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Parosmia versus Phantosmia

·  Parosmia -- distorted sense of smell

·  Phantosmia -- olfactory hallucinations

 

With parosmia there is a chemical substance that normally produces a certain scent, but the scent you now experience is not the one that you did before – for example, roses may smell like smoke and peanut butter may smell like dung.

 

With phantosmia you smell things even when there is present no substance that normally produces a scent.

 

Cheers,

 

Karl W.


From: dysosmia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dysosmia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Luke Sampson
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:02 PM
To: dysosmia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [dysosmia] Re: Also new

 




Hi Anne

 

Thanks for the message, if I am honest I am confused !  , I know Mick will agree it doesn’t take much!!

 

When I emailed Dr Henkin , he replied back and said I think you got Cyclical Phantosmia , but when I went to the Royal Ear Nose and Throat Hospital in London I have been diagnosed with Cyclical Parosmia. I don’t if I’m honest know what the difference is.

 

I have been put in touch with someone else who has been to see Dr Henkin and was put on Sodium Valproate which got rid of most of her problems and after some TCMS treatment she is now off the drugs and leads a normal life.  I am not sure what she was diagnosed with i.e. if it was pantomsia.

 

I know some people rate Dr Henkin, while other people don’t  , my biggest problem is that if I don’t get fixed here in the UK then I need to source treatment elsewhere , and that is where it gets expensive for me , which is no good when you have little money.    

 

How come you suggest Dr Leopold in Omaha , what does he specialise in, I have heard of him before but not so much as Dr Henkin.

 

Luke

 

From: dysosmia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dysosmia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne
Sent: 04 May 2009 23:52
To: dysosmia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dysosmia] Re: Also new

 



Hi Luke,

I know you are on vacation. I just don't think sodium valproate will help you. I was put on that for a year for phantosmia and it did nothing. I think your condition sounds more like phantosmia as it is unilateral and cyclical, although there are all kinds of smell dysfunction. I would try Lyrica. Sodium valproate is really difficult to tolerate. I know you are in Great Britain, but if you can contact Dr Donald Leopold in Omaha, Nebraska, he might be able to suggest something for you.

anne christie

--- In dysosmia@yahoogroups.com, "Luke Sampson" <luke.sampson@...> wrote:
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> Hