Hi everyone,



Lately I've been experiencing "burning face"; it's not really a "burning", but

more like a sensation that's similar, but not "hot" feeling, kind of, but not

very, tingly.  It only happens on the left side of the face.  I seem to notice

it most when I'm on this computer for a long time, but not always.



It could be unrelated to that because it's not consistent, but since it's

something I'm sure some of you have experienced to varying degrees, it would be

nice to hear of anything you've had success with for alleviating it.



I'm currently taking up to 4 or 5 grams of Vit. C a day (though I don't know if

it's food-source vitamin C), a B-Complex, sometimes Calcium/Magnesium, or a full

spectrum Mineral formula (NOW brand)...occasionally Vitamin D, sometimes Purica

Recovery or Cissus RX for joint issues.  I can't say any of these cause

noticeable aggravation.



Any thoughts, I'd be happy to hear of them.  Antioxidants (more powerful ones)

come to mind, but I'm not sure...



Thank you!



R.

First you should rule out that the "burning face" isn't being

caused by one of the supplements you are taking!



After that, I'd look into adding antioxidants, essential fatty

acids, and skin lotion.



Marc

--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

>

> First you should rule out that the "burning face" isn't being

> caused by one of the supplements you are taking!





Yes, Niacin in a strong B 100, or by itself can give you a burning red face and

ears.



Sandra

I think good fats, Krill, Phosphatidyl Choline, and other cell wall

protectors help me with the burning. Burning skin is one of my main

symptoms (in addition to headaches and mood) and usually can track the

efficacy of a product by it.

Good luck and let me know if you find anything.

In the past, I have wondered if it is related to the histamine reaction

caused by aluminum. My aluminum is much lower now but still have

symptoms.



Andrew



On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:52 PM, stcro@... wrote:



> --- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

>>

>> First you should rule out that the "burning face" isn't being

>> caused by one of the supplements you are taking!

>

>

> Yes, Niacin in a strong B 100, or by itself can give you a burning red

> face and ears.

>

> Sandra

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

Thanks Andrew, I'll let you know if I try any of these.  I don't believe I've

ever tried Phosphatidyl Choline.



R.





--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:

>

> I think good fats, Krill, Phosphatidyl Choline, and other cell wall

> protectors help me with the burning. Burning skin is one of my main

> symptoms (in addition to headaches and mood) and usually can track the

> efficacy of a product by it.

> Good luck and let me know if you find anything.

> In the past, I have wondered if it is related to the histamine reaction

> caused by aluminum. My aluminum is much lower now but still have

> symptoms.

>

> Andrew

>

> On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:52 PM, stcro@... wrote:

>

> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:

> >>

> >> First you should rule out that the "burning face" isn't being

> >> caused by one of the supplements you are taking!

> >

> >

> > Yes, Niacin in a strong B 100, or by itself can give you a burning red

> > face and ears.

> >

> > Sandra

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>

I wouldn't rule out the computer.  My wife has burning face when exposed to

computers, cell phones, microwaves, speed radar cameras (thank you, Arizona

Storm Troopers) and satellite dishes.  Avoidance is very effective along with

proper supplements.  And avoid Direct TV.  To cancel their service, they have no

sympathy for the illness they cause and they charge an ungodly amount to cancel!



--- On Mon, 7/13/09, rticleone <rticleone@...> wrote:





From: rticleone <rticleone@...>

Subject: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 6:08 PM

















Thanks Andrew, I'll let you know if I try any of these. I don't believe I've

ever tried Phosphatidyl Choline.



R.



--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@. ..> wrote:

>

> I think good fats, Krill, Phosphatidyl Choline, and other cell wall

> protectors help me with the burning. Burning skin is one of my main

> symptoms (in addition to headaches and mood) and usually can track the

> efficacy of a product by it.

> Good luck and let me know if you find anything.

> In the past, I have wondered if it is related to the histamine reaction

> caused by aluminum. My aluminum is much lower now but still have

> symptoms.

>

> Andrew

>

> On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:52 PM, stcro@... wrote:

>

> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:

> >>

> >> First you should rule out that the "burning face" isn't being

> >> caused by one of the supplements you are taking!

> >

> >

> > Yes, Niacin in a strong B 100, or by itself can give you a burning red

> > face and ears.

> >

> > Sandra

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>







































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> I wouldn't rule out the computer.



I agree, but sometimes it is the combination of the computer PLUS a

certain supplement that causes problems, where the computer by

itself would not cause the same problems.  So it's worth

experimenting to find out.



Marc

Aye...I am a bit irregular when it comes to taking supplements, so it's

difficult for me to determine, but I'll give a go to it and see if I notice

something.  I used to take essential fatty acids on a regular basis but haven't

recently.  I eat sardines and salmon each week, though.  Argh, everything costs

so much.



R.



--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:



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Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Received: Monday, July 13, 2009, 11:03 PM



































       First you should rule out that the "burning face" isn't being



caused by one of the supplements you are taking!







After that, I'd look into adding antioxidants, essential fatty



acids, and skin lotion.







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Hmm, I hadn't considered that.  I've been taking B-complex because I assumed it

would be helpful for my nervous system.  This one says: Niacinamide: 50 mg.



