> Anyone here have info on a listserve for colloidial
> silver takers? I have stil alot of fear about it--even
> though it seems to help my condition (interstitial
> cystitis with-lymph pain, joint pain, asthma, and
> candida...)I want to hear stories of how safe it is so
> I can have more confidence in using it.
> paula

The recent case with the politician turning
blue is the only time I have heard of someone
suffering this as a result of using
colloidal silver.  In the past, the only cases
were from people taking prescription
silver salt tablets.  I would guess that the
guy was making DC process type, but I'd
really like to know if he was adding a pinch
of salt or using spring water to speed the
process, like some silver makers suggest.
Serious researchers use only distilled water.

turf

Anyone here have info on a listserve for colloidial
silver takers? I have stil alot of fear about it--even
though it seems to help my condition (interstitial
cystitis with-lymph pain, joint pain, asthma, and
candida...)I want to hear stories of how safe it is so
I can have more confidence in using it.
paula

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Hi Ariella,

Thank you for confirming my suspicions about the Biotech 2000.

If what you are referring to by "the neck is out" is a subluxation in
the atlas/axis region of the cervical spine, I would agree that the
pressure from that on the area of the medulla oblongata area of the
spinal cord would have a contributing, adverse affect on many health
conditions. Besides the specialist in San Jose, Blair Specific
chiropractors specialize in addressing subluxation problems of the upper
cervical spine, and you can find their office locations by contacting
the Blair chiropractic society.

Ariella wrote:
>
> i've used the biotec briefly and really like it...i have a copy of a rather
complete instructional manual that could save a lot of 100$ an hour calls.
>   i would suggest you check whether your neck is out...contact me privately if
you would like more info...or you could call dr. canepa (in san jose, but you
only need to see him once or twice..)  408 244 6335...speak only to him (not
assistant if possible) and ask him if he has helped ms cases....if the neck is
out it would be the underlying cause, and  zapping the particular little
biesties in the area would only be a temporary cure....blessings   ariella
>
> willowrme@... wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 10/2/02 6:51:50 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > drostrander@... writes:
> >
> > > Subj:Re: [electroherbalism] Rife-type machines
> > > Date:10/2/02 6:51:50 PM Central Daylight Time
> > > From:    drostrander@... (David Ostrander)
> > > Reply-to:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> > > To:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > Yes David,  it is  the same unit...Only the name has been changed...I have
> > > one and got it from this source, accompanied by the Nina Silver handbook
of
> > > Rife Frequency Healing, which is a wonderful guide for all physical
> > > maladies..
> > >
> >
> > E. A.
> >
> > >
> > > There is a picture of the Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife machine on the
> > > megahealth 2000 website. The device looks exactly like a BioTech 2000,
> > > which as I understand, is not marketed anymore because of an FDA raid on
> > > the BioTech 2000 company. Does anyone on this list know if the Advanced
> > > Bio-Frequency Rife device is in actuality the BioTech 2000 unit with a
> > > different name being marketed by a new company?
> > >
> > > David Ostrander
> > >
> > > willowrme@... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 10/1/02 8:45:41 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > > > psayer@... writes:
> > > >
> > > > > Subj:[electroherbalism] Rife-type machines
> > > > > Date:10/1/02 8:45:41 AM Central Daylight Time
> > > > > From:    psayer@... (ptsayer)
> > > > > Reply-to:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > To:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi list. This is my first post. I have a question as to the
> > > > > effectiveness of each Rife machine , specifically for MS. I plan to
> > > > > buy a Rife machine soon, but which one? I am leaning towards a
> > > > > Biotech 2000 or an EMEM3D machine. Price considerations favour the
> > > > > EMEM, but is it effective for MS? Using Peter Walker's list of Rife
> > > > > machine makers lists the Biotech 2000 but not the ordering info. Does
> > > > > anyone have the ordering info, say for instance the webpage? Has
> > > > > anyone on the list had any experience with these machines, or any
> > > > > machine, for MS? I asked Dave Nelson but he is hazy. He thinks he has
> > > > > heard of someone with MS using the machines for MS..., but like I
> > > > > said he is hazy and will try to remember. Please answer soon! Pete
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > A GREAT MACHINE !!  E. A.
> > > >
> > > >  Also try Tharrels@... for info on good machines and info about
M
> > > S.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife...
> > > > Frequency healing system-
> > > > Introducing an extraordinary device-The Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife or
> > > ABFR,
> > > > A breakthrough in Rife frequency technology. Inspired by the proven
> > > > technology pioneered by Royal Rife, the ABFR brings Rife frequency
> > > > instrumentation into the 21st century.
> > > > Consisting of two separate devices, the ABFR and the ABFR Ray Tube, is
the
> > > > latest breakthrough in Rife Instrumentation. >
> > > > Rife therapy was developed over 70 years ago by renowned researcher
Royal
> > > > Rife. He showed in his experiments that certain frequencies could be
used
> > > to
> > > > destroy the pathogens of many different diseases. In one study he was
> > > given
> > > > 16 terminally ill cancer patients to treat. The results were astounding.
> > > In
> > > > between 90 and 120 days all of these hopeless cases survived and went
into
> > > > complete remission. Results of this type cannot be guaranteed in every
> > > case
> > > > but many patients have experienced major progress and relief after a
> > > regime
> > > > of Frequency Therapy.
> > > > ABFR Features and Capabilities:
> > > > In a major advance over other frequency devices, the ABFR has qualified
> > > for
> > > > UL listing.
> > > > The ability to raise and sustain a 60-volt output, without using a
> > > > transformer, a transformer cuts out the high harmonics that are so
> > > essential
> > > > to Rife technology.
> > > > Memorize your favorite sequences so you can automatically run them
> > > anytime.
> > > > Comes with hand cylinders, solid foot plates and self adhering,
re-usable
> > > > carbon electrodes as standard equipment.
> > > >
> > > > Gas Tube Technology
> > > > This state of the art instrument employs Gas Tube Technology. Glass
tubes
> > > are
> > > > evacuated of air, fire quenched, and are filled with a combination of
> > > noble
> > > > gases.
> > > > Radio Frequency energy ionizes the gases into a plasma state. The RF
> > > energy
> > > > passes through the glass and penetrates every cell of the body.
> > > > The RF energy is produced by an electronic circuit that derives its
signal
> > > > from a pulse repetition rate in the audio frequency spectrum. This pulse
> > > rate
> > > > has been proven over a long period of time to be of benefit to the human
> > > > body, as a form of energy, much like normal exercise.
> > > > A manual with frequencies for all major conditions is included.
> > > > <A HREF="http://www.megahealth2000.com/html/rife_info.html">More info on
The ABFR</A>
> > > >
> > > >    The ABFR Frequency Healing System...$2,895.00
> > > > Call (888)791-2178 for wholesale pricing.
> > > >
> > > >    Have questions about how to use your
> > > >    ABFR system, we provide operational and technical support*.
> > > >    Call: (310) 358-0210 9am to 6pm PST
> > > >
> > > > A 4 hour instructional video on proper rife protocol is available for
> > > > additional $150
> > > >
> > > > *Phone consultations billed in 15 minute increments @ $100.00/hour.
> > > >
> > > > <A HREF="http://www.megahealth2000.com/html/contact.html">PURCHASE
INFO</A>
> > > >
> > > > <A HREF="http://www.megahealth2000.com/html/systems.html">BACK TO
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i've used the biotec briefly and really like it...i have a copy of a rather
complete instructional manual that could save a lot of 100$ an hour calls.
   i would suggest you check whether your neck is out...contact me privately if
you would like more info...or you could call dr. canepa (in san jose, but you
only need to see him once or twice..)  408 244 6335...speak only to him (not
assistant if possible) and ask him if he has helped ms cases....if the neck is
out it would be the underlying cause, and  zapping the particular little
biesties in the area would only be a temporary cure....blessings   ariella

willowrme@... wrote:

