--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
>... We've
> had positive reports on Stetzer Filters, BioProtect cards,
> Quantum Products, RADAR cards, Springlife Polarizers (and
> a few others, I'm sure).  If you don't respond well to
> any of these, well, at least you tried!  :-)

Thanks, Marc!  I'll try to find out more about those.

Hi Elizabeth,
I really feel for your friend. Has he been tested for porphyria (see
http://www.porphyriafoundation.com/about_por/types/types08.html)
and/or mast cell disorders (see
http://www.tmsforacure.org/patientinfo.shtml)? I know that reactivity
to sunlight can be a symptom of both conditions. It's so hard to feel
so disconnected from everyone and everything. Please let your friend
know we all send our support and love. He is not alone.

Good luck to him,
Julie
www.PlanetThrive.com
healing ourselves and the earth

--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, "zil_mumper" <zil_mumper@...> wrote:
>
> Hi my name is Elizabeth and I have a friend who is very  sensitive
to electricity and light. He's having a really rough time right now
and is looking to find someone in similar straights. Is there anyone
out there that is similar?
>

Is acute sensitivity to light a (recognised?) condition in itself?
I'm sure i've heard of special camps that are run for children with
the condition.

There is a guy in the UK who has acute light sensitivity. I'll email
you the details of the person who is in contact with him.
j

--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > Thank you for your response. I honestly don't know all the
details. I
> > just know my friend John can't be in the day light at all. Nor
can he
> > use a computer or phone, I have to communicate with him through
> > writing. ( He lives in another state.) I'm sorry that is not very
> > helpful. I just know he needs ( and wants) to be connected to
others.
>
> Okay, thanks, I was just curious... I know that about 7 years ago,
> I had trouble being in direct sunlight -- I would get sharp pains
> in my head, but I can't recall what other symptoms I had (nausea?
> fatigue?).  And computers and phones were also definitely a problem,
> as were florescent lights and televisions.
>
> But your friend should know that many people have this problem,
> and that also some of them have been able to overcome it.
> Usually it seems to simply be a health problem which can be resolved
> by nutrition and/or detoxification, but if there is an obvious
> electrical problem in the home, then that will need to be addressed
> as well.
>
> The problem with overcoming these sensitivities is finding something
> that will help -- I know that some things that have helped others
> had no effect on me, and some things that have helped me have had
> no effect on others.  However, there are some areas of commonality,
> it's usually just the specifics that differ.  Also, it may require
> a lot of trial and error, patience, and money... :-(
>
> Marc
>

> Thank you Marc, I really appreciate your response. Can you tell me what

You can read my story at Gilligan Joy's "Overcoming Electrical
Sensitivity" website:

   http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/cases/MarcMartin.html

In fact, you should probably have your friend read that entire
site:

   http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/

Marc

Thank you Marc, I really appreciate your response. Can you tell me what helped
you?
   Thanks,
   Elizabeth

Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
           > Thank you for your response. I honestly don't know all the details.
I
> just know my friend John can't be in the day light at all. Nor can he
> use a computer or phone, I have to communicate with him through
> writing. ( He lives in another state.) I'm sorry that is not very
> helpful. I just know he needs ( and wants) to be connected to others.

Okay, thanks, I was just curious... I know that about 7 years ago,
I had trouble being in direct sunlight -- I would get sharp pains
in my head, but I can't recall what other symptoms I had (nausea?
fatigue?). And computers and phones were also definitely a problem,
as were florescent lights and televisions.

But your friend should know that many people have this problem,
and that also some of them have been able to overcome it.
Usually it seems to simply be a health problem which can be resolved
by nutrition and/or detoxification, but if there is an obvious
electrical problem in the home, then that will need to be addressed
as well.

