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#4753 From: "Sara" <nurturinghome@...>
Date: Mon Jul 4, 2005 4:23 am
Subject: Re: atopic eczema adult
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To get rid completly of eczema, it isn't enough only to remove
amalgams and do all the cleanses that are in hulda clark's book. Our
household cleaners are full of toxins and heavy metals that cause
these nasty flareups. It includes almost everything: Shampoos, laundry
detergents, soaps, dish soaps, even new carpets! So they might be the
culprit that prevent from the eczema to be gone completely.
At least it was in my case, I had bleeding eczema in my all body, and
had terrible eczema in my feet soles. I removed the amalgams and
changed the household cleaners, and it worked great.

#4752 From: "sasha" <sasha@...>
Date: Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:38 pm
Subject: Re: topical infection
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Sure Bet - Colloidal Silver (CS) (Sovereign Silver) is the name of the CS
you will find at Whole Foods (if you have one).  Spray away, and keep this
spray on your person.  Mist yourself throughout the day.  CS is a natural
anti-biotic, anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, anti-viral.  If you don't already
know about it, or haven't been informed about CS, it would be well worth
your time to investigate it, as it could turn your health, in particular,
your eczema psoriasis around, and or completely eliminate it.  CS is
completely harmless, and when added to your diet, say 1 or 2 oz. of 10ppm
per day, you will heal from the inside too.  And also the added benefit is
that you will stave off infections, colds, flues, viruses, etc.

You also might consider internal cleanses, liver, kidney, bowel to eliminate
the toxins from your entire body, so that you don't get the break outs.  The
break outs are from the toxins, not being completely released out of your
pores.  Do dry body brushing every day, go to the sauna and sweat more.

One more thing is to find a good nutritionist, and learn to eat more raw
(fruits, vegetables, sprouts, seeds).  Drink 1/2 your body weight (in
ounces) of pure water every day.

Exercise.

Hope that helps.
-------Original Message-------

From: gearhead
Date: 06/30/05 04:56:09
To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [eczemapsoriasis] topical infection


Hello all,  I am looking for some info and I hope someone has already been
thru this that can help...  During the summer, I sweat.  the sweat irrates
my skin and then I itch and scratch typically where my skin folds(behind
knees..etc).  I break out where my hair folicles are and it develops into an
infection.  I have been to the doctor for this and she has advised that most
people with ezcema have an excess about of Staff infection on their skin and
the only way to combat this is too use antibacterial soap.

Any suggestions?


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#4751 From: "sasha" <sasha@...>
Date: Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:56 pm
Subject: Re: topical infection
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Gearhead -

I forgot to add one other thing - and that is you would do well with natural
pro-biotics that have anti-biotic effects internally and externally.
Something such as Kefir or Kombucha.  Both are excellent and will make a
difference in your eczema within a week to two weeks.  I make both for
myself and do ship kefir grains and kombucha SCOBY around the US upon
request.  So if you feel you might like to try this, let me know by personal
e-mail to sasha@....  Okay.  Thought I might add that for your health
and healing.
Sasha

-------Original Message-------

From: sasha
Date: 06/30/05 07:38:15
To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] topical infection

Sure Bet - Colloidal Silver (CS) (Sovereign Silver) is the name of the CS
you will find at Whole Foods (if you have one).  Spray away, and keep this
spray on your person.  Mist yourself throughout the day.  CS is a natural
anti-biotic, anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, anti-viral.  If you don't already
know about it, or haven't been informed about CS, it would be well worth
your time to investigate it, as it could turn your health, in particular,
your eczema psoriasis around, and or completely eliminate it.  CS is
completely harmless, and when added to your diet, say 1 or 2 oz. of 10ppm
per day, you will heal from the inside too.  And also the added benefit is
that you will stave off infections, colds, flues, viruses, etc.

You also might consider internal cleanses, liver, kidney, bowel to eliminate
the toxins from your entire body, so that you don't get the break outs.  The
break outs are from the toxins, not being completely released out of your
pores.  Do dry body brushing every day, go to the sauna and sweat more.

One more thing is to find a good nutritionist, and learn to eat more raw
(fruits, vegetables, sprouts, seeds).  Drink 1/2 your body weight (in
ounces) of pure water every day.

Exercise.

Hope that helps.
-------Original Message-------

From: gearhead
Date: 06/30/05 04:56:09
To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [eczemapsoriasis] topical infection


Hello all,  I am looking for some info and I hope someone has already been
thru this that can help...  During the summer, I sweat.  the sweat irrates
my skin and then I itch and scratch typically where my skin folds(behind
knees..etc).  I break out where my hair folicles are and it develops into an
infection.  I have been to the doctor for this and she has advised that most
people with ezcema have an excess about of Staff infection on their skin and
the only way to combat this is too use antibacterial soap.

Any suggestions?


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#4750 From: gearhead <gearhead19702000@...>
Date: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:56 am
Subject: topical infection
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Hello all,  I am looking for some info and I hope someone has already been thru
this that can help...  During the summer, I sweat.  the sweat irrates my skin
and then I itch and scratch typically where my skin folds(behind knees..etc).  I
break out where my hair folicles are and it develops into an infection.  I have
been to the doctor for this and she has advised that most people with ezcema
have an excess about of Staff infection on their skin and the only way to combat
this is too use antibacterial soap.

Any suggestions?


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#4749 From: "Natasha Hall" <natasha@...>
Date: Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:44 am
Subject: Re: Re: enzymes?
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] Re: enzymes?


> I'm no doc, but it sounds like you do have a chronic, low grade infection,
> probably with several different pathogenic organisms. Probably parasites,
> too. I recommend you get on Primal Defense probiotic, begin drinking kefir
> (homemade is best, but Helios is a good commercial brand) and take coconut
> oil (Nutiva or Tropical Traditions ONLY). There are also several different
> essential oils (Young Living or Secrets of Eden ONLY) that you can use
> topically and internally to ward off infections and strengthen the immune
> system. If you tell me more about what secondary health conditions you
> suffer from, I can choose the right oils for you to use. Some good general
> ones are lemon and lavender. Again, you MUST be careful about the quality
> of the oils when you use them internally. This will eliminate the
> infections the natural way instead of using antibiotics, which make it
> worse in the long run. Antibiotics kill off your own beneficial bacteria
> so that when you stop taking them, any
> opportunistic bad bacteria can come in and easily multiply and cause
> problems. If your immune system were stronger and you had a healthy
> population of beneficial bacteria, the bad guys would never have a chance
> to get in and take over. Good nutrition is the first step, but adding the
> supplements I listed above will really help a lot faster. Let me know if
> you have any questions about the Flower of Wellness program.
> Carisa
> ilka <ilka@...> wrote: Dear Carisa,
>
> I too suffer from psoriasis. It's been 20 years. I too tried everything
> under the sun. I found out that when I have any kind of infection, my
> psoriasis flares up a lot and after taking antibiotics, it clears very
> well.
> I was wondering if I have an ongoing infection all the time when my
> psoriasis is bad?
> Please send me your protocol? I'd like to goive it a try!
> Thank you for your great insights!
> ilka@...
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> To: <eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] Re: enzymes?
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>> Enzymes certainly can't hurt! Go for it. Try to get them from live,
>> active
> sources like kefir and rejuvelac. Kefir can be made in such a way that all
> the lactose is used up and will not cause problems, as long as it's made
> from raw goat or sheep milk. Bentonite is also great for leaky gut as it
> helps absorb toxins that would otherwise be reabsorbed into the
> bloodstream.
> Aloe juice is another great gut healer. Finally, probiotics are VITAL for
> children with autism or leaky gut. Most of these kids have severely
> disturbed gut microflora. Again, kefir helps with this, or you could put
> them on a good quality probiotic like Jarro-Dophilus. Hope this helps!
>> Carisa
>>
>> gingras440@... wrote:
>> Has anyone ever tried using enzymes to help heal the "leaky gut"
> associated
>> with psoriasis?
>> I am just beginning to use enzymes for my son who is dx on the autism
>> spectrum (which could also be assoc with leaky gut). thanks for any
> info........rita
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#4748 From: charmario1970@...
Date: Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:57 am
Subject: Re: re: atopic eczema adult
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I am currently applying EFAs to my skin, and taking them internally as well.
My face is glowing, and I sometiems see a slight improvement on my rash, but
not aften. My skin actually gets worse when it is "moist". I have heard that
the best omegas are the ones found in hemp oil.

Regards

Charmaine


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#4747 From: Meivy Santos <madnigrinha@...>
Date: Sat Jun 25, 2005 2:23 am
Subject: Re: Re: Mum's Rant. (Baby with eczema.)
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thank you very much for your concern...I'll check out the website and follow
your advice...thank  you very very much

Pamela Ulloa <pame555@...> wrote:Hello Meivy,

I am sorry to hear of your baby, my has  eczema too, since 3 month, now she is
17 and still, has it, it got even worst, she even has in in the scalp, ears..It
very hard sometimes she es better some times not.Let me tell you what we did to
help her, it may be help full for you too.
We have a shower filter, we use a Keri oil in the water to bath her, no more
than 10 min, a soon she is out of the water, we put lotion,(aquaphor, eucerin,
Vaseline, ) I keep her cover so she won scratch  (long sleeves, and pants all
the time). Do not use detergent on baby cloth just hot water should be ok. I
been giving muy baby cullturelle, it supouse to help rebinding fora intestinal,
check this web to more info  www.culturelle.com  and her baby vitamins...we find
out that she is allergic to cow's milk, egg whites, and peanuts..lately even
soy. but after we stop eating than she improve. If you are brest feeding you
sould avoid this food too


Meivy Santos <madnigrinha@...> wrote:
Hi, my baby is 5 months....she's had eczema since she was 2 months on 90% of her
body....I've tried a lot of creams lotions, and soaps...I'm interested  in the
renew lotion and airborne that you've been mentioning..don't know where to get
it....Please, let me know how to get it, thank you?
first time mom.

Lori Poulin <stayinhome@...> wrote:
Pamela,
I am ordering from them today I could order some for you and mail it to you.
I will pay for it. I just want your baby to feel  better.

E-mail me off the group with your address and I can send it to you.

Lori Poulin
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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] Re: Mum's Rant. (Baby with eczema.)


> hello Lorie,
>
> My name is pamela, I have a 17 month old baby with a bad eczema all over
her bady, can you tell me more about the melaleuca.....? I try to check the
web side but I dont see any maelaleuca oil. It help with the eczema.?
>
> pamela
>
> Lori Poulin <stayinhome@...> wrote:
> Hi Liz and Kate,
> My baby had eczema really bad and my doctor prescribed steroids. Not
wanting to take this route I found Melaleuca and the Renew lotion has cured
him from this skin condition. They also have a melagel that clears
psoriasis. It is an International Wellness Company and their prices are
compared with Walmart. Their website is www.melaleuca.com Let me know if you
want more info.
>
> Have a wonderful day!
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>   From: kateanct
>   To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 2:47 PM
>   Subject: [eczemapsoriasis] Re: Mum's Rant. (Baby with eczema.)
>
>
>   Hi Liz,
>
>   I've just found this group and I'm in exactly the same situation as
>   you.  My 7 month old boy has eczema quite badly and I'm coming under
>   increasing pressure to give him steroid creams.  So far I've resisted
>   but it is so difficult when you know that they are judging you as a
>   mother - and they clearly don't think that you're doing the right
>   thing. (although most people outside the healthcare profession I talk
>   to think that I am doing the right thing!)
>
>   We've had limited success with homeopathy so far, I'm now looking to
>   increase the dose in the hope that it will continue to help.  We've
>   tried all sorts of different oils and lotions - there is a Tisserand
>   baby massage oil that you can get in Waitrose (Baby Bliss) which
>   contains borage oil and seems to help.  I also use a blend of
>   calendula and jojoba oils with lavender, roman chamomile, rose
>   geranium etc. that a friend makes up for me.  We also manage the
>   weepy patches on his face with Sudacrem (works wonders!) and I use
>   the Fucidin cream when there is infection (not the one with steroids
>   in it).
>
>   This week we've discovered a seaweed powder that you add to the bath -
>   and I do feel that this is having an effect (fingers crossed).  He's
>   been having baths morning and night and I also make him up a face
>   pack.  I can feel the difference on my own skin where my hands have
>   been in the water so I do feel that it is having an effect.  Just a
>   shame that I really can't stand the smell of seaweed - never have
>   been able to! - it sometimes makes me retch!
>
>   We're also using acupuncture - I have the most wonderful practitioner
>   who I met when I was pregnant and I would trust her with anything.  I
>   can't say yet whether or not it is effective but DS loves the flower
>   essences she also prescribes (they are given in cognac!).
>
>   I have a question for this list - when my GP is trying to undermine
>   me does anyone have the details of any research that shows how safe
>   or not the steroid creams are?  I'd like to be able to show her that
>   my mistrust of steroids is based on more than just my instinct.
>
>   Thanks
>
>   Kate.
>
>   --- In eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com, "Liz" <liz.pearman_@b...>
>   wrote:
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#4746 From: "sasha" <sasha@...>
Date: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:47 pm
Subject: Re: re: atopic eczema adult
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I'm just curious.  Do either of you subscribed to taking Omega 3-6-9 Oils,
or Fish Oil?  Also, applying it directly to your skin?
Sasha

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From: tracy lord
Date: 06/23/05 00:33:03
To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] re: atopic eczema adult

well as a 26 year struggle with my eczema, i now seem to be beging to win.
Over the years i have tried steriod creams, steriod tablets, immuno
supressants, avoiding certain foods.

i have been in hospital 5 times in the last 4 years to get it back under
control.

and just when i think i have hit a turning point i have just been diagnosed
with the inevitable depression is it any wonder after all these years of
scratching, bleeding, being worried about what people think when they see me
and the all important complete lack of self image and self esteem.

there is always hope so people dont give up, listen to people around you
when they say it does look as bad as u think it does.

Remember control the eczema in your life dont let the eczema control you.



Ching L Lee <viet_veteran68@...> wrote:
Hi, Charmaine,
I've been a member of this forum for the past 3-4
months and have read many of the messages related to
psoriasis and eczema, but your post struck me as being
very thorough in describing your frustration with
atopic dermatitis.

First, I have suffered on and off with this problem
ever since my military assignment to Panama in 1955.

Regarding your questions:

1. Insatiable itching. Pruritis (proo-ri'-tis or
Proo-ri-go) are medical words for itching. The exact
cause of an itch is unknown and is a complex process.
Ultimately it involves nerves in the skin responding
to certain chemicals such as histamine, and then
processing these signals in the brain.

Pruritis can be a symptom of certain skin diseases,
and sometimes a manifestation of an internal process
or may be due to faulty processing of the itch
sensation within the nervous system.

There are several internal diseases that may cause
itch, the most common example is kidney failure. Other
types of internal diseases include some type of liver
disease, thyroid hormone levels, some blood disorders
such as iron deficiency anemia, polycythemia vera, and
multiple myeloma. Moreover, certain neurologic
conditions such as pinched nerves and strokes may also
lead to itch.

Above info was quoted from an American Academy of
Dermatology pamphlet.

2. Sometimes, it is valuable just to control the
itching, particularly when it becomes maddening. You
say that calamine lotion is helpful to you. I've found
a lotion called "SARNA" which contains 0.5% menthol
and 0.5% camphor to be very helpful in my case. Atarax
(hydroxyzine HCL) is a pill taken at night is helpful
for itching and because it makes one sleepy, it should
be taken with caution during the day if you're driving
a car.

I've used all sorts of corticosteroid creams such as
aristocort, hydrocortisone, kenalog/Lidex,
triamcinolione, and the most potent topical steroid,
clobetasol. In addition, I have been put on prednisone
whenever my flareups get very, very serious, but I try
to avoid this treatment. I've also tried so called
non-topical steroids such as Protopic and Elidel which
are now on the FDA "conditionally" approved list;
when they were first released to the public 3-4 years
ago, the drug companies advertised that they were the
best thing since chopsticks because they suppressed
the immune system, but neither worked effectively for
me. Also, anti-histamines can be of help to control
itching, such as Allegra, Zyrtec, or Claritin; I
believe all are prescription regulated.

If you are up to it, I recommend three web sites to
visit to get a good understanding of what the medical
profession say about atopic dermatitis. (some others
may have naturalpath or holistic web sites for you to
visit, but I will leave it to them).

First is www.medicinenet.com. Go to the TAB that
discusses Diseases and Conditions, then scoll down to
common focused topics and click on "Skin."

Second is www.mayoclinic.com. Go to dermatitis/eczema.

Third is the Harvard site, but I don't have the web
URL at this moment, but it is a good one to review.

Other steps: I have tried Virgin Coconut oil for the
past month. The oil helps keep my sking soft and
moisturized, and it does wonders for keeping my hair
soft and manageable after a shampoo. I can't tell
whether it is helping my dermatitis per se yet. I will
continue trying it.

Lastly, several months ago, I subscribed to the EFT
(Emotional Freedom Techniques) course by Gary Craig
and although I haven't found it to be a magic bullet
yet, I'm still experimenting. This is a tapping system
on energy channels of the body (accupuncture) that has
found a large following and there are testimonials
that it has cured may emotional/medical related
ailments including psoriasis and eczema, headaches,
fear of heights, aches and pains, etc. If you are
interested, go to www.emofree.com.

Yesterday I went to the military hospital in
Washington, DC called Walter Reed to participate in
their week long "Patch Test" to determine whether I am
subject to "contact" dermatitis, meaning if there are
substances that come into contact with my skin causing
the my rash to flare up. Many years aog, I have taken
the allergy test for my hay fever which ties in with
my diagnosis of dermatitis, so I am surprised that you
have the skin problem but no allergies.

The hospital just opened a "Liver Center" and I was
going to ask the head of the department whether he
felt that liver cleansing would help my atopic
dermatitis. I understand that you undergo this
treatment twice a year, but it does not seem to have
positively affected you dermatitis (eliminated it).

I admire your ability, and others who have made posts
to this forum saying that they have been on a rigorous
diet, to stick to a diet regimine. Although you say
you are on a veggie diet, my own thinking is that
there still may be things you eat that may be
associated with your dermatitis flare-ups; in other
words, sensitivity to certain foods to aggravate your
atopic dermatitis vs foods that cause "hives."

I hope the above info will be helpful.