> In a message dated 10/2/02 6:51:50 PM Central Daylight Time,
> drostrander@... writes:
>
> > Subj:Re: [electroherbalism] Rife-type machines
> > Date:10/2/02 6:51:50 PM Central Daylight Time
> > From:    drostrander@... (David Ostrander)
> > Reply-to:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> > To:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Yes David,  it is  the same unit...Only the name has been changed...I have
> > one and got it from this source, accompanied by the Nina Silver handbook of
> > Rife Frequency Healing, which is a wonderful guide for all physical
> > maladies..
> >
>
> E. A.
>
> >
> > There is a picture of the Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife machine on the
> > megahealth 2000 website. The device looks exactly like a BioTech 2000,
> > which as I understand, is not marketed anymore because of an FDA raid on
> > the BioTech 2000 company. Does anyone on this list know if the Advanced
> > Bio-Frequency Rife device is in actuality the BioTech 2000 unit with a
> > different name being marketed by a new company?
> >
> > David Ostrander
> >
> > willowrme@... wrote:
> > >
> > > In a message dated 10/1/02 8:45:41 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > > psayer@... writes:
> > >
> > > > Subj:[electroherbalism] Rife-type machines
> > > > Date:10/1/02 8:45:41 AM Central Daylight Time
> > > > From:    psayer@... (ptsayer)
> > > > Reply-to:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> > > > To:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi list. This is my first post. I have a question as to the
> > > > effectiveness of each Rife machine , specifically for MS. I plan to
> > > > buy a Rife machine soon, but which one? I am leaning towards a
> > > > Biotech 2000 or an EMEM3D machine. Price considerations favour the
> > > > EMEM, but is it effective for MS? Using Peter Walker's list of Rife
> > > > machine makers lists the Biotech 2000 but not the ordering info. Does
> > > > anyone have the ordering info, say for instance the webpage? Has
> > > > anyone on the list had any experience with these machines, or any
> > > > machine, for MS? I asked Dave Nelson but he is hazy. He thinks he has
> > > > heard of someone with MS using the machines for MS..., but like I
> > > > said he is hazy and will try to remember. Please answer soon! Pete
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A GREAT MACHINE !!  E. A.
> > >
> > >  Also try Tharrels@... for info on good machines and info about M
> > S.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife...
> > > Frequency healing system-
> > > Introducing an extraordinary device-The Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife or
> > ABFR,
> > > A breakthrough in Rife frequency technology. Inspired by the proven
> > > technology pioneered by Royal Rife, the ABFR brings Rife frequency
> > > instrumentation into the 21st century.
> > > Consisting of two separate devices, the ABFR and the ABFR Ray Tube, is the
> > > latest breakthrough in Rife Instrumentation. >
> > > Rife therapy was developed over 70 years ago by renowned researcher Royal
> > > Rife. He showed in his experiments that certain frequencies could be used
> > to
> > > destroy the pathogens of many different diseases. In one study he was
> > given
> > > 16 terminally ill cancer patients to treat. The results were astounding.
> > In
> > > between 90 and 120 days all of these hopeless cases survived and went into
> > > complete remission. Results of this type cannot be guaranteed in every
> > case
> > > but many patients have experienced major progress and relief after a
> > regime
> > > of Frequency Therapy.
> > > ABFR Features and Capabilities:
> > > In a major advance over other frequency devices, the ABFR has qualified
> > for
> > > UL listing.
> > > The ability to raise and sustain a 60-volt output, without using a
> > > transformer, a transformer cuts out the high harmonics that are so
> > essential
> > > to Rife technology.
> > > Memorize your favorite sequences so you can automatically run them
> > anytime.
> > > Comes with hand cylinders, solid foot plates and self adhering, re-usable
> > > carbon electrodes as standard equipment.
> > >
> > > Gas Tube Technology
> > > This state of the art instrument employs Gas Tube Technology. Glass tubes
> > are
> > > evacuated of air, fire quenched, and are filled with a combination of
> > noble
> > > gases.
> > > Radio Frequency energy ionizes the gases into a plasma state. The RF
> > energy
> > > passes through the glass and penetrates every cell of the body.
> > > The RF energy is produced by an electronic circuit that derives its signal
> > > from a pulse repetition rate in the audio frequency spectrum. This pulse
> > rate
> > > has been proven over a long period of time to be of benefit to the human
> > > body, as a form of energy, much like normal exercise.
> > > A manual with frequencies for all major conditions is included.
> > > <A HREF="http://www.megahealth2000.com/html/rife_info.html">More info on
The ABFR</A>
> > >
> > >    The ABFR Frequency Healing System...$2,895.00
> > > Call (888)791-2178 for wholesale pricing.
> > >
> > >    Have questions about how to use your
> > >    ABFR system, we provide operational and technical support*.
> > >    Call: (310) 358-0210 9am to 6pm PST
> > >
> > > A 4 hour instructional video on proper rife protocol is available for
> > > additional $150
> > >
> > > *Phone consultations billed in 15 minute increments @ $100.00/hour.
> > >
> > > <A HREF="http://www.megahealth2000.com/html/contact.html">PURCHASE
INFO</A>
> > >
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At 05:41 PM 29/09/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>There has been a strong connection between Alzheimer's disease and vitamin
>B-12 deficiency. We know that vitamin B-12 is found almost exclusively in
>meat and the Atkins high protein diet would be better for older people to
>prevent Alzheimer's disease. Older people generally reduce their meat
>intake, especially women. Check out Dr. Mercola's web page at:
>
>http://www.mercola.com/2001/may/19/alzheimers.htm

Hi Kent,

Here is an interesting methodology of dealing with and checking Vitamin B12
deficiency. This method uses DMSO to absorb, of the shelf, B12 form health
food stores into the body. See

http://www.krysalis.net/b12.htm

Chris Gupta

Lysine and The Pauling Therapy - Book

Vitamin C, Lysine and "Lysine Analogs" are Supported by U. S. Patent to
Reverse Atherosclerotic Plaque
Build-ups in Organs and Arteries caused by Lipoprotein-(a). (U. S. Patents
# 5,230,996 and # 5,278,189)

http://www.paulingtherapy.com/book.html


Diabetes - Canola - Hydrogenated Oils -The Silent Killers

"In addition, a recent report from the EPA (1998) states that they have
classified canola oil as a biopesticide which ..."has low chronic
toxicities". Further, they say that no studies have been done regarding
toxic effects on Humans. The fact that they state that it is a pesticide
and that there have been no studies, plus the fact it is a GM food, says to
us it is something to stay away from! It is like so many other things
"they" say are good for us like fluoride, canola oil and fluoride both
accumulate and build up in the Human systems."

How Do Trans Fatty Acids Cause Non-Insulin Diabetes?