The problem with overcoming these sensitivities is finding something
that will help -- I know that some things that have helped others
had no effect on me, and some things that have helped me have had
no effect on others. However, there are some areas of commonality,
it's usually just the specifics that differ. Also, it may require
a lot of trial and error, patience, and money... :-(

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> Thank you for your response. I honestly don't know all the details. I
> just know my friend John can't be in the day light at all. Nor can he
> use a computer or phone, I have to communicate with him through
> writing. ( He lives in another state.) I'm sorry that is not very
> helpful. I just know he needs ( and wants) to be connected to others.

Okay, thanks, I was just curious... I know that about 7 years ago,
I had trouble being in direct sunlight -- I would get sharp pains
in my head, but I can't recall what other symptoms I had (nausea?
fatigue?).  And computers and phones were also definitely a problem,
as were florescent lights and televisions.

But your friend should know that many people have this problem,
and that also some of them have been able to overcome it.
Usually it seems to simply be a health problem which can be resolved
by nutrition and/or detoxification, but if there is an obvious
electrical problem in the home, then that will need to be addressed
as well.

The problem with overcoming these sensitivities is finding something
that will help -- I know that some things that have helped others
had no effect on me, and some things that have helped me have had
no effect on others.  However, there are some areas of commonality,
it's usually just the specifics that differ.  Also, it may require
a lot of trial and error, patience, and money... :-(

Marc

Hi Marc,
   Thank you for your response. I honestly don't know all the details. I just
know my friend John can't be in the day light at all. Nor can he use a computer
or phone, I have to communicate with him through writing. ( He lives in another
state.) I'm sorry that is not very helpful. I just know he needs ( and wants) to
be connected to others.

   Thanks,
   Elizabeth



Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
           Hi Elizabeth,

Yes, we've certainly had people subscribed to this list who say that
they are sensitive to electricity and light (and perhaps they are
still here?). I'm curious, what are the details of the "light
sensitivity"?
That is, what kinds of light causes problems, and what are the symptoms
of the sensitivity?

Marc

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:25:18 -0000, "zil_mumper" <zil_mumper@...>
said:
> Hi my name is Elizabeth and I have a friend who is very sensitive to
> electricity and light. He's having a really rough time right now and is
> looking to find someone in similar straights. Is there anyone out there
> that is similar?




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If your problem is low frequency magnetic fields, a Faraday cage
won't help (unless it's 1/2 inch thick aluminum).
If your problem is high frequencies, it could help, or not if they
are strong enough so that even after 30 dB shielding they are still
above threshold.
If you have a cage, and it was less than $1000, it's probably not
even 30dB.  To get the most of it, try not to soil the mesh with
fingerprints even.  Try to let it hang straight.  Probably best not to
ground it unless you use a dedicated ground rod (but without grounding
it cannot block very low frequency E-fields, which might be OK).  Probably
need
to have a conducting floor, which ideally should be in electrical contact
all the way around.  If that's not possible, experiment with up to 4"
of overlap between the floor material and the walls.

Getting a meter, preferably directional, is highly recommended.
But first you need to know what you're trying to shield.  If your
AC magnetic fields are not low, it could be a waste of effort,
unless you know there's strong microwaves around.  Try turning
off all the power for 12+ hours (put ice in the fridge?).

Let us know if you have success!  Shielding is not simple....

Bill

On 10/30/07, luminous_blue <blueradiance6@...> wrote:
>
>   Hi, I'm new to the group--so, wanted to first say hello to everyone
> here. I've been trying to find SOMETHING to help with my ES. I tried
> the Q-Link years ago & noticed NOTHING (and returned it). I just
> recently bought the EarthCalm scalar resonator necklace & the
> EarthCalm scalar home protection system for EMF sensitive people (that
> you plug in in 3 steps). All I noticed so far was that the plug in
> system gave me a horrible headache & made me feel nauseated & spacey
> for a number of days (which went away now). The pendant gave me chest
> pain for a couple of days, but that has gone away now. Yet, I don't
> notice any improvement when I'm exposed to the usual problem sources
> (appliances, computers, lights, etc.). I also tried the Faraday
> Canopy Kit (from www.blockemf.com). It's terribly expensive (well,
> all these things are) & hard to put together--and so far, I haven't
> noticed any difference. I wondered about other people's experiences
> with these items, and if there is anything that REALLY works & has
> real science behind it?
>
>
>


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Welcome to the group!