R.



--- On Mon, 7/13/09, stcro@... <stcro@...> wrote:



From: stcro@... <stcro@...>

Subject: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Received: Monday, July 13, 2009, 11:52 PM



































       --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:



>



> First you should rule out that the "burning face" isn't being



> caused by one of the supplements you are taking!







Yes, Niacin in a strong B 100, or by itself can give you a burning red face and

ears.







Sandra



























































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Ha, don't worry about TV; I haven't watched it in years! Okay, maybe once when I

took care of someone's house for a weekend and they have 900 channels on

satellite.  Frankly, I was insulted by the amount of garbage on most of the

channels!



Yeah, I definitely have plans to try replacing this PC with a small battery

powered netbook and change the way the modem and router are powered - in due

time! If I had the funds I'd have made so many changes already.  Try not to hang

around on this thing too much, but this is a time where information is useful.



R.



--- On Tue, 7/14/09, angela england <mariaaengland@...> wrote:



From: angela england <mariaaengland@...>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Received: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 5:07 PM



































       I wouldn't rule out the computer.  My wife has burning face when exposed

to computers, cell phones, microwaves, speed radar cameras (thank you, Arizona

Storm Troopers) and satellite dishes.  Avoidance is very effective along with

proper supplements.  And avoid Direct TV.  To cancel their service, they have no

sympathy for the illness they cause and they charge an ungodly amount to cancel!







--- On Mon, 7/13/09, rticleone <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:







From: rticleone <rticleone@yahoo. ca>



Subject: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?



To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 6:08 PM







Thanks Andrew, I'll let you know if I try any of these. I don't believe I've

ever tried Phosphatidyl Choline.







R.







--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@. ..> wrote:



>



> I think good fats, Krill, Phosphatidyl Choline, and other cell wall



> protectors help me with the burning. Burning skin is one of my main



> symptoms (in addition to headaches and mood) and usually can track the



> efficacy of a product by it.



> Good luck and let me know if you find anything.



> In the past, I have wondered if it is related to the histamine reaction



> caused by aluminum. My aluminum is much lower now but still have



> symptoms.



>



> Andrew



>



> On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:52 PM, stcro@... wrote:



>



> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:



> >>



> >> First you should rule out that the "burning face" isn't being



> >> caused by one of the supplements you are taking!



> >



> >



> > Yes, Niacin in a strong B 100, or by itself can give you a burning red



> > face and ears.



> >



> > Sandra



> >



> >



> >



> > ------------ --------- --------- ------



> >



> > Yahoo! Groups Links



> >



> >



> >



>







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hi, Rticle and Others,

 

i have face burning with all that Mike mentioned his wife has problems with,

plus a few things.  but i do not always experience the burning.  how much and

what i am detoxing makes it worse--it can make me very much worse.  also which

supplements i am taking (or foods i have eaten) can make me better or worse. 

B12 helps me personally with the burning.  D3 also helps during winter months. 

manganese and taurine taken separately with later supplementation of calcium AEP

and pantethine can eliminate all my symptoms as long as i am not hanging out too

long in high emfs.  i can't say whether any of these will help others here, but

they do wonders for me.  for me, calcium AEP and pantethine (a particular

formulation of B5) have been essential for dealing with ES.  also i am actively

"grounding" myself regularly, using soda and epsom salts baths, etc, and i see

help with all these to some degree or else i wouldn't waste my time with them. 

  exercise is something else i find important for all my ES symptoms.  otherwise

my lymphatic system just quits moving (for me, lymphatic congestion leads to all

the ES symptoms). 

 

when i injured my hand recently, i severely damaged 1 of 2 main arteries into my

hand. the surgeon said i would have only 50% blood flow for a year or 2 until my

body managed to "reroute" the blood flow to all parts of my hand again.  my hand

was dark coffee colored and very swollen.  i began hanging out twice a week at

a riverbank where there are white water rapids.  i sit on a rock and dangle my

feet in the water there to ground myself.  it has had amazing influence on my

blood flow in my hand and circulation in general!  after about 40 mins there, i

can clearly see all the areas where my blood is flowing well, and not so well. 

the middle joint of my index finger to the tip is the worst--it actually turns

almost black.  after going there 2 times, my color and shape began returning

to my hand.  swelling went down and my hand was almost normal size.  BUT i was

in horrible pain in the rest of my body because i moved all the crap

  out of my hand and arm into the rest of my body, and my lymphatic system was

not handling it effectively enough.  (even tho hubby was giving me lymphatic

massage daily).  i am recovered now (from the lymphatic backlog--long way to go

yet for my hand) but i am relating how the lymphatics can get overloaded quickly

and it will take awhile to get the crap moved out, during which we will be in

alot of pain--ems, cfs, and fm-wise.  there was a lag between getting my

lymphatics congested to cleared out of about a week.  it would have been even

longer if i hadn't been exercising and soda bathing regularly, doing the

massage, drinking copious amounts of water, and eating copious fruits (yes, i am

back to eating fruits; i didn't eat fruits for 4 years but i need the extra

fiber) and veggies to get my kidneys and bowels working as hard as they could. 

all of these influenced my symptoms.   so i am suggesting here that using the

"all the tools

  in the shed" approach might also work better for skin burning.  try soda soaks,

R!  you might like it.  work at getting your lymphatic system going as

effectively as possible, too.  

 

my 2 cents.  good luck,

diane

 

--- On Tue, 7/14/09, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:





From: Marc Martin <marc@...>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 1:23 PM

















> I wouldn't rule out the computer.



I agree, but sometimes it is the combination of the computer PLUS a

certain supplement that causes problems, where the computer by

itself would not cause the same problems. So it's worth

experimenting to find out.



Marc





































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I would check for b12 deficiency

cindi

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: rticleone

   To: esens@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:39 AM

   Subject: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?











   Hi everyone,



   Lately I've been experiencing "burning face"; it's not really a "burning", but

more like a sensation that's similar, but not "hot" feeling, kind of, but not

very, tingly. It only happens on the left side of the face. I seem to notice it

most when I'm on this computer for a long time, but not always.



   It could be unrelated to that because it's not consistent, but since it's

something I'm sure some of you have experienced to varying degrees, it would be

nice to hear of anything you've had success with for alleviating it.



   I'm currently taking up to 4 or 5 grams of Vit. C a day (though I don't know

if it's food-source vitamin C), a B-Complex, sometimes Calcium/Magnesium, or a

full spectrum Mineral formula (NOW brand)...occasionally Vitamin D, sometimes

Purica Recovery or Cissus RX for joint issues. I can't say any of these cause

noticeable aggravation.



   Any thoughts, I'd be happy to hear of them. Antioxidants (more powerful ones)

come to mind, but I'm not sure...



   Thank you!



   R.











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I do wonder - though I've been taking a B-Complex, and do not eat a vegetarian

diet...



R.



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, cindi <cindiwonderer@...> wrote:



From: cindi <cindiwonderer@...>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:10 AM



































       I would check for b12 deficiency



cindi



   ----- Original Message -----



   From: rticleone



   To: esens@yahoogroups. com



   Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:39 AM



   Subject: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?







Hi everyone,







Lately I've been experiencing "burning face"; it's not really a "burning", but

more like a sensation that's similar, but not "hot" feeling, kind of, but not

very, tingly. It only happens on the left side of the face. I seem to notice it

most when I'm on this computer for a long time, but not always.







It could be unrelated to that because it's not consistent, but since it's

something I'm sure some of you have experienced to varying degrees, it would be

nice to hear of anything you've had success with for alleviating it.







I'm currently taking up to 4 or 5 grams of Vit. C a day (though I don't know if

it's food-source vitamin C), a B-Complex, sometimes Calcium/Magnesium, or a full

spectrum Mineral formula (NOW brand)...occasional ly Vitamin D, sometimes Purica

Recovery or Cissus RX for joint issues. I can't say any of these cause

noticeable aggravation.







Any thoughts, I'd be happy to hear of them. Antioxidants (more powerful ones)

come to mind, but I'm not sure...







Thank you!







R.







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That't a big symptom for me & do get that when I sit in front of my computer.

Avoid it is the only thing I know to avoid the burning. Loni



--- On Mon, 7/13/09, rticleone <rticleone@...> wrote:





From: rticleone <rticleone@...>

Subject: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: esens@yahoogroups.com

Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 3:39 PM

















Hi everyone,



Lately I've been experiencing "burning face"; it's not really a "burning", but

more like a sensation that's similar, but not "hot" feeling, kind of, but not

very, tingly. It only happens on the left side of the face. I seem to notice it

most when I'm on this computer for a long time, but not always.



It could be unrelated to that because it's not consistent, but since it's

something I'm sure some of you have experienced to varying degrees, it would be

nice to hear of anything you've had success with for alleviating it.



I'm currently taking up to 4 or 5 grams of Vit. C a day (though I don't know if

it's food-source vitamin C), a B-Complex, sometimes Calcium/Magnesium, or a full

spectrum Mineral formula (NOW brand)...occasional ly Vitamin D, sometimes Purica

Recovery or Cissus RX for joint issues. I can't say any of these cause

noticeable aggravation.



Any thoughts, I'd be happy to hear of them. Antioxidants (more powerful ones)

come to mind, but I'm not sure...



Thank you!



R.







































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My husband wanted to go from cable tv to satellite but my skin burns from ES so

from this post I assume that is not a good idea?! Loni



--- On Tue, 7/14/09, angela england <mariaaengland@...> wrote:





From: angela england <mariaaengland@...>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 10:07 AM

















I wouldn't rule out the computer.  My wife has burning face when exposed to

computers, cell phones, microwaves, speed radar cameras (thank you, Arizona

Storm Troopers) and satellite dishes.  Avoidance is very effective along with

proper supplements.  And avoid Direct TV.  To cancel their service, they have no

sympathy for the illness they cause and they charge an ungodly amount to cancel!



--- On Mon, 7/13/09, rticleone <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:



From: rticleone <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

Subject: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 6:08 PM



Thanks Andrew, I'll let you know if I try any of these. I don't believe I've

ever tried Phosphatidyl Choline.



