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#8390 From: pete robinson <robbo@...>
Date: Tue May 1, 2007 11:01 am
Subject: (No subject)
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> To all ESers: Lightbulb Ban
>  
> Lots of health conditions as well as ES can result in severe reactions
> to low-energy lightbulbs - we don't have to fight this alone.  Please
> write to your MP asking them to support Early Day motion 1316. 
> http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=33091&SESSION=885
>  
> Tell them that the ban on incandescent lightbulbs will mean painful
> ill health and total social exclusion for people with light
> sensitivity arising from lupus, XP (Xeroderma Pigmentosum), forms of
> eczema, ME ES and many other conditions
>  
> And sign the e-petition  http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/righttolight/
>  
> Together we can stop this cruel ban.

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#8389 From: "B.R." <agasaya@...>
Date: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:47 pm
Subject: New to group with questions
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Hi,

   My name is Barbara Rubin and I am an old hand with chemical injury but a
neophyte with electrical sensitivity. Today I had a major recurrence of this
problem when trying to help a woman over the phone with her own problem. Some
background:

   I learned I have mild to moderate EMF problems when I was renting a home and
they installed cable TV. I felt terrible in that room and gradually realized it
was a different issue than chemical exposure. I purchased an EMF meter and found
that cable raised EMF output on the TV by 5 milleguass and that my tolerance
range was poor for anything over 3-4 at base. So cable was disconnected and all
was well there for the rest of my tenancy (pipes burst and I was out of luck)

   When I moved into New England, I met a woman in Ct who was having terrible EMF
problems and seizures. I usually spoke to her briefly on my cell phone (ok for
me with a headset) but one day I spoke to her on a landline. I got so sick from
that connection that I was bedridden for days.  I called someone knowledgeable
in this because I thought I had gone crazy - problems over a phone?  He called
the woman and then got back to me with the same story. He got so sick on the
connection that his wife had to take over and explained to the woman that she
had to get an electrician over there right away. She learned that the house had
never been electrically grounded!  She was quite damaged from her years there
but at least found relief from that discovery.

   Current day: The woman I spoke with says Verizon came into her apartment
building and every apartment had fiberoptic cables and a box installed in a
closet.  It will be controlling TV, telephone and internet. She says it gives
off no EMF readings on her trifield meter (which works, I had her test it on
appliances) but says her radio has static indicating it must be radio waves
involved.  They also installed cables beneath the floor and she lives on the
ground floor.  By the time we had spoken for a half hour, I was so ill I
couldn't speak any longer and realized it was the phone - this time my cell
phone, not a landline. From prior experience, I realize there is something
terriblyr wrong over at her apt and am trying to figure out what she can do.

   Should she have the placed checked in case grounding is disrupted since
Verizon did their installation last January?

   Should she call Verizon and tell them her problem, hoping they will respond
properly and either remove the cables or shield them?  She has lived in that apt
for decades and relocating would be very hard on her, if not impossible.

   Suggestions?  Comments?

   Barb Rubin


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#8388 From: "Aline" <haikuron@...>
Date: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:07 pm
Subject: Re: Problems with bedroom
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Hi Eli,

Definitely not coming from downstairs - we have a vacation rental
down there and nothing changes when it is vacant. I don't have a
laptop but guests downstairs said they were picking up at least 2
wireless signals - one wide open so they could use it! I'm OK in the
adjoining bathroom so it's not a cell mast.

I'm thinking it could be a combination of things being directed
towards me via the overhead fan.

Will get that electrosmog detector - sounds like that might help me
figure things out.

Thanks,
Aline

--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, "jaime_schunkewitz"
<jaime_schunkewitz@...> wrote:

It could be electrosmog from your neighbors.

Do your the neighbors below you keep their TV or computer on?

How many wireless networks are available there? Find out by viewing
wireless networks on a laptop.

Is there a cell mast in your vicinity?

#8387 From: Marc Martin <marc@...>
Date: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:18 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Other Zeolite
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> He says this is not acid washed and destroyed like liquid zeolite.