ChingL


--- virtualvenus2002 wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> after 12 mnths of going to doctors (dermatologists
> etc) I've finally
> managed to get a doctor to do a bioposy, and low and
> behold I have
> (what is termed) atopic eczema.
>
> Now, the thing is I don't suffer from any allergies
> (and never have).
> I am a vegan, I don't drink, smoke, and I have am in
> very good shape
> (physically). I take a major vitamin regime every
> day, which had
> included flax seed oil (which I had tried to apply
> topically but got
> such a severe reaction that I stopped). I am now
> trying EPO, and
> (even though I am vegan) am using Medi honey. I
> don't beleive in just
> fixing a "cause" by applying cortizone cream as was
> prescibed, and
> layering creams that don't work anyway. As I told
> the doctors,
> nothing, and I mean nothing works. The only thing
> that eases the
> itching is covering myself in calamine lotion. The
> only place where I
> have the eczema is on my legs (my shins arethe main
> culprit). I
> cleanse regularly, at least 2 times a year, the full
> 2 week liver
> cleanse, although due to my diet there is no effect
> anyway (at least
> it gives my body a break from the vitamins).
>
> Is there anyway who has never suffered this
> ailment(who has been just
> about perfect with their diet) who has found a
> "natural" remedy that
> works. I'm about to get even stricter with my diet
> after I purchased
> a book by Brendan Frazier called "Thrive", and see
> if that make any
> difference. I also don't use any petrochemicals, and
> moved to the
> countryside for a stress reduced lifestyle. My
> husband calls it my
> habit as I cannot stop scratching to the point of
> blood streaming
> down my legs...Frustrating is not a word I would
> even begin to
> describe it with, especially considering I want to
> compete in a
> fitness (physique) competition next year?
>
> Has anyone got any suggestions regarding a cream
> (not doctor
> prescibed) that actually works? Oh, I am also on a
> maintenence dose
> of ESSIAC tea which is a potent blood purifier.
> Anyone who may think
> that this type of affliction may be diet related, I
> beg to differ.
> (unless of course they are a Celiac). My girlfriend
> is a natropath
> and she believes it is a metaphysical
> manisfestation.
>
> Cheers
>
> Charmaine
>
>
>
>
>




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#4745 From: Pamela Ulloa <pame555@...>
Date: Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:03 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Mum's Rant. (Baby with eczema.)
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Hello Meivy,

I am sorry to hear of your baby, my has  eczema too, since 3 month, now she is
17 and still, has it, it got even worst, she even has in in the scalp, ears..It
very hard sometimes she es better some times not.Let me tell you what we did to
help her, it may be help full for you too.
We have a shower filter, we use a Keri oil in the water to bath her, no more
than 10 min, a soon she is out of the water, we put lotion,(aquaphor, eucerin,
Vaseline, ) I keep her cover so she won scratch  (long sleeves, and pants all
the time). Do not use detergent on baby cloth just hot water should be ok. I
been giving muy baby cullturelle, it supouse to help rebinding fora intestinal,
check this web to more info  www.culturelle.com  and her baby vitamins...we find
out that she is allergic to cow's milk, egg whites, and peanuts..lately even
soy. but after we stop eating than she improve. If you are brest feeding you
sould avoid this food too


Meivy Santos <madnigrinha@...> wrote:
Hi, my baby is 5 months....she's had eczema since she was 2 months on 90% of her
body....I've tried a lot of creams lotions, and soaps...I'm interested  in the
renew lotion and airborne that you've been mentioning..don't know where to get
it....Please, let me know how to get it, thank you?
first time mom.

Lori Poulin <stayinhome@...> wrote:
Pamela,
I am ordering from them today I could order some for you and mail it to you.
I will pay for it. I just want your baby to feel  better.

E-mail me off the group with your address and I can send it to you.

Lori Poulin
stayinhome@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pamela Ulloa" <pame555@...>
To: <eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] Re: Mum's Rant. (Baby with eczema.)


> hello Lorie,
>
> My name is pamela, I have a 17 month old baby with a bad eczema all over
her bady, can you tell me more about the melaleuca.....? I try to check the
web side but I dont see any maelaleuca oil. It help with the eczema.?
>
> pamela
>
> Lori Poulin <stayinhome@...> wrote:
> Hi Liz and Kate,
> My baby had eczema really bad and my doctor prescribed steroids. Not
wanting to take this route I found Melaleuca and the Renew lotion has cured
him from this skin condition. They also have a melagel that clears
psoriasis. It is an International Wellness Company and their prices are
compared with Walmart. Their website is www.melaleuca.com Let me know if you
want more info.
>
> Have a wonderful day!
> Lori
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>   Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 2:47 PM
>   Subject: [eczemapsoriasis] Re: Mum's Rant. (Baby with eczema.)
>
>
>   Hi Liz,
>
>   I've just found this group and I'm in exactly the same situation as
>   you.  My 7 month old boy has eczema quite badly and I'm coming under
>   increasing pressure to give him steroid creams.  So far I've resisted
>   but it is so difficult when you know that they are judging you as a
>   mother - and they clearly don't think that you're doing the right
>   thing. (although most people outside the healthcare profession I talk
>   to think that I am doing the right thing!)
>
>   We've had limited success with homeopathy so far, I'm now looking to
>   increase the dose in the hope that it will continue to help.  We've
>   tried all sorts of different oils and lotions - there is a Tisserand
>   baby massage oil that you can get in Waitrose (Baby Bliss) which
>   contains borage oil and seems to help.  I also use a blend of
>   calendula and jojoba oils with lavender, roman chamomile, rose
>   geranium etc. that a friend makes up for me.  We also manage the
>   weepy patches on his face with Sudacrem (works wonders!) and I use
>   the Fucidin cream when there is infection (not the one with steroids
>   in it).
>
>   This week we've discovered a seaweed powder that you add to the bath -
>   and I do feel that this is having an effect (fingers crossed).  He's
>   been having baths morning and night and I also make him up a face
>   pack.  I can feel the difference on my own skin where my hands have
>   been in the water so I do feel that it is having an effect.  Just a
>   shame that I really can't stand the smell of seaweed - never have
>   been able to! - it sometimes makes me retch!
>
>   We're also using acupuncture - I have the most wonderful practitioner
>   who I met when I was pregnant and I would trust her with anything.  I
>   can't say yet whether or not it is effective but DS loves the flower
>   essences she also prescribes (they are given in cognac!).
>
>   I have a question for this list - when my GP is trying to undermine
>   me does anyone have the details of any research that shows how safe
>   or not the steroid creams are?  I'd like to be able to show her that
>   my mistrust of steroids is based on more than just my instinct.
>
>   Thanks
>
>   Kate.
>
>   --- In eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com, "Liz" <liz.pearman_@b...>
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>   >
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#4744 From: Meivy Santos <madnigrinha@...>
Date: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:57 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Mum's Rant. (Baby with eczema.)
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Hi, my baby is 5 months....she's had eczema since she was 2 months on 90% of her
body....I've tried a lot of creams lotions, and soaps...I'm interested  in the
renew lotion and airborne that you've been mentioning..don't know where to get
it....Please, let me know how to get it, thank you?
first time mom.

Lori Poulin <stayinhome@...> wrote:
Pamela,
I am ordering from them today I could order some for you and mail it to you.
I will pay for it. I just want your baby to feel  better.

E-mail me off the group with your address and I can send it to you.

Lori Poulin
stayinhome@...

----- Original Message -----
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To: <eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] Re: Mum's Rant. (Baby with eczema.)


> hello Lorie,
>
> My name is pamela, I have a 17 month old baby with a bad eczema all over
her bady, can you tell me more about the melaleuca.....? I try to check the
web side but I dont see any maelaleuca oil. It help with the eczema.?
>
> pamela
>
> Lori Poulin <stayinhome@...> wrote:
> Hi Liz and Kate,
> My baby had eczema really bad and my doctor prescribed steroids. Not
wanting to take this route I found Melaleuca and the Renew lotion has cured
him from this skin condition. They also have a melagel that clears
psoriasis. It is an International Wellness Company and their prices are
compared with Walmart. Their website is www.melaleuca.com Let me know if you
want more info.
>
> Have a wonderful day!
> Lori
>                        "To enhance the lives of those we touch by helping
people reach their goals"
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>                         Independent Marketing Executive  Stayin' Home &
Lovin' It
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>                         Eatonville, WA 98328
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>   To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 2:47 PM
>   Subject: [eczemapsoriasis] Re: Mum's Rant. (Baby with eczema.)
>
>
>   Hi Liz,
>
>   I've just found this group and I'm in exactly the same situation as
>   you.  My 7 month old boy has eczema quite badly and I'm coming under
>   increasing pressure to give him steroid creams.  So far I've resisted
>   but it is so difficult when you know that they are judging you as a
>   mother - and they clearly don't think that you're doing the right
>   thing. (although most people outside the healthcare profession I talk
>   to think that I am doing the right thing!)
>
>   We've had limited success with homeopathy so far, I'm now looking to
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#4743 From: tracy lord <voddkagirl@...>
Date: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:25 am
Subject: Re: re: atopic eczema adult
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well as a 26 year struggle with my eczema, i now seem to be beging to win.
Over the years i have tried steriod creams, steriod tablets, immuno supressants,
avoiding certain foods.

i have been in hospital 5 times in the last 4 years to get it back under
control.

and just when i think i have hit a turning point i have just been diagnosed with
the inevitable depression is it any wonder after all these years of scratching,
bleeding, being worried about what people think when they see me and the all
important complete lack of self image and self esteem.

there is always hope so people dont give up, listen to people around you when
they say it does look as bad as u think it does.

Remember control the eczema in your life dont let the eczema control you.



Ching L Lee <viet_veteran68@...> wrote:
Hi, Charmaine,
I've been a member of this forum for the past 3-4
months and have read many of the messages related to
psoriasis and eczema, but your post struck me as being
very thorough in describing your frustration with
atopic dermatitis.

First, I have suffered on and off with this problem
ever since my military assignment to Panama in 1955.

Regarding your questions:

1. Insatiable itching. Pruritis (proo-ri'-tis or
Proo-ri-go) are medical words for itching. The exact
cause of an itch is unknown and is a complex process.
Ultimately it involves nerves in the skin responding
to certain chemicals such as histamine, and then
processing these signals in the brain.

Pruritis can be a symptom of certain skin diseases,
and sometimes a manifestation of an internal process
or may be due to faulty processing of the itch
sensation within the nervous system.

There are several internal diseases that may cause
itch, the most common example is kidney failure. Other
types of internal diseases include some type of liver
disease, thyroid hormone levels, some blood disorders
such as iron deficiency anemia, polycythemia vera, and
multiple myeloma. Moreover, certain neurologic
conditions such as pinched nerves and strokes may also
lead to itch.

Above info was quoted from an American Academy of
Dermatology pamphlet.

2. Sometimes, it is valuable just to control the
itching, particularly when it becomes maddening. You
say that calamine lotion is helpful to you. I've found
a lotion called "SARNA" which contains 0.5% menthol
and 0.5% camphor to be very helpful in my case. Atarax
(hydroxyzine HCL) is a pill taken at night is helpful
for itching and because it makes one sleepy, it should
be taken with caution during the day if you're driving
a car.

I've used all sorts of corticosteroid creams such as
aristocort, hydrocortisone, kenalog/Lidex,
triamcinolione, and the most potent topical steroid,
clobetasol. In addition, I have been put on prednisone
whenever my flareups get very, very serious, but I try
to avoid this treatment. I've also tried so called
non-topical steroids such as Protopic and Elidel which
are now on the FDA "conditionally" approved list;
when they were first released to the public 3-4 years
ago, the drug companies advertised that they were the
best thing since chopsticks because they suppressed
the immune system, but neither worked effectively for
me. Also, anti-histamines can be of help to control
itching, such as Allegra, Zyrtec, or Claritin; I
believe all are prescription regulated.

If you are up to it, I recommend three web sites to
visit to get a good understanding of what the medical
profession say about atopic dermatitis. (some others
may have naturalpath or holistic web sites for you to
visit, but I will leave it to them).

First is www.medicinenet.com. Go to the TAB that
discusses Diseases and Conditions, then scoll down to
common focused topics and click on "Skin."

Second is www.mayoclinic.com. Go to dermatitis/eczema.

Third is the Harvard site, but I don't have the web
URL at this moment, but it is a good one to review.

Other steps: I have tried Virgin Coconut oil for the
past month. The oil helps keep my sking soft and
moisturized, and it does wonders for keeping my hair
soft and manageable after a shampoo. I can't tell
whether it is helping my dermatitis per se yet. I will
continue trying it.

Lastly, several months ago, I subscribed to the EFT
(Emotional Freedom Techniques) course by Gary Craig
and although I haven't found it to be a magic bullet
yet, I'm still experimenting. This is a tapping system
on energy channels of the body (accupuncture) that has
found a large following and there are testimonials
that it has cured may emotional/medical related
ailments including psoriasis and eczema, headaches,
fear of heights, aches and pains, etc. If you are
interested, go to www.emofree.com.

Yesterday I went to the military hospital in
Washington, DC called Walter Reed to participate in
their week long "Patch Test" to determine whether I am
subject to "contact" dermatitis, meaning if there are
substances that come into contact with my skin causing
the my rash to flare up. Many years aog, I have taken
the allergy test for my hay fever which ties in with
my diagnosis of dermatitis, so I am surprised that you
have the skin problem but no allergies.

The hospital just opened a "Liver Center" and I was
going to ask the head of the department whether he
felt that liver cleansing would help my atopic
dermatitis. I understand that you undergo this
treatment twice a year, but it does not seem to have
positively affected you dermatitis (eliminated it).

I admire your ability, and others who have made posts
to this forum saying that they have been on a rigorous
diet, to stick to a diet regimine. Although you say
you are on a veggie diet, my own thinking is that
there still may be things you eat that may be
associated with your dermatitis flare-ups; in other
words, sensitivity to certain foods to aggravate your
atopic dermatitis vs foods that cause "hives."

I hope the above info will be helpful.

ChingL


--- virtualvenus2002 wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> after 12 mnths of going to doctors (dermatologists
> etc) I've finally
> managed to get a doctor to do a bioposy, and low and
> behold I have
> (what is termed) atopic eczema.
>
> Now, the thing is I don't suffer from any allergies
> (and never have).
> I am a vegan, I don't drink, smoke, and I have am in
> very good shape
> (physically). I take a major vitamin regime every
> day, which had
> included flax seed oil (which I had tried to apply
> topically but got
> such a severe reaction that I stopped). I am now
> trying EPO, and
> (even though I am vegan) am using Medi honey. I
> don't beleive in just
> fixing a "cause" by applying cortizone cream as was
> prescibed, and
> layering creams that don't work anyway. As I told
> the doctors,
> nothing, and I mean nothing works. The only thing
> that eases the
> itching is covering myself in calamine lotion. The
> only place where I
> have the eczema is on my legs (my shins arethe main
> culprit). I
> cleanse regularly, at least 2 times a year, the full
> 2 week liver
> cleanse, although due to my diet there is no effect
> anyway (at least
> it gives my body a break from the vitamins).
>
> Is there anyway who has never suffered this
> ailment(who has been just
> about perfect with their diet) who has found a
> "natural" remedy that
> works. I'm about to get even stricter with my diet
> after I purchased
> a book by Brendan Frazier called "Thrive", and see
> if that make any
> difference. I also don't use any petrochemicals, and
> moved to the
> countryside for a stress reduced lifestyle. My
> husband calls it my
> habit as I cannot stop scratching to the point of
> blood streaming
> down my legs...Frustrating is not a word I would
> even begin to
> describe it with, especially considering I want to
> compete in a
> fitness (physique) competition next year?
>
> Has anyone got any suggestions regarding a cream
> (not doctor
> prescibed) that actually works? Oh, I am also on a
> maintenence dose
> of ESSIAC tea which is a potent blood purifier.
> Anyone who may think
> that this type of affliction may be diet related, I
> beg to differ.
> (unless of course they are a Celiac). My girlfriend
> is a natropath
> and she believes it is a metaphysical
> manisfestation.
>
> Cheers
>
> Charmaine
>
>
>
>
>




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#4742 From: charmario1970@...
Date: Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:03 pm
Subject: Re: Charmaine beans, nuts and caffiene
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Hi Donna,

I only eat raw nuts, mainly cashews & almonds (which are alkaline), I don't
consume any dairy, and when I do eat beans its usually organic canned beans
that are well rinsed, and I rarely (if ever) consume any wheat products, I have
brown rice flour that I consume instead. I cleanse twice a year, and drink
loads of green tea, and loads of water. I don't consume any soft drinks at all
as
it leaches the calcuim from your bone (phosphorous). My rash is persistant, as
I have said to many a doctor before, I am meant to be re-tested for Lupus but
as it wsa only a weak positive last time, and the biopisy came back as Atopic
ecsema, then I don't really feel that its necessary.

Cheers

Charmaine


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#4741 From: charmario1970@...
Date: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: Charamine
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Cheers Donna,

I already take not only EFA's but also grind up flax seeds, and have flax
seed oil. As I'm a vegan I don't consume any animal bi-products.

Regards

Charmaine.


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#4740 From: donnadbd777@...
Date: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:40 am
Subject: Re: Charmaine beans, nuts and caffiene
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I wonder too, besides the question of including healthy fats if you could
ellaborate more on your veggie diet.  Are you using raw nuts?  Im sure you are
aware of the detrimental effects of enzyme inhibitors found in both nuts and
beans if they are not soaked over night. Plus too was wondering if any caffiene
is in your diet?   Eliminating coffee and soft drinks works wonders for my
skin.  I know some vegeterians include dairy and thought perhaps that would make
a
difference for you.  Other than aiding the cod liver oil/Omega 3s,
eliminating caffiene and dairy have made the most significant change.  Only the
best,
Donna


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#4739 From: donnadbd777@...
Date: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:27 am
Subject: Re: Charamine
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Charamine, I have to wonder if cod liver oil would help or they also have
vegeterian omega 3s.  After spending years reading on not only skin diseases but
cancer as well, those who are on a strict vegeteraian diet, I am growing ever
more convinced that the omega 3s, the healthy fats may very well be the
missing link.  Only the best to you. Donna


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#4738 From: "sasha" <sasha@...>
Date: Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:23 pm
Subject: Re: re: atopic eczema adult
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Ching Lee,
Thank you for your post.  Well done, Sir.  I totally forgot to tap (EFT) on
my psoriasis.  I am an Advanced Practitioner.  Oh my!  How could I forget
such a thing!  Well, now I have two more things to tap on - Psoriasis and
Bad Memory.

I wanted to add a couple of things that I have found essential in the
treatment for the reduction of psoriasis.  I say reduction, as these
elements have not been able to eliminate it, but darn close.  One is Ponds
Cold Cream for Dry Skin (the one with the blue top), and the other is Castor
Oil, and oh yes! a third thing I just remembered - Extra Virgin Coconut Oil.
I use these separately for topical use and they relieve the itching,
inflammation, and scaling.  I am finding that it is just as important to
treat internally with good Omega Oils such as Flax Seed Oil and Fish Oil
(Carlsons).

I think next, I am just going to rub raw salmon on my skin and see what
happens. Now I know, I will have a lot more room around me, but other than
that. . . . . . . ?????  <smile> <grin>.
Sasha
-------Original Message-------

From: Ching L Lee
Date: 06/21/05 13:56:05
To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] re: atopic eczema adult

Hi, Charmaine,
I've been a member of this forum for the past 3-4
months and have read many of the messages related to
psoriasis and eczema, but your post struck me as being
very thorough in describing your frustration with
atopic dermatitis.

First, I have suffered on and off with this problem
ever since my military assignment to Panama in 1955.

Regarding your questions:

1. Insatiable itching. Pruritis (proo-ri'-tis or
Proo-ri-go) are medical words for itching. The exact
cause of an itch is unknown and is a complex process.
Ultimately it involves nerves in the skin responding
to certain chemicals such as histamine, and then
processing these signals in the brain.

Pruritis can be a symptom of certain skin diseases,
and sometimes a manifestation of an internal process
or may be due to faulty processing of the itch
sensation within the nervous system.

There are several internal diseases that may cause
itch, the most common example is kidney failure. Other
types of internal diseases include some type of liver
disease, thyroid hormone levels, some blood disorders
such as iron deficiency anemia, polycythemia vera, and
multiple myeloma. Moreover, certain neurologic
conditions such as pinched nerves and strokes may also
lead to itch.

Above info was quoted from an American Academy of
Dermatology pamphlet.

2. Sometimes, it is valuable just to control the
itching, particularly when it becomes maddening. You
say that calamine lotion is helpful to you. I've found
a lotion called "SARNA" which contains 0.5% menthol
and 0.5% camphor to be very helpful in my case. Atarax
(hydroxyzine HCL) is a pill taken at night is helpful
for itching and because it makes one sleepy, it should
be taken with caution during the day if you're driving
a car.

I've used all sorts of corticosteroid creams such as
aristocort, hydrocortisone, kenalog/Lidex,
triamcinolione, and the most potent topical steroid,
clobetasol. In addition, I have been put on prednisone
whenever my flareups get very, very serious, but I try
to avoid this treatment. I've also tried so called
non-topical steroids such as Protopic and Elidel which
are now  on the FDA "conditionally" approved list;
when they were first released to the public 3-4 years
ago, the drug companies advertised that they were the
best thing since chopsticks because they suppressed
the immune system,  but neither worked effectively for
me. Also, anti-histamines can be of help to control
itching, such as Allegra, Zyrtec, or Claritin; I
believe all are prescription regulated.

If you are up to it, I recommend three web sites to
visit to get a good understanding of what the medical
profession say about atopic dermatitis. (some others
may have naturalpath or holistic web sites for you to
visit, but I will leave it to them).

First is www.medicinenet.com. Go to the TAB that
discusses Diseases and Conditions, then scoll down to
common focused topics and click on "Skin."

Second is www.mayoclinic.com. Go to dermatitis/eczema.

Third is the Harvard site, but I don't have the web
URL at this moment, but it is a good one to review.

Other steps: I have tried Virgin Coconut oil for the
past month. The oil helps keep my sking soft and
moisturized, and it does wonders for keeping my hair
soft and manageable after a shampoo. I can't tell
whether it is helping my dermatitis per se yet. I will
continue trying it.

Lastly, several months ago, I subscribed to the EFT
(Emotional Freedom Techniques) course by Gary Craig
and although I haven't found it to be a magic bullet
yet, I'm still experimenting. This is a tapping system
on energy channels of the body (accupuncture) that has
found a large following and there are testimonials
that it has cured may emotional/medical related
ailments including psoriasis and eczema, headaches,
fear of heights, aches and pains, etc. If you are
interested, go to www.emofree.com.

Yesterday I went to the military hospital in
Washington, DC called Walter Reed to participate in
their week long "Patch Test" to determine whether I am
subject to "contact" dermatitis, meaning if there are
substances that come into contact with my skin causing
the my rash to flare up. Many years aog, I have taken
the allergy test for my hay fever which ties in with
my diagnosis of dermatitis, so I am surprised that you
have the skin problem but no allergies.

The hospital just opened a "Liver Center" and I was
going to ask the head of the department whether he
felt that liver cleansing would help my atopic
dermatitis. I understand that you undergo this
treatment twice a year, but it does not seem to have
positively affected you dermatitis (eliminated it).

I admire your ability, and others who have made posts
to this forum saying that they have been on a rigorous
diet, to stick to a diet regimine. Although you say
you are on a veggie diet, my own thinking is that
there still may be things you eat that may be
associated with your dermatitis flare-ups; in other
words, sensitivity to certain foods to aggravate your
atopic dermatitis vs foods that cause "hives."

I hope the above info will be helpful.

ChingL


--- virtualvenus2002 <charmario1970@...> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> after 12 mnths of going to doctors (dermatologists
> etc) I've finally
> managed to get a doctor to do a bioposy, and low and
> behold I have
> (what is termed) atopic eczema.
>
> Now, the thing is I don't suffer from any allergies
> (and never have).
> I am a vegan, I don't drink, smoke, and I have am in
> very good shape
> (physically). I take a major vitamin regime every
> day, which had
> included flax seed oil (which I had tried to apply
> topically but got
> such a severe reaction that I stopped). I am now
> trying EPO, and
> (even though I am vegan) am using Medi honey. I
> don't beleive in just
> fixing a "cause" by applying cortizone cream as was
> prescibed, and
> layering creams that don't work anyway. As I told
> the doctors,
> nothing, and I mean nothing works. The only thing
> that eases the
> itching is covering myself in calamine lotion. The
> only place where I
> have the eczema is on my legs (my shins arethe main
> culprit). I
> cleanse regularly, at least 2 times a year, the full
> 2 week liver
> cleanse, although due to my diet there is no effect
> anyway (at least
> it gives my body a break from the vitamins).
>
> Is there anyway who has never suffered this
> ailment(who has been just
> about perfect with their diet) who has found a
> "natural" remedy that
> works. I'm about to get even stricter with my diet
> after I purchased
> a book by Brendan Frazier called "Thrive", and see
> if that make any
> difference. I also don't use any petrochemicals, and
> moved to the
> countryside for a stress reduced lifestyle. My
> husband calls it my
> habit as I cannot stop scratching to the point of
> blood streaming
> down my legs...Frustrating is not a word I would
> even begin to
> describe it with, especially considering I want to
> compete in a
> fitness (physique) competition next year?
>
> Has anyone got any suggestions regarding a cream
> (not doctor
> prescibed) that actually works? Oh, I am also on a
> maintenence dose
> of ESSIAC tea which is a potent blood purifier.
> Anyone who may think
> that this type of affliction may be diet related, I
> beg to differ.
> (unless of course they are a Celiac). My girlfriend
> is a natropath
> and she believes it is a metaphysical
> manisfestation.
>
> Cheers
>
> Charmaine
>
>
>
>
>




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#4737 From: Ching L Lee <viet_veteran68@...>
Date: Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:53 pm
Subject: Re: re: atopic eczema adult
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Hi, Charmaine,
I've been a member of this forum for the past 3-4
months and have read many of the messages related to
psoriasis and eczema, but your post struck me as being
very thorough in describing your frustration with
atopic dermatitis.

First, I have suffered on and off with this problem
ever since my military assignment to Panama in 1955.

Regarding your questions:

1. Insatiable itching. Pruritis (proo-ri'-tis or
Proo-ri-go) are medical words for itching. The exact
cause of an itch is unknown and is a complex process.
Ultimately it involves nerves in the skin responding
to certain chemicals such as histamine, and then
processing these signals in the brain.

Pruritis can be a symptom of certain skin diseases,
and sometimes a manifestation of an internal process
or may be due to faulty processing of the itch
sensation within the nervous system.

There are several internal diseases that may cause
itch, the most common example is kidney failure. Other
types of internal diseases include some type of liver
disease, thyroid hormone levels, some blood disorders
such as iron deficiency anemia, polycythemia vera, and
multiple myeloma. Moreover, certain neurologic
conditions such as pinched nerves and strokes may also
lead to itch.

Above info was quoted from an American Academy of
Dermatology pamphlet.

2. Sometimes, it is valuable just to control the
itching, particularly when it becomes maddening. You
say that calamine lotion is helpful to you. I've found
a lotion called "SARNA" which contains 0.5% menthol
and 0.5% camphor to be very helpful in my case. Atarax
(hydroxyzine HCL) is a pill taken at night is helpful
for itching and because it makes one sleepy, it should
be taken with caution during the day if you're driving
a car.

I've used all sorts of corticosteroid creams such as
aristocort, hydrocortisone, kenalog/Lidex,
triamcinolione, and the most potent topical steroid,
clobetasol. In addition, I have been put on prednisone
whenever my flareups get very, very serious, but I try
to avoid this treatment. I've also tried so called
non-topical steroids such as Protopic and Elidel which
are now  on the FDA "conditionally" approved list;
when they were first released to the public 3-4 years
ago, the drug companies advertised that they were the
best thing since chopsticks because they suppressed
the immune system,  but neither worked effectively for
me. Also, anti-histamines can be of help to control
itching, such as Allegra, Zyrtec, or Claritin; I
believe all are prescription regulated.

If you are up to it, I recommend three web sites to
visit to get a good understanding of what the medical
profession say about atopic dermatitis. (some others
may have naturalpath or holistic web sites for you to
visit, but I will leave it to them).

First is www.medicinenet.com. Go to the TAB that
discusses Diseases and Conditions, then scoll down to
common focused topics and click on "Skin."

Second is www.mayoclinic.com. Go to dermatitis/eczema.

Third is the Harvard site, but I don't have the web
URL at this moment, but it is a good one to review.

Other steps: I have tried Virgin Coconut oil for the
past month. The oil helps keep my sking soft and
moisturized, and it does wonders for keeping my hair
soft and manageable after a shampoo. I can't tell
whether it is helping my dermatitis per se yet. I will
continue trying it.

Lastly, several months ago, I subscribed to the EFT
(Emotional Freedom Techniques) course by Gary Craig
and although I haven't found it to be a magic bullet
yet, I'm still experimenting. This is a tapping system
on energy channels of the body (accupuncture) that has
found a large following and there are testimonials
that it has cured may emotional/medical related
ailments including psoriasis and eczema, headaches,
fear of heights, aches and pains, etc. If you are
interested, go to www.emofree.com.

Yesterday I went to the military hospital in
Washington, DC called Walter Reed to participate in
their week long "Patch Test" to determine whether I am
subject to "contact" dermatitis, meaning if there are
substances that come into contact with my skin causing
the my rash to flare up. Many years aog, I have taken
the allergy test for my hay fever which ties in with
my diagnosis of dermatitis, so I am surprised that you
have the skin problem but no allergies.

The hospital just opened a "Liver Center" and I was
going to ask the head of the department whether he
felt that liver cleansing would help my atopic
dermatitis. I understand that you undergo this
treatment twice a year, but it does not seem to have
positively affected you dermatitis (eliminated it).

I admire your ability, and others who have made posts
to this forum saying that they have been on a rigorous
diet, to stick to a diet regimine. Although you say
you are on a veggie diet, my own thinking is that
there still may be things you eat that may be
associated with your dermatitis flare-ups; in other
words, sensitivity to certain foods to aggravate your
atopic dermatitis vs foods that cause "hives."

I hope the above info will be helpful.

ChingL


--- virtualvenus2002 <charmario1970@...> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> after 12 mnths of going to doctors (dermatologists
> etc) I've finally
> managed to get a doctor to do a bioposy, and low and
> behold I have
> (what is termed) atopic eczema.
>
> Now, the thing is I don't suffer from any allergies
> (and never have).
> I am a vegan, I don't drink, smoke, and I have am in
> very good shape
> (physically). I take a major vitamin regime every
> day, which had
> included flax seed oil (which I had tried to apply
> topically but got
> such a severe reaction that I stopped). I am now
> trying EPO, and
> (even though I am vegan) am using Medi honey. I
> don't beleive in just
> fixing a "cause" by applying cortizone cream as was
> prescibed, and
> layering creams that don't work anyway. As I told
> the doctors,
> nothing, and I mean nothing works. The only thing
> that eases the
> itching is covering myself in calamine lotion. The
> only place where I
> have the eczema is on my legs (my shins arethe main
> culprit). I
> cleanse regularly, at least 2 times a year, the full
> 2 week liver
> cleanse, although due to my diet there is no effect
> anyway (at least
> it gives my body a break from the vitamins).
>
> Is there anyway who has never suffered this
> ailment(who has been just
> about perfect with their diet) who has found a
> "natural" remedy that
> works. I'm about to get even stricter with my diet
> after I purchased
> a book by Brendan Frazier called "Thrive", and see
> if that make any
> difference. I also don't use any petrochemicals, and
> moved to the
> countryside for a stress reduced lifestyle. My
> husband calls it my
> habit as I cannot stop scratching to the point of
> blood streaming
> down my legs...Frustrating is not a word I would
> even begin to
> describe it with, especially considering I want to
> compete in a
> fitness (physique) competition next year?
>
> Has anyone got any suggestions regarding a cream
> (not doctor
> prescibed) that actually works? Oh, I am also on a
> maintenence dose
> of ESSIAC tea which is a potent blood purifier.
> Anyone who may think
> that this type of affliction may be diet related, I
> beg to differ.
> (unless of course they are a Celiac). My girlfriend
> is a natropath
> and she believes it is a metaphysical
> manisfestation.
>
> Cheers
>
> Charmaine
>
>
>
>
>




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#4736 From: "Alison" <Callesto71@...>
Date: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:21 am
Subject: RE: Dr Bowen Aspartame flares psoriasis Psoriasis and autoimmunity
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Subject: Re: Dr Bowen Aspartame flares psoriasis [eczemapsoriasis] Psoriasis
and autoimmunity

Dear Rick,

Fluoride elimination from public water sources was a
top priority in US Public Health until 1940.  Fluoride
was recognized to ruin both teeth and bones, and to
cause brain lesions: And it had to be removed from all
public water supplies! When both the Soviets and Nazis
demonstrated that one part per million fluorides in
their POW's water supply for one year rendered them
incapable of independent thought or resistance; We in
the US were suddenly told: "You have to have one part
per million fluoride in your drinking water "TO SAVE
YOUR TEETH!"

Two dentist friends of mine, Dr Lange and Dr Screslet,
went on a public speaking campaign in Portland,
Oregon: Telling everyone: "Do not let them fluoridate
your water, It will ruin your teeth, not save them!
When they fluorided Portland's water supply, all the
chinchillas in town promptly died!  Thus demonstrating
the fluoride put into the water supply there to be
thousands of times greater than allowed by law.

When I for six weeks used the Aspartame laced LO Cal
Kool Aid (Just as soon as it hit the market: I was an
MD who really believed Searle to be an "ethical
Pharmaceutical concern.); It aged me thirty years in
six weeks, and left me with the picture of Lou
Gherig's disease. It is such a potent brain washing
agent that I continued to consume Aspartame, while
very perplexed that my mind and body were falling
apart, and even though my RN wife was screaming at me:
"Jim, get of the damn Aspartame, it is killing you!"
I was of great expertise in applied biochemistry, so
very quickly made myself very expert about the applied
toxic biochemistry of Aspartame. When I started
speaking out against Aspartames devastatingly toxic
biochemistry, I had just stepped into a death trap. I
soon found out that all Satanic organizations,
including Zionism and Israel were out to protect
Aspartame, and destroy everyone who would dare speak
out against it, and were indeed the very ones who had
broken everything decent in our government to force
this horribly toxic brain washing agent upon us!!

I have accumulated and put together the documents I
have been writing over the last two weeks, and they
will follow: However, I like you are amazed at the
public's apathy about government corruption, including
the very destruction of our minds! TV and the major
Media, which the Zionists control, is of course a
great part of the problem. Then, of course Aspartame,
MSG and Fluoride have greatly succeeded in chemically
brainwashing us. When in 1952 they started putting
fluoride into the water, they also started feeding us
chelated aluminum in many forms to deteriorate our
mental capacities.
For Example: they put what they called "Calcium
Saccharine" into almost everything made with
saccharine. It is indeed not just calcium saccharine!
What it indeed, truly is: Calcium Sacharro Aluminates:
A very highly toxic and highly absorbed form of
aluminum.

Sincerely,
Dr Jim Bowen



Dear Dr Brad and Dr Betty:

  Here are a few points missing from the stated
concerns about the toxic effects of the methanol from
Aspartame:

1. The toxic effects of toxic methyl esters like
Aspartame are far greater than just merely the
toxicity from that same amount of ingested methanol.
Over 20 years ago, when I reviewed the scientific
evidence then made available about the toxicity of
methyl esters: 1.The larger the Esther molecule, the
more toxic the end result thereof: Domoic acid, which
caused  a massive outbreak of neurological disease
from contaminated shellfish on Prince Edward Island,
is one example. The agent responsible for "Guam
Parkinson Disease" is another well-known example.

  2. The greater the toxicity of the other components
in any ester molecule, the greater will be the
resulting toxicity of the larger compound. (Of the
larger entire methyl ester, i.e. Aspartame.) The same
rule applies to the neural excitotoxins (dicarboxylic
amino acids, like MSG.) Therefore, the human damage
resulting from Aspartame is far greater than if it
merely came from the summation of the products of the
obligatory metabolism of methanol.  The excitotoxic
effects of Aspartame are also vastly greater than if
they merely came from the amount of aspartic acid
released from the digestion of Aspartame.
(In fact, over ten different poisonings are well known
to result from the digestion and metabolism of
Aspartame!)

   In the case of Aspartame, it moreover creates its
own diketopiperazine form in the finished products,
and in the digestive processes.  Because its
diketopiperazine form has more chemical energy, and
has a far greater molecular reach in the body's
tissues, both in terms of molecular cross-linking, and
in terms of disruption of enzymatic processes, the
diketopiperazine  form of Aspartame is even far more
exceedingly toxic.

  The original rat brain tumor studies, which were done
with the diketopiperazine form of Aspartame in the
Wistar rat, (Which is the proper rat to test for brain
tumorigenicity of any given chemical,) showed that
Aspartame is the number one brain tumor causing
substance ever discovered by science! In simple words,
it caused the highest incidence of brain tumors ever
found to be caused by any
Chemical in the Wistar rat, even though Aspartame was
only given at a level of three cans a pop a day for 60
days! (Strictly scaled down to the size of the
animals.) This was only 5% of the legally required
dosage level, and 8% of the legally required length of
time for brain tumor studies in the rat.

  This information gives a good index of how toxic
Aspartame really is, both as a neural excitotoxin and
as a methyl ester poison. (As well as an immune system
damaging agent!) The diketopiperazine class of
chemicals is exceedingly important in the plastics
industry, because they are molecularly so
far-reaching, and will result in high energy
cross-linking with other chemicals to form plastics
polymers.

(Operating surgeons are now reporting they can
actually see the plastics which are formed in the
brains of Aspartame's victims!)

As I reviewed results from human Aspartame exposure
over a span of time in its victims, comparing what
happened to patients from any given amount of ingested
Aspartame, to the results there from, I came to the
conclusion that as a neural excitotoxin it is about
5000 times as potent as MSG, (milligram per
milligram.) The methyl ester/ formaldehyde/formic
acid/ carbon monoxide poisoning it produces, also
results in formaldehyde hypersensitivity. (AND: CHz:
Generalized chemical hypersensitivity disease)

People, who are thus so sensitized, react to
formaldehyde fumes in amounts that are millions of
times less than would even be noticed by those not
sensitized. (The original government studies showed
they can react violently to only one billionth of a
gram of formaldehyde!) The toxic effects from methyl
esters and the ill effects from many other chemicals
are also similarly multiplied in their ill effects
upon these unfortunate Aspartame victims.

This sensitization factor makes the Aspartame molecule
millions of times more potently toxic than it would be
from a similar amount of methanol, due to the hyper
sensitization summation of these ill effects from the
Aspartame molecule.

  The rat studies however, give some idea of how
extreme this Aspartame toxicity really is: When you
consider that that this was only 5% of the required
dosage level, and it in only 60 days it caused the
highest incidence or brain cancer any chemical ever
tested ever caused in that strain of rat, it gives you
the true picture of what ballpark we are in with
Aspartame: AND: With the "organized crime" genius of
Donald Rumsfeld, demonstrated in his using organized
crime techniques to break everything decent in our
government in order to get this heinous chemical
marketed to the public as safe, hygienic, and even
perhaps
beneficial!

Which: Given any merit, whatsoever, in the licensing
proceedings, would see Aspartame totally barred from
market!  It is the most highly marketed and most
highly advertised chemical in the history of the
world!  It was advertised in our National Media as
completely safe, hygienic, and highly likely to
produce greatly therapeutic benefits to its consumers.
Rumsfeld then forced the FDA to quit counting, after
it counted 92 diseases caused by Aspartame. The CDC
got to 115 before Rumsfeld shut them down on that same
issue!

Sincerely,

Dr. Jim Bowen



Yes,  Dear Dr Rebecca Carley:

Satan wants to be known as Lucifer, ("the
illuminator",) as though he had never fallen into
rebellion and jealous hatred of humanity: Who will
replace him as the highest order of creation: After we
complete our Christ's Grace conferred redemption,
Re-Creation, and millennial training. All this occurs
only after we become veterans of this conflict, which
is no more than a one time only demonstration of evil
for the entire boundless, endless, eternal universe.
AND: As if Satan were still God's messenger to the
angelic host, he now even pretends to even be a Deity,
and promises his followers: He, Satan, will come once
again for them, and with them will make this world
just entirely  "heavenly" for, and with them all. (Ha,
Ha, Ha!) The present Nation of Israel is just another
one such satanically created disillusionment for the
entire world!