Lots of people here have had no benefit from the Q-Link.  Fewer
people here have tried the Earthcalm products, but I do recall
at least one person who got benefits from it.  You might
try a few other items before giving up on devices.  We've
had positive reports on Stetzer Filters, BioProtect cards,
Quantum Products, RADAR cards, Springlife Polarizers (and
a few others, I'm sure).  If you don't respond well to
any of these, well, at least you tried!  :-)

Marc

luminous_blue wrote:
> Hi, I'm new to the group--so, wanted to first say hello to everyone
> here.  I've been trying to find SOMETHING to help with my ES.  I tried
> the Q-Link years ago & noticed NOTHING (and returned it). I just
> recently bought the EarthCalm scalar resonator necklace & the
> EarthCalm scalar home protection system for EMF sensitive people (that
> you plug in in 3 steps).  All I noticed so far was that the plug in
> system gave me a horrible headache & made me feel nauseated & spacey
> for a number of days (which went away now).  The pendant gave me chest
> pain for a couple of days, but that has gone away now.  Yet, I don't
> notice any improvement when I'm exposed to the usual problem sources
> (appliances, computers, lights, etc.).  I also tried the Faraday
> Canopy Kit (from www.blockemf.com).  It's terribly expensive (well,
> all these things are) & hard to put together--and so far, I haven't
> noticed any difference.  I wondered about other people's experiences
> with these items, and if there is anything that REALLY works & has
> real science behind it?
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hi, I'm new to the group--so, wanted to first say hello to everyone
here.  I've been trying to find SOMETHING to help with my ES.  I tried
the Q-Link years ago & noticed NOTHING (and returned it). I just
recently bought the EarthCalm scalar resonator necklace & the
EarthCalm scalar home protection system for EMF sensitive people (that
you plug in in 3 steps).  All I noticed so far was that the plug in
system gave me a horrible headache & made me feel nauseated & spacey
for a number of days (which went away now).  The pendant gave me chest
pain for a couple of days, but that has gone away now.  Yet, I don't
notice any improvement when I'm exposed to the usual problem sources
(appliances, computers, lights, etc.).  I also tried the Faraday
Canopy Kit (from www.blockemf.com).  It's terribly expensive (well,
all these things are) & hard to put together--and so far, I haven't
noticed any difference.  I wondered about other people's experiences
with these items, and if there is anything that REALLY works & has
real science behind it?

Hi Elizabeth,

Yes, we've certainly had people subscribed to this list who say that
they are sensitive to electricity and light (and perhaps they are
still here?).  I'm curious, what are the details of the "light
sensitivity"?
That is, what kinds of light causes problems, and what are the symptoms
of the sensitivity?

Marc

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:25:18 -0000, "zil_mumper" <zil_mumper@...>
said:
> Hi my name is Elizabeth and I have a friend who is very  sensitive to
> electricity and light. He's having a really rough time right now and is
> looking to find someone in similar straights. Is there anyone out there
> that is similar?

Hi my name is Elizabeth and I have a friend who is very  sensitive to
electricity and light. He's having a really rough time right now and is
looking to find someone in similar straights. Is there anyone out there
that is similar?

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:18:25 -0400, "Andrew McAfee"
<amcafeerr@...> said:
> colloidal silver

I've never had much luck with colloidal silver.  It just doesn't seem
to be effective for me.  I've tried several different brands and
basically
none of them seem to do much of anything.

But for someone looking to try something, it's at least worth a try, as
it
certainly has its supporters.