The body makes protein from normal amino acids. Normal meaning amino acids
which the body is genetically used to. Properly structured protein is
needed for insulin to be effective in reducing sugar in the blood. Protein
is also derived from fats. By consuming abnormally changed molecular
essential fatty acids, abnormal proteins are produced by the body. The
abnormal proteins cannot properly synthesize the insulin in its' metabolic
state. The insulin eventually becomes ineffective in reducing sugar in the
blood stream. Hyperinsuliemia is the end result. The body then starts
producing more and more insulin to control sugar while at the same time
becoming more ineffective in controlling blood sugar. This has been
directly linked concerning prostaglandins. Prostaglandins are made from
essential fatty acids. Research by researchers at the Division of Science,
Northeast Missouri State University have shown that the central mechanism
for pancreatic insulin production is mediated by prostaglandins. It is not
an autonomic response as once thought. Autonomic means that which a normal
body responds to or makes. These findings have been confirmed by other
research studies in Germany, the Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston and
by about half a dozen other researchers. Included in some of this research
are in-depth studies of the roles of properly naturally occurring
structured essential fatty acids and how they inter-relate in making not
only the correct amount of insulin, but most importantly its' effectiveness
in the bloodstream in reducing blood sugar. Dr. Holman and his colleagues
at the Hormel Institute at the University of Minnesota have shown that
trans- fatty acids disrupt cellular function. They affect many enzymes such
as the delta-6 desaturase and consequently interfere with the necessary
conversions of both the omega-6 and the omega-3 essential fatty acids to
their elongated forms. They consequently escalate the adverse effects of
essential fatty acid deficiency. Dr. Lenore Kohlmeier in Finland completed
a study on 700 women, (300 of them had breast cancer). The study included
the analysis of the tissue fat cells of the women. Dr. Kohlmeier issued
this statement, "women who have higher stores of trans fatty acids have a
1.4 times, ( approximately 55%) higher risk of developing breast cancer."
Additional work by several researchers have also shown that trans fatty
acids produced in the hydrogenation of oils process are the culprits. This
is why in the 1940's when non insulin type II diabetes started to appear
that the medical community was dumbfounded to what was causing it."

Strongly suggest you go to the following web site for more on this subject:

http://www.dldewey.com/hydroil.htm

This is an extensive web site with tons of research on the subject. Part 2
of the discussion is at:

http://www.dldewey.com/columns/hydroi2f.htm

Flax seeds:

http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/24/flaxseed.htm

Other information on Oils:

For more on this see:

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/OilingAmerica.1.html
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/OilingAmerica.2.html
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/Canola.html


The following is a must read it should be one of the most beneficial
dietary change that one should make.

http://www.efn.org/~raypeat/coconut.rtf

THE HEALTH BENEFITS OF COCONUT MILK AND OILS - Part 1, Part 2 - by Mary
Enig PhD.

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/coconuts.html
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/coconuts2.html

ON THE EFFECTS OF COCONUT OIL ON SERUM CHOLESTEROL LEVELS AND HDLs

http://www.execpc.com/~keephope/report14.html

This begins about 1/8th down the article.


Chris Gupta

In a message dated 10/2/02 6:51:50 PM Central Daylight Time,
drostrander@... writes:


> Subj:Re: [electroherbalism] Rife-type machines
> Date:10/2/02 6:51:50 PM Central Daylight Time
> From:    drostrander@... (David Ostrander)
> Reply-to:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> To:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
>
> Yes David,  it is  the same unit...Only the name has been changed...I have
> one and got it from this source, accompanied by the Nina Silver handbook of
> Rife Frequency Healing, which is a wonderful guide for all physical
> maladies..
>


E. A.

>
> There is a picture of the Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife machine on the
> megahealth 2000 website. The device looks exactly like a BioTech 2000,
> which as I understand, is not marketed anymore because of an FDA raid on
> the BioTech 2000 company. Does anyone on this list know if the Advanced
> Bio-Frequency Rife device is in actuality the BioTech 2000 unit with a
> different name being marketed by a new company?
>
> David Ostrander
>
> willowrme@... wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 10/1/02 8:45:41 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > psayer@... writes:
> >
> > > Subj:[electroherbalism] Rife-type machines
> > > Date:10/1/02 8:45:41 AM Central Daylight Time
> > > From:    psayer@... (ptsayer)
> > > Reply-to:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> > > To:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi list. This is my first post. I have a question as to the
> > > effectiveness of each Rife machine , specifically for MS. I plan to
> > > buy a Rife machine soon, but which one? I am leaning towards a
> > > Biotech 2000 or an EMEM3D machine. Price considerations favour the
> > > EMEM, but is it effective for MS? Using Peter Walker's list of Rife
> > > machine makers lists the Biotech 2000 but not the ordering info. Does
> > > anyone have the ordering info, say for instance the webpage? Has
> > > anyone on the list had any experience with these machines, or any
> > > machine, for MS? I asked Dave Nelson but he is hazy. He thinks he has
> > > heard of someone with MS using the machines for MS..., but like I
> > > said he is hazy and will try to remember. Please answer soon! Pete
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A GREAT MACHINE !!  E. A.
> >
> >  Also try Tharrels@... for info on good machines and info about M
> S.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife...
> > Frequency healing system-
> > Introducing an extraordinary device-The Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife or
> ABFR,
> > A breakthrough in Rife frequency technology. Inspired by the proven
> > technology pioneered by Royal Rife, the ABFR brings Rife frequency
> > instrumentation into the 21st century.
> > Consisting of two separate devices, the ABFR and the ABFR Ray Tube, is the
> > latest breakthrough in Rife Instrumentation. >
> > Rife therapy was developed over 70 years ago by renowned researcher Royal
> > Rife. He showed in his experiments that certain frequencies could be used
> to
> > destroy the pathogens of many different diseases. In one study he was
> given
> > 16 terminally ill cancer patients to treat. The results were astounding.
> In
> > between 90 and 120 days all of these hopeless cases survived and went into
> > complete remission. Results of this type cannot be guaranteed in every
> case
> > but many patients have experienced major progress and relief after a
> regime
> > of Frequency Therapy.
> > ABFR Features and Capabilities:
> > In a major advance over other frequency devices, the ABFR has qualified
> for
> > UL listing.
> > The ability to raise and sustain a 60-volt output, without using a
> > transformer, a transformer cuts out the high harmonics that are so
> essential
> > to Rife technology.
> > Memorize your favorite sequences so you can automatically run them
> anytime.
> > Comes with hand cylinders, solid foot plates and self adhering, re-usable
> > carbon electrodes as standard equipment.
> >
> > Gas Tube Technology
> > This state of the art instrument employs Gas Tube Technology. Glass tubes
> are
> > evacuated of air, fire quenched, and are filled with a combination of
> noble
> > gases.
> > Radio Frequency energy ionizes the gases into a plasma state. The RF
> energy
> > passes through the glass and penetrates every cell of the body.
> > The RF energy is produced by an electronic circuit that derives its signal
> > from a pulse repetition rate in the audio frequency spectrum. This pulse
> rate
> > has been proven over a long period of time to be of benefit to the human
> > body, as a form of energy, much like normal exercise.
> > A manual with frequencies for all major conditions is included.
> > <A HREF="http://www.megahealth2000.com/html/rife_info.html">More info on The
ABFR</A>
> >
> >    The ABFR Frequency Healing System...$2,895.00
> > Call (888)791-2178 for wholesale pricing.
> >
> >    Have questions about how to use your
> >    ABFR system, we provide operational and technical support*.
> >    Call: (310) 358-0210 9am to 6pm PST
> >
> > A 4 hour instructional video on proper rife protocol is available for
> > additional $150
> >
> > *Phone consultations billed in 15 minute increments @ $100.00/hour.
> >
> > <A HREF="http://www.megahealth2000.com/html/contact.html">PURCHASE INFO</A>
> >
> > <A HREF="http://www.megahealth2000.com/html/systems.html">BACK TO HEALING
SYSTEMS</A>
> >
> > <A HREF="http://www.megahealth2000.com/index.html">Home</A>   <A
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> First of all, just mentioning the Rife-Bare generator seems to
imply there are no other forms of Rife device. In fact, there are
many including officially certified devices (in countries outside
the USA).