R.



--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@. ..> wrote:

>

> I think good fats, Krill, Phosphatidyl Choline, and other cell wall

> protectors help me with the burning. Burning skin is one of my main

> symptoms (in addition to headaches and mood) and usually can track the

> efficacy of a product by it.

> Good luck and let me know if you find anything.

> In the past, I have wondered if it is related to the histamine reaction

> caused by aluminum. My aluminum is much lower now but still have

> symptoms.

>

> Andrew

>

> On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:52 PM, stcro@... wrote:

>

> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:

> >>

> >> First you should rule out that the "burning face" isn't being

> >> caused by one of the supplements you are taking!

> >

> >

> > Yes, Niacin in a strong B 100, or by itself can give you a burning red

> > face and ears.

> >

> > Sandra

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>



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My wife has worst symptoms in our cabin in a small town because of the neighbors

satelite.  We do not have cable nor satellite.  But we still get fried by the

neighbors on weekends they are home and using it.  Mike



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Loni <loni326@...> wrote:





From: Loni <loni326@...>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 8:55 AM

















My husband wanted to go from cable tv to satellite but my skin burns from ES so

from this post I assume that is not a good idea?! Loni



--- On Tue, 7/14/09, angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com> wrote:



From: angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 10:07 AM



I wouldn't rule out the computer.  My wife has burning face when exposed to

computers, cell phones, microwaves, speed radar cameras (thank you, Arizona

Storm Troopers) and satellite dishes.  Avoidance is very effective along with

proper supplements.  And avoid Direct TV.  To cancel their service, they have no

sympathy for the illness they cause and they charge an ungodly amount to cancel!



--- On Mon, 7/13/09, rticleone <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:



From: rticleone <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

Subject: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 6:08 PM



Thanks Andrew, I'll let you know if I try any of these. I don't believe I've

ever tried Phosphatidyl Choline.



R.



--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@. ..> wrote:

>

> I think good fats, Krill, Phosphatidyl Choline, and other cell wall

> protectors help me with the burning. Burning skin is one of my main

> symptoms (in addition to headaches and mood) and usually can track the

> efficacy of a product by it.

> Good luck and let me know if you find anything.

> In the past, I have wondered if it is related to the histamine reaction

> caused by aluminum. My aluminum is much lower now but still have

> symptoms.

>

> Andrew

>

> On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:52 PM, stcro@... wrote:

>

> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:

> >>

> >> First you should rule out that the "burning face" isn't being

> >> caused by one of the supplements you are taking!

> >

> >

> > Yes, Niacin in a strong B 100, or by itself can give you a burning red

> > face and ears.

> >

> > Sandra

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>



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hi again, Rticle,

 

i have mentioned this before but it isn't necessarily something others would

remember....  i took B12 for years during the day with other vitamins and

noticed no help for my ES symptoms.  (i noticed it did help my liver detox

things when i took it during the day.)  but i accidently took it before bed one

night (a sublingual form that bypasses the digestive tract) and THAT was when i

began to notice it helped my vibrating at night and skin burning the next day

when i got on the computer, etc.  B12 only helps me with these, tho, if i take

it at night.

 

diane



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, R. Ticle <rticleone@...> wrote:





From: R. Ticle <rticleone@...>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 10:06 AM

















I do wonder - though I've been taking a B-Complex, and do not eat a vegetarian

diet...



R.



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, cindi <cindiwonderer@ gmail.com> wrote:



From: cindi <cindiwonderer@ gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:10 AM



I would check for b12 deficiency



cindi



----- Original Message -----



From: rticleone



To: esens@yahoogroups. com



Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:39 AM



Subject: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?



Hi everyone,



Lately I've been experiencing "burning face"; it's not really a "burning", but

more like a sensation that's similar, but not "hot" feeling, kind of, but not

very, tingly. It only happens on the left side of the face. I seem to notice it

most when I'm on this computer for a long time, but not always.



It could be unrelated to that because it's not consistent, but since it's

something I'm sure some of you have experienced to varying degrees, it would be

nice to hear of anything you've had success with for alleviating it.



I'm currently taking up to 4 or 5 grams of Vit. C a day (though I don't know if

it's food-source vitamin C), a B-Complex, sometimes Calcium/Magnesium, or a full

spectrum Mineral formula (NOW brand)...occasional ly Vitamin D, sometimes Purica

Recovery or Cissus RX for joint issues. I can't say any of these cause

noticeable aggravation.



Any thoughts, I'd be happy to hear of them. Antioxidants (more powerful ones)

come to mind, but I'm not sure...



Thank you!



R.



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hi, Loni,

 

we all react a bit differently, so you might be ok with it.  however, i don't do

well around satellite tv boxes nor the actual dishes themselves.  my parents

have this and it bothered me greatly.  oddly, tho, it bothers me less now since

the digital conversion!  go figure!  :)  it still bothers me but i can tolerate

the symptoms now.  if you know someone who has satellite tv, you might check it

out there before getting it for yourself. 