Marc

colloidal silver

On Oct 30, 2007, at 11:50 AM, alison Williams wrote:

> Thanks Andrew and Marc, I understand... not sure I
> would notice any difference at the moment, my
> boyfriend has given me his 'man-flu'!!!!
>
> Im on milk and honey drinks!
>
> Thanks for the advice, I just want to do everything I
> can.
>
> Keep well,
> Alison
>
>
> --- Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
>
>>> When you get sick from taking a product/suppliment
>> which is not working for you or
>>> intolerable, what happens? is it a generalised
>> feeling of being unwell or are there specific
>>> symptoms to look out for?
>>
>> I've had a wide range of bad reactions to products.
>> Sometimes it is simply a feeling
>> of not feeling "right", while other types it is a
>> very obvious symptom -- sharp
>> winces of pain in the head, nausea, muscle
>> aches/pain, chest pains, anxiety/panic
>> attacks, hyperactivity/sleeplessness, increased ES,
>> etc.  Obviously, all of these
>> could be viewed as "detox symptoms", however there
>> are only so much detox symptoms
>> that I am willing to put up with...
>>
>> Generally if I have a bad reaction, I will try to
>> reduce my dosage and see if I
>> can eventually build up a tolerance for a product.
>> In some cases this is successful,
>> and I am eventually able to ramp up to a tolerable
>> dose.  In other cases my reactions
>> just get worse -- even at the tiniest doses -- and
>> in such cases I discontinue the
>> product.
>>
>> It's certainly possible that the supplements that I
>> need the most are the ones that
>> I've given up due to bad reactions.  However, I'd
>> like to think that one can recover
>> without horrible side effects along the way.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>
>
>
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>
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With advice from Bruce McCreary I have been experimenting with
unplugging the alternator on my 1982 mercedes 300D (diesel).
It gets rid of the 8 milligauss at the gas pedal, and I can drive
much further without reaction (working on a solar charger so the
battery will hold up; also disconnected a lot of stuff Bruce said
was draining power but not essential).

Now the magnetic fields from the tires are the dominant source,
at least above about 30 mph.  I may try to get them degaussed,
but apparently that's not always successful.  Nylon belted radials?

Bruce said some tires are better magnetic wise, like some Michelins,
but all have some magnetic field.

Bill

On 10/28/07, jaime_schunkewitz <jaime_schunkewitz@...> wrote:
>
>   One suggestion is to keep the radio off. On long trips I get
> chest pains if the radio is on. That goes for my Silverado and
> a 1993 Lexus LS 400.
>
> Also watch out for the dash dimmer switch. In my Silverado
> (0.3 milli gauss at the chest of the driver) goes up to 2 milli
> gauss when the dash lights are dimmed. It's OK when the dash
> lights are on full brightness.
>
> A used Cadillac CTS may be a good choice. It emits a very low
> magnetic field. I also get no ES reactions while driving my
> 1967 Camaro. No radio, and back in the good old days the dash
> was made of solid steel.
>
> Eli
> http://www.ahappyhabitat.com/cars.html
>
>
>


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> not sure I
> would notice any difference at the moment, my
> boyfriend has given me his 'man-flu'!!!!

Susceptibility to colds and flus are also a potential
negative side effect from detox supplements... :-)
Usually some combination of Cellfood, H-Minus,
Echinacea, and Agrisept-L will keep me from constantly
coming down with these...

Marc

Thanks Andrew and Marc, I understand... not sure I
would notice any difference at the moment, my
boyfriend has given me his 'man-flu'!!!!

Im on milk and honey drinks!

Thanks for the advice, I just want to do everything I
can.

Keep well,
Alison


--- Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

> > When you get sick from taking a product/suppliment
> which is not working for you or
> > intolerable, what happens? is it a generalised
> feeling of being unwell or are there specific
> > symptoms to look out for?
>
> I've had a wide range of bad reactions to products.
> Sometimes it is simply a feeling
> of not feeling "right", while other types it is a
> very obvious symptom -- sharp
> winces of pain in the head, nausea, muscle
> aches/pain, chest pains, anxiety/panic
> attacks, hyperactivity/sleeplessness, increased ES,
> etc.  Obviously, all of these
> could be viewed as "detox symptoms", however there
> are only so much detox symptoms
> that I am willing to put up with...
>
> Generally if I have a bad reaction, I will try to
> reduce my dosage and see if I
> can eventually build up a tolerance for a product.
> In some cases this is successful,
> and I am eventually able to ramp up to a tolerable
> dose.  In other cases my reactions
> just get worse -- even at the tiniest doses -- and
> in such cases I discontinue the
> product.
>
> It's certainly possible that the supplements that I
> need the most are the ones that
> I've given up due to bad reactions.  However, I'd
> like to think that one can recover
> without horrible side effects along the way.
>
> Marc
>