By "liquid zeolite", I assume you are referring to Natural
Cellular Defense (NCD), which I have seen some talk about
on a heavy metal discussion group.  I however find it difficult
to take this, as it is VERY dehydrating and causes other adverse
side effects.

Do you have anything positive to report about either of the
products on the cutcat.com website (DESTROXIN / ZEOLITE PURE) ?

Marc

#8386 From: "sctdh" <bmfb@...>
Date: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: Other Zeolite
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Whoops, the zeolite is from www.cutcat.com


--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, "sctdh" <bmfb@...> wrote:
>
> Unprocesses zeolite powder is being offered as an alterative to
liquid
> zeolite. Lessemf is selling one brand.  www.zeohealth.com. I don't
> have much info on it but Jules ate lessemf has a lot to say about
it.
> He says this is not acid washed and destroyed like liquid zeolite.
>
> Paul
>

#8385 From: "sctdh" <bmfb@...>
Date: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:18 am
Subject: Other Zeolite
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Unprocesses zeolite powder is being offered as an alterative to liquid
zeolite. Lessemf is selling one brand.  www.zeohealth.com. I don't
have much info on it but Jules ate lessemf has a lot to say about it.
He says this is not acid washed and destroyed like liquid zeolite.

Paul

#8384 From: paulpjc@...
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: Re: new here: wondering if MRI's are a cause of problems
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There is no doubt in my mind that a feeling of anxiety is induced in ES
persons, I get this most notably from being in Mobile phone mast radiation,  and
dect radiation to the point that my heart will start to rumble !  I  state that
this is induced and is not caused by worry of being irradiated it is  a
direct chemical reaction that creates the unease/discomfort.  This of  course
can
then make you appear anxious and nervous when actually mentally you  are calm
and in control.  I hate this feeling !!!  It can rob me of my  self respect
quite readily.

Paul  UK






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#8383 From: "skrzn" <WilliamSchnell@...>
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:21 pm
Subject: Re: new here: wondering if MRI's are a cause of problems
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I felt the same years ago when I was living in a free campground in winters in
Arizona (zero
electricity, except for the solar power controller, which was 18" from my head
as I slept and
read). I felt anxious when in a public place such as supermarkets and wal-mart,
and people
think I am calm. (!)

I think that there was some damage to the body that made me (and you) sensitive.

I fixed this by doing a raw paleolithic diet, which rebuilds the body, and
living in a remote
place.

William



--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, "patd65us" <patd65us@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone. I am new here. In the past year I have had 1 CAT scan and
> 5 different MRI's. I started feeling really weird going into
> supermarket's, wal-marts and even my gym. It seems as if the
> fluorescent lights trigger a feeling of anxiety. If I go to the back of
> the supermarket where the diry/refrigerated section it also rteally
> freaks me out. Is there a way to deal with this? Do you think the MRI's
> are a cause of this. Its really weird. Thanks for the help. Pat
>

#8382 From: paulpjc@...
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:50 am
Subject: Re: Re: new here: wondering if MRI's are a cause of problems
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In a message dated 4/29/2007 12:26:49 AM GMT Daylight Time,  pegpare9@...
writes:

--- In  _eSens@..._ (mailto:eSens@yahoogroups.com) ,  "patd65us"
<patd65us@..p> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone. I am  new here. In the past year I have had 1 CAT scan
and
> 5 different  MRI's. I started feeling really weird going into
> supermarket' supermarket'<WBR>s,  wal-marts and even my gym. I
> fluorescent lights  trigger a feeling of anxiety. If I go to the back
of
> the  supermarket where the diry/refrigerated section it also rteally
>  freaks me out. Is there a way to deal with this? Do you think the
MRI's
> are a cause of this. Its really weird. Thanks for the help.  Pat
>




It is possible that the MRI scans have put you over the top. I have  had one
MRI brain scan but was not troubled by it, even though I am  bad ES. Your
description re the flourescent lights, refridgerators in shops  etc makes me
suspect that you may be reacting to the EMI/EMFS from these thus  you maybe
Electrosensitive, what triggers it is up for debate.  Take a  look at your
overall
environment and try to establish how much emfs you are  being exposed to and try
to reduce where possible your exposure to  them. This unfortunately includes
your workplace. A digital cordless  phone in your home if you have one is a
good start ie. ditch it !  Anything  wireless in your home...plus keep your
distance from elec appliances.(although  this does not always work due to the
stray RF emissions from  appliances)  Check out Electrosensitivity.org.uk for
some
good uptodate  advice.  PS you can buy sheilding fabric which you could wear
in a double  layer around your head if you are a women you can conceal this in
a head scarf,  you might find that this certainly reduces the effects of
radiowave devices that  will be abound in shops, not to mention all the mobile
phone junkies around, do  you use a phone and how much, you might want to
consider this as part of the  problem.