That is true.  I should have been more
inclusive.  Sorry.

I have added the following to the newly revised
version.

> How about adding:
>
> For detailed independent reviews and discussion of a (expanding)
range of Rive devices, see the relevant sections in The Rife Forum
> http://www.rifeforum.com (registration required)
>
> and ...
>
> To read about modern Rife developments in Europe and the rest of
the world, visit Peter Walker's "Rife Information Forum, Europe" web
site at
> http://www.rife.de

turf

In a message dated 10/3/02 7:50:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
drostrander@... writes:


> Subj:Re: [electroherbalism] Rife-type machines
> Date:10/3/02 7:50:19 PM Central Daylight Time
> From:    drostrander@... (David Ostrander)
> Reply-to:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> To:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
>
> When I received my BT 2000 from Megahealth they sent along "The Handbook of
> Rife Frequency Healing" by Nina Silver...As you assumed, YES, the BT2000
> and the one shown is one and the same, only a change in the name on the
> fromt of the units..
>
>
> Yes, that is the case. I received a reply from the megahealth website
> confirming it. So, the old Biotech 2000 is still available under the new
> name.
>
> Brian McInturff wrote:
> >
> > > There is a picture of the Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife machine on the
> > > megahealth 2000 website. The device looks exactly like a BioTech 2000,
> >
> > If they look exactly the same, there is a very good chance it is the same
> > device.
> >
> > > > *Phone consultations billed in 15 minute increments @ $100.00/hour.
> >
> > That's pretty expensive user support.
> >
> > turf
> >
> >
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Hi,
I have some comments to make on "turf's FAQ"

> There are two major forums where people discuss
> use of the Rife-Bare Generator.  One is the
> Rife Forum at http://www.rifeforum.com
> It includes categories for many aspects of rifing as
> well as different components and off topics.

First of all, just mentioning the Rife-Bare generator seems to imply there are
no other forms of Rife device. In fact, there are many including officially
certified devices (in countries outside the USA).

The Rife Forum is open for a wide range of discussion including history,
microscopes, frequencies, conferences, treatment of diseases, ALL kinds of Rife
devices, technical discussions, beginners questions, alternative health and even
off topic discussion, etc. in an organised, professional and easy to access
manner and is free of advertising, pop-ups, etc.

The rife@yahoogroups.com list ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rife/ ) is also
still active and will remain active so that users can continue to access the 3
years of messages in the archives. I am still considering the future use of the
Rife@Yahoogroups list and will decide this later this month. People are still
posting there, although I am encouraging the members to join The Rife Forum at
http://www.rifeforum.com


> For information on James Bare's modern
> incarnation of the Rife generator and to buy
> a construction manual see his web site at
> http://www.rifetechnologies.com/

Again, this suggests that there is only the James Bare method. I have nothing
against Jim's work, it is however short sighted to ignore everything else!

> For a short overview on many alternative bioelectrical devices,
> see "Zappers and Other Gizmos" in the "Healing with
> Electronics" section at Richard Loyd's website
> http://www.royalrife.com/

How about adding:

For detailed independent reviews and discussion of a (expanding) range of Rive
devices, see the relevant sections in The Rife Forum
http://www.rifeforum.com (registration required)

and ...

To read about modern Rife developments in Europe and the rest of the world,
visit Peter Walker's "Rife Information Forum, Europe" web site at
http://www.rife.de

Regards

Peter Walker
http://www.rife.de
http://www.rifeforum.com

Yes, that is the case. I received a reply from the megahealth website
confirming it. So, the old Biotech 2000 is still available under the new
name.

Brian McInturff wrote:
>
> > There is a picture of the Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife machine on the
> > megahealth 2000 website. The device looks exactly like a BioTech 2000,
>
> If they look exactly the same, there is a very good chance it is the same
> device.
>
> > > *Phone consultations billed in 15 minute increments @ $100.00/hour.
>
> That's pretty expensive user support.
>
> turf
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> electroherbalism-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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>
>
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> There is a picture of the Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife machine on the
> megahealth 2000 website. The device looks exactly like a BioTech 2000,

If they look exactly the same, there is a very good chance it is the same
device.

> > *Phone consultations billed in 15 minute increments @ $100.00/hour.

That's pretty expensive user support.

turf

There is a picture of the Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife machine on the
megahealth 2000 website. The device looks exactly like a BioTech 2000,
which as I understand, is not marketed anymore because of an FDA raid on
the BioTech 2000 company. Does anyone on this list know if the Advanced
Bio-Frequency Rife device is in actuality the BioTech 2000 unit with a
different name being marketed by a new company?

David Ostrander

willowrme@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 10/1/02 8:45:41 AM Central Daylight Time,
> psayer@... writes:
>
> > Subj:[electroherbalism] Rife-type machines
> > Date:10/1/02 8:45:41 AM Central Daylight Time
> > From:    psayer@... (ptsayer)
> > Reply-to:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> > To:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi list. This is my first post. I have a question as to the
> > effectiveness of each Rife machine , specifically for MS. I plan to
> > buy a Rife machine soon, but which one? I am leaning towards a
> > Biotech 2000 or an EMEM3D machine. Price considerations favour the
> > EMEM, but is it effective for MS? Using Peter Walker's list of Rife
> > machine makers lists the Biotech 2000 but not the ordering info. Does
> > anyone have the ordering info, say for instance the webpage? Has
> > anyone on the list had any experience with these machines, or any
> > machine, for MS? I asked Dave Nelson but he is hazy. He thinks he has
> > heard of someone with MS using the machines for MS..., but like I
> > said he is hazy and will try to remember. Please answer soon! Pete
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A GREAT MACHINE !!  E. A.
>
>  Also try Tharrels@... for info on good machines and info about M S.
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
> Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife...
> Frequency healing system-
> Introducing an extraordinary device-The Advanced Bio-Frequency Rife or ABFR,
> A breakthrough in Rife frequency technology. Inspired by the proven
> technology pioneered by Royal Rife, the ABFR brings Rife frequency
> instrumentation into the 21st century.
> Consisting of two separate devices, the ABFR and the ABFR Ray Tube, is the
> latest breakthrough in Rife Instrumentation. >
> Rife therapy was developed over 70 years ago by renowned researcher Royal
> Rife. He showed in his experiments that certain frequencies could be used to
> destroy the pathogens of many different diseases. In one study he was given
> 16 terminally ill cancer patients to treat. The results were astounding. In
> between 90 and 120 days all of these hopeless cases survived and went into
> complete remission. Results of this type cannot be guaranteed in every case
> but many patients have experienced major progress and relief after a regime
> of Frequency Therapy.
> ABFR Features and Capabilities:
> In a major advance over other frequency devices, the ABFR has qualified for
> UL listing.
> The ability to raise and sustain a 60-volt output, without using a
> transformer, a transformer cuts out the high harmonics that are so essential
> to Rife technology.
> Memorize your favorite sequences so you can automatically run them anytime.
> Comes with hand cylinders, solid foot plates and self adhering, re-usable
> carbon electrodes as standard equipment.
>
> Gas Tube Technology
> This state of the art instrument employs Gas Tube Technology. Glass tubes are
> evacuated of air, fire quenched, and are filled with a combination of noble
> gases.
> Radio Frequency energy ionizes the gases into a plasma state. The RF energy
> passes through the glass and penetrates every cell of the body.
> The RF energy is produced by an electronic circuit that derives its signal
> from a pulse repetition rate in the audio frequency spectrum. This pulse rate
> has been proven over a long period of time to be of benefit to the human
> body, as a form of energy, much like normal exercise.
> A manual with frequencies for all major conditions is included.
> <A HREF="http://www.megahealth2000.com/html/rife_info.html">More info on The
ABFR</A>
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>    Call: (310) 358-0210 9am to 6pm PST
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RIFE lists FAQ   v021002

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There are two major forums where people discuss
use of the Rife-Bare Generator.  One is the Rife
Forum at http://www.rifeforum.com/.  It includes
categories for many aspects of rifing as well as
different components and off topics.  Another is
the Rifers listserver. Subscribe by sending an email
to rifers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com or by visiting
www.yahoogroups.com   It does not allow off topic
posts, and has been pretty slow lately. The new
Electroherbalism listserver is for discussion of
rife bare and other bioelectronics  plus
complementary therapies and allows off topics.
Subscribe by sending an email to
eletroherbalism-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
or by visiting www.yahoogroups.com.