And: Zionism is what has so corrupted our Media,
Professions, and Governments for Satan, their evil
master. Open, Avid Zionists are the main force and
people, which I have had the most opposition from in
my efforts to alert the public and professions about
the deadly Aspartame! They have made it abundantly
clear: They see it as their patriotic duty to Zionism
and Israel to see to it that we succumb to Aspartame!
Masons and other Satanists have likewise done
everything they could to destroy me and my ministry!

The Illuminati, actually, foolishly believe in and
support all this! After the flood, the sun was the
most brilliant object in the sky with which to
bedazzle men, so Satan made "Sunday" his Black
Sabbath. (Six days back from God's appointed Seventh
day Sabbath! Part of the "666") The
Illuminati/Luciferians are presently direct
descendents of, or followers of the Palestinian
pagans, which Jehovah God promised to exodus Israel
that he would drive them out with hornets, when the
children of Israel marched directly into Palestine, as
they were specifically directed to do by God through
Moses.

So the Illuminati will once again honor Satan by once
more seeing laws passed to enforce the notion of
"Sunday Sacredness."  All of which will finally come
to include a death penalty! This, by prophetic
prediction, will be the last event by which the
Illuminati mark the destruction of this world! Almost
all pagan religions incorporate some form of Sun
Worship in their observances. So Catholicism merely
made paganism into a more "Christian" form thereof, by
creating "Sunday Sabbath Sacredness," as one of their
precepts for Christianity, along with many other pagan
observances: Such as confession to an earthly priest,
etc. The Bible clearly teaches: Call no man your
father! Also: Confess your sins to no man!

  Of course, as is obvious from their present actions,
Satan's followers can never become "good Christians:"
In spite of all the power we are presently seeing them
accumulate: So the course of the world is on a steep
decline into oblivion, as your experience and mine
alike, now so clearly indicate. When ancient Israel
refused to obey that direct command from God to march
on into Palestine, they were sent back into the
dessert to die therein, until another, perhaps more
obedient generation arose! The Palestinian pagans,
however, knowing Israel would be back, formed even
more direct allegiances with Satan to defeat God's
purposes for Israel: Which they did by getting Israel
to disobey God, violate his ten commandments, and they
often even totally rejected God and refused to worship
him. Every time, for over a thousand years, this ended
up with the Palestinian Pagans being allowed to
overwhelm them and place them in servitude to
themselves, along with their idolatry: Which Idolatry,
the Israelites already  had in every case: Already
adopted in place of Jehovah's protection, anyway!

Then, after they were conquered and humbled, God would
send Israel prophets to remind them of their ministry
to which they had been previously called, and then
often: "deliverer/prophets" would be provided them,
and Israel and later Judah, would regain their God
given sovereignty: Only to always abandon it for the
attractions of living a pagan life and believing in
idols, instead of following the simple plans which God
had so clearly taught them as a blessing to themselves
and to their society! (Does that sound like
today?)When the Babylonian exile was used by Jehovah
to teach them, once and for all the cost of idolatry:
That small remnant then, once again as they grew
stronger, returned to a different form of idolatry;
that of corrupting theism, so that it became even
worse than open idolatry in their hands!

When, about 150 years before Christ, the Jews begged
their way into the Pagan Roman Empire, the pagan
Romans made them part of a Palestinian "Tetrarchy"
which included Judah, Moab, Ammon, and the Edomites.
God had told them "You shall not have the Edomite
amongst you:" (Along with all the other pagan nations,
who were in the Palestinian Tetrarchy with them.) The
Romans were particularly secular, and put everything
up for bids including the Jewish High Priesthood, and
their kingship. So they ended up with an Edomite
dynasty as their kings: "The Idumean Dynasty"! The
Jews had always rejected Jehovah God in one form or
another, so once again, by trusting in
Pagan Rome, instead of Jehovah, they ended up under
the dominion of Palestinian Pagan Edom!

The Herods were Idumean Kings, and committed many
crimes including, with the eager cooperation of the
Jewish Priesthood, and at their insistence, crucifying
God Himself in the form of Jesus Christ, His Divine
Son. This act marked the end for any notion of the
Jews being: "God's chosen people."  Utter destruction
awaited them: In the fall of Jerusalem to the Roman
general Titus:  AD 70, when almost all the free,
wealthy Jews, except the Christian ones, who
universally obeyed Christ's instructions to flee the
city while the roman army briefly withdrew before
leveling the city, were eliminated from the face of
the earth.

Israel, (Jacob) had prophesied this when blessing his
sons just before his death. In plain words he said:
The scepter shall not depart Judah until Christ shall
come:" Pointing out, that with the crucifixion of
Jehovah himself, the Jewish Nation would come to its
final end, in so far as Jehovah God was concerned.
Many Jews today make a great pretence of being "God's
chosen people," and most Christian pastors, who are
functionally really just trained Zionistic
infiltrators, repeat this false and now worthless
phraseology. They are trained this way in Seminary
training to create a false, Christ demeaning pretense
of God's purposes for the nation of Israel! All
denominations, which I have ever listened to, persist
in this satanically inspired, diabolical nonsense!

All of this long and superb cooperation with Satan
himself, put the Palestinian Pagans into a very
prolonged and special relationship with Satan and his
evil angels, who possess them all. They had been his
agency in totally defeating Jehovah's will for Israel,
and even saw to the crucifixion of His Divine Son by
the Romans! They then, as the "Illuminati" have
"reigned over" much of the earth ever since: As
dynasties, high ranking military, and "Giants of
Finance", etc.

Most of today's Jews are not even remotely diluted
descendants of God's anciently chosen, and then
rejected people! (Because they ultimately rejected,
and crucified Jehovah himself!) When the Satanist,
Genghis Kahn, over ran Asia and much of Europe, he
created his own equivalent of the CIA, plus regional
governments, militia, and administrations. He thus
formed his "Kzarin Empire," over the territories which
he had seized. I have never even looked up any of
this, but only relate it just as it was told me by
Jewish historians. (I am of Jewish ancestry.) So the
spelling probably is not at all current! I would
appreciate if you could refer me to any concise
history of all this material.

Genghis Kahn, then promptly fled back to Mongolia to
deal with a palace rebellion, dying therein. His
Mongolian Kzarin empire promptly collapsed, leaving
behind quite an array of very powerful Satanists! The
Pope dealt with all of this, by sending word that they
would all have to become Catholic Christians, or he
would make war upon them and destroy them and their
influence. 94% of Jewry today, is of this "Ashkenazi"
descent.

Their typical Eurasian appearance is merely because
they are indeed Eurasians, with a heavily Mongolian
genome! Whereupon, they very cleverly responded: "Oh
no! Your honor, The Pope: We are Jews!" The whole,
entire Zionist Israeli movement of today was generated
by these Eurasian "Ashkenazi" Satanists, and the
Illuminati Satanists, not by the descendants of the
refugees who were exiled out of Palestine over
thousands of years by the Babylonians, Assyrians,
Medo-Persians, Greeks, and Romans. They were living
quite peaceably amongst the nations where they were,
in each case, exiled into. The Illuminati, including
Adolph Hitler (secretly a Rothschild) have needlessly
engendered irrational persecution of Jews in other
nations to motivate their loyalty and return to
Israel. The whole Zionist movement arose from the
efforts of the Illuminati Satanists and Ashkenazi
Satanists! So it should be no surprise that I have
their opposition in trying to expose Satan's flagship
in his fleet of chemicals, which are out there to
devastate humanity: Aspartame!

The Illuminati used the sinking of the Titanic as one
way of eliminating much of the resistance to their
will for modern America and Europe. The sinking of the
Titanic was no accident. It was a planned execution of
the most powerful true Christians in the world of
their day. The captain of the titanic was a Jesuit
agent sent on a suicide mission: (Which explains his
illogically incompetent performance of needlessly
sending the Titanic full speed, directly into a field
of icebergs!) One of my Irish ancestors, a "Murray,"
was the richest man in the world of his day. He went
down with the Titanic.

With all possible true Christian influences being
eliminated by many such evil agencies: The Illuminati
and Zionists are forming up Satan's "New World Order."
The Tudor dynasty was one such Illuminati dynasty. The
Bushes are direct descendents of Tudor King George
III, who was run out of America about 1780. So we have
recently been reigned over by people who consider
themselves King George IV and V.

  The present actions of the Illuminati and the Bushes,
with their Satanist cooperators, constitute no less
than the utter destruction of Democratic Protestant
America. This clearly explains why Aspartame, a
horribly destructive brain washing Agent, which is
very bitter and not even sweet, was imposed upon us,
as supposedly a sweetener! It also explains why vast
universal immunization programs, which only increase
the individual's susceptibility to the diseases they
are said to protect against, and actually result in
immunodeficiency and autoimmunity problems, are given
to our newborns and children in order to brain damage
them!

I, like all Democracy loving Americans, would like to
think we may see a "latter rain" of Righteousness and
Democracy before the Illuminati and Tudors utterly
wreck our world, and the society within it. The Bible
prophecies, however, only indicate that the Second
coming of Christ will be just like it was in Noah's
day: The sudden destruction of every thing will
unexpectedly come upon the world. So, understanding
Bible prophecy, we can watch the Illuminati and the
Bushes immerse the whole world in hell, and rejoice
that our, and our children's eternal salvation,
depends only upon our acceptance of God's Redemptive
Grace, through Jesus Christ His Son. Our part is
merely obedience to the acceptance of his will for the
world. Those lacking this very specific Biblical
assurance will indeed have: "Their hearts failing them
for fear," just as the Bible prophesies!

Sincerely,

Dr Jim Bowen


Dear Dr Betty Martini,

All information I have previously related about
Aspartame was exceptionally well known to the "Insider
Agencies" in our power structure, long before
Aspartame was even marketed. (For Example: Although
tested at only 5% of the required dose for only 8% of
the legally required time period, it was found to be,
and well known to be: The number one brain tumor
carcinogen ever discovered by science!)

In the next six months after Aspartame was put into
pop, the Brain Cancer incidence rate in the US jumped
10%, the Diabetes incidence rate 35%.) I also found,
for example, numerous patents which clearly
demonstrated all of this foreknowledge! Aspartame's
marketing by Rumsfeld was an organized crime,
protected by Zionists, Mosssad, B'nai B'rith, Masonry,
and all other satanic organizations, or it could never
have happened, giving their immense influence in our
Professions, Media, Political processes, and
Government! Donald Rumsfeld is "the godfather in the
Jewish Mafia." So, he was able to control the
influence of all these agencies, making all of them
willful contributors to this satanically induced
devastation of humanity!

My medical license was revoked after I was, in 1992,
examined by Drs Benedict and Arnold, the heads of the
American Psychiatric and Psychological Associations,
(Both were open, and Avid Zionists!) who made the
"Expert" certification that: "The belief that
Aspartame is toxic, is a delusion so dangerous that it
totally disables a doctor from the practice of
medicine." My attorney then even seized pre-existing
evidence, like the first set of toxicity studies,
which thoroughly condemned Aspartame (as mentioned
above) and turned it over to them, thus forever
removing it from circulation for them.

  My attorney, Charles Fleck of Lansing, MI, who then
pimped off my medical career, by missing every filing
date, and totally failing to get any shred of evidence
of Aspartame's extreme toxicity into evidence for the
hearing, complained to me: "Jim you just can't fight
the Jews: They are just far too powerful in our
government!" He became, functionally, rather just
another Mossad agent! He VERY arrogantly prided
himself of his self proclaimed "Christianity",
whatever that was worth to humanity?

Dan Rather, also an open avid Zionist, saw to it that
the significant information I already had to offer the
public in 1983 via the CBS evening news, was forbidden
the public any  report thereof: By his deliberate
angry shouts at the news crew: "No, We are not going
to show any of these patients who have been damaged by
Aspartame! We are not going to talk about formaldehyde
toxicity, and the resulting sensitivity! We are not
going to show the public any of these toxicity charts!
On and on he raved! Dan and Donald Rumsfeld at that
very moment jointly owned a party ranch out west! Dan
did take two copies of my toxicity chart, one for
himself, and one for Rumsfeld! Did either of those two
avid Zionists share any of that vitally needed
information with the public? They in fact turned the
occasion around to absolutely terrorize all the
doctors in the entire northwest from ever even
possibly thinking that Aspartame could even possibly
be toxic.

The Day following the CBS broadcast, (which only white
washed Aspartame): The Newspapers in Vancouver,
Washington; Stevenson, Washington; White Salmon,
Washington, Goldendale, Washington; Pasco, Washington;
Kennewick, Washington; Richland, Washington; Longview,
Washington; Kelso, Washington; Hood River, Oregon, The
Dalles, Oregon; and Portland, Oregon all carried
headlines: "Dr Bowen charged with Quackery for
criticizing Aspartame on TV."

Jewish Godfather, Donald Rumsfeld, and all those
around him are ardent Zionists. We are presently in a
totally unnecessary and highly destructive war in the
Middle East at the bequest of Mossad and Israel, while
Bush and his cadre are bankrupting the US treasury,
and at this financially, and budgetary stressed moment
giving away immense amounts of funds to the super
rich, including the Giant Petroleum interests, who
already are experiencing the greatest boom they have
ever seen. Is there even any trace of sanity in our
present Republican government?

The Bushes have even stolen our Social Security funds,
thus impoverishing all the rest of us, while they are
making us indeed very, very needy! (Notice how the
Zionist Media fail to even to mention that our SS was
absconded with?) 911 was only a Bush production/ show,
totally preventable, had the then existent agencies
not been paralyzed by presidential order to create it.
It was used by the Media, not to demonstrate Bush
incompetence and collusion, as it should have, but a
media blitz was created to make the American public
believe that war on behalf of Israel and robbing us of
our rights and personal liberties would create a badly
needed security for us. All of which was entirely a
Satan and Bush fabrication!

Those who will only examine the existing evidence will
see that the twin towers were not even brought down by
the airliners crashing into them but rather were
brought down by internal demolition explosives. Like
wise, the pentagon was never even hit by a jetliner,
but rather by a cruise missile. These are only a few
examples of Ardent Zionists protecting, and prompting
Aspartame, and the dissolute politics surrounding it!
If my Zionist Jewish co-laborers don't want to wake up
to the fact that Israel is just another phony satanic
project: Well OK, but they should get ready to face
the fact that the rest of the world already knows it!
And hopefully, there may be some interesting times
ahead for all Zionists, as the world comes to demand
justice in place of all the injustices Israel has been
wreaking upon the world: This includes Aspartame!
Could the failure to do so very well even result in a
nuclear attack upon the US, by a world which demands
just retribution?

Why would some of my Jewish co-laborers ignore all
this plain evidence? Simply because Israel is a very
successful Satanic ploy, with which he has seduced
many Jews into believing they are better than the rest
of us, and more deserving, besides. (And of everything
else of which Satan can convince them to be of any
benefit to Israel or to Jews): And, is therefore good!
Even though inherently exceedingly evil: And it is
therefore to be mindlessly supported by them,
regardless of its satanic nature, intent, and origins.
"All the better!:" according to Satan, whom they dare
not question: "For the sake of Israel." "All the
better!:" If only it degrades the rest of humanity,
while advantaging Jews.

Jewish friends of mine return from Israel, after
having had all their dental work done entirely free
therein, whereby having had their mouths restored to
pristine dental condition, while Americans, who
support all of this, cannot even afford to retain
their own teeth! (Which teeth are also terribly
damaged by fluorides, which the Zionist Media, Mossad,
and their controlled US Government induced us to use
to damage our minds and independent reasoning
capabilities, by promising us: "It would SAVE OUR
TEETH!") My thus benefited Jewish friends, just cry
out: What a beautiful system! Oh! What A beautiful
place!" Zionist Satanists could truly care less what
they are doing to everyone else!

I know that many of my best Aspartame co-laborers are
still Zionistic Jews, who do not want to face the
facts of what we are really into here, and may very
well feel very personally threatened and angry because
of their irrational Zionism induced Jewish paranoia!
However! Rather than thinking their irrational anger
should control their very words and acts, and those of
EVERONE ELSE, as well: They better start facing up to
the facts that Israel and Zionism are merely Satanic
fabrications, and this is what explains why we are
being poisoned by Aspartame, MSG, fluoride and, AS
WELL!: Ineffective highly damaging vaccination
programs, which are universally being forced upon
helpless newborns to damage their developing brains.
(See my upcoming book:"Sweet Mystery in The Present
Darkness.")

Meanwhile, we and they are supposed to just look the
other way, while the Tudor/Bushes (King George IV and
V) and their Republican supporters ride rough shod
over our economy, and our freedoms!  The Bushes and
Republicans are deliberately bankrupting our nation,
both economically and morally!(In the larger sense of
the word, such as devastating the population and
environment by needlessly spraying around depleted
uranium upon the environment like it was popcorn to
feed the pigeons, and force feeding our own troops
Aspartame.) All of which sees the health of other
countries devastated! Over 50% of our Persian Gulf One
Vets already are out on medical disability, and are
frequently fostering deformed babies!(They were also
force fed Aspartame and given dangerous vaccines which
truly offered them no proven protection, both of which
only destroyed their immune systems, and directly
induced their genetic degradation!) (Ch 23 of book)

So, Dr Betty Martini: I greatly appreciate you, and
fully realize you have selflessly given your all and
everything for the benefit of humanity on these
exceedingly important and highly perilous issues. I am
one of the few people who realize you routinely work
over twenty hours per day for the good of mankind,
depriving yourself even of badly needed rest. I also
personally know you to be one of the most intelligent,
knowledgeable, caring and brilliant people I have ever
had the chance to make the acquaintance of. I am
exceedingly thankful for this opportunity to have
known and worked with you! I however, will not be
restrained from ADDRESSING THE LARGER PICTURE, of
necessity, lest Satan gain anonymity for his heinous
misdeeds, and thereby enable and assist his programs
which also allows him to vastly hinder our attempts to
alert the public to these horribly damaging agents and
programs which he and his, have thrust upon us, and
into all of us!

Sincerely,

Dr Jim Bowen

Dear Deborah,

I like your picture and what you are doing. If you
know a lady who might like to become a romantic chum
for a political dissident like myself, Please refer
her to me.

I have been run like a fox before the hounds for over
twenty years, for the "crime" of speaking out about
the poisonous biochemistry of Aspartame in 1983.
Ladies my age (I am now 65) want security above all
else they seek from a man. In all honesty, I have to
advise any interests, right from the start, that I am
targeted and will always be so. Moreover, if they
develop a relationship with me, they and theirs will
also become "targets" thereby.

One example is Mary Stoddard from Dallas Texas. She
and I were friends, and collaborators on the Aspartame
issue, for about ten years. They threatened her life,
as well as those of her children and grandchildren.
One day a package came to her boy's house.
Unthinkingly, he did just what I would do: He took it
inside. About ten minutes later the police arrived and
arrested him. When he objected that he was no
criminal, they told him: "We are arresting you for
child pornography. You are a child pornographer!" That
unopened package had three films of CP in it, which
technically made him a CPer.