Paul UK

Paul UK






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#8381 From: paulpjc@...
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:32 am
Subject: Re: Re: Problems with bedroom
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In a message dated 4/29/2007 1:06:00 AM GMT Daylight Time, haikuron@...
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What  is an electrosmog detector?



Go to Powerwatch.org.uk they sell them there approx £55

Paul UK






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#8380 From: "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@...>
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:56 am
Subject: Re: Problems with bedroom
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It could be electrosmog from your neighbors.

Do your the neighbors below you keep their TV or
computer on?

How many wireless networks are available
there? Find out by viewing wireless networks
on a laptop.

Is there a cell mast in your vicinity?

Eli

#8379 From: "Aline" <haikuron@...>
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:04 am
Subject: Re: Problems with bedroom
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What is an electrosmog detector?

--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, paulpjc@... wrote:

ALINE = DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR AND "DITCH THE DECT" PHONE, ALSO SWITCH
OFF AS MANY ELEC CIRCUITS AT NIGHT AS YOU CAN IF YOU ARE SLEEPING ON
THE FLOOR WITH THESE ON YOU WILL BET BEATEN UP IN YOUR SLEEP.  IF YOU
ARE ES THEN YOU WILL BE TROUBLED BY A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE
OR YOU TRIFEILD, TRY GETTING
A BASIC eLECTROSMOG DETECTOR, RADIOWAVES DONT NEED WIRE AS YOU KNOW!

#8378 From: "pegpare9" <pegpare9@...>
Date: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: new here: wondering if MRI's are a cause of problems
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I cannot take MRI's due to the magnetic fields. I do not have a test
for you to take for this, but I would not take any more unles
absolutely necessary. Walk barefoot in an area that is away from
currents if you can. Peg

--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, "patd65us" <patd65us@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone. I am new here. In the past year I have had 1 CAT scan
and
> 5 different MRI's. I started feeling really weird going into
> supermarket's, wal-marts and even my gym. It seems as if the
> fluorescent lights trigger a feeling of anxiety. If I go to the back
of
> the supermarket where the diry/refrigerated section it also rteally
> freaks me out. Is there a way to deal with this? Do you think the
MRI's
> are a cause of this. Its really weird. Thanks for the help. Pat
>

#8377 From: "patd65us" <patd65us@...>
Date: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:54 pm
Subject: new here: wondering if MRI's are a cause of problems
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Hi everyone. I am new here. In the past year I have had 1 CAT scan and
5 different MRI's. I started feeling really weird going into
supermarket's, wal-marts and even my gym. It seems as if the
fluorescent lights trigger a feeling of anxiety. If I go to the back of
the supermarket where the diry/refrigerated section it also rteally
freaks me out. Is there a way to deal with this? Do you think the MRI's
are a cause of this. Its really weird. Thanks for the help. Pat

#8376 From: paulpjc@...
Date: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:57 pm
Subject: Re: Problems with bedroom
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In a message dated 4/28/2007 9:48:42 PM GMT Daylight Time, haikuron@...
writes:

Thanks  for any further clues that you can give me.

One final question: I  presume a battery-powered digital alarm clock
is a 'good  guy'?

Aline




PAUL UK replies

ALINE = DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR AND "DITCH THE DECT" PHONE, ALSO SWITCH OFF AS
MANY ELEC CIRCUITS AT NIGHT AS YOU CAN IF YOU ARE SLEEPING ON THE FLOOR WITH
THESE ON YOU WILL BET BEATEN UP IN YOUR SLEEP.  IF YOU ARE ES THEN YOU WILL
BE TROUBLED BY A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE OR YOU TRIFEILD, TRY GETTING
  A BASIC eLECTROSMOG DETECTOR, RADIOWAVES DONT NEED WIRE AS YOU KNOW  !






