people forget that is not just your own child you put at risk when you do
not vaccinate, you risk your community. An unvaccinated child can carry a
disease to an unprotected elderly person, or expose someone with a weak
immune system. Vaccinations are about protecting your child, your family
and your community.
CDC is just as engaged in trying to determine the cause of autism. There is
not a single study that can directly link vaccinations with autism. At best
it links the age of vaccinations to the time autism emerges. My young
cousin has autism. It has been difficult for the family and we know the
path ahead will be difficult for Adam.
I am bothered with such knee-jerk reactions as those below because it
attacks an organization of people who have dedicated their lives to save
children, to make our families safer. Dr. Gerberding is a motivational
force behind that dedication. Far better to join forces and work together
to find the cause of autism.

Sorry to fill you email boxes, but I just had to respond.

S

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Director's Resignation

Please do not fill my inbox with this stupid, ill informed nonsense. Where
is your research!! It is people like this who are going to kill kids when
they catch measels. Please read the reports and take your feelings out of
this.

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Resignation

fyi -- hmmmm, Paul McCarthy's wife:

03/07/2008
JENNY McCARTHY: JULIE GERBERDING MUST GO!
By Jenny McCarthy

I'm asking all parents and autism groups to join me in demanding
Julie Gerberding's immediate resignation as Director of the CDC.

On Monday, March 10th, beginning at 9:00am Eastern Daylight Time,
let's all start calling the White House and ask President Bush &
Laura Bush to demand Julie Gerberding's resignation for
incompetence during the autism epidemic. The White House switchboard
can be reached at:

202-456-1414

Also, on the same day, please call your local Congressperson and
Senators from your state and ask them to call for her resignation,
too.

Julie Gerberding has led the CDC for 6 years during a time when the
autism epidemic has only gotten worse. Despite tens of thousands of
children who declined just like Hannah Poling, Ms. Gerberding stood
before cameras yesterday defiant, cold, and defensive. Where is her
humanity in the face of such tragedy? Why couldn't she have
said, "We at CDC want to make sure what happened to Hannah doesn't
happen to any other children, we want to make vaccines safe"?

Rather than listen to the heartbreaking stories of so many parents,
you can be sure that Ms. Gerberding is spending her time right now
trying to get the Spin Machine up and running to minimize, confuse,
and deceive the American public.

The autism epidemic won't end until we fix the vaccine schedule by
reducing total vaccines, separating shots, waiting until our kids
are older to begin shots, greening our vaccines, and screening for
at-risk kids. Ms Gerberding has stood by and watched self-interested
parties more than triple our vaccine schedule and I'm certain her
inactivity to help our kids will continue.

The chances of Ms. Gerberding taking the radical steps to reform the
CDC and reform our vaccine schedule to make it kid-safe are zero! We
need a new CDC Director who is an open-minded reformer and who
recognizes that we are experiencing an epidemic of autism, which Ms.
Gerberding has never publicly admitted.

Please, parents and national autism organizations, let's all help
make our voices heard on Monday.

Thank you,

Jenny McCarthy

Jenny McCarthy is an actress, author and autism advocate.

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