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> When you get sick from taking a product/suppliment which is not working for
you or
> intolerable, what happens? is it a generalised feeling of being unwell or are
there specific
> symptoms to look out for?

I've had a wide range of bad reactions to products.  Sometimes it is simply a
feeling
of not feeling "right", while other types it is a very obvious symptom -- sharp
winces of pain in the head, nausea, muscle aches/pain, chest pains,
anxiety/panic
attacks, hyperactivity/sleeplessness, increased ES, etc.  Obviously, all of
these
could be viewed as "detox symptoms", however there are only so much detox
symptoms
that I am willing to put up with...

Generally if I have a bad reaction, I will try to reduce my dosage and see if I
can eventually build up a tolerance for a product.  In some cases this is
successful,
and I am eventually able to ramp up to a tolerable dose.  In other cases my
reactions
just get worse -- even at the tiniest doses -- and in such cases I discontinue
the
product.

It's certainly possible that the supplements that I need the most are the ones
that
I've given up due to bad reactions.  However, I'd like to think that one can
recover
without horrible side effects along the way.

Marc

For me, a therapy or product that is not working has no effect or
change on my resistance to EMF.

"Working" is a noticeable change around the time of the start of taking
a new product or therapy.

I have recognized that noticeable change both by feeling like total
hell and then much better than before the therapy within 1-3 days
or
feeling much better immediately.

my 3 cents,
Andrew

On Oct 30, 2007, at 5:46 AM, ajwelectro wrote:

> Marc, this one is more aimed at what you say on the postings for the
> group...
>
> When you get sick from taking a product/suppliment which is not
> working for you or
> intolerable, what happens? is it a generalised feeling of being unwell
> or are there specific
> symptoms to look out for?
>
> If anyone knows, please can you give me feedback... I have bought so
> many remedies
> recently, all seems to be going well although I have taken the advice
> of the group and am
> taking things very slow under doctors supervision but I dont know what
> to be looking out for
> if things are not working.  Maybe this is based on a gut feeling thing?
>
> Thanks,
> Alison
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Marc, this one is more aimed at what you say on the postings for the group...

When you get sick from taking a product/suppliment which is not working for you
or
intolerable, what happens? is it a generalised feeling of being unwell or are
there specific
symptoms to look out for?

If anyone knows, please can you give me feedback... I have bought so many
remedies
recently, all seems to be going well although I have taken the advice of the
group and am
taking things very slow under doctors supervision but I dont know what to be
looking out for
if things are not working.  Maybe this is based on a gut feeling thing?

Thanks,
Alison

> Try Znatural from Spirit of Sunshine in the UK. I wish i could get it
> but it is only available in the UK. That site explains that it is
> created by Harvey Kaufman who created the NCD zeolite, but left the
> company--i don't know the whole story. This new product and all the
> alternatives to NCD are natural and based in humic acid, a nutrient. I
> am looking to compare zeolites in humic acid in the US.

Looking at the Spirit of Sunshine website, it appears to me that Znatural
is exactly the same product as Natural Cellular Defense.  Harvey Kaufman
never worked for the company that sells NCD -- he worked for LifeLink
Pharmaceuticals, and Waiora (the company which sells NCD) licensed
their liquid zeolite from LifeLink and called it NCD.

As for buying zeolite with humic acid, I don't think it makes much
difference either way... I've tried liquid zeolite products with and without
humic acid, and my reaction was the same (it was intolerable both ways!)/
And one of the companies which sold this (Denali) discontinued their
liquid zeolite product because they determined that it wasn't as safe
as originally thought.