 

diane





--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Loni <loni326@...> wrote:





From: Loni <loni326@...>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 11:55 AM

















My husband wanted to go from cable tv to satellite but my skin burns from ES so

from this post I assume that is not a good idea?! Loni



--- On Tue, 7/14/09, angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com> wrote:



From: angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 10:07 AM



I wouldn't rule out the computer.  My wife has burning face when exposed to

computers, cell phones, microwaves, speed radar cameras (thank you, Arizona

Storm Troopers) and satellite dishes.  Avoidance is very effective along with

proper supplements.  And avoid Direct TV.  To cancel their service, they have no

sympathy for the illness they cause and they charge an ungodly amount to cancel!



--- On Mon, 7/13/09, rticleone <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:



From: rticleone <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

Subject: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 6:08 PM



Thanks Andrew, I'll let you know if I try any of these. I don't believe I've

ever tried Phosphatidyl Choline.



R.



--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@. ..> wrote:

>

> I think good fats, Krill, Phosphatidyl Choline, and other cell wall

> protectors help me with the burning. Burning skin is one of my main

> symptoms (in addition to headaches and mood) and usually can track the

> efficacy of a product by it.

> Good luck and let me know if you find anything.

> In the past, I have wondered if it is related to the histamine reaction

> caused by aluminum. My aluminum is much lower now but still have

> symptoms.

>

> Andrew

>

> On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:52 PM, stcro@... wrote:

>

> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:

> >>

> >> First you should rule out that the "burning face" isn't being

> >> caused by one of the supplements you are taking!

> >

> >

> > Yes, Niacin in a strong B 100, or by itself can give you a burning red

> > face and ears.

> >

> > Sandra

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

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> >

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Hi Diane,



If I can find some B12, I may try it at night; though I don't know how it would

affect my dreams.  My mind is rather inventive at times, when I should be

sleeping - well, I am sleeping, but the dreams I have are sometimes rather

bizarre.  I don't know if B12 would aggravate that.  Have you noticed any such

thing?



R.



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:



From: Evie <evie15422@...>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 4:36 PM



































       hi again, Rticle,



 



i have mentioned this before but it isn't necessarily something others would

remember....  i took B12 for years during the day with other vitamins and

noticed no help for my ES symptoms.  (i noticed it did help my liver detox

things when i took it during the day.)  but i accidently took it before bed one

night (a sublingual form that bypasses the digestive tract) and THAT was when i

began to notice it helped my vibrating at night and skin burning the next day

when i got on the computer, etc.  B12 only helps me with these, tho, if i take

it at night.



 



diane







--- On Wed, 7/15/09, R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:







From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>



Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?



To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 10:06 AM







I do wonder - though I've been taking a B-Complex, and do not eat a vegetarian

diet...







R.







--- On Wed, 7/15/09, cindi <cindiwonderer@ gmail.com> wrote:







From: cindi <cindiwonderer@ gmail.com>



Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?



To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:10 AM







I would check for b12 deficiency







cindi







----- Original Message -----







From: rticleone







To: esens@yahoogroups. com







Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:39 AM







Subject: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?







Hi everyone,







Lately I've been experiencing "burning face"; it's not really a "burning", but

more like a sensation that's similar, but not "hot" feeling, kind of, but not

very, tingly. It only happens on the left side of the face. I seem to notice it

most when I'm on this computer for a long time, but not always.







It could be unrelated to that because it's not consistent, but since it's

something I'm sure some of you have experienced to varying degrees, it would be

nice to hear of anything you've had success with for alleviating it.







I'm currently taking up to 4 or 5 grams of Vit. C a day (though I don't know if

it's food-source vitamin C), a B-Complex, sometimes Calcium/Magnesium, or a full

spectrum Mineral formula (NOW brand)...occasional ly Vitamin D, sometimes Purica

Recovery or Cissus RX for joint issues. I can't say any of these cause

noticeable aggravation.







Any thoughts, I'd be happy to hear of them. Antioxidants (more powerful ones)

come to mind, but I'm not sure...







Thank you!







R.







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hi, R,

 

no, i have not noticed it affecting my dreams.  i too have inventive dreams.  i

consider this a plus.  i can go on vacation without leaving my bed or spending

any money!  lol  i once won a triathelon competition in my sleep!  ;) 

 

are you afraid of nightmares?  i have not heard of B12 affecting this but i will

look it up when i get offline.  if i find anything, i will post it tomorrow. 

 

d



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, R. Ticle <rticleone@...> wrote:





From: R. Ticle <rticleone@...>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 1:25 PM

















Hi Diane,



If I can find some B12, I may try it at night; though I don't know how it would

affect my dreams.  My mind is rather inventive at times, when I should be

sleeping - well, I am sleeping, but the dreams I have are sometimes rather

bizarre.  I don't know if B12 would aggravate that.  Have you noticed any such

thing?



R.



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote:



From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 4:36 PM



hi again, Rticle,



 



i have mentioned this before but it isn't necessarily something others would

remember....  i took B12 for years during the day with other vitamins and

noticed no help for my ES symptoms.  (i noticed it did help my liver detox

things when i took it during the day.)  but i accidently took it before bed one

night (a sublingual form that bypasses the digestive tract) and THAT was when i

began to notice it helped my vibrating at night and skin burning the next day

when i got on the computer, etc.  B12 only helps me with these, tho, if i take

it at night.