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#8375 From: "Aline" <haikuron@...>
Date: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:46 pm
Subject: Problems with bedroom
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I am still trying to understand what is making me so uncomfortable in
our bedroom. My partner continues to think that I am a nutcase
because there are no readings of any kind at the bed (on my Trifield
meter anyway.

I have been sleeping in the bathroom mostly (also because of a
snoring problem) but occasionally I manage to fall asleep in the
bedroom and I wake up in the early hours with my body tingling and
feeling bent out of shape (this morning I got out of there at 6am and
went through aches and pains as my body de-stressed).

We do have a digital alarm clock and cordless phone base in the room
but we have moved them away from the bed (they would be out of there
in a shot if it were solely up to me). Of course there are only
readings in close proximity to these devices so my question is: is
anyone here affected by these when they are at a distance? It seems
to me that electromagnetic energy is drawn towards other energy
fields (including the human body).

A few other things about the room which may or may not be part of the
problem:
There is a (mild) hot spot in the corner of the room (from underfloor
wiring).
We pick up wireless signals from our neighbor (who's house is in
close proximity to our bedroom).
The electricians went mad and put 8 sockets in this room.
My partner originally set up the TV and sound system in the bedroom
and wired the room for surround sound, with wires going to speakers
in other rooms. He moved it all out after we both got affected but
the wiring is still there.

As I have mentioned before it feels like I am being impacted by the
switched-off fan directly above the bed (which of course has no 60hz
electromagnetic readings) so my favorite theory is that the fan is
acting as a 'lightning rod' and conducting (maybe various)
frequencies to my body.

I had a fan directly over my head where I sat at the computer and I
could hardly use the computer at all. Felt like electromagnetic
energy was flowing from the computer through my body up to the fan.
Now the fan has been replaced by a light I am SO much more
comfortable and can stay at the computer reasonable periods of time.

Shivani stated that there is always an electric field if the item is
plugged into a live circuit (though not 60hz of course). Would a
Stetzerizer surgemeter measure the electrical pollution in this room?

I am still wondering if a body voltage meter would demonstrate to my
partner that something is TRULY affecting me?

Thanks for any further clues that you can give me.

One final question: I presume a battery-powered digital alarm clock
is a 'good guy'?

Aline

#8374 From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...>
Date: Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: Re: update
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What kind of a doctor is this Dr. Speight?
Here is his website:
http://www.cfwellness.com/

> For instance how did he test your Myelination?
There were many panels from these tests:
http://www.accuchem.com/tox/testpanel.htm

The Red Cell Lipid Biopsy reveals a number of things including the
Myelin information.
A DetoxiGenomic Profile reveals gene info
Genova Diagnostics did the Toxic Element Clearance Profile,
Body Bio did the blood Fatty Acid and Bio Markers revealing the
bilirubin and liver enzyme issues.

There are more.

> Where did those pesticides come from? Local
> spraying or ingesting food?
The DDT could have come from the spraying on my farm as a child.
Andrew

#8373 From: "Marc Martin" <marc@...>
Date: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:16 pm
Subject: New ES story
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#8372 From: paulpjc@...
Date: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: radio waves and speaker phones
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In a message dated 4/26/2007 1:01:17 AM GMT Daylight Time, pkcoff@...
writes:

does
anyone have an opinion what it is exactly that my phone could  be picking
up? Could it be some sort of radio wave, maybe evern the ones  from the
airport that I think I have a problem with - could these radio


Cordless phones can be impaired with wifi nearby, if you are ES you  probably
dont want a RF device in your home anyway, its just adding to your  load,
most of which you have little control over.