You can forget about a fair trial if you are being
sent down because you are related to the crusade
against Aspartame. He was sent to prison with a
maximum sentence for Child Pornography!  I know, I was
also falsely convicted of a crime, and given the
maximum sentence too! I fired my pimp attorney and
conducted my own appeal. This was fairly easy for me
to do, because they had violated fair trial standards
about three hundred times while conducting the trial,
in order to falsely convict! So, I picked out about a
hundred examples from the trial transcript, and wrote
them up for the Washington State Court of Appeals,
with appropriate references from trial law rules
established by the Appellate and Supreme Courts in
their rulings. The Court of Appeals, of course
overturned, but just a few days before my maximum
sentence was completed!

In the case of Mary's son, she had to do just one
thing for them to get her boy out of prison. She
treacherously turned on me, and helped them make the
revocation of my medical license for speaking out
about the toxic biochemistry of Aspartame, a permanent
one. Which got her boy out of prison, but he was still
listed as a "child pornographer." He could not even
get a job or house. In order to give her boy a life,
once again: They made Mary pack up all her files on
Aspartame, load them into her car, and drive to
Rockville Maryland, near Washington D.C., and
personally lug them into the FDA, and turn all her
Aspartame files over to the FDA, with the words: "I
leave this matter in your good hands." Whereupon, her
boy was given a clean record, and could go on with his
life!

I had been sent to Maximum Security: Walla Walla,
Washington: The most dangerous cell block in the
Nation. They averaged a murder a week in that one cell
block, while I was therein. When I had arrived at the
Receiving Units in Shelton, the Warden immediately
called me in: "You are a forty five year old doctor
with no prior criminal record. You are only accused of
getting a little too fresh with an adult female. They
don't send men to prison for that!  I have reviewed
your record; they did not even have any evidence
against you. Moreover, your conviction is under
appeal, you cannot even legally be confined in here! I
will have you out of here in a couple days." The
entirety and related experiences are fully documented
in my soon forthcoming book: "Sweet Mystery in the
Present Darkness: Whatever Happened to We Scientists
Who First Spoke Out Against Aspartame?"  The book is
presently all written, I now just have to now get it
reviewed and published.

Booth Gardner, the Washington Governor, was a B'Nai
B'rith Satanist. A few weeks after marrying her in an
April/November marriage, he had the sole remaining
Weyerhaeuser heir bumped off, and took over
Weyerhaeuser! Because of his influence in Jewish
Satanism the murder was never even investigated, and
he went on to become the Governor of Washington. So, I
went to Max and served the sentenced time therein,
even while my conviction was under appeal! While
therein, I had syndicate contracts on my life,
straight from the Governor, and Donald Rumsfeld, the
godfather in the Jewish Mafia. You did not live for
very long in that place, with even a "cigarette
contract" on you.  I remain alive after many many well
paid hits only by the protection of our Lord and
Savior, Jesus Christ! The well paid professional hits
on my life very suddenly stopped about five years ago.
I believe the Satanists got tired of proving time and
again: "The Lord can indeed protect a man and his
ministry, should he choose to do so!"

So please feel free to publish my letter, in case
there is one hardy female soul out there who might
choose to befriend a man like myself.

Sincerely,

Dr Jim Bowen



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--- marla <talithakumi@...> wrote:

> Thanks, Stirling.  I did check out that link.  Seems
> interesting.  I'm a
> little unclear about what it was saying regarding
> potatoes.  Fried and baked
> are bad, but what about boiled?  Or are just
> potatoes bad for us?  What
> other foods create these acrylamides?  Kinda hard to
> know which foods do
> that unless you have good knowledge of what each
> food contains?  I feel like
> I need to be a chemist.  I think I really need to
> re-read all that.  Also
> about the citric acid.  What are they saying there?
> No vitamin C?  But isn
> t C good for collagen formation as well as so many
> other things to keep the
> body running well?  I think I need to re-read that
> again as well.  What I
> don't understand is "why" can we handle these foods
> that so many other
> people can handle?  Seems that avoiding these foods
> are just treating the
> symptoms, but not the underlying cause.  There must
> be a reason why these
> foods trigger psoriasis in us.
>
>
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 03/20/05 16:16:53
> To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] Psoriasis and
> autoimmunity
>
>
> Hi Marla, It's not only gluten that plays a role in
> psoriasis have you have
> alook at Psoriasis is Avoidable (easy to find just
> type in google search
> bar)
>
> marla <talithakumi@...> wrote:
> Hello Sterling:
>
> Thanks for your response and information.  Your
> information inspired me to
> look into celiac a little bit, and aside from the
> skin problems, I don't
> seem to have any of the other symptoms.  Although I
> understand one doesn't
> have to have all the symptoms.  I have had a
> complete chemistry panel done
> recently including B12, folate, complete iron panel,
> lipid, and TSH and
> Thyroxine.  All were within normal ranges except
> potassium was a tad low and
> iron high.  I am currently not anemic.  So I don't
> "think" I have a major
> problem with assimilating nutrition.  But just in
> case, I have decided to
> cut out gluten to see if I see any improvements.
> Thanks for the heads up.
>
> So you don't think there are any other causes for
> psoriasis?  That seems a
> bit odd to me since I've been reading various
> stories of people recovering
> from psoriasis who have done different things to
> overcome it.  Not all claim
> they avoid gluten.
>
> Marla
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 03/17/05 03:02:00
> To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] Psoriasis and
> autoimmunity
>
> Hi Marla,
> Please excuse me butting in Carissa
>
> The cause of Psoriasis has been found. It was the
> Swiss whom first
> publicised the fact that Acrylamide will trigger
> Calcium Protea and the
> citric is involved.
>
> Calcium Protea is another name for Psoriasis.
>
> If l took samples of your normal skin it will show
> the total calcium
> concentration is remarkably constant, ranging
> between 2.5 and 2.75mM with 2
> 5mM the average value. (10mg per 100ml)
>
> But if l took samples of the affected areas
> (Psoriasis) it will show the
> total calcium concentration is many times that of
> the average value hence
> the name Calcium Protea.
>
> The real question that should be asked why has your
> immune system is failing
> to cope. I for one don't think l will ever meet a
> psoriasis sufferer who won
> t prove to be a celiac (but there can be other
> reasons why your immune
> system is malfunctioning).
>
> Stirling Strauss
>
> Psoriasis Is Avoidable
>
>
> marla <talithakumi@...> wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> As I've been doing a little research, I occasionally
> come across the thought
> that psoriasis is an autoimmune problem.
> Specifically, the T-cells in the
> skin are causing trouble.  I get regular blood
> counts and my lymphocyctes
> are within normal range.  It would seem reasonable
> to me that if the
> lymphocyctes were out of control then perhaps the
> lymphocycte count may not
> reflect normal on a complete blood count (although I
> realize that may not
> necessarily be true, but it's a though process I'm
> going through here).  So,
> my question is do any of you psoriasis sufferers
> ever get complete blood
> counts, and are your white counts within normal
> parameters?  Specifically
> the lymphocyctes.
>
> I'm going to see if I can hunt down some books to
> see why they think the
> T-lymphs are causing psoriasis.  It seems that there
> could be several
> reasons for psoriasis, so may have to attack it at
> different levels.  I've
> read hormones can also cause skin problems, but my
> thyroid tests came back
> normal.
>
> Carisa, what are your thoughts in regard to
> psoriasis being autoimmune
> related?
>
> Thanks for any comments or insights.
>
> Marla
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>




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#4735 From: "James D. Bowen, MD" <bowendrjim@...>
Date: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:47 am
Subject: Re: Dr Bowen Aspartame flares psoriasis Psoriasis and autoimmunity
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Dear Rick,

Fluoride elimination from public water sources was a
top priority in US Public Health until 1940.  Fluoride
was recognized to ruin both teeth and bones, and to
cause brain lesions: And it had to be removed from all
public water supplies! When both the Soviets and Nazis
demonstrated that one part per million fluorides in
their POW’s water supply for one year rendered them
incapable of independent thought or resistance; We in
the US were suddenly told: “You have to have one part
per million fluoride in your drinking water “TO SAVE
YOUR TEETH!”

Two dentist friends of mine, Dr Lange and Dr Screslet,
went on a public speaking campaign in Portland,
Oregon: Telling everyone: “Do not let them fluoridate
your water, It will ruin your teeth, not save them!
When they fluorided Portland’s water supply, all the
chinchillas in town promptly died!  Thus demonstrating
the fluoride put into the water supply there to be
thousands of times greater than allowed by law.

When I for six weeks used the Aspartame laced LO Cal
Kool Aid (Just as soon as it hit the market: I was an
MD who really believed Searle to be an “ethical
Pharmaceutical concern.); It aged me thirty years in
six weeks, and left me with the picture of Lou
Gherig’s disease. It is such a potent brain washing
agent that I continued to consume Aspartame, while
very perplexed that my mind and body were falling
apart, and even though my RN wife was screaming at me:
“Jim, get of the damn Aspartame, it is killing you!”
I was of great expertise in applied biochemistry, so
very quickly made myself very expert about the applied
toxic biochemistry of Aspartame. When I started
speaking out against Aspartames devastatingly toxic
biochemistry, I had just stepped into a death trap. I
soon found out that all Satanic organizations,
including Zionism and Israel were out to protect
Aspartame, and destroy everyone who would dare speak
out against it, and were indeed the very ones who had
broken everything decent in our government to force
this horribly toxic brain washing agent upon us!!

I have accumulated and put together the documents I
have been writing over the last two weeks, and they
will follow: However, I like you are amazed at the
public’s apathy about government corruption, including
the very destruction of our minds! TV and the major
Media, which the Zionists control, is of course a
great part of the problem. Then, of course Aspartame,
MSG and Fluoride have greatly succeeded in chemically
brainwashing us. When in 1952 they started putting
fluoride into the water, they also started feeding us
chelated aluminum in many forms to deteriorate our
mental capacities.
For Example: they put what they called “Calcium
Saccharine” into almost everything made with
saccharine. It is indeed not just calcium saccharine!
What it indeed, truly is: Calcium Sacharro Aluminates:
A very highly toxic and highly absorbed form of
aluminum.

Sincerely,
Dr Jim Bowen



Dear Dr Brad and Dr Betty:

  Here are a few points missing from the stated
concerns about the toxic effects of the methanol from
Aspartame:

1. The toxic effects of toxic methyl esters like
Aspartame are far greater than just merely the
toxicity from that same amount of ingested methanol.
Over 20 years ago, when I reviewed the scientific
evidence then made available about the toxicity of
methyl esters: 1.The larger the Esther molecule, the
more toxic the end result thereof: Domoic acid, which
caused  a massive outbreak of neurological disease
from contaminated shellfish on Prince Edward Island,
is one example. The agent responsible for “Guam
Parkinson Disease” is another well-known example.

  2. The greater the toxicity of the other components
in any ester molecule, the greater will be the
resulting toxicity of the larger compound. (Of the
larger entire methyl ester, i.e. Aspartame.) The same
rule applies to the neural excitotoxins (dicarboxylic
amino acids, like MSG.) Therefore, the human damage
resulting from Aspartame is far greater than if it
merely came from the summation of the products of the
obligatory metabolism of methanol.  The excitotoxic
effects of Aspartame are also vastly greater than if
they merely came from the amount of aspartic acid
released from the digestion of Aspartame.
(In fact, over ten different poisonings are well known
to result from the digestion and metabolism of
Aspartame!)

   In the case of Aspartame, it moreover creates its
own diketopiperazine form in the finished products,
and in the digestive processes.  Because its
diketopiperazine form has more chemical energy, and
has a far greater molecular reach in the body's
tissues, both in terms of molecular cross-linking, and
in terms of disruption of enzymatic processes, the
diketopiperazine  form of Aspartame is even far more
exceedingly toxic.

  The original rat brain tumor studies, which were done
with the diketopiperazine form of Aspartame in the
Wistar rat, (Which is the proper rat to test for brain
tumorigenicity of any given chemical,) showed that
Aspartame is the number one brain tumor causing
substance ever discovered by science! In simple words,
it caused the highest incidence of brain tumors ever
found to be caused by any
Chemical in the Wistar rat, even though Aspartame was
only given at a level of three cans a pop a day for 60
days! (Strictly scaled down to the size of the
animals.) This was only 5% of the legally required
dosage level, and 8% of the legally required length of
time for brain tumor studies in the rat.

  This information gives a good index of how toxic
Aspartame really is, both as a neural excitotoxin and
as a methyl ester poison. (As well as an immune system
damaging agent!) The diketopiperazine class of
chemicals is exceedingly important in the plastics
industry, because they are molecularly so
far-reaching, and will result in high energy
cross-linking with other chemicals to form plastics
polymers.

(Operating surgeons are now reporting they can
actually see the plastics which are formed in the
brains of Aspartame’s victims!)

As I reviewed results from human Aspartame exposure
over a span of time in its victims, comparing what
happened to patients from any given amount of ingested
Aspartame, to the results there from, I came to the
conclusion that as a neural excitotoxin it is about
5000 times as potent as MSG, (milligram per
milligram.) The methyl ester/ formaldehyde/formic
acid/ carbon monoxide poisoning it produces, also
results in formaldehyde hypersensitivity. (AND: CHz:
Generalized chemical hypersensitivity disease)

People, who are thus so sensitized, react to
formaldehyde fumes in amounts that are millions of
times less than would even be noticed by those not
sensitized. (The original government studies showed
they can react violently to only one billionth of a
gram of formaldehyde!) The toxic effects from methyl
esters and the ill effects from many other chemicals
are also similarly multiplied in their ill effects
upon these unfortunate Aspartame victims.

This sensitization factor makes the Aspartame molecule
millions of times more potently toxic than it would be
from a similar amount of methanol, due to the hyper
sensitization summation of these ill effects from the
Aspartame molecule.

  The rat studies however, give some idea of how
extreme this Aspartame toxicity really is: When you
consider that that this was only 5% of the required
dosage level, and it in only 60 days it caused the
highest incidence or brain cancer any chemical ever
tested ever caused in that strain of rat, it gives you
the true picture of what ballpark we are in with
Aspartame: AND: With the “organized crime” genius of
Donald Rumsfeld, demonstrated in his using organized
crime techniques to break everything decent in our
government in order to get this heinous chemical
marketed to the public as safe, hygienic, and even
perhaps
beneficial!

Which: Given any merit, whatsoever, in the licensing
proceedings, would see Aspartame totally barred from
market!  It is the most highly marketed and most
highly advertised chemical in the history of the
world!  It was advertised in our National Media as
completely safe, hygienic, and highly likely to
produce greatly therapeutic benefits to its consumers.
Rumsfeld then forced the FDA to quit counting, after
it counted 92 diseases caused by Aspartame. The CDC
got to 115 before Rumsfeld shut them down on that same
issue!

Sincerely,

Dr. Jim Bowen



Yes,  Dear Dr Rebecca Carley:

Satan wants to be known as Lucifer, (“the
illuminator”,) as though he had never fallen into
rebellion and jealous hatred of humanity: Who will
replace him as the highest order of creation: After we
complete our Christ’s Grace conferred redemption,
Re-Creation, and millennial training. All this occurs
only after we become veterans of this conflict, which
is no more than a one time only demonstration of evil
for the entire boundless, endless, eternal universe.
AND: As if Satan were still God's messenger to the
angelic host, he now even pretends to even be a Deity,
and promises his followers: He, Satan, will come once
again for them, and with them will make this world
just entirely  “heavenly” for, and with them all. (Ha,
Ha, Ha!) The present Nation of Israel is just another
one such satanically created disillusionment for the
entire world!

And: Zionism is what has so corrupted our Media,
Professions, and Governments for Satan, their evil
master. Open, Avid Zionists are the main force and
people, which I have had the most opposition from in
my efforts to alert the public and professions about
the deadly Aspartame! They have made it abundantly
clear: They see it as their patriotic duty to Zionism
and Israel to see to it that we succumb to Aspartame!
Masons and other Satanists have likewise done
everything they could to destroy me and my ministry!

The Illuminati, actually, foolishly believe in and
support all this! After the flood, the sun was the
most brilliant object in the sky with which to
bedazzle men, so Satan made “Sunday” his Black
Sabbath. (Six days back from God’s appointed Seventh
day Sabbath! Part of the “666”) The
Illuminati/Luciferians are presently direct
descendents of, or followers of the Palestinian
pagans, which Jehovah God promised to exodus Israel
that he would drive them out with hornets, when the
children of Israel marched directly into Palestine, as
they were specifically directed to do by God through
Moses.

So the Illuminati will once again honor Satan by once
more seeing laws passed to enforce the notion of
“Sunday Sacredness.”  All of which will finally come
to include a death penalty! This, by prophetic
prediction, will be the last event by which the
Illuminati mark the destruction of this world! Almost
all pagan religions incorporate some form of Sun
Worship in their observances. So Catholicism merely
made paganism into a more “Christian” form thereof, by
creating “Sunday Sabbath Sacredness,” as one of their
precepts for Christianity, along with many other pagan
observances: Such as confession to an earthly priest,
etc. The Bible clearly teaches: Call no man your
father! Also: Confess your sins to no man!

  Of course, as is obvious from their present actions,
Satan’s followers can never become “good Christians:”
In spite of all the power we are presently seeing them
accumulate: So the course of the world is on a steep
decline into oblivion, as your experience and mine
alike, now so clearly indicate. When ancient Israel
refused to obey that direct command from God to march
on into Palestine, they were sent back into the
dessert to die therein, until another, perhaps more
obedient generation arose! The Palestinian pagans,
however, knowing Israel would be back, formed even
more direct allegiances with Satan to defeat God’s
purposes for Israel: Which they did by getting Israel
to disobey God, violate his ten commandments, and they
often even totally rejected God and refused to worship
him. Every time, for over a thousand years, this ended
up with the Palestinian Pagans being allowed to
overwhelm them and place them in servitude to
themselves, along with their idolatry: Which Idolatry,
the Israelites already  had in every case: Already
adopted in place of Jehovah’s protection, anyway!

Then, after they were conquered and humbled, God would
send Israel prophets to remind them of their ministry
to which they had been previously called, and then
often: “deliverer/prophets” would be provided them,
and Israel and later Judah, would regain their God
given sovereignty: Only to always abandon it for the
attractions of living a pagan life and believing in
idols, instead of following the simple plans which God
had so clearly taught them as a blessing to themselves
and to their society! (Does that sound like
today?)When the Babylonian exile was used by Jehovah
to teach them, once and for all the cost of idolatry:
That small remnant then, once again as they grew
stronger, returned to a different form of idolatry;
that of corrupting theism, so that it became even
worse than open idolatry in their hands!

When, about 150 years before Christ, the Jews begged
their way into the Pagan Roman Empire, the pagan
Romans made them part of a Palestinian “Tetrarchy”
which included Judah, Moab, Ammon, and the Edomites.
God had told them “You shall not have the Edomite
amongst you:” (Along with all the other pagan nations,
who were in the Palestinian Tetrarchy with them.) The
Romans were particularly secular, and put everything
up for bids including the Jewish High Priesthood, and
their kingship. So they ended up with an Edomite
dynasty as their kings: “The Idumean Dynasty”! The
Jews had always rejected Jehovah God in one form or
another, so once again, by trusting in
Pagan Rome, instead of Jehovah, they ended up under
the dominion of Palestinian Pagan Edom!

The Herods were Idumean Kings, and committed many
crimes including, with the eager cooperation of the
Jewish Priesthood, and at their insistence, crucifying
God Himself in the form of Jesus Christ, His Divine
Son. This act marked the end for any notion of the
Jews being: “God’s chosen people.”  Utter destruction
awaited them: In the fall of Jerusalem to the Roman
general Titus:  AD 70, when almost all the free,
wealthy Jews, except the Christian ones, who
universally obeyed Christ’s instructions to flee the
city while the roman army briefly withdrew before
leveling the city, were eliminated from the face of
the earth.