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For information on James Bare's modern incarnation
of the Rife generator and to buy a construction
manual see his web site at
http://www.rifetechnologies.com/

For historical accounts of Rife's research and
other info, use a Java-enabled browser for Stan
Truman's website at http://www.rife.org/

Many people read Barry Lynes' book called "The
Cancer Cure that Worked" when researching Rife.
It and his latest work are available at
http://www.barrylynes.com

Other rife related books are Fred Farly's "Royal
Raymond Rife, Humanitarian, Betrayed & Persecuted"
from http://www.rtplasmapub.com and Nina Silver's
"The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing"
http://healingheart-harmonics.com

For theories on how some bioelectrical devices may
work see "Electrical and Frequency Effects on
Pathogens" in the "Bioelectronics/Introduction to
Bioelectronics" section at
http://www.electroherbalism.com/   Also available
on the website in the "Bioelectronics/Rife Bare /
Introduction to Rife Bare" section is the article
"Introduction to Rife Bare" plus Recommendations
for those who want to explore bioelectronics.

For a short overview on many alternative
bioelectrical devices, see "Zappers and Other
Gizmos" in the "Healing with Electronics" section
at Richard Loyd's website
http://www.royalrife.com/

Don Tunney started Rife Technology Inc. It was the
most popular manufacturer of complete Rife-Bare
devices, but as of July 2002, they have been
ordered to stop selling them.  They are still able
to sell the premodified and specialty components
to make building them oneself much easier:
http://www.rifetechnology.com/

Dave Trebing's Vibrant Health offers complete
Rife- Bare units
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~vibrnthealth/

For frequency lists for Rife-Bare or other
frequency devices, including the Consolidated
Annotated Frequency List (CAFL) which is the most
popular "master list" for rife researchers, see
http://www.electroherbalism.com The
"Bioelectronics/Frequencies and Anecdotes" section
also contains the "Non-Consolidated Frequency
List", plus a Frequency Cross Reference, Reports,
and Anecdotes.

Bruce Stenulson's site at
http://shell.amigo.net/~stenulson/althealth/ is
mostly concerned with EMEM and pad devices.  It
includes a large file of user anecdotes and some
frequency lists.

To access the Rife Research Ring for more rife-
related sites, go to
http://o.webring.com/hub?ring=rifebiomed&id=1&hub

This is an updated article from my website I will
occasionally run for newbies who join the list.
It is in the "Bioelectronics / Rife Bare / Introduction
to Rife Bare" section of www.electroherbalism.com
Royal Rife was a scientist who developed and tested most of his inventions in
the early to mid part of the 1900's.   He
was persecuted for his work, his lab burned down, and most of his notes
destroyed.  However, there were some that
survived.  The story of Rife's inventions and legal troubles is detailed in the
Barry Lynes' book called The Cancer Cure
that Worked and in the short article Morris Fishbein.  Stan Truman's and other
websites have historic papers and some
videos of Rife.  There is more information on these topics in the Rife Bare
Links.

The Rife Bare device was invented by James Bare after studying Royal Rife's
work.  Bare's Rife generator may produce
some of the same beneficial effects of the original Rife device using modern
electronic components.  It may or may not
be as effective as the original.  It uses audio frequencies like many
bioelectronic devices do, but instead of just
holding onto the outputs of a function generator or other pad device, the audio
frequencies are combined with a radio
frequency (RF) carrier signal and is amplified then output to a "plasma tube"
which is a sealed glass tube usually
filled with mostly argon and some neon gas.  This tube emits "the beam" and
cannot be touched since it will cause RF
burns.

Although some high powered devices with large tubes can radiate the beam for a
hundred or more feet, it is generally
recommended to sit closer to the device, some say as little as 3 to 6 feet, for
the greatest effects.  One should not
sit very close (less than 3 feet) to an operating tube for a long time due to
the RF effects, but it is generally safe
in this respect since holding one's head at 18 inches from the tube is the RF
equivalent of using a cellular phone.

Many people build their own devices using the instruction manual James Bare
sells on his website and usually with some
help from the friendly folks on the rife listservers.  Some buy the device from
one of the main two manufacturers of
them, RifeTechnology Inc, who sells the most, or Vibrant Health, a.k.a Dave's
Electronics. See the Links section.
Building one can cost in the $1500 or more range if a nice programmable function
generator is used.  Buying them already
constructed and tested starts around $3000 (prices at the start of 2002).   {Oct
2002 note: Rife Technology is no longer
allowed to sell devices the those in the US.  They still sell the premodified
components for making construction much
easier, though.}

Using the correct frequencies is the key to success with the devices.  The
"master list"  is called the Consolidated
Annotated Frequency List, or CAFL.  It is probably the most-used resource for
frequency researchers.
www.electroherbalism.com is the keeper of the CAFL and it is available on this
website in the Frequencies and Anecdotes
section.  Many if not most of the frequencies in the CAFL are not well tested,
though.  There is no guarantee of any
beneficial effects in using them.   If frequency sets are being run and are not
effective many people resort to using
scans, running sets where the frequency slowly changes, to see if any good
frequencies can be found.

Some people can feel "hits" when the device is being used, usually within a few
seconds after a new frequency starts
running, but sometimes longer.  These can occur when a targeted organism or
cells cause enough stimulation of nearby
muscles or nerves to be felt.  It usually feels like a pulsing, itching,
tingling, or tickling.  Some people feel no
hits, even when target frequencies are being used and providing benefit.  Some
people feel lots of hits even when a
session provides no apparent benefit.  Feeling hits is useful since the
frequencies which produced them can then be run
more often or for extended periods until they are no longer felt.

Detox issues are important when rifing.  Detox reactions can occur when the
kidneys,  liver, blood, and lymph are
overloaded by processing too much cellular debris after a rife session or any
other antiseptic regimen.   Common terms
to describe it are "flu-like" and "brain-fog."  Lymph nodes may also swell.  
Rifing should never be done if there are
still detox symptoms from the last session.  If detox is not handled properly,
sessions may not be able to be run as
often as is necessary to control the problem, in which case all is for nought,
so it can be essential.  The best single
treatment to prevent or treat a detox reaction is The Water Cure.  There is also
a detailed protocol for it in the
Regimens section if even more effect is needed.

Some make the mistake of using only bioelectronics for problems which would be
best treated by cleansing, nutritional,
or other naturopathic regimens.  This is discussed further in the short
Bioelectronics article in the Naturopathy
Therapies section.