P uk






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#8371 From: "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@...>
Date: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: update
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--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
>
> Friends,
> I saw Dr. Speight, in Charlotte, NC for the 3rd time yesterday (over 3
> months). He had the recent round of test results and explained them to
> me to the best of my ability to understand the numbers and words.
>
> The upshot is my Lipid Panel came back very high in DDE (DDT that has
> broken down) and other pesticides/insecticides (organochlorines like
> HCB hexachlorobenzene, Trans-nonachlor and Oxychlordane)
>
> I read up a little on these things and it explains why I have felt
> crawling sensations on my face.
>
> http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC38351
> - Hypersensitive to stimulation, sensation of prickling, tingling or
> creeping on skin.
> - Headache, dizziness, nausea, vomiting, incoordination, tremor, mental
> confusion, hyperexcitable state.
>
>
> My Bilirubin is still high. My other liver enzymes and results where
> not good. I have had jaundiced (yellowish) eyes for a while.
> Acupuncture and liver cleansing with herbs and flushes have helped
> some.
>
> My vitamin D was extremely low. The Dr. hopes sunlight, UV light
> treatments and supplementation will help me feel better, help the
> bilirubin level and liver/kidney functions.
> If not, a ultrasound of my bile ducts will see if there is blockage.
>
> Hepatitis tests are next for liver disease.
>
>
> On the Toxic Element test, Bismuth was extremely high and next was
> Gallium, Mercury, Thorium, Lead, Tungsten and Thallium. Fortunately my
> Aluminum and Tin where much lower than the last test.
>
> There was a profile test on how I detox that revealed a high Catechol
> count (free radical marker) and a genetic test that showed a slight
> decrease in ability to detox but overall, should it work well enough.
>
> My Omega 3 was too high and Omega 6 not enough. I am upping the red
> meat and Evening Primrose Oil, Coconut Oil, and PhosphaditytlCholiine,
> etc. and laying off the fish and flax oils.
>
> My Myelination was low showing the pesticides have done there job in
> deteriorating the protective nerve sheaths. Good fats will hopefully
> replace and repair that.
>
>
> I have a very long list of supplements like Molybdenum, L-carnitine, 7
> Keto (DHEA), Butyrate, Oral Glutamine, etc. to help rebuild my system.
>
> I will do aother DMSA or some other chelator later after I have rebuilt
> my system enough to handle another round.
> Then, I think killing the fungus and other bacteria will be easier.
>
> There is much more and will leave it here.
>
> In summary, I believe detoxing incorrectly in conjunction with living
> in a bad EMF environment was part of how I got ES. The pesticides being
> released into my system, not having my gut and liver working well,
> allowed the toxins to be circulated back into the body, brain, etc.,
> bacteria/viruses from vaccinations like Epstein Barr (and god knows
> what else) took hold on a broken down immune system...
>
> Colloidal Silver has given me my life back. Seeing the test results, I
> feel better knowing what I am dealing with and look forward to getting
> my full health and vitality back.
>
> I hope something from this helps you in your search for happiness.
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
What kind of a doctor is this Dr. Speight?

What's the name of the test(s) that you took?
For instance how did he test your Myelination?

Where did those pesticides come from? Local
spraying or ingesting food?
Eli

#8370 From: "sandimaurer" <jspirit@...>
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:55 pm
Subject: leaky gut postulation
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Someone posted here recently about leaky gut and I hadn't heard of it
so i looked into it online. One of the things I had been thinking
about recently is the return of hair growth on myself and daughter.My
daughter has new hair all over her body where there was none or very
little (except her head) Even on her head she has a lot of new hair
coming in. And It occured to me that if the skin and hair are
returning to health on the outside of us perhaps other areas
internally where there might be hair or hairlike systems: the
intestinal tract, villi (finger like projections off the lining the
intestinal tract with hair like cell membrane extensions called
microvilli), would return as well. point being if emfs could inhibit
or destroy hair on the outside of our body perhaps the same would be
true on the inside.  Perhaps EMF's are one factor in the cause the
leaky gut?