 



diane



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:



From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>



Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?



To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 10:06 AM



I do wonder - though I've been taking a B-Complex, and do not eat a vegetarian

diet...



R.



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, cindi <cindiwonderer@ gmail.com> wrote:



From: cindi <cindiwonderer@ gmail.com>



Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?



To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:10 AM



I would check for b12 deficiency



cindi



----- Original Message -----



From: rticleone



To: esens@yahoogroups. com



Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:39 AM



Subject: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?



Hi everyone,



Lately I've been experiencing "burning face"; it's not really a "burning", but

more like a sensation that's similar, but not "hot" feeling, kind of, but not

very, tingly. It only happens on the left side of the face. I seem to notice it

most when I'm on this computer for a long time, but not always.



It could be unrelated to that because it's not consistent, but since it's

something I'm sure some of you have experienced to varying degrees, it would be

nice to hear of anything you've had success with for alleviating it.



I'm currently taking up to 4 or 5 grams of Vit. C a day (though I don't know if

it's food-source vitamin C), a B-Complex, sometimes Calcium/Magnesium, or a full

spectrum Mineral formula (NOW brand)...occasional ly Vitamin D, sometimes Purica

Recovery or Cissus RX for joint issues. I can't say any of these cause

noticeable aggravation.



Any thoughts, I'd be happy to hear of them. Antioxidants (more powerful ones)

come to mind, but I'm not sure...



Thank you!



R.



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Hi again, R!

 

decided to google bizarre dreams.  found these sites:

 

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1238446,prtpage-1.cms

 

http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/features/freaky-dreams-what-do-they-mean?pa\

ge=3

 

look it up, R, there are alot of ideas which come up.  i entered "cause of

bizarre dreams" and "what causes bizarre dreams?"  certain meds caused me to

have bizarre dreams.

 

d



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:





From: Evie <evie15422@...>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 1:40 PM

















hi, R,

 

no, i have not noticed it affecting my dreams.  i too have inventive dreams.  i

consider this a plus.  i can go on vacation without leaving my bed or spending

any money!  lol  i once won a triathelon competition in my sleep!  ;) 

 

are you afraid of nightmares?  i have not heard of B12 affecting this but i will

look it up when i get offline.  if i find anything, i will post it tomorrow. 

 

d



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:



From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 1:25 PM



Hi Diane,



If I can find some B12, I may try it at night; though I don't know how it would

affect my dreams.  My mind is rather inventive at times, when I should be

sleeping - well, I am sleeping, but the dreams I have are sometimes rather

bizarre.  I don't know if B12 would aggravate that.  Have you noticed any such

thing?



R.



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote:



From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 4:36 PM



hi again, Rticle,



 



i have mentioned this before but it isn't necessarily something others would

remember....  i took B12 for years during the day with other vitamins and

noticed no help for my ES symptoms.  (i noticed it did help my liver detox

things when i took it during the day.)  but i accidently took it before bed one

night (a sublingual form that bypasses the digestive tract) and THAT was when i

began to notice it helped my vibrating at night and skin burning the next day

when i got on the computer, etc.  B12 only helps me with these, tho, if i take

it at night.



 



diane



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:



From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>



Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?



To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 10:06 AM



I do wonder - though I've been taking a B-Complex, and do not eat a vegetarian

diet...



R.



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, cindi <cindiwonderer@ gmail.com> wrote:



From: cindi <cindiwonderer@ gmail.com>



Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?



To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:10 AM



I would check for b12 deficiency



cindi



----- Original Message -----



From: rticleone



To: esens@yahoogroups. com



Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:39 AM



Subject: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?



Hi everyone,



Lately I've been experiencing "burning face"; it's not really a "burning", but

more like a sensation that's similar, but not "hot" feeling, kind of, but not

very, tingly. It only happens on the left side of the face. I seem to notice it

most when I'm on this computer for a long time, but not always.



It could be unrelated to that because it's not consistent, but since it's

something I'm sure some of you have experienced to varying degrees, it would be

nice to hear of anything you've had success with for alleviating it.



I'm currently taking up to 4 or 5 grams of Vit. C a day (though I don't know if

it's food-source vitamin C), a B-Complex, sometimes Calcium/Magnesium, or a full

spectrum Mineral formula (NOW brand)...occasional ly Vitamin D, sometimes Purica

Recovery or Cissus RX for joint issues. I can't say any of these cause

noticeable aggravation.



Any thoughts, I'd be happy to hear of them. Antioxidants (more powerful ones)

come to mind, but I'm not sure...



Thank you!



R.



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Hey D., well, I certainly don't like nightmares, and I've had my share.  Most of

them are very disjointed, and it's often the "mood" of the dream, rather than

the content alone, that has made them uncomfortable.  I don't take any

prescription meds, personally.  I'll have a look at those sites, thanks! Good to

hear the B12 doesn't aggravate your dreams.



R.



--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

>

> Hi again, R!