There are many products out there that call themselves "Rife" devices.  To most
of the serious users and researchers, it
is generally an insult to call a plain function generator a "Rife device" but it
is frequently done.   Some of them are
just programmable function generator pad devices which don't even let unique
frequencies be run, nor display the actual
frequencies, and instead use "codes."   What's worse, some of these crippled
function generators cost in the $2000 and
up range, but they make up for it by making claims like that theirs is the one
"true" rife device <g>.   There are good
programmable function generators that can be used as pad devices in the $500 to
700 range, and have the benefit of being
able to be used in a Rife Bare or other plasma tube device if it is later
decided to upgrade.

In a message dated 10/1/02 8:45:41 AM Central Daylight Time,
psayer@... writes:


> Subj:[electroherbalism] Rife-type machines
> Date:10/1/02 8:45:41 AM Central Daylight Time
> From:    psayer@... (ptsayer)
> Reply-to:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
> To:    electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
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> Hi list. This is my first post. I have a question as to the
> effectiveness of each Rife machine , specifically for MS. I plan to
> buy a Rife machine soon, but which one? I am leaning towards a
> Biotech 2000 or an EMEM3D machine. Price considerations favour the
> EMEM, but is it effective for MS? Using Peter Walker's list of Rife
> machine makers lists the Biotech 2000 but not the ordering info. Does
> anyone have the ordering info, say for instance the webpage? Has
> anyone on the list had any experience with these machines, or any
> machine, for MS? I asked Dave Nelson but he is hazy. He thinks he has
> heard of someone with MS using the machines for MS..., but like I
> said he is hazy and will try to remember. Please answer soon! Pete
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> A GREAT MACHINE !!  E. A.

  Also try Tharrels@... for info on good machines and info about M S.

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ABFR Features and Capabilities:
In a major advance over other frequency devices, the ABFR has qualified for
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The ability to raise and sustain a 60-volt output, without using a
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to Rife technology.
Memorize your favorite sequences so you can automatically run them anytime.
Comes with hand cylinders, solid foot plates and self adhering, re-usable
carbon electrodes as standard equipment.

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This state of the art instrument employs Gas Tube Technology. Glass tubes are
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The RF energy is produced by an electronic circuit that derives its signal
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has been proven over a long period of time to be of benefit to the human
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Hi list. This is my first post. I have a question as to the
effectiveness of each Rife machine , specifically for MS. I plan to
buy a Rife machine soon, but which one? I am leaning towards a
Biotech 2000 or an EMEM3D machine. Price considerations favour the
EMEM, but is it effective for MS? Using Peter Walker's list of Rife
machine makers lists the Biotech 2000 but not the ordering info. Does
anyone have the ordering info, say for instance the webpage? Has
anyone on the list had any experience with these machines, or any
machine, for MS? I asked Dave Nelson but he is hazy. He thinks he has
heard of someone with MS using the machines for MS..., but like I
said he is hazy and will try to remember. Please answer soon! Pete

Turf--

I have to dig it up somewhere, but have you ever seen
the paper on the origins of fluoridation as being an
outgrowth, or more precisely, a cover-up for a
catastrophic fluorine gas accident at an atomic
weapons plant in rural New Jersey during the Manhattan
Project?

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Subject: Adding fluoride to water


Something I have never seen mentioned
regarding adding flouride to the water :

I have read that what gave some people
the initial idea that flouride was helpful
to prevent tooth decay was a now 50 or more
year-old analysis of well water among people
who had little decay.  They surmised
it was the flouride content of the water
offering the protection.

However,
if well water has higher flouride content,
it is likely to have higher content of
other minerals as well, like calcium,
magnesium, and trace minerals, plus the
flouride would likely be in the least toxic
form, too - calcium flouride.  They
could easily ignore this fact and write a
study implying it was the flouride providing
the benefit, if the study was to give an
excuse for recommending that toxic chemicals
be added to the water supply.

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Thanks Kent, for your comments. I do not work @ UWO. I write these on the
fly and sometimes, late at night, am thinking more of sleeping than what I
am doing, You are of course right and the article refers to a specific
compound (PP1), that is not the same as eating of protein. I should have
pointed that out that too.

Have you read Dr. Jan Kwasniewski's "Homo Optimus" book? His main concern
seems to be that too much protein will end up turning into sugar in the
liver and generate insulin. He makes a number of comments which are not
referenced  but by in large the book is very interesting. If you have read
the book, do you know anything about the selective currents he refers to?

Chris Gupta

At 05:41 PM 29/09/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 9/28/02 8:54:23 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
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>>Optimum diet as apposed to the high protein in Atkin's diet.
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>Your conclusion about PP1 protein effecting memory and the high protein
>Atkin's diet is very questionable.
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>1. The body breaks down all ingested protein in the diet into amino acids
>and then uses these amino acids for various purposes included building new
>proteins in the body. The link between PP1 protein and eating meat was not
>discussed in the article and I doubt any connection.
>
>2. Having one's long term memory erased just to improve the short term
>memory lost in elderly is highly questionable. I don't think older people
>would like their childhood and mid-life memories erased just to be able to
>remember someone's phone number. See quote from article:
>
>"PP1 has a role in a complex clearing system that wipes away insignificant
>details that could clog the brain, leaving a cleaner slate for new learning."
>
>There has been a strong connection between Alzheimer's disease and vitamin
>B-12 deficiency. We know that vitamin B-12 is found almost exclusively in
>meat and the Atkins high protein diet would be better for older people to
>prevent Alzheimer's disease. Older people generally reduce their meat
>intake, especially women. Check out Dr. Mercola's web page at:
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>http://www.mercola.com/2001/may/19/alzheimers.htm
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>Sincerely,
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>Kent R. Rieske
>http://www.biblelife.org/vitamins.htm
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Something I have never seen mentioned
regarding adding flouride to the water :

I have read that what gave some people
the initial idea that flouride was helpful
to prevent tooth decay was a now 50 or more
year-old analysis of well water among people
who had little decay.  They surmised
it was the flouride content of the water
offering the protection.

However,
if well water has higher flouride content,
it is likely to have higher content of
other minerals as well, like calcium,
magnesium, and trace minerals, plus the
flouride would likely be in the least toxic
form, too - calcium flouride.  They
could easily ignore this fact and write a
study implying it was the flouride providing
the benefit, if the study was to give an
excuse for recommending that toxic chemicals
be added to the water supply.

When I meet someone who mentions they
have never had a cavity, I always ask them
if they drank well water growing up, or grew
up where the tapwater was "hard."  The
answer is almost always yes.  It is still
possible with poor dental hygeine to
get cavities even if the water provides
a lot of minerals - acids and
bacteria can overcome it - but in general
they usually have much better dental
health than those who grow up drinking
soft, flouridated water.

turf

Larry Clapp as a great listserv on alternative therapies for prostate cancer
where they are knowledgeable about progesterone.

Marisol

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> Chris...... I appreciated what you sent to me on the use of Progesterone
> Cream and "Prevention", however  I have already covered all of these
> topics,
> prevention is not the problem, or should I say it is now too late for me to
> really get worried about prevention, once you have the prostate cancer,
> prevention is no longer the full answer........
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> Dr Lee indicates that to help keep the cancer in check or from growing you
> should use Testosterone along with the Progesterone Cream thereby keeping
> testosterone at the proper level, and controlling the conversion to
> Dehydrotestosterone, Estradiol, and Estrogen, he also has stated that the
> use of progesterone cream will aid in reducing ones PSA.........
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> believe
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> referring to Dr Lee and his books, surely there is more then one doctor in
> Canada or the USA that believes the use of testosterone creams and
> progesterone creams will help fight prostate cancer....???
> If you find anything else please pass it along to me,
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> www.xpresssites.com/lee/madison/XpSpecialSections/ourtime/story_354885.asp
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Chris,

There is no link implied in this article between naturally occurring protein
phosphatase 1 in the brain and the consumption of protein as food.  The
article also says that this PP1 protein is necessary in brain function.