Israel, (Jacob) had prophesied this when blessing his
sons just before his death. In plain words he said:
The scepter shall not depart Judah until Christ shall
come:” Pointing out, that with the crucifixion of
Jehovah himself, the Jewish Nation would come to its
final end, in so far as Jehovah God was concerned.
Many Jews today make a great pretence of being “God’s
chosen people,” and most Christian pastors, who are
functionally really just trained Zionistic
infiltrators, repeat this false and now worthless
phraseology. They are trained this way in Seminary
training to create a false, Christ demeaning pretense
of God’s purposes for the nation of Israel! All
denominations, which I have ever listened to, persist
in this satanically inspired, diabolical nonsense!

All of this long and superb cooperation with Satan
himself, put the Palestinian Pagans into a very
prolonged and special relationship with Satan and his
evil angels, who possess them all. They had been his
agency in totally defeating Jehovah’s will for Israel,
and even saw to the crucifixion of His Divine Son by
the Romans! They then, as the “Illuminati” have
“reigned over” much of the earth ever since: As
dynasties, high ranking military, and “Giants of
Finance”, etc.

Most of today’s Jews are not even remotely diluted
descendants of God’s anciently chosen, and then
rejected people! (Because they ultimately rejected,
and crucified Jehovah himself!) When the Satanist,
Genghis Kahn, over ran Asia and much of Europe, he
created his own equivalent of the CIA, plus regional
governments, militia, and administrations. He thus
formed his “Kzarin Empire,” over the territories which
he had seized. I have never even looked up any of
this, but only relate it just as it was told me by
Jewish historians. (I am of Jewish ancestry.) So the
spelling probably is not at all current! I would
appreciate if you could refer me to any concise
history of all this material.

Genghis Kahn, then promptly fled back to Mongolia to
deal with a palace rebellion, dying therein. His
Mongolian Kzarin empire promptly collapsed, leaving
behind quite an array of very powerful Satanists! The
Pope dealt with all of this, by sending word that they
would all have to become Catholic Christians, or he
would make war upon them and destroy them and their
influence. 94% of Jewry today, is of this “Ashkenazi”
descent.

Their typical Eurasian appearance is merely because
they are indeed Eurasians, with a heavily Mongolian
genome! Whereupon, they very cleverly responded: “Oh
no! Your honor, The Pope: We are Jews!” The whole,
entire Zionist Israeli movement of today was generated
by these Eurasian “Ashkenazi” Satanists, and the
Illuminati Satanists, not by the descendants of the
refugees who were exiled out of Palestine over
thousands of years by the Babylonians, Assyrians,
Medo-Persians, Greeks, and Romans. They were living
quite peaceably amongst the nations where they were,
in each case, exiled into. The Illuminati, including
Adolph Hitler (secretly a Rothschild) have needlessly
engendered irrational persecution of Jews in other
nations to motivate their loyalty and return to
Israel. The whole Zionist movement arose from the
efforts of the Illuminati Satanists and Ashkenazi
Satanists! So it should be no surprise that I have
their opposition in trying to expose Satan’s flagship
in his fleet of chemicals, which are out there to
devastate humanity: Aspartame!

The Illuminati used the sinking of the Titanic as one
way of eliminating much of the resistance to their
will for modern America and Europe. The sinking of the
Titanic was no accident. It was a planned execution of
the most powerful true Christians in the world of
their day. The captain of the titanic was a Jesuit
agent sent on a suicide mission: (Which explains his
illogically incompetent performance of needlessly
sending the Titanic full speed, directly into a field
of icebergs!) One of my Irish ancestors, a “Murray,”
was the richest man in the world of his day. He went
down with the Titanic.

With all possible true Christian influences being
eliminated by many such evil agencies: The Illuminati
and Zionists are forming up Satan’s “New World Order.”
The Tudor dynasty was one such Illuminati dynasty. The
Bushes are direct descendents of Tudor King George
III, who was run out of America about 1780. So we have
recently been reigned over by people who consider
themselves King George IV and V.

  The present actions of the Illuminati and the Bushes,
with their Satanist cooperators, constitute no less
than the utter destruction of Democratic Protestant
America. This clearly explains why Aspartame, a
horribly destructive brain washing Agent, which is
very bitter and not even sweet, was imposed upon us,
as supposedly a sweetener! It also explains why vast
universal immunization programs, which only increase
the individual’s susceptibility to the diseases they
are said to protect against, and actually result in
immunodeficiency and autoimmunity problems, are given
to our newborns and children in order to brain damage
them!

I, like all Democracy loving Americans, would like to
think we may see a “latter rain” of Righteousness and
Democracy before the Illuminati and Tudors utterly
wreck our world, and the society within it. The Bible
prophecies, however, only indicate that the Second
coming of Christ will be just like it was in Noah’s
day: The sudden destruction of every thing will
unexpectedly come upon the world. So, understanding
Bible prophecy, we can watch the Illuminati and the
Bushes immerse the whole world in hell, and rejoice
that our, and our children’s eternal salvation,
depends only upon our acceptance of God’s Redemptive
Grace, through Jesus Christ His Son. Our part is
merely obedience to the acceptance of his will for the
world. Those lacking this very specific Biblical
assurance will indeed have: “Their hearts failing them
for fear,” just as the Bible prophesies!

Sincerely,

Dr Jim Bowen


Dear Dr Betty Martini,

All information I have previously related about
Aspartame was exceptionally well known to the "Insider
Agencies" in our power structure, long before
Aspartame was even marketed. (For Example: Although
tested at only 5% of the required dose for only 8% of
the legally required time period, it was found to be,
and well known to be: The number one brain tumor
carcinogen ever discovered by science!)

In the next six months after Aspartame was put into
pop, the Brain Cancer incidence rate in the US jumped
10%, the Diabetes incidence rate 35%.) I also found,
for example, numerous patents which clearly
demonstrated all of this foreknowledge! Aspartame’s
marketing by Rumsfeld was an organized crime,
protected by Zionists, Mosssad, B’nai B’rith, Masonry,
and all other satanic organizations, or it could never
have happened, giving their immense influence in our
Professions, Media, Political processes, and
Government! Donald Rumsfeld is “the godfather in the
Jewish Mafia.” So, he was able to control the
influence of all these agencies, making all of them
willful contributors to this satanically induced
devastation of humanity!

My medical license was revoked after I was, in 1992,
examined by Drs Benedict and Arnold, the heads of the
American Psychiatric and Psychological Associations,
(Both were open, and Avid Zionists!) who made the
"Expert" certification that: “The belief that
Aspartame is toxic, is a delusion so dangerous that it
totally disables a doctor from the practice of
medicine.” My attorney then even seized pre-existing
evidence, like the first set of toxicity studies,
which thoroughly condemned Aspartame (as mentioned
above) and turned it over to them, thus forever
removing it from circulation for them.

  My attorney, Charles Fleck of Lansing, MI, who then
pimped off my medical career, by missing every filing
date, and totally failing to get any shred of evidence
of Aspartame’s extreme toxicity into evidence for the
hearing, complained to me: “Jim you just can’t fight
the Jews: They are just far too powerful in our
government!” He became, functionally, rather just
another Mossad agent! He VERY arrogantly prided
himself of his self proclaimed “Christianity”,
whatever that was worth to humanity?

Dan Rather, also an open avid Zionist, saw to it that
the significant information I already had to offer the
public in 1983 via the CBS evening news, was forbidden
the public any  report thereof: By his deliberate
angry shouts at the news crew: “No, We are not going
to show any of these patients who have been damaged by
Aspartame! We are not going to talk about formaldehyde
toxicity, and the resulting sensitivity! We are not
going to show the public any of these toxicity charts!
On and on he raved! Dan and Donald Rumsfeld at that
very moment jointly owned a party ranch out west! Dan
did take two copies of my toxicity chart, one for
himself, and one for Rumsfeld! Did either of those two
avid Zionists share any of that vitally needed
information with the public? They in fact turned the
occasion around to absolutely terrorize all the
doctors in the entire northwest from ever even
possibly thinking that Aspartame could even possibly
be toxic.

The Day following the CBS broadcast, (which only white
washed Aspartame): The Newspapers in Vancouver,
Washington; Stevenson, Washington; White Salmon,
Washington, Goldendale, Washington; Pasco, Washington;
Kennewick, Washington; Richland, Washington; Longview,
Washington; Kelso, Washington; Hood River, Oregon, The
Dalles, Oregon; and Portland, Oregon all carried
headlines: “Dr Bowen charged with Quackery for
criticizing Aspartame on TV.”

Jewish Godfather, Donald Rumsfeld, and all those
around him are ardent Zionists. We are presently in a
totally unnecessary and highly destructive war in the
Middle East at the bequest of Mossad and Israel, while
Bush and his cadre are bankrupting the US treasury,
and at this financially, and budgetary stressed moment
giving away immense amounts of funds to the super
rich, including the Giant Petroleum interests, who
already are experiencing the greatest boom they have
ever seen. Is there even any trace of sanity in our
present Republican government?

The Bushes have even stolen our Social Security funds,
thus impoverishing all the rest of us, while they are
making us indeed very, very needy! (Notice how the
Zionist Media fail to even to mention that our SS was
absconded with?) 911 was only a Bush production/ show,
totally preventable, had the then existent agencies
not been paralyzed by presidential order to create it.
It was used by the Media, not to demonstrate Bush
incompetence and collusion, as it should have, but a
media blitz was created to make the American public
believe that war on behalf of Israel and robbing us of
our rights and personal liberties would create a badly
needed security for us. All of which was entirely a
Satan and Bush fabrication!

Those who will only examine the existing evidence will
see that the twin towers were not even brought down by
the airliners crashing into them but rather were
brought down by internal demolition explosives. Like
wise, the pentagon was never even hit by a jetliner,
but rather by a cruise missile. These are only a few
examples of Ardent Zionists protecting, and prompting
Aspartame, and the dissolute politics surrounding it!
If my Zionist Jewish co-laborers don't want to wake up
to the fact that Israel is just another phony satanic
project: Well OK, but they should get ready to face
the fact that the rest of the world already knows it!
And hopefully, there may be some interesting times
ahead for all Zionists, as the world comes to demand
justice in place of all the injustices Israel has been
wreaking upon the world: This includes Aspartame!
Could the failure to do so very well even result in a
nuclear attack upon the US, by a world which demands
just retribution?

Why would some of my Jewish co-laborers ignore all
this plain evidence? Simply because Israel is a very
successful Satanic ploy, with which he has seduced
many Jews into believing they are better than the rest
of us, and more deserving, besides. (And of everything
else of which Satan can convince them to be of any
benefit to Israel or to Jews): And, is therefore good!
Even though inherently exceedingly evil: And it is
therefore to be mindlessly supported by them,
regardless of its satanic nature, intent, and origins.
“All the better!:” according to Satan, whom they dare
not question: “For the sake of Israel.” “All the
better!:” If only it degrades the rest of humanity,
while advantaging Jews.

Jewish friends of mine return from Israel, after
having had all their dental work done entirely free
therein, whereby having had their mouths restored to
pristine dental condition, while Americans, who
support all of this, cannot even afford to retain
their own teeth! (Which teeth are also terribly
damaged by fluorides, which the Zionist Media, Mossad,
and their controlled US Government induced us to use
to damage our minds and independent reasoning
capabilities, by promising us: “It would SAVE OUR
TEETH!”) My thus benefited Jewish friends, just cry
out: What a beautiful system! Oh! What A beautiful
place!” Zionist Satanists could truly care less what
they are doing to everyone else!

I know that many of my best Aspartame co-laborers are
still Zionistic Jews, who do not want to face the
facts of what we are really into here, and may very
well feel very personally threatened and angry because
of their irrational Zionism induced Jewish paranoia!
However! Rather than thinking their irrational anger
should control their very words and acts, and those of
EVERONE ELSE, as well: They better start facing up to
the facts that Israel and Zionism are merely Satanic
fabrications, and this is what explains why we are
being poisoned by Aspartame, MSG, fluoride and, AS
WELL!: Ineffective highly damaging vaccination
programs, which are universally being forced upon
helpless newborns to damage their developing brains.
(See my upcoming book:”Sweet Mystery in The Present
Darkness.”)

Meanwhile, we and they are supposed to just look the
other way, while the Tudor/Bushes (King George IV and
V) and their Republican supporters ride rough shod
over our economy, and our freedoms!  The Bushes and
Republicans are deliberately bankrupting our nation,
both economically and morally!(In the larger sense of
the word, such as devastating the population and
environment by needlessly spraying around depleted
uranium upon the environment like it was popcorn to
feed the pigeons, and force feeding our own troops
Aspartame.) All of which sees the health of other
countries devastated! Over 50% of our Persian Gulf One
Vets already are out on medical disability, and are
frequently fostering deformed babies!(They were also
force fed Aspartame and given dangerous vaccines which
truly offered them no proven protection, both of which
only destroyed their immune systems, and directly
induced their genetic degradation!) (Ch 23 of book)

So, Dr Betty Martini: I greatly appreciate you, and
fully realize you have selflessly given your all and
everything for the benefit of humanity on these
exceedingly important and highly perilous issues. I am
one of the few people who realize you routinely work
over twenty hours per day for the good of mankind,
depriving yourself even of badly needed rest. I also
personally know you to be one of the most intelligent,
knowledgeable, caring and brilliant people I have ever
had the chance to make the acquaintance of. I am
exceedingly thankful for this opportunity to have
known and worked with you! I however, will not be
restrained from ADDRESSING THE LARGER PICTURE, of
necessity, lest Satan gain anonymity for his heinous
misdeeds, and thereby enable and assist his programs
which also allows him to vastly hinder our attempts to
alert the public to these horribly damaging agents and
programs which he and his, have thrust upon us, and
into all of us!

Sincerely,

Dr Jim Bowen

Dear Deborah,

I like your picture and what you are doing. If you
know a lady who might like to become a romantic chum
for a political dissident like myself, Please refer
her to me.

I have been run like a fox before the hounds for over
twenty years, for the “crime” of speaking out about
the poisonous biochemistry of Aspartame in 1983.
Ladies my age (I am now 65) want security above all
else they seek from a man. In all honesty, I have to
advise any interests, right from the start, that I am
targeted and will always be so. Moreover, if they
develop a relationship with me, they and theirs will
also become "targets" thereby.

One example is Mary Stoddard from Dallas Texas. She
and I were friends, and collaborators on the Aspartame
issue, for about ten years. They threatened her life,
as well as those of her children and grandchildren.
One day a package came to her boy’s house.
Unthinkingly, he did just what I would do: He took it
inside. About ten minutes later the police arrived and
arrested him. When he objected that he was no
criminal, they told him: “We are arresting you for
child pornography. You are a child pornographer!” That
unopened package had three films of CP in it, which
technically made him a CPer.

You can forget about a fair trial if you are being
sent down because you are related to the crusade
against Aspartame. He was sent to prison with a
maximum sentence for Child Pornography!  I know, I was
also falsely convicted of a crime, and given the
maximum sentence too! I fired my pimp attorney and
conducted my own appeal. This was fairly easy for me
to do, because they had violated fair trial standards
about three hundred times while conducting the trial,
in order to falsely convict! So, I picked out about a
hundred examples from the trial transcript, and wrote
them up for the Washington State Court of Appeals,
with appropriate references from trial law rules
established by the Appellate and Supreme Courts in
their rulings. The Court of Appeals, of course
overturned, but just a few days before my maximum
sentence was completed!

In the case of Mary’s son, she had to do just one
thing for them to get her boy out of prison. She
treacherously turned on me, and helped them make the
revocation of my medical license for speaking out
about the toxic biochemistry of Aspartame, a permanent
one. Which got her boy out of prison, but he was still
listed as a “child pornographer.” He could not even
get a job or house. In order to give her boy a life,
once again: They made Mary pack up all her files on
Aspartame, load them into her car, and drive to
Rockville Maryland, near Washington D.C., and
personally lug them into the FDA, and turn all her
Aspartame files over to the FDA, with the words: “I
leave this matter in your good hands.” Whereupon, her
boy was given a clean record, and could go on with his
life!

I had been sent to Maximum Security: Walla Walla,
Washington: The most dangerous cell block in the
Nation. They averaged a murder a week in that one cell
block, while I was therein. When I had arrived at the
Receiving Units in Shelton, the Warden immediately
called me in: “You are a forty five year old doctor
with no prior criminal record. You are only accused of
getting a little too fresh with an adult female. They
don’t send men to prison for that!  I have reviewed
your record; they did not even have any evidence
against you. Moreover, your conviction is under
appeal, you cannot even legally be confined in here! I
will have you out of here in a couple days.” The
entirety and related experiences are fully documented
in my soon forthcoming book: “Sweet Mystery in the
Present Darkness: Whatever Happened to We Scientists
Who First Spoke Out Against Aspartame?”  The book is
presently all written, I now just have to now get it
reviewed and published.

Booth Gardner, the Washington Governor, was a B’Nai
B’rith Satanist. A few weeks after marrying her in an
April/November marriage, he had the sole remaining
Weyerhaeuser heir bumped off, and took over
Weyerhaeuser! Because of his influence in Jewish
Satanism the murder was never even investigated, and
he went on to become the Governor of Washington. So, I
went to Max and served the sentenced time therein,
even while my conviction was under appeal! While
therein, I had syndicate contracts on my life,
straight from the Governor, and Donald Rumsfeld, the
godfather in the Jewish Mafia. You did not live for
very long in that place, with even a “cigarette
contract” on you.  I remain alive after many many well
paid hits only by the protection of our Lord and
Savior, Jesus Christ! The well paid professional hits
on my life very suddenly stopped about five years ago.
I believe the Satanists got tired of proving time and
again: “The Lord can indeed protect a man and his
ministry, should he choose to do so!”

So please feel free to publish my letter, in case
there is one hardy female soul out there who might
choose to befriend a man like myself.