Sandi

#8369 From: pegpare9@...
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: Re: "Purestream" EMI/RFI filters
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The machine you describe is for surveillance, it seems, from the microphones and
the movies I have seen. Undercover stuff, huh. Real smart to be able to see it
from the sidewalk, but par from the law enforcement I have seen here in my home
town. Police communication and surveillance can cause havoc with some people. It
can become dangerous, and health threatening, so meters are a requirement for
those of us that are sensitive and related to some who are not so provident in
the law enforcement area. The van you mentioned a while back is also strange. Do
you live on a street of someone that is under investigation?  I hope you will
not be in the vector of their communications, maybe you can request that from
the local Police Department or whatever it is called where you live. Be aware,
your request may backfire on you from scum with badges who take pleasure in
power afforded them from this knowledge and ability. So consider well if you ask
for assistance. I have found that a problem here where I live. I live in a
vigilante state, on the frontier so to speak, and law enforcement is elevated to
an art they think, but it is really not. It is pure power and nothing less. In
america, the War on Drugs has created the ability to harm with the
electromagnetic spectrum, and the high technology in use.
Did you ever get that thing out of your tooth? Peg


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: "Purestream" EMI/RFI filters


I have a handy fashions cap, one of their scarves and also have use
used aluminium foil.

I believe this place I live is a home for amateur hams and one time
the empty house had an odd looking metal machine they had placed
in front of the window with earphones placed at the side of it. At
the time they put it there the house was unoccupied, it was visible
from the pavement.

Maureen

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Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: "Purestream" EMI/RFI filters

> Dear Maureen; What kind of shielding do you have for your head? I also
have had the pit pat rattatat of this energy on me also. My husband thinks I
am nuts when I ask him things. I live across the street from a amateaur
radio operator(Ham) and in a depression of geography in my home town, over a
resevoir of oil going through my land or close to it. So your shielding
efforts would be fine to know. Thanks Peg
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: richgrav@...
> To: eSens@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 3:10 AM
> Subject: [eSens] Re: "Purestream" EMI/RFI filters
>
>
> One thing that could be happening that I have read about is that RF
> and electric fields as well, can travel through waterpipes in your
> house. If you go to this site
>
> http://www.emfacts.com
>
> and click on
>
> 11. A Guide For Homeowners
>
> Just over 1/2 way down this page under "What to look for in the
> home", section 2 is about Electrical currents on metal water pipes
> and it says you can get part of the pipe replaced with non-metal pipe
> to solve the problem.
>
> As for the whistling noise, I have that sometimes from the computer
> case I have which houses the components. I have tinnitus all the
> time, but this noise actually sounds different.
>
> I'm not an expert on this but with your hedge dying, maybe it's
> something to do with stray currents. I read something about this and
> I think things like grounding poles can harm plants around them.
>
> Richard
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, "m.a.norman" <m.a.norman@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for all the replies on this, but I'm a bit lost as to
> what would
> > be best
> > to shield against it or stop the problems I have which do vary..
> >
> > At times my vaccuum whistles when I use it and this is when it's
> bad. It's
> > not
> > all the time. So this is one aspect of the problem when I also
> feel its
> > effects.
> >
> > Another aspect is when the emf is high I can literally hear it
> pattering
> > against
> > the shielding I have on my head.
> >
> > It's quite obviously being drawn from the mains electrical
> utilities that
> > feed the
> > different houses, and these are beneath the walkway. I say
> obviously as you
> > can now see from my dying hedge from the front of my house to the
> walkway
> > 15 ft away. Also my dying willow tree outside that is close to the
> house.
> > The
> > spikes show high on my TriField meter even with my electrics
> switched off at
> > the mains.
> >
> > Then there's the high frequency sound that seems to home in on me
> that I
> > hear
> > that then sets up the tinnitus I've suffered since this began in
> the year
> > 2000.
> > These serve to make me feel unsteady and disorientated.
> >
> > I think that I need several shields to resolve the problems. But
> they all
> > stem from
> > electricity in one form or another.
> >
> > Maureen
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#8368 From: pete robinson <robbo@...>
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:27 am
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infact i would rather not use the halogen dimmer lights, any
recommendations what i could do
thanks
pete

#8367 From: pete robinson <robbo@...>
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:21 am
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hi
has anyone got a link uk for led halogen lights or hal lights that have
a uv blocker on them
thanks
pete

#8366 From: "Paul Coffman" <pkcoff@...>
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:00 am
Subject: radio waves and speaker phones
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Hi -