"Disrupting PP1 activity, however, might adversely affect other aspects of
memory, she cautioned. "It is important to remember that forgetting is a good
thing, and that blocking this process would probably have as many negative
consequences as blocking memory," Silva said. "However, one could imagine
tweaking with the balance between memory and forgetting, and in this way
improve the memory of patients with cognitive deficits." PP1 has a role in a
complex clearing system that wipes away insignificant details that could clog
the brain, leaving a cleaner slate for new learning. "Not everything that we
learn is useful, so the brain needs a mechanism to prevent itself being
burdened by unhelpful details," Silva and Josselyn explained in their
analysis. "The molecular details of this mechanism are now being uncovered."
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Sorry Gerry, I have not been able to find what you requested. However, I
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Chris...... I appreciated what you sent to me on the use of Progesterone
Cream and "Prevention", however  I have already covered all of these topics,
prevention is not the problem, or should I say it is now too late for me to
really get worried about prevention, once you have the prostate cancer,
prevention is no longer the full answer........

Dr Lee indicates that to help keep the cancer in check or from growing you
should use Testosterone along with the Progesterone Cream thereby keeping
testosterone at the proper level, and controlling the conversion to
Dehydrotestosterone, Estradiol, and Estrogen, he also has stated that the
use of progesterone cream will aid in reducing ones PSA.........

What I need is other MDs that may have a site of their own that also believe
in Dr Lee's findings, but so far all I can find is other MDs that keep
referring to Dr Lee and his books, surely there is more then one doctor in
Canada or the USA that believes the use of testosterone creams and
progesterone creams will help fight prostate cancer....???
If you find anything else please pass it along to me,

Thanks

Gerry Logan

Here is another advantage of the lower protein in Dr. Jan Kwasniewski's
Optimum diet as apposed to the high protein in Atkin's diet.

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http://www.news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?id=1066542002&tid=561

Scottish News direct from Scotland  Saturday, 28th September 2002

   Adding fluoride to Scottish water
   Wed 25 Sep 2002

   ROBIN HARPER: Fight to give this plan the brush off

Robin Harper

IN fluoridated Gateshead, dental health is no better than in unfluoridated
Liverpool. Similar results have been found in the United States, New
Zealand and Canada. Twelve European countries have banned water
fluoridation, but this week Mary Mulligan MSP, the Deputy Health Minister,
has put forward a consultation document on children?s oral health, which
includes a proposal to put fluoride into all of Scotland?s drinking water.

This decision to dig up the old chestnut that fluoride prevents dental
decay beggars belief. I abhor the idea of adding fluoride to drinking
water; it is mass-medication without choice, and a frightening abuse of the
monopoly on our water supply.

My party will oppose fluoridation on the grounds that it will mean
unnecessary consumption of a toxic substance by the public through a
monopoly supply, and will be an infringement of human rights. We will press
for effective alternatives.

In October 2000, York University published a review of fluoridation - an
"independent" review commissioned by the Government and carried out by the
NHS. Rather than supporting the case for adding fluoride to drinking water
supplies as the Government hoped, the review severely weakened the case.
The study actually found "little evidence" to show that fluoride reduced
dental health inequalities.

Indeed pro-fluoridationists have not been able to produce one scientific or
laboratory study from anywhere in the world which proves fluoride reduces
dental decay, yet there are hundreds of published scientific papers which
show that water fluoridation is dangerous to human, animal, plant and
aquatic life, as the fluoride put into water at the treatment plant all
ends up in our rivers and seas.

Scientific papers have argued that fluorides have a disruptive effect on
various tissues in the body. Fluoride confuses the immune system, is
implicated in genetic disorders, is implicated in thyroid disorders and is
implicated in dementia and Alzheimer?s disease.

THERE is no getting away from the fact that fluoride is a cumulative
poison - we only excrete about half of any fluoride we ingest and the rest
stays in our bodies and builds up. The effects of low-dose exposure may not
yet be realised. Warnings from the World Health Organisation as early as
1953, and repeated in 1994, that total fluoride levels in people should be
determined before any more is added must not be ignored.

Even if it did work, adding fluoride to the entire drinking water supply
raises a question of civil liberties. Under the Patients? Charter, people
have a right to refuse treatment or ask for alternative treatment and the
EU Rights Charter says "every man has to have a guarantee . . . that he has
free choice of therapy."

Yet water is a monopoly supply - it?s all or nothing. It is not feasible to
say you can avoid fluoride in the tap water by buying bottled. Most food
manufacturers use tap water in their products. Caf?and restaurants use
water in their food and drink; farm animals are watered and tatties are
boiled at home. There will be no escape from it if water is fluoridated, no
possibility of refusal, and no freedom of choice.

Parents can choose whether or not to vaccinate their children against
diseases but water fluoridation means compulsory medication. Fluoridating
milk would give some element of choice, as long as milk providers were not
coerced by subsidies (the NFU only this week came out strongly against milk
fluoridation) and as long as containers were clearly marked and people were
not beguiled by reduced prices. But the bottom line is our children do not
need more exposure to chemicals by an undemocratic system that removes
freedom of choice.

Fluoridation is also a pointless exercise when there are better
alternatives. Teeth cleaning schemes in Tayside and Glasgow in nursery and
primary schools discovered startling results - as much as a 37 per cent
reduction in tooth decay in two years - and better than fluoridation would
have achieved.

Furthermore, children trained to clean their teeth and eat healthily, would
not only benefit from better dental health but better general health. it
would also be essential that community dental services are re-introduced.
Improvements in dental techniques have taken a lot of the fear away from
treatment.

So dental decay is not caused by lack of fluoride but by poor nutrition and
poor dental hygiene, and action should be taken to tackle these causes. Bad
teeth are one result of poverty and poor diet. This should be about more
than trying to prevent dental decay, it should be about helping children,
primarily from deprived areas, to get a good start in life and enabling
them to grow into healthy adults.

The Green Party has calculated that brushing schemes with free toothbrushes
and paste for kids would cost about £2.5 million a year compared with £4m
for running fluoridation plants, which would also cost about £30m to set up
and take two years to build, whereas brushing schemes could be started
right away.

Thirty million pounds would buy a lot of toothbrushes and paste.

THE Executive aims to cut the number of youngsters suffering from dental
decay to 40 per cent within ten years using fluoridation, but by using the
tooth-brushing scheme this figure could be 15 per cent in ten years.

Adding fluoride to the entire water supply would cost £4.4m a year, yet
only a fraction of that water is used for drinking and cooking. This means
96p in every £1 spent on adding fluoride to water is literally poured down
the drain. All that money could go into other ways of reducing decay.

The forthcoming so-called consultation on fluoridation is unlikely to be
even-sided. In 1993, during a previous fluoride debacle, health authorities
in Strathclyde alone spent £108,000 (plus VAT) promoting fluoride, while
those against receive no financial assistance to promote their views. I
will demand to know if the Executive will allow the arguments against
fluoride to be put to the public or will it be a one-way consultation.

Twice already, in 1978 and 1992, the people of Scotland were offered water
fluoridation and rejected it. We have recently been afflicted with other
food and water crises. It is now time to press home to the Government that
we want clean air, food and water for ourselves and our children. Let?s
start by rejecting fluoridation and welcoming the alternatives.