Sincerely,

Dr Jim Bowen



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--- marla <talithakumi@...> wrote:

> Thanks, Stirling.  I did check out that link.  Seems
> interesting.  I'm a
> little unclear about what it was saying regarding
> potatoes.  Fried and baked
> are bad, but what about boiled?  Or are just
> potatoes bad for us?  What
> other foods create these acrylamides?  Kinda hard to
> know which foods do
> that unless you have good knowledge of what each
> food contains?  I feel like
> I need to be a chemist.  I think I really need to
> re-read all that.  Also
> about the citric acid.  What are they saying there?
> No vitamin C?  But isn
> t C good for collagen formation as well as so many
> other things to keep the
> body running well?  I think I need to re-read that
> again as well.  What I
> don't understand is "why" can we handle these foods
> that so many other
> people can handle?  Seems that avoiding these foods
> are just treating the
> symptoms, but not the underlying cause.  There must
> be a reason why these
> foods trigger psoriasis in us.
>
>
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 03/20/05 16:16:53
> To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] Psoriasis and
> autoimmunity
>
>
> Hi Marla, It's not only gluten that plays a role in
> psoriasis have you have
> alook at Psoriasis is Avoidable (easy to find just
> type in google search
> bar)
>
> marla <talithakumi@...> wrote:
> Hello Sterling:
>
> Thanks for your response and information.  Your
> information inspired me to
> look into celiac a little bit, and aside from the
> skin problems, I don't
> seem to have any of the other symptoms.  Although I
> understand one doesn't
> have to have all the symptoms.  I have had a
> complete chemistry panel done
> recently including B12, folate, complete iron panel,
> lipid, and TSH and
> Thyroxine.  All were within normal ranges except
> potassium was a tad low and
> iron high.  I am currently not anemic.  So I don't
> "think" I have a major
> problem with assimilating nutrition.  But just in
> case, I have decided to
> cut out gluten to see if I see any improvements.
> Thanks for the heads up.
>
> So you don't think there are any other causes for
> psoriasis?  That seems a
> bit odd to me since I've been reading various
> stories of people recovering
> from psoriasis who have done different things to
> overcome it.  Not all claim
> they avoid gluten.
>
> Marla
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 03/17/05 03:02:00
> To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] Psoriasis and
> autoimmunity
>
> Hi Marla,
> Please excuse me butting in Carissa
>
> The cause of Psoriasis has been found. It was the
> Swiss whom first
> publicised the fact that Acrylamide will trigger
> Calcium Protea and the
> citric is involved.
>
> Calcium Protea is another name for Psoriasis.
>
> If l took samples of your normal skin it will show
> the total calcium
> concentration is remarkably constant, ranging
> between 2.5 and 2.75mM with 2
> 5mM the average value. (10mg per 100ml)
>
> But if l took samples of the affected areas
> (Psoriasis) it will show the
> total calcium concentration is many times that of
> the average value hence
> the name Calcium Protea.
>
> The real question that should be asked why has your
> immune system is failing
> to cope. I for one don't think l will ever meet a
> psoriasis sufferer who won
> t prove to be a celiac (but there can be other
> reasons why your immune
> system is malfunctioning).
>
> Stirling Strauss
>
> Psoriasis Is Avoidable
>
>
> marla <talithakumi@...> wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> As I've been doing a little research, I occasionally
> come across the thought
> that psoriasis is an autoimmune problem.
> Specifically, the T-cells in the
> skin are causing trouble.  I get regular blood
> counts and my lymphocyctes
> are within normal range.  It would seem reasonable
> to me that if the
> lymphocyctes were out of control then perhaps the
> lymphocycte count may not
> reflect normal on a complete blood count (although I
> realize that may not
> necessarily be true, but it's a though process I'm
> going through here).  So,
> my question is do any of you psoriasis sufferers
> ever get complete blood
> counts, and are your white counts within normal
> parameters?  Specifically
> the lymphocyctes.
>
> I'm going to see if I can hunt down some books to
> see why they think the
> T-lymphs are causing psoriasis.  It seems that there
> could be several
> reasons for psoriasis, so may have to attack it at
> different levels.  I've
> read hormones can also cause skin problems, but my
> thyroid tests came back
> normal.
>
> Carisa, what are your thoughts in regard to
> psoriasis being autoimmune
> related?
>
> Thanks for any comments or insights.
>
> Marla
>
>
>
>
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> removed]
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#4734 From: "pjb12345uk" <pho@...>
Date: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: eczema
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--- have a looka this
In eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com, "sriramorchid"
<sriramorchid@y...> wroI am sending you this information so that you
may evaluate it, properly and share this information  with your
people

Following the principles outlined in the Orion project will lead you
to real wealth=health.
For research purposes only –subject

The Edgar Cayce approach to treating psoriasis
Cayce takes an entirely different approach to this malady siting the
causes in case after case of an internal problem. Thinning of the
walls of the intestinal tract namely at the jejunum and the
duodenum, the thinning allows toxic products from the intestine to
actually leak into the circulatory system and then it finds way into
the lymph flow of the skin.

When the blood and lymph systems are unable to cope with these
poisons i.e. they are not being eliminated as quickly as they are
forming then the inflamed skin condition known as psoriasis is
produced. This condition Cayce said was not always from the same
cause.But is always caused by a condition of lack of lymph
circulation through the alimentary canal and by absorption of such
activities through the body.

Treatment
This should focus on ridding the body of these circulating poisons
and bring about a gradual healing of the intestinal tract lesions
while improving coordination between the organ systems. This would
clear the skin permanently by getting rid of the cause. This is
really getting at the cause of the problem.

IN NEARLY EVERY CASE DIETARY IMPROVEMENTS WERE MANDATORY.

Since toxic elements tended to be acidic in nature, the general diet
was to promote alkalinity and thus bring about a better
acid/alkaline balance to the system. Emphasis was on fresh fruit and
vegetables to promote better elimination's of the intestinal tract.

  One meal a day should consist of raw vegetables wholly, oil maybe
used as a salad dressing. Little meat except fish fowl and lamb was
mentioned.
Eliminate fats sweets and pastries from the diet. Wines were OK but
not stronger drinks, not rum or the like.
Good bowel movements were second to the diet; again helping the body
rid itself of these toxic forces. Which included Enemas,colonics,
and laxatives .

Physiotherapy, hydrotherapy, the violet ray and sunlight are used to
stimulate better circulation Osteopathy was also used to relive
pressure upon he autonomic ganglia and related systems and thus
improve circulation.

Herbal remedies to promote healing of these lesions were nearly
always prescibed. Yellow safron, chamomile and mullein teas. Ground
elm bark mixed with water or the chewing of slippery elm bark was
advised to stimulate the digestive secretions.

Very little attention is given to the treating of the skin lesions
at all, since these only reflect what is wrong with the general
system.
Stimulating the circulation was also advised, hydrotherapy,
physiotherapy including massage with a combination of olive oil and
peanut oil, the violet ray was also advised. Also Sunlight to build
up a good perspiration would be good for the body.

Palliatives such as resinol and cuticura ointment were mentioned –
apply one following the other and apply these over the areas over
the abrasions.
One final comment made by Cayce when asked if there was an absolute
cure was. Most of the answers lie in the diet these is a cure it
requires patience, persistence and right thinking.

Suggested diet
At least three mornings each week have rolled crushed or cracked
wheat –not cooked to long which destroys the vitamin content, this
will add the iron, silicon, vitamins etc- to build the blood supply.
At other times have citrus fruits – juices, the yolk of eggs but not
the white portion of them.

  Brown bread with butter. Ovaltine coffee [without milk of cream] or
milk alone. Occasionally stewed fruits like prunes, raisons, figs,
apricots. But do not eat citrus fruits with cereals or gruel's or
any of the breakfast foods.
During the morning have a malted milk preferably with the raw egg in
same or a taste of the spirits frumenti.
Noon raw fresh vegetables- none cooked at this meal, like tomatoes,
lettuce, celery, spinach, carrots beet tops, mustard, onions or the
like [not cucumbers]. No quantities of broths or soups at this time.

Evenings- broths, soups may be taken in small measure .Let the meal
consist of vegetables that are well cooked and a little of the light
meats if you must. No fried foods at all were advised.
There is a supplementary commentary in the files by john Pagano D.C,
a cooperating physician about the use of Lecithin.

He highly advises all psoriasis sufferers should include this.
Lecithin is a fat emulsifier; it seemingly keeps fat from
accumulating in the arteries by keeping it in suspension. Which
should be great news for those who have a tendency for clogging
arteries.

  He quotes in Adele Davis book when 254 patients who had psoriasis
were given 4-8 tablespoons of lecithin daily no new eruptions
occurred after the first week and even the most severe cases
recovered within 5 months. John advises the granular form of the
product as this should be most effective 3-4 tablespoons of the
stuff each day until the condition has cleared then 1-2 daily
thereafter as a preventative.
Take this any way you can, just get it down, because of the
phosphoric acid content it should be very good for brain and nerve
tissue and for all patients with any type of degenerative diseases
such scleroderma, rheumatoid arthritis, MS Muscular dystrophy or
even Myasthenia gravis. There were cases where he had found this
beneficial.

There are numerous books written by DR pagano who it appears is one
of  the leading lights on this topic
See http://www.psoriasis-healing.com/

I would also add to your treatment to be even more effective


6.Ensure you do at least I hr per day some kind of voluntary work
when you are able. Now this touches on a concept where by
contributing something to other peoples welfare it is hoped that the
universe will respond by offsetting some of the not so good things
we have done. I have a whole paper devoted to this subject called
karma. I will send a copy of this to you – just e-mail me.
I believe that this could be a real key needing total importance in
treating many ailments, Edgar cayce devoted many hours to this very
topic, and there are many references to it in the bible. The wise
among you will consider this very carefully


12 Spiritual healing, Reiki,  find a good healer - but someone you
feel an attunement with at a soul level otherwise you can have
negative results making your situation worse. We are know witnessing
one of the great turnings in our century where old healing practices
are re-emerging such as Reiki healing, Colour healing, Seichim,
Spiritual healing, Osteopathy, Massage and many others.

  Some of these are thousands of years old, Spiritual healing is one
of those. It is exactly the same kind of energy used by Jesus in so
many of his healings.

Put simply Spiritual Healing, Reiki  is the transference of certain
energies through a channel which could be a person or an animal or
even the planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well
outside the limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people
can feel this energy .

The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and beautiful
which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as the spirit
or soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It can bring a
steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to none .Its
limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite.

A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy
reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act
as the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of
which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit
more energy than smaller wires.

Bearing this point in mind the reader can soon appreciate that going
to one healer can be vastly different than going to another as it is
with so many things whether it be dentists, doctors, policeman or
what have you.

Spiritual Healing is natural healing energy, which is present in
this universe. Spiritual healers work in many different ways to some
it is the laying on of hands onto a person or animal, to others it
can be sent through the power of thought. To be even in the presence
of some healers can have a profound and beneficial effect on people
and one wishes that there were more people giving off just as
beautiful vibrations as these people were this world would truly
transform it.
te:
> I am suffering from eczema since a year. It is on my ankle, i feel
> very itchy, the skin on that surface has become very very rough
and
> thick. I saw some ad in sandiago, where they have suggested
Natural
> oil which they claim 100% cure. I am appliying there is no
improvement
> anyway. Is there any medicine  where i can find some solution
>
> Thanks
>
> Sairam

#4733 From: "pjb12345uk" <pho@...>
Date: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:09 pm
Subject: Re: Ok, So, I am excited!
pjb12345uk
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--- hi sassy
been saying cleanses for years usually on deaf ears

detoxs coloics etc etc


have a look at this
II am sending you this information so that you may evaluate it,
properly and share this information  with your people

Following the principles outlined in the Orion project will lead you
to real wealth=health.
For research purposes only –subject

The Edgar Cayce approach to treating psoriasis
Cayce takes an entirely different approach to this malady siting the
causes in case after case of an internal problem. Thinning of the
walls of the intestinal tract namely at the jejunum and the
duodenum, the thinning allows toxic products from the intestine to
actually leak into the circulatory system and then it finds way into
the lymph flow of the skin.

When the blood and lymph systems are unable to cope with these
poisons i.e. they are not being eliminated as quickly as they are
forming then the inflamed skin condition known as psoriasis is
produced. This condition Cayce said was not always from the same
cause.But is always caused by a condition of lack of lymph
circulation through the alimentary canal and by absorption of such
activities through the body.

Treatment
This should focus on ridding the body of these circulating poisons
and bring about a gradual healing of the intestinal tract lesions
while improving coordination between the organ systems. This would
clear the skin permanently by getting rid of the cause. This is
really getting at the cause of the problem.

IN NEARLY EVERY CASE DIETARY IMPROVEMENTS WERE MANDATORY.

Since toxic elements tended to be acidic in nature, the general diet
was to promote alkalinity and thus bring about a better
acid/alkaline balance to the system. Emphasis was on fresh fruit and
vegetables to promote better elimination's of the intestinal tract.

  One meal a day should consist of raw vegetables wholly, oil maybe
used as a salad dressing. Little meat except fish fowl and lamb was
mentioned.
Eliminate fats sweets and pastries from the diet. Wines were OK but
not stronger drinks, not rum or the like.
Good bowel movements were second to the diet; again helping the body
rid itself of these toxic forces. Which included Enemas,colonics,
and laxatives .

Physiotherapy, hydrotherapy, the violet ray and sunlight are used to
stimulate better circulation Osteopathy was also used to relive
pressure upon he autonomic ganglia and related systems and thus
improve circulation.

Herbal remedies to promote healing of these lesions were nearly
always prescibed. Yellow safron, chamomile and mullein teas. Ground
elm bark mixed with water or the chewing of slippery elm bark was
advised to stimulate the digestive secretions.

Very little attention is given to the treating of the skin lesions
at all, since these only reflect what is wrong with the general
system.
Stimulating the circulation was also advised, hydrotherapy,
physiotherapy including massage with a combination of olive oil and
peanut oil, the violet ray was also advised. Also Sunlight to build
up a good perspiration would be good for the body.

Palliatives such as resinol and cuticura ointment were mentioned –
apply one following the other and apply these over the areas over
the abrasions.
One final comment made by Cayce when asked if there was an absolute
cure was. Most of the answers lie in the diet these is a cure it
requires patience, persistence and right thinking.

Suggested diet
At least three mornings each week have rolled crushed or cracked
wheat –not cooked to long which destroys the vitamin content, this
will add the iron, silicon, vitamins etc- to build the blood supply.
At other times have citrus fruits – juices, the yolk of eggs but not
the white portion of them.

  Brown bread with butter. Ovaltine coffee [without milk of cream] or
milk alone. Occasionally stewed fruits like prunes, raisons, figs,
apricots. But do not eat citrus fruits with cereals or gruel's or
any of the breakfast foods.
During the morning have a malted milk preferably with the raw egg in
same or a taste of the spirits frumenti.
Noon raw fresh vegetables- none cooked at this meal, like tomatoes,
lettuce, celery, spinach, carrots beet tops, mustard, onions or the
like [not cucumbers]. No quantities of broths or soups at this time.

Evenings- broths, soups may be taken in small measure .Let the meal
consist of vegetables that are well cooked and a little of the light
meats if you must. No fried foods at all were advised.
There is a supplementary commentary in the files by john Pagano D.C,
a cooperating physician about the use of Lecithin.

He highly advises all psoriasis sufferers should include this.
Lecithin is a fat emulsifier; it seemingly keeps fat from
accumulating in the arteries by keeping it in suspension. Which
should be great news for those who have a tendency for clogging
arteries.

  He quotes in Adele Davis book when 254 patients who had psoriasis
were given 4-8 tablespoons of lecithin daily no new eruptions
occurred after the first week and even the most severe cases
recovered within 5 months. John advises the granular form of the
product as this should be most effective 3-4 tablespoons of the
stuff each day until the condition has cleared then 1-2 daily
thereafter as a preventative.
Take this any way you can, just get it down, because of the
phosphoric acid content it should be very good for brain and nerve
tissue and for all patients with any type of degenerative diseases
such scleroderma, rheumatoid arthritis, MS Muscular dystrophy or
even Myasthenia gravis. There were cases where he had found this
beneficial.

There are numerous books written by DR pagano who it appears is one
of  the leading lights on this topic
See http://www.psoriasis-healing.com/

I would also add to your treatment to be even more effective


6.Ensure you do at least I hr per day some kind of voluntary work
when you are able. Now this touches on a concept where by
contributing something to other peoples welfare it is hoped that the
universe will respond by offsetting some of the not so good things
we have done. I have a whole paper devoted to this subject called
karma. I will send a copy of this to you – just e-mail me.
I believe that this could be a real key needing total importance in
treating many ailments, Edgar cayce devoted many hours to this very
topic, and there are many references to it in the bible. The wise
among you will consider this very carefully


12 Spiritual healing, Reiki,  find a good healer - but someone you
feel an attunement with at a soul level otherwise you can have
negative results making your situation worse. We are know witnessing
one of the great turnings in our century where old healing practices
are re-emerging such as Reiki healing, Colour healing, Seichim,
Spiritual healing, Osteopathy, Massage and many others.

  Some of these are thousands of years old, Spiritual healing is one
of those. It is exactly the same kind of energy used by Jesus in so
many of his healings.

Put simply Spiritual Healing, Reiki  is the transference of certain
energies through a channel which could be a person or an animal or
even the planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well
outside the limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people
can feel this energy .

The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and beautiful
which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as the spirit
or soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It can bring a
steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to none .Its
limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite.

A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy
reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act
as the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of
which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit
more energy than smaller wires.

Bearing this point in mind the reader can soon appreciate that going
to one healer can be vastly different than going to another as it is
with so many things whether it be dentists, doctors, policeman or
what have you.

Spiritual Healing is natural healing energy, which is present in
this universe. Spiritual healers work in many different ways to some
it is the laying on of hands onto a person or animal, to others it
can be sent through the power of thought. To be even in the presence
of some healers can have a profound and beneficial effect on people
and one wishes that there were more people giving off just as
beautiful vibrations as these people were this world would truly
transform it.
n eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com, "wise_sass" <onesassyqueen@l...>
wrote:
> After doing some reading, research and discussing it with others,
I
> went on a Liver Cleanse Sat. morning.
>
> Well, Friday night, I was hopeful bc I wasn't getting my itching
fit
> like I usually do around 10 pm. But then early 2 am it started
back up.
>
> So, Sat, Sun, and Mon, I was WORSE! I had to double my meds. I am
> thinking, ok...I must be really toxic for this reaction!
>
> Sunday I also started a parasite cleanse (which articles say we
all
> have parasites which produce toxins) (plus I am desprite to try
> anything!)  I also started taking a herbal tea mixture - I went
down
> to the health food store and got some bulk herbs and mixed them
> together. I also got a homeopathic remedy for rashes caused by
food. I
> also am limiting my processed foods and wheat. Also started taking
Boo-
> koo Mega vitamins/amino acids/omega/minerals/acidophilis.
>
> So last night - Tuesday I was ok. No REALLY BAD INSANE itching. No
> itching at 2 am. And today, my skin actually LOOKS and feels like
its
> healing. And I could go back to my normal meds.
>
> Is this really a step towards clear skin? Will my blotchy red
rashy
> skin be a thing in the past? Or is this just a good day which will
be
> a bad day tomorrow.
>
> Stay tuned to this same Bat channel to find out!
>
> I am HOPEFUL!!!!
>
> Thanks
>
> Sassy

#4732 From: Carisa Holmes <textbookgemini73@...>
Date: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:46 am
Subject: RE: extremely dry skin not eczema
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One could get the same effect or better by using just pure shea and cocoa
butter. You can get both from the African Shea Butter Company online. You can
even buy in bulk, and, no mineral oil! You could gently melt the two butters
along with some olive and coconut oil and then allow the mix to solidify again.
Add a few drops of lavender essential oil and you have a super balm.
Carisa

Jo Grant <conrad.wagner@...> wrote:
I recently bought Palmer's Shea Butter Formula with Vitamin E. It is without
doubt the best skin treatment (for dry skin on body) that I've ever used. It
is fragranced as well (they sell unfragranced products so probably could get
that).
I don't put it on my face because it's got mineral oil in it and I'd get
very itchy and uncomfortable - but it is doing wonders on my body, my hands
are looking so much younger, my feet as well (that papery/crepey look is
gone). And my chest skin that has heaps of sun damage, feels like it did
many years ago - too long to remember. Not a natural product but very good.

Jo.