Marc

Hi, Richard,

   I have been told, in my case, that my liver function and damage to my blood
brain barrier, both, are to blame for the chemical sensitivities.  For me,
breathing chemical fumes goes right to my brain thru my nose, apparently.

   It seems to be a consensus among those researching ES, that the blood brain
barrier is also affected in ES.  And Marc already mentioned liver damage and how
it might apply to those with ES.  A researcher by the name of Dr. Hadjivassiliou
(if you research this, add gluten intolerance to the search along with the name,
as I may have misspelled) from the UK, has found a "tight junction permeability
gene" in a percentage of the population, which would allow the blood brain
barrier to open, among other things.  (Tight junctions exist all over the body,
not just the bbb.)  I have celiac disease, which is a genetic disease whereby
gluten ingestion damages tight junctions of various organs, including the blood
brain barrier (and also causes damage to the liver in some cases, including
mine).  It is thought tj permeability is responsible for gluten and emfs getting
across the blood brain barrier.

   Btw, I am NOT saying that one with the tj permeability gene (ie possibly those
with ES and MCS) also has celiac disease.  I am saying that the tj permeability
gene sounds as tho it may be responsible for also causing ES problems, and
possibly MCS, on its own.

   D





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I am in the US, not UK.
I miss spoke about the alternatives to NCD. The Znatural does not
have humic acid, but is sometimes described as a purere version of
the NCD.

--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, alison Williams <ajwelectro@...> wrote:
>
> Morning,
>
> You can get Zeolite in the Uk from:
>
> http://www.thoughtfieldtherapywales.com
>
> email: sheila.waye@...
>
> I purchased off her a week ago and it arrived the next
> day.  Pls tell her I recommended you.
>
> Thanks,
> I hope this helps,
> Alison
>
>
> --- sctdh <bmfb@...> wrote:
>
> > Allison,
> >
> > Try Znatural from Spirit of Sunshine in the UK. I
> > wish i could get it
> > but it is only available in the UK. That site
> > explains that it is
> > created by Harvey Kaufman who created the NCD
> > zeolite, but left the
> > company--i don't know the whole story. This new
> > product and all the
> > alternatives to NCD are natural and based in humic
> > acid, a nutrient. I
> > am looking to compare zeolites in humic acid in the
> > US.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > > I am trying to order Zeolite in Uk but this is
> > quite difficult, if
> > anyone knows of anywere
> > > reputable, pls let me know.
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Morning,

You can get Zeolite in the Uk from:

http://www.thoughtfieldtherapywales.com

email: sheila.waye@...

I purchased off her a week ago and it arrived the next
day.  Pls tell her I recommended you.

Thanks,
I hope this helps,
Alison


--- sctdh <bmfb@...> wrote:

> Allison,
>
> Try Znatural from Spirit of Sunshine in the UK. I
> wish i could get it
> but it is only available in the UK. That site
> explains that it is
> created by Harvey Kaufman who created the NCD
> zeolite, but left the
> company--i don't know the whole story. This new
> product and all the
> alternatives to NCD are natural and based in humic
> acid, a nutrient. I
> am looking to compare zeolites in humic acid in the
> US.
>
> Paul
>
>
> > I am trying to order Zeolite in Uk but this is
> quite difficult, if
> anyone knows of anywere
> > reputable, pls let me know.
>
> >
>
>
>



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Allison,

Try Znatural from Spirit of Sunshine in the UK. I wish i could get it
but it is only available in the UK. That site explains that it is
created by Harvey Kaufman who created the NCD zeolite, but left the
company--i don't know the whole story. This new product and all the
alternatives to NCD are natural and based in humic acid, a nutrient. I
am looking to compare zeolites in humic acid in the US.

Paul


> I am trying to order Zeolite in Uk but this is quite difficult, if
anyone knows of anywere
> reputable, pls let me know.