>  

> decided to google bizarre dreams.  found these sites:

>  

> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1238446,prtpage-1.cms

>  

>

http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/features/freaky-dreams-what-do-they-mean?pa\

ge=3

>  

> look it up, R, there are alot of ideas which come up.  i entered "cause of

bizarre dreams" and "what causes bizarre dreams?"  certain meds caused me to

have bizarre dreams.

>  

> d

>

> --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

>

>

> From: Evie <evie15422@...>

> Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

> To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 1:40 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> hi, R,

>  

> no, i have not noticed it affecting my dreams.  i too have inventive dreams. 

i consider this a plus.  i can go on vacation without leaving my bed or spending

any money!  lol  i once won a triathelon competition in my sleep!  ;) 

>  

> are you afraid of nightmares?  i have not heard of B12 affecting this but i

will look it up when i get offline.  if i find anything, i will post it

tomorrow. 

>  

> d

>

> --- On Wed, 7/15/09, R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:

>

> From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

> Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

> Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 1:25 PM

>

> Hi Diane,

>

> If I can find some B12, I may try it at night; though I don't know how it

would affect my dreams.  My mind is rather inventive at times, when I should be

sleeping - well, I am sleeping, but the dreams I have are sometimes rather

bizarre.  I don't know if B12 would aggravate that.  Have you noticed any such

thing?

>

> R.

>

> --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote:

>

> From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>

> Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

> Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 4:36 PM

>

> hi again, Rticle,

>

>  

>

> i have mentioned this before but it isn't necessarily something others would

remember....  i took B12 for years during the day with other vitamins and

noticed no help for my ES symptoms.  (i noticed it did help my liver detox

things when i took it during the day.)  but i accidently took it before bed one

night (a sublingual form that bypasses the digestive tract) and THAT was when i

began to notice it helped my vibrating at night and skin burning the next day

when i got on the computer, etc.  B12 only helps me with these, tho, if i take

it at night.

>

>  

>

> diane

>

> --- On Wed, 7/15/09, R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:

>

> From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

>

> Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

>

> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

>

> Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 10:06 AM

>

> I do wonder - though I've been taking a B-Complex, and do not eat a vegetarian

diet...

>

> R.

>

> --- On Wed, 7/15/09, cindi <cindiwonderer@ gmail.com> wrote:

>

> From: cindi <cindiwonderer@ gmail.com>

>

> Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

>

> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

>

> Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:10 AM

>

> I would check for b12 deficiency

>

> cindi

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

> From: rticleone

>

> To: esens@yahoogroups. com

>

> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:39 AM

>

> Subject: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Lately I've been experiencing "burning face"; it's not really a "burning", but

more like a sensation that's similar, but not "hot" feeling, kind of, but not

very, tingly. It only happens on the left side of the face. I seem to notice it

most when I'm on this computer for a long time, but not always.

>

> It could be unrelated to that because it's not consistent, but since it's

something I'm sure some of you have experienced to varying degrees, it would be

nice to hear of anything you've had success with for alleviating it.

>

> I'm currently taking up to 4 or 5 grams of Vit. C a day (though I don't know

if it's food-source vitamin C), a B-Complex, sometimes Calcium/Magnesium, or a

full spectrum Mineral formula (NOW brand)...occasional ly Vitamin D, sometimes

Purica Recovery or Cissus RX for joint issues. I can't say any of these cause

noticeable aggravation.

>

> Any thoughts, I'd be happy to hear of them. Antioxidants (more powerful ones)

come to mind, but I'm not sure...

>

> Thank you!

>

> R.

>

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B12 could give you energy. I wouldn't take it at night. Best morning and

afternoon. Loni



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, R. Ticle <rticleone@...> wrote:





From: R. Ticle <rticleone@...>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 10:25 AM

















Hi Diane,



If I can find some B12, I may try it at night; though I don't know how it would

affect my dreams.  My mind is rather inventive at times, when I should be

sleeping - well, I am sleeping, but the dreams I have are sometimes rather

bizarre.  I don't know if B12 would aggravate that.  Have you noticed any such

thing?



R.



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote:



From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 4:36 PM



hi again, Rticle,



 



i have mentioned this before but it isn't necessarily something others would

remember....  i took B12 for years during the day with other vitamins and

noticed no help for my ES symptoms.  (i noticed it did help my liver detox

things when i took it during the day.)  but i accidently took it before bed one

night (a sublingual form that bypasses the digestive tract) and THAT was when i

began to notice it helped my vibrating at night and skin burning the next day

when i got on the computer, etc.  B12 only helps me with these, tho, if i take

it at night.



 



diane



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:



From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>



Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?



To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 10:06 AM



I do wonder - though I've been taking a B-Complex, and do not eat a vegetarian

diet...



R.



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, cindi <cindiwonderer@ gmail.com> wrote:



From: cindi <cindiwonderer@ gmail.com>



Subject: Re: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?



To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:10 AM



I would check for b12 deficiency



cindi



----- Original Message -----



From: rticleone



To: esens@yahoogroups. com



Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:39 AM



Subject: [eSens] Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?