My big problem is (I think) radio waves coming from a local airport when I
am at my house.  One thing I noticed about a 900Mhz cordless speaker phone
that I have is whenever I use it at my house, and I'm using the speaker
option to talk hands-free with it, it seems to pick up some sort of
whooshing-fading in and out type of sound - I can actually hear it coming
out of the speaker, and then it acts like I am talking in that I can't hear
what other people are saying, and furthermore other people can't hear me at
all - if I push the 'mute' button so that the phone isn't picking up my
voice or any noise around me then the whooshing noise coming out of the
speaker goes away.  I can't actually hear the whooshing noise myself - only
through the speaker phone.  When I bring my phone to other places far from
where I live the phone is fine and no whooshing noise.  My question is, does
anyone have an opinion what it is exactly that my phone could be picking
up?  Could it be some sort of radio wave, maybe evern the ones from the
airport that I think I have a problem with - could these radio waves
translate to sound when they come in contact with the microphone inside my
speaker phone?  Or is it more likely some low-level physical noise that I
just don't hear normally?

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#8365 From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...>
Date: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:44 pm
Subject: update
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Friends,
I saw Dr. Speight, in Charlotte, NC for the 3rd time yesterday (over 3
months). He had the recent round of test results and explained them to
me to the best of my ability to understand the numbers and words.

The upshot is my Lipid Panel came back very high in DDE (DDT that has
broken down) and other pesticides/insecticides (organochlorines like
HCB hexachlorobenzene, Trans-nonachlor and Oxychlordane)

I read up a little on these things and it explains why I have felt
crawling sensations on my face.

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC38351
- Hypersensitive to stimulation, sensation of prickling, tingling or
creeping on skin.
- Headache, dizziness, nausea, vomiting, incoordination, tremor, mental
confusion, hyperexcitable state.


My Bilirubin is still high. My other liver enzymes and results where
not good. I have had jaundiced (yellowish) eyes for a while.
Acupuncture and liver cleansing with herbs and flushes have helped
some.

My vitamin D was extremely low. The Dr. hopes sunlight, UV light
treatments and supplementation will help me feel better, help the
bilirubin level and liver/kidney functions.
If not, a ultrasound of my bile ducts will see if there is blockage.

Hepatitis tests are next for liver disease.


On the Toxic Element test, Bismuth was extremely high and next was
Gallium, Mercury, Thorium, Lead, Tungsten and Thallium. Fortunately my
Aluminum and Tin where much lower than the last test.

There was a profile test on how I detox that revealed a high Catechol
count (free radical marker) and a genetic test that showed a slight
decrease in ability to detox but overall, should it work well enough.

My Omega 3 was too high and Omega 6 not enough. I am upping the red
meat and Evening Primrose Oil, Coconut Oil, and PhosphaditytlCholiine,
etc. and laying off the fish and flax oils.

My Myelination was low showing the pesticides have done there job in
deteriorating the protective nerve sheaths. Good fats will hopefully
replace and repair that.


I have a very long list of supplements like Molybdenum, L-carnitine, 7
Keto (DHEA), Butyrate, Oral Glutamine, etc. to help rebuild my system.

I will do aother DMSA or some other chelator later after I have rebuilt
my system enough to handle another round.
Then, I think killing the fungus and other bacteria will be easier.

There is much more and will leave it here.

In summary, I believe detoxing incorrectly in conjunction with living
in a bad EMF environment was part of how I got ES. The pesticides being
released into my system, not having my gut and liver working well,
allowed the toxins to be circulated back into the body, brain, etc.,
bacteria/viruses from vaccinations like Epstein Barr (and god knows
what else) took hold on a broken down immune system...

Colloidal Silver has given me my life back. Seeing the test results, I
feel better knowing what I am dealing with and look forward to getting
my full health and vitality back.

I hope something from this helps you in your search for happiness.


Andrew












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#8364 From: "Marc Martin" <marc@...>
Date: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:22 pm
Subject: Re: Re: chokes
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> Marc, I've had good reduction in the RF coming off my keyboard and
> mouse since I placed chokes on my extension cables.  This has allowed
> me longer times on my computer without significant ES symptoms.

Interesting!