Robin Harper is Green Member of the Scottish Parliament for the Lothians

Websites
   British Dental Association briefing (pdf)
   British Dental Health Foundation - fluoride FAQ
   Scottish Water
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Patrick,

Have you had any thoughts about the circuitry that ascertains, what
frequencies are required by the subject to treat a specific condition.
I read a number of posts that this was avaiable on a Clark device, as well
as the Swiss unit, and the QXCI. I thouht I would e-mail you off line.

The implications and efficacy of this testing is interesting.

There's the question of mutation as well as specifying a frequency for a
pathogen. for example if someone has a known condition, would it correlate ?
and then again, afer identifying a frequency on a follow up
is the condition cured or allieviated ?

Curious about your thoughts.


Regards,
Shel

>From: "atelierrobin" <atelierrobin@...>
>Reply-To: electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
>To: electroherbalism@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [electroherbalism] Re: functiongenerator versus rife pad divice
>Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 03:00:38 -0000
>
>Hi again,
>
>Since you or others on this list might not familiar with our
>generators, I will add a bit more information.
>
>I forgot to mention that our generators can be bundled with a Palm
>Pilot as an option to have a completely standalone programmable
>frequency generator. The same software that runs on the PC is
>available for the Palm. Software is in beta test with a small set of
>Palm users right now and we plan to offer the Palm-Generator bundle
>in one month.
>
>For example, for approximately $400 US you will get a Palm m105 and a
>F150 generator. (exact price TBD) For those who already own a Palm
>m105 or later, the software will be available for free.
>
>We have users running our generators with EMEM and Rife Bare devices
>and they are very satisfied. See the testimonials section on our site.
>
>There is a picture at: http://atelierrobin.tripod.com/palm1.jpg
>
>Please note that these do not use software, the PC or Palm to
>generate frequencies. They are professional quality frequency
>generators with a 29 bit DDS (Direct digital wave synthesis) circuit
>and 25 or 15 ppm clock source for very high accuracy.
>
>Consult http://atelierrobin.tripod.com for more info on
>specs/features of the generators.
>
>Patrick
>http://atelierrobin.tripod.com
>


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Thanks Brian, see Bill Sardi's comments in an another email. Also I don't
think Oral Vitamin C chelation is as effective as IV EDTA/Vitamin C
chelation therapy. At least this was in my case. I also had significant
improvement in kidney function real bonus!

Chris Gupta
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  >  From what I know, the cause of leukemia is a weakened immune system and
  > lead in the drinking water. From the following piece, it should be obvious

  > that the weakened immune system is brought on by a vitamin C deficiency.
  > (The Complete Guide to Health and Nutrition, Null. pg 310)

This makes good sense.  Toxic metals like lead
can deposit in the bone.  When white blood cells
are malformed (due to the pollution of the marrow)
and are less/non effective in their function, the
body compensates by making more of them.
If it is so polluted that its function is severely
compromised, it could get to the point of not
being able to produce enough.

As I am sure you know, Vitamin C in
large amounts chelates metals and minerals
from the body.  Add to this The Water
Cure (with a good salt like Real Salt)
to further remove the toxic metals as
well as replace minerals
and it is likely an excellent remedy.

I think that high dose vitamin C along with the Water
Cure, (plus a good multivitamin and a mineral
supplement) is as good as IV chelation therapy.  It
appears to wash toxins out just as well and
has the major benefit of *improving* mineral
status instead of destroying it.  A good
cal-mag and vitamin C supplement is Nutribiotics
Hypo-Aller C, which is powder form (about $20
per pound) and contains 350mg calcium, 350mg
magnesium,
6 mg zinc, and 100mg potassium per teaspoon -
mix in water before use.  A good multivitamin
(like Twinlab Daily Two or Solaray Twice Daily)
is used to ensure adequate trace minerals
like zinc and selenium as well as B vitamins
to assist organ function and detox.

turf

Thanks Bill, for the comments and references.

Chris Gupta
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:BSardi@...>BSardi@...
>To: <mailto:tracy@...>tracy@...
>Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 8:33 PM
>Subject: Re: remedy leukemia
>
>Chris..........leukemia has much more to do with iron than lead.  Very
>little lead on board, while there is plenty of iron.  Iron chelators (IP6)
>would be therapeutic.  -B Sardi
>
>Crit Rev Oncol Hematol 2002 Jun;42(3):267-81
>
>Iron chelators as therapeutic agents for the treatment of cancer.
>
>Richardson DR.
>
>The Iron Metabolism and Chelation Group, The Heart Research Institute, 145
>Missenden Road, Camperdown, 2050, Sydney, NSW, Australia
>
>A wide variety of studies in vitro, in vivo, and in clinical trials have
>demonstrated that the chelator currently used to treat iron overload
>disease, desferrioxamine, has anti-proliferative effects against both
>leukemia and neuroblastoma. However, the efficacy of desferrioxamine is
>severely limited due to its poor ability to permeate cell membranes and
>chelate intracellular iron pools. These studies have led to the
>development of other iron chelators that are far more effective than
>desferrioxamine. Some of these chelators such as
>3-aminopyridine-2-carboxaldehyde thiosemicarbazone (Triapine(R)) have
>entered phase I clinical trials, while other chelators such as
>2-hydroxy-1-naphthylaldehyde isonicotinoyl hydrazone or tachpyridine
>require evaluation in animal models. The high anti-tumor activity observed
>with these ligands certainly suggests further development of chelators as
>anti-cancer agents is warranted.
>
>Leuk Lymphoma 1998 Sep;31(1-2):47-60
>
>Analogues of pyridoxal isonicotinoyl hydrazone (PIH) as potential iron
>chelators for the treatment of neoplasia.
>
>Richardson DR.
>
>Department of Medicine, Royal Brisbane Hospital, Queensland, Australia. D.
>Richardson@...
>
>Cancer cells have a high requirement for iron (Fe) as it plays a crucial
>role in a variety of metabolic processes including energy production and
>DNA synthesis. Studies in vitro and in vivo have demonstrated that the Fe
>chelator in current clinical use, desferrioxamine (DFO), can effectively
>inhibit the growth of some neoplasms, including leukemia and
>neuroblastoma. Unfortunately, DFO suffers from a number of serious
>disadvantages, including its high cost, the need for prolonged
>subcutaneous infusion (12-24 h/day, 5-6 nights/week), and its poor
>intestinal absorption precluding oral administration. Hence, the
>development of more effective Fe chelators is necessary. The Fe chelator,
>pyridoxal isonicotinoyl hydrazone (PIH), was initially identified as a
>ligand that showed high activity at mobilizing Fe from cells. More
>recently, a range of PIH analogues have been examined for their
>anti-proliferative effect, with several classes of these compounds showing
>high activity at inhibiting tumor growth in vitro. In fact, some of these
>hydrazones, particularly those derived from 2-hydroxy-1-naphthylaldehyde,
>showed comparable activity to the cytotoxic drugs cis-platin and
>bleomycin. In this review the role of Fe in cellular proliferation will be
>examined followed by a description of the most recent studies using the
>PIH analogues as effective anti-proliferative agents. Further studies in
>vivo with these Fe chelators are essential to determine their potential as
>chemotherapeutic agents.
>

thanks for looking into it and I will check it from
time to time to see when its back up.
paula

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    Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 06:50:38 -0700 (PDT)
    From: paula bomer <pbomrock@...>
Subject: DMSO

Dear david,
I couldn't open up the link to jacobs lab--will try
again. I love to hear stories like the one about your
wife--I hope my future is that bright.
Thanks for the DMSO idea. I will keep investigating
it-
paula

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