>

One suggestion is to keep the radio off. On long trips I get
chest pains if the radio is on. That goes for my Silverado and
a 1993 Lexus LS 400.

Also watch out for the dash dimmer switch. In my Silverado
(0.3 milli gauss at the chest of the driver) goes up to 2 milli
gauss when the dash lights are dimmed. It's OK when the dash
lights are on full brightness.

A used Cadillac CTS may be a good choice. It emits a very low
magnetic field. I also get no ES reactions while driving my
1967 Camaro. No radio, and back in the good old days the dash
was made of solid steel.

Eli
http://www.ahappyhabitat.com/cars.html

If the place is also good for MCS people then look that route too.
Perhaps you can get doctors who specialize in Environmental Medicine
to post an ad in their office.

Bill

On 10/27/07, lunagirl32002 <j_genser@...> wrote:
>
>   Hi Paul
> I would recommend posting ads on ES related yahoo lists like this and
> EMF refugee, and on Planet Thrive's classifieds:
> http://planetthrive.com/cgi-bin/members/classifieds.cgi
>
> I would also suggest to post on Craigslist. Just be honest, ask for
> someone who is electrically sensitive or someone who does not use
> wireless internet, cell phones as their home phone, or cordless, etc.
> Just be careful about giving out the address to just anyone...you
> should interview them by phone first to make sure they are for real.
> Good luck!! Julie www.PlanetThrive.com
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups.com <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "Paul Coffman"
> <pkcoff@...> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could try to find a
> e-sensitive neighbor like me for the landlord before he gets just
> anyone? Anyone on this list want to live on a farm for $550 a month?
>
>
>


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Hi Paul
I would recommend posting ads on ES related yahoo lists like this and
EMF refugee, and on Planet Thrive's classifieds:
http://planetthrive.com/cgi-bin/members/classifieds.cgi

I would also suggest to post on Craigslist. Just be honest, ask for
someone who is electrically sensitive or someone who does not use
wireless internet, cell phones as their home phone, or cordless, etc.
Just be careful about giving out the address to just anyone...you
should interview them by phone first to make sure they are for real.
Good luck!! Julie www.PlanetThrive.com


--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Coffman" <pkcoff@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could try to find a
e-sensitive neighbor like me for the landlord before he gets just
anyone?  Anyone on this list want to live on a farm for $550 a month?

I have potentially found the ultimate gold mine for affordable esensititve
living in a barn that has been renovated into a duplex on a farm around La
Crosse, WI.  I will be renting the upstairs unit, the renovations are still
ongoing and should be done in about a month.  I am worried about the wrong
sort of person renting the downstairs unit - ie wireless router, etc.  Does
anyone have any suggestions on how I could try to find a e-sensitive
neighbor like me for the landlord before he gets just anyone?  Anyone on
this list want to live on a farm for $550 a month?



--
Paul Coffman


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NEW PRODUCT FOR ELECTROSENSITIVE THAT WORKS

Designed for persons that experience extreme sensitivity and does
work, to what degree depends on the sensitivity of the person. It
works on the basis of electronics and the movement of magnetic
fioelds and electrons. Worth a consideration. Its a different
approach than the typical and deals with the problem in a way that
will surprise those afflicted. Originally designed by a person under
attack from electronic weapons. Also there are specific supplaments
that have been heavily researched to get to the core group of
supplaments that strengthen the cell walls which is the primary
reason for electro sensitivity; where a weakness in the cell walls
causes an issue of greater conductivity between cells of weak
electrical forces. The electrical leakage can cause a further
increase in porosity of the cell wall and add to the sensitivity.
Such supplaments are mentioned on the website are Taurine. Collagen
types I & II & III, Amino acid complex with 20 sub components, 5-HTP,
melatonin, Phosphatidylserine, magnesium and others variously. But
these will decrease the sensitivity and the bands for wearing on the
body as stated in the beginning of this article will aid through
scientific means the prevention of electrical energy to interact with
the body. See http://www.us-government-torture.com/KIT.html
'Yours Truly
John Mecca
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