I see that the Radio Shack website is all sold out of these snap-on
ferrite cores, however, I see that this website describes all sorts
of models:

   http://ferrishield.com/

And this brand can be purchased online from:

   http://www.alliedelec.com

Marc

#8363 From: "bbin37" <netfarer2@...>
Date: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:53 pm
Subject: Re: chokes
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--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > I'd also add snap-on RF chokes onto the extension cords Marc
> > recommended.  They can really help cut down on high frequency signals
> > transmitted up the cords into the mouse and keyboard.
>
> I've noticed that several of my cables have chokes built into
> them, but I have never bought any add-on chokes.  Do you find
> that these cut down on ES symptoms?  I assume they should
> be placed far away from you (close to the computer) ?  Is
> there any benefit to adding 2 or more chokes per cable?
> Does anyone know which frequencies are reduced, by how much,
> and where does the noise "go" ?
>
> Marc (in need of a class called "Chokes 101")
>

Marc, I've had good reduction in the RF coming off my keyboard and
mouse since I placed chokes on my extension cables.  This has allowed
me longer times on my computer without significant ES symptoms.  I had
to experiment as the cables have antenna qualities as well and can
pick up radiated RF from the computer or elsewhere.  I settled on
about half way between the PC setup and my keyboard area.

-Beau

#8362 From: "Gary Johnson" <gjohnson3712@...>
Date: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:00 pm
Subject: chokes101
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External chokes intended to be placed over a cable can be a solid
toroid or doughnut, or they can be in two pieces that can be placed
over a cable and then somehow secured to each other, say with a piece
of black tape. The latter is easier to place on a cable with big
things at each end, like a mouse cable. Performance is similar.

Chokes are made of a ferromagnetic material, usually a fine iron
powder mixed with other materials (boron, neodymium) and baked under
pressure. The recipe (bake temperature, bake time, pressure, specific
ingredients) determines the final characteristics. One may be
intended to filter 100 kHz while another is for 100 MHz.

The normal case for a cable is to have two wires, one to carry
current to the device (e.g. mouse) and the other to carry current
from the device back to the source. The magnetic fields from the two
equal and opposite currents tend to cancel out. An external choke
intercepts the external magnetic field. If this field is negligible,
then the choke has no effect on the normal and desired function of
the cable.

There are other possibilites for the cable where current flows the
same direction in both wires and the external magnetic field is not
negligible. Suppose the cable is 2.5 meters in length. It can act as
a quarter-wave antenna, either receive or transmit. If a quarter wave
is 2.5 meters long, then a full wave is 10 meters, with a frequency
of 30 MHz. Frequency and wavelength are inversely proportional. A 1
meter wave has a frequency of 300 MHz.

A choke basically acts as a resistor in series with the unwanted
current. It dissipates power according to the formula I*I*R where I
is the current in amps and R is the resistance in ohms. If we had a 5
ohm choke at 30 MHz and a current of 0.1 amp, the power loss would be
0.05 Watts. This loss appears as heat in the choke material and
finally as an increase in room air temperature.  Two chokes in series
would have a total resistance of 10 ohms, and a power loss of 0.1 W
if the current stayed the same at 0.1 amp.

The choke does not stop or block the unwanted current. It just
increases the resistance of the circuit, thereby reducing the
unwanted voltage, current, and electric and magnetic fields.

My guess is that these chokes would probably not help the ES
symptoms. However, the cost is relatively small, and they are very
simple to install, and they will certainly not hurt anything, so why
not try some?

Gary

#8361 From: "Marc Martin" <marc@...>
Date: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: chokes
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> I'd also add snap-on RF chokes onto the extension cords Marc
> recommended.  They can really help cut down on high frequency signals
> transmitted up the cords into the mouse and keyboard.

I've noticed that several of my cables have chokes built into
them, but I have never bought any add-on chokes.  Do you find
that these cut down on ES symptoms?  I assume they should
be placed far away from you (close to the computer) ?  Is
there any benefit to adding 2 or more chokes per cable?
Does anyone know which frequencies are reduced, by how much,
and where does the noise "go" ?

Marc (in need of a class called "Chokes 101")

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