-----Original Message-----
From: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Pamela Ulloa
Sent: Monday, 13 June 2005 3:02 PM
To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] extremely dry skin not eczema


Carisa,

My name is Pamela, I have a baby 17 month, with a bad eczema, all over the
bady, please tell me where can I get the shea butter?.  and if is ok to give
her flax oil?

pamela

Carisa Holmes <textbookgemini73@...> wrote:
Hi Elizabeth! I am a licensed esthetician and spa owner in Ohio. I am also a
vibrational therapist and I am getting my registered aromatherapist
training. I offer free advice for anyone who wants it! I have a wellness
program called The Flower of Wellness that pretty much covers everything, so
if you'd like to see it, I will send it to you.
At any rate, if you are extremely dry, it is likely that topical products
will not help very much. The lack of lipids needs to be addresses from
within. I highly recommend you get some good fats in your diet. The best
source of Omegas is Carlson cod liver oil or fish oil. No other brand. It
tastes so good, I use it as a salad oil! Very high quality. Hemp oil, flax
oil, evening primrose, borage seed oil and spirulina are excellent
vegetarian sources of EFAs. Also, increase your water intake (clean, pure
water that is) to half your body weight in ounces each day. So, if you weigh
140 lbs, you should have 70 ounces of water a day, or 7 big glasses. Try
that, and see if your skin responds.
Topically, I have found nothing better than coconut oil. It slowly
exfoliates dead skin cells, leaving the skin with a beautiful glow. It even
penetrates down into the connective tissue. It has a wonderful healing
effect and helps to restore the acid mantle and promote healing of skin
lesions. It even has antibacterial and anti fungal properties when broken
down by the beneficial bacteria on the skin. Since you are extra dry, try
adding cocoa butter or shea butter (from the African Shea Butter company, no
other brand) on top of the coconut oil for an extra moisturizing boost.
Coconut penetrates so quickly and completely that it doesn't leave much of a
water barrier on the surface of the skin. The butters help with that. Also,
be careful what you wash with. That includes shower gels and laundry
products. Switch to Seventh Generation laundry products and use only
Miessence, Terressential or Dr Bronners to wash your skin with. You will be
amazed at the difference. But remember: all the
topical miracle creams in the world will not fix your skin unless you
address the internal reason for the dry skin, which is typically poor
nutrition in the fat department.
Hope this helps!
Carisa


caseymadison2003 <caseymadison2003@...> wrote:
Hello:

I have extremely dry skin and was curious if anyone has had good
experience with topical products ....

I have never been diagnosed as having eczema....i am hypo thyroid and
am on medicine for it.....i have heard that causes dry skin......

any feedback is appreciated....

elizabeth








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#4731 From: "Jo Grant" <conrad.wagner@...>
Date: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:20 am
Subject: RE: extremely dry skin not eczema
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I recently bought Palmer's Shea Butter Formula with Vitamin E. It is without
doubt the best skin treatment (for dry skin on body) that I've ever used. It
is fragranced as well (they sell unfragranced products so probably could get
that).
I don't put it on my face because it's got mineral oil in it and I'd get
very itchy and uncomfortable - but it is doing wonders on my body, my hands
are looking so much younger, my feet as well (that papery/crepey look is
gone). And my chest skin that has heaps of sun damage, feels like it did
many years ago - too long to remember. Not a natural product but very good.

Jo.

-----Original Message-----
From: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Pamela Ulloa
Sent: Monday, 13 June 2005 3:02 PM
To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] extremely dry skin not eczema


Carisa,

My name is Pamela, I have a baby 17 month, with a bad eczema, all over the
bady, please tell me where can I get the shea butter?.  and if is ok to give
her flax oil?

pamela

Carisa Holmes <textbookgemini73@...> wrote:
Hi Elizabeth! I am a licensed esthetician and spa owner in Ohio. I am also a
vibrational therapist and I am getting my registered aromatherapist
training. I offer free advice for anyone who wants it! I have a wellness
program called The Flower of Wellness that pretty much covers everything, so
if you'd like to see it, I will send it to you.
At any rate, if you are extremely dry, it is likely that topical products
will not help very much. The lack of lipids needs to be addresses from
within. I highly recommend you get some good fats in your diet. The best
source of Omegas is Carlson cod liver oil or fish oil. No other brand. It
tastes so good, I use it as a salad oil! Very high quality. Hemp oil, flax
oil, evening primrose, borage seed oil and spirulina are excellent
vegetarian sources of EFAs. Also, increase your water intake (clean, pure
water that is) to half your body weight in ounces each day. So, if you weigh
140 lbs, you should have 70 ounces of water a day, or 7 big glasses. Try
that, and see if your skin responds.
Topically, I have found nothing better than coconut oil. It slowly
exfoliates dead skin cells, leaving the skin with a beautiful glow. It even
penetrates down into the connective tissue. It has a wonderful healing
effect and helps to restore the acid mantle and promote healing of skin
lesions. It even has antibacterial and anti fungal properties when broken
down by the beneficial bacteria on the skin. Since you are extra dry, try
adding cocoa butter or shea butter (from the African Shea Butter company, no
other brand) on top of the coconut oil for an extra moisturizing boost.
Coconut penetrates so quickly and completely that it doesn't leave much of a
water barrier on the surface of the skin. The butters help with that. Also,
be careful what you wash with. That includes shower gels and laundry
products. Switch to Seventh Generation laundry products and use only
Miessence, Terressential or Dr Bronners to wash your skin with. You will be
amazed at the difference. But remember: all the
topical miracle creams in the world will not fix your skin unless you
address the internal reason for the dry skin, which is typically poor
nutrition in the fat department.
Hope this helps!
Carisa


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Hello:

I have extremely dry skin and was curious if anyone has had good
experience with topical products ....

I have never been diagnosed as having eczema....i am hypo thyroid and
am on medicine for it.....i have heard that causes dry skin......

any feedback is appreciated....

elizabeth








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#4730 From: Pamela Ulloa <pame555@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Mum's Rant. (Baby with eczema.)
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Lori,

I just read my e-mails today, but if you will order again, please order some for
me, to try it, please let me know the prices.

pamela ulloa
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canton ga 30115
404-5873082

Lori Poulin <stayinhome@...> wrote:
Pamela,
I am ordering from them today I could order some for you and mail it to you.
I will pay for it. I just want your baby to feel  better.

E-mail me off the group with your address and I can send it to you.

Lori Poulin
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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] Re: Mum's Rant. (Baby with eczema.)


> hello Lorie,
>
> My name is pamela, I have a 17 month old baby with a bad eczema all over
her bady, can you tell me more about the melaleuca.....? I try to check the
web side but I dont see any maelaleuca oil. It help with the eczema.?
>
> pamela
>
> Lori Poulin <stayinhome@...> wrote:
> Hi Liz and Kate,
> My baby had eczema really bad and my doctor prescribed steroids. Not
wanting to take this route I found Melaleuca and the Renew lotion has cured
him from this skin condition. They also have a melagel that clears
psoriasis. It is an International Wellness Company and their prices are
compared with Walmart. Their website is www.melaleuca.com Let me know if you
want more info.
>
> Have a wonderful day!
> Lori
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>   From: kateanct
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>   Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 2:47 PM
>   Subject: [eczemapsoriasis] Re: Mum's Rant. (Baby with eczema.)
>
>
>   Hi Liz,
>
>   I've just found this group and I'm in exactly the same situation as
>   you.  My 7 month old boy has eczema quite badly and I'm coming under
>   increasing pressure to give him steroid creams.  So far I've resisted
>   but it is so difficult when you know that they are judging you as a
>   mother - and they clearly don't think that you're doing the right
>   thing. (although most people outside the healthcare profession I talk
>   to think that I am doing the right thing!)
>
>   We've had limited success with homeopathy so far, I'm now looking to
>   increase the dose in the hope that it will continue to help.  We've
>   tried all sorts of different oils and lotions - there is a Tisserand
>   baby massage oil that you can get in Waitrose (Baby Bliss) which
>   contains borage oil and seems to help.  I also use a blend of
>   calendula and jojoba oils with lavender, roman chamomile, rose
>   geranium etc. that a friend makes up for me.  We also manage the
>   weepy patches on his face with Sudacrem (works wonders!) and I use
>   the Fucidin cream when there is infection (not the one with steroids
>   in it).
>
>   This week we've discovered a seaweed powder that you add to the bath -
>   and I do feel that this is having an effect (fingers crossed).  He's
>   been having baths morning and night and I also make him up a face
>   pack.  I can feel the difference on my own skin where my hands have
>   been in the water so I do feel that it is having an effect.  Just a
>   shame that I really can't stand the smell of seaweed - never have
>   been able to! - it sometimes makes me retch!
>
>   We're also using acupuncture - I have the most wonderful practitioner
>   who I met when I was pregnant and I would trust her with anything.  I
>   can't say yet whether or not it is effective but DS loves the flower
>   essences she also prescribes (they are given in cognac!).
>
>   I have a question for this list - when my GP is trying to undermine
>   me does anyone have the details of any research that shows how safe
>   or not the steroid creams are?  I'd like to be able to show her that
>   my mistrust of steroids is based on more than just my instinct.
>
>   Thanks
>
>   Kate.
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#4729 From: Carisa Holmes <textbookgemini73@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: extremely dry skin not eczema
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I recommend Carlson cod liver oil (not other brand) for eczema sufferers. Most
people with eczema can't convert the inactive form of EFAs in flax to a usable
form. he EFA in cod liver oil are already active. Use that and get the shea
butter online from the African Shea Butter COmpany. Good luck!

Pamela Ulloa <pame555@...> wrote:Carisa,

My name is Pamela, I have a baby 17 month, with a bad eczema, all over the bady,
please tell me where can I get the shea butter?.  and if is ok to give her flax
oil?

pamela

Carisa Holmes <textbookgemini73@...> wrote:
Hi Elizabeth! I am a licensed esthetician and spa owner in Ohio. I am also a
vibrational therapist and I am getting my registered aromatherapist training. I
offer free advice for anyone who wants it! I have a wellness program called The
Flower of Wellness that pretty much covers everything, so if you'd like to see
it, I will send it to you.
At any rate, if you are extremely dry, it is likely that topical products will
not help very much. The lack of lipids needs to be addresses from within. I
highly recommend you get some good fats in your diet. The best source of Omegas
is Carlson cod liver oil or fish oil. No other brand. It tastes so good, I use
it as a salad oil! Very high quality. Hemp oil, flax oil, evening primrose,
borage seed oil and spirulina are excellent vegetarian sources of EFAs. Also,
increase your water intake (clean, pure water that is) to half your body weight
in ounces each day. So, if you weigh 140 lbs, you should have 70 ounces of water
a day, or 7 big glasses. Try that, and see if your skin responds.
Topically, I have found nothing better than coconut oil. It slowly exfoliates
dead skin cells, leaving the skin with a beautiful glow. It even penetrates down
into the connective tissue. It has a wonderful healing effect and helps to
restore the acid mantle and promote healing of skin lesions. It even has
antibacterial and anti fungal properties when broken down by the beneficial
bacteria on the skin. Since you are extra dry, try adding cocoa butter or shea
butter (from the African Shea Butter company, no other brand) on top of the
coconut oil for an extra moisturizing boost. Coconut penetrates so quickly and
completely that it doesn't leave much of a water barrier on the surface of the
skin. The butters help with that. Also, be careful what you wash with. That
includes shower gels and laundry products. Switch to Seventh Generation laundry
products and use only Miessence, Terressential or Dr Bronners to wash your skin
with. You will be amazed at the difference. But remember: all the
topical miracle creams in the world will not fix your skin unless you address
the internal reason for the dry skin, which is typically poor nutrition in the
fat department.
Hope this helps!
Carisa


caseymadison2003 <caseymadison2003@...> wrote:
Hello:

I have extremely dry skin and was curious if anyone has had good
experience with topical products ....

I have never been diagnosed as having eczema....i am hypo thyroid and
am on medicine for it.....i have heard that causes dry skin......

any feedback is appreciated....

elizabeth








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#4728 From: Carisa Holmes <textbookgemini73@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:07 pm
Subject: Re: what are typical food *triggers*?
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Carisa

Jessica Bradley <onemansdream16@...> wrote:
Hi my name is Jessica and I have eczema and I would also like to hear about your
Flower wellness program


Natasha Hall <natasha@...> wrote:
Could u pls tell me more about this Flower of Wellness program?

Kind regards

Natasha
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Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:58 PM
Subject: RE: [eczemapsoriasis] what are typical food *triggers*?


> Carisa, hi.
>
> I have been receiving these emails for quite some time, and I want you to
> know that I always find your advice to be very informative.  I was
> diagnosed
> with psoriasis more than 35 years ago as a child.  The symptoms came and
> went several times over the years, but with very little severity until
> about
> 4 years ago.  Since that time, I have turned to various "natural"
> solutions
> including changing my diet, colon hydrotherapy, liver cleanses,
> supplements.....etc......with varying degrees of success, but
> unfortunately,
> nothing lasting.  I have studied the subject and read everything I can get
> my hands on.  Like you I believe that the problem is systemic.  I would be
> very interested in trying your Flower of Wellness program.  My email is
> dawna.maloy@...
>
> Thanks,
> Dawna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Carisa Holmes
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 4:35 PM
> To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] what are typical food *triggers*?
>
>
> Lotions and creams only do so much. Eczema and psoriasis are SYSTEMIC
> problems that can only be truly cleared by taking a whole body, whole
> person
> approach. A lotion or other topical treatment may in fact help clear the
> skin and suppress the symptoms of the disease, but it will then manifest
> somewhere else in the body! Get to the root of the problem by addressing
> whole person wellness. Let me know if you would like me to send you my
> Flower of Wellness program to help you do this. No, I'm not trying to sell
> you anything.
> Carisa
>
> Donnea Simon <iswitchedstores@...> wrote:
> Ingrid -
>
> Please don't put your child on steroids.  There is an alternative that is
> safer, less expensive, and natural.  It's the Renew Skin Therapy lotion.
> The product is 100% money-back 90-day usage guaranteed.
>
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#4727 From: Carisa Holmes <textbookgemini73@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: Creme to try
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Yes, that's what makes the balm work. Nutiva and Tropical Traditions are the
best brand of coconut oil. It has so many uses, inside and out. Can't say enough
about it.

sasha <sasha@...> wrote:Alison,
Have you tried Pure Virgin Coconut Oil (PVCO)?  Spectrum has one at Whole
Foods if you are near them.  There are many on the market and on the
internet.

Sasha

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From: Alison
Date: 06/11/05 11:08:51
To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [eczemapsoriasis] Creme to try

I am always trying new creams and balms for my eczema and I actually found
one that works well:

Burt Bee's Coconut Foot Cream

It's actually more of a light Balm.

For whatever reason it is healing the eczema on my scalp!

Hooray!

I don't know how or why but it seems to keep a protective moisture barrier
on top of the skin.

I'm not a huge fan of Burt Bee's products but this one is awesome!

Also: It feels a bit greasy but just let it soak in for 5 minutes.



Alison





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#4726 From: Carisa Holmes <textbookgemini73@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: Hi there, new here
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Getting the metal (amalgam) fillings removed from your teeth and replaced with
composite resin. Helps get rid of mercury in the system.

SSMina@... wrote:

Sara-

what is amalgram removals?  Just wondering...thanks.


In a message dated 5/18/2005 11:23:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
nurturinghome@... writes:

my name  is sara kohn. I am 29 years old and a mom to 2 kids boy age 3
and girl age  1. I work at home. my interests include natural health,
natural birth,  karate, exercise and making new friends! I look forward
learning and  sharing new info here!

I used to have eczema on all over my body. when  I did amalgam removals
the eczema was eliminated. but my adult acne is  still there.. any
suggestions?

Nice to meet ya'll.
have great  day!
~Sara









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#4725 From: Pamela Ulloa <pame555@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:01 am
Subject: Re: extremely dry skin not eczema
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Carisa,

My name is Pamela, I have a baby 17 month, with a bad eczema, all over the bady,
please tell me where can I get the shea butter?.  and if is ok to give her flax
oil?

pamela

Carisa Holmes <textbookgemini73@...> wrote:
Hi Elizabeth! I am a licensed esthetician and spa owner in Ohio. I am also a
vibrational therapist and I am getting my registered aromatherapist training. I
offer free advice for anyone who wants it! I have a wellness program called The
Flower of Wellness that pretty much covers everything, so if you'd like to see
it, I will send it to you.
At any rate, if you are extremely dry, it is likely that topical products will
not help very much. The lack of lipids needs to be addresses from within. I
highly recommend you get some good fats in your diet. The best source of Omegas
is Carlson cod liver oil or fish oil. No other brand. It tastes so good, I use
it as a salad oil! Very high quality. Hemp oil, flax oil, evening primrose,
borage seed oil and spirulina are excellent vegetarian sources of EFAs. Also,
increase your water intake (clean, pure water that is) to half your body weight
in ounces each day. So, if you weigh 140 lbs, you should have 70 ounces of water
a day, or 7 big glasses. Try that, and see if your skin responds.
Topically, I have found nothing better than coconut oil. It slowly exfoliates
dead skin cells, leaving the skin with a beautiful glow. It even penetrates down
into the connective tissue. It has a wonderful healing effect and helps to
restore the acid mantle and promote healing of skin lesions. It even has
antibacterial and anti fungal properties when broken down by the beneficial
bacteria on the skin. Since you are extra dry, try adding cocoa butter or shea
butter (from the African Shea Butter company, no other brand) on top of the
coconut oil for an extra moisturizing boost. Coconut penetrates so quickly and
completely that it doesn't leave much of a water barrier on the surface of the
skin. The butters help with that. Also, be careful what you wash with. That
includes shower gels and laundry products. Switch to Seventh Generation laundry
products and use only Miessence, Terressential or Dr Bronners to wash your skin
with. You will be amazed at the difference. But remember: all the
topical miracle creams in the world will not fix your skin unless you address
the internal reason for the dry skin, which is typically poor nutrition in the
fat department.
Hope this helps!
Carisa


caseymadison2003 <caseymadison2003@...> wrote:
Hello:

I have extremely dry skin and was curious if anyone has had good
experience with topical products ....

I have never been diagnosed as having eczema....i am hypo thyroid and
am on medicine for it.....i have heard that causes dry skin......

any feedback is appreciated....

elizabeth








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#4724 From: Jessica Bradley <onemansdream16@...>
Date: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:41 pm
Subject: Re: what are typical food *triggers*?
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Hi my name is Jessica and I have eczema and I would also like to hear about your
Flower wellness program


Natasha Hall <natasha@...> wrote:
Could u pls tell me more about this Flower of Wellness program?

Kind regards

Natasha
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> Carisa, hi.
>
> I have been receiving these emails for quite some time, and I want you to
> know that I always find your advice to be very informative.  I was
> diagnosed
> with psoriasis more than 35 years ago as a child.  The symptoms came and
> went several times over the years, but with very little severity until
> about
> 4 years ago.  Since that time, I have turned to various "natural"
> solutions
> including changing my diet, colon hydrotherapy, liver cleanses,
> supplements.....etc......with varying degrees of success, but
> unfortunately,
> nothing lasting.  I have studied the subject and read everything I can get
> my hands on.  Like you I believe that the problem is systemic.  I would be
> very interested in trying your Flower of Wellness program.  My email is
> dawna.maloy@...
>
> Thanks,
> Dawna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Carisa Holmes
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 4:35 PM
> To: eczemapsoriasis@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [eczemapsoriasis] what are typical food *triggers*?
>
>
> Lotions and creams only do so much. Eczema and psoriasis are SYSTEMIC
> problems that can only be truly cleared by taking a whole body, whole
> person
> approach. A lotion or other topical treatment may in fact help clear the
> skin and suppress the symptoms of the disease, but it will then manifest
> somewhere else in the body! Get to the root of the problem by addressing
> whole person wellness. Let me know if you would like me to send you my
> Flower of Wellness program to help you do this. No, I'm not trying to sell
> you anything.
> Carisa
>
> Donnea Simon <iswitchedstores@...> wrote:
> Ingrid -
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> Please don't put your child on steroids.  There is an alternative that is
> safer, less expensive, and natural.  It's the Renew Skin Therapy lotion.
> The product is 100% money-back 90-day usage guaranteed.
>
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