Hi everyone,



Lately I've been experiencing "burning face"; it's not really a "burning", but

more like a sensation that's similar, but not "hot" feeling, kind of, but not

very, tingly. It only happens on the left side of the face. I seem to notice it

most when I'm on this computer for a long time, but not always.



It could be unrelated to that because it's not consistent, but since it's

something I'm sure some of you have experienced to varying degrees, it would be

nice to hear of anything you've had success with for alleviating it.



I'm currently taking up to 4 or 5 grams of Vit. C a day (though I don't know if

it's food-source vitamin C), a B-Complex, sometimes Calcium/Magnesium, or a full

spectrum Mineral formula (NOW brand)...occasional ly Vitamin D, sometimes Purica

Recovery or Cissus RX for joint issues. I can't say any of these cause

noticeable aggravation.



Any thoughts, I'd be happy to hear of them. Antioxidants (more powerful ones)

come to mind, but I'm not sure...



Thank you!



R.



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When I was staying in Rio Rico where the electricity is not dirty I was fine

with the satellite but here I'm not so sure. I will be try it out before I buy

it. Loni



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:





From: Evie <evie15422@...>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 9:47 AM

















hi, Loni,

 

we all react a bit differently, so you might be ok with it.  however, i don't do

well around satellite tv boxes nor the actual dishes themselves.  my parents

have this and it bothered me greatly.  oddly, tho, it bothers me less now since

the digital conversion!  go figure!  :)  it still bothers me but i can tolerate

the symptoms now.  if you know someone who has satellite tv, you might check it

out there before getting it for yourself. 

 

diane



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:



From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 11:55 AM



My husband wanted to go from cable tv to satellite but my skin burns from ES so

from this post I assume that is not a good idea?! Loni



--- On Tue, 7/14/09, angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com> wrote:



From: angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 10:07 AM



I wouldn't rule out the computer.  My wife has burning face when exposed to

computers, cell phones, microwaves, speed radar cameras (thank you, Arizona

Storm Troopers) and satellite dishes.  Avoidance is very effective along with

proper supplements.  And avoid Direct TV.  To cancel their service, they have no

sympathy for the illness they cause and they charge an ungodly amount to cancel!



--- On Mon, 7/13/09, rticleone <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:



From: rticleone <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

Subject: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 6:08 PM



Thanks Andrew, I'll let you know if I try any of these. I don't believe I've

ever tried Phosphatidyl Choline.



R.



--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@. ..> wrote:

>

> I think good fats, Krill, Phosphatidyl Choline, and other cell wall

> protectors help me with the burning. Burning skin is one of my main

> symptoms (in addition to headaches and mood) and usually can track the

> efficacy of a product by it.

> Good luck and let me know if you find anything.

> In the past, I have wondered if it is related to the histamine reaction

> caused by aluminum. My aluminum is much lower now but still have

> symptoms.

>

> Andrew

>

> On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:52 PM, stcro@... wrote:

>

> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:

> >>

> >> First you should rule out that the "burning face" isn't being

> >> caused by one of the supplements you are taking!

> >

> >

> > Yes, Niacin in a strong B 100, or by itself can give you a burning red

> > face and ears.

> >

> > Sandra

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>



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Oh not good. Thanks



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, angela england <mariaaengland@...> wrote:





From: angela england <mariaaengland@...>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 10:20 AM

















My wife has worst symptoms in our cabin in a small town because of the neighbors

satelite.  We do not have cable nor satellite.  But we still get fried by the

neighbors on weekends they are home and using it.  Mike



--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:



From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 8:55 AM



My husband wanted to go from cable tv to satellite but my skin burns from ES so

from this post I assume that is not a good idea?! Loni



--- On Tue, 7/14/09, angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com> wrote:



From: angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 10:07 AM



I wouldn't rule out the computer.  My wife has burning face when exposed to

computers, cell phones, microwaves, speed radar cameras (thank you, Arizona

Storm Troopers) and satellite dishes.  Avoidance is very effective along with

proper supplements.  And avoid Direct TV.  To cancel their service, they have no

sympathy for the illness they cause and they charge an ungodly amount to cancel!



--- On Mon, 7/13/09, rticleone <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:



From: rticleone <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

Subject: [eSens] Re: Best supplement for "burning face" symptom?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 6:08 PM



Thanks Andrew, I'll let you know if I try any of these. I don't believe I've

ever tried Phosphatidyl Choline.



R.



--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@. ..> wrote:

>

> I think good fats, Krill, Phosphatidyl Choline, and other cell wall

> protectors help me with the burning. Burning skin is one of my main

> symptoms (in addition to headaches and mood) and usually can track the

> efficacy of a product by it.

> Good luck and let me know if you find anything.

> In the past, I have wondered if it is related to the histamine reaction

> caused by aluminum. My aluminum is much lower now but still have

> symptoms.

>

> Andrew

>

> On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:52 PM, stcro@... wrote:

>

> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:

> >>

> >> First you should rule out that the "burning face" isn't being

> >> caused by one of the supplements you are taking!

> >

> >

> > Yes, Niacin in a strong B 100, or by itself can give you a burning red

> > face and ears.

> >

> > Sandra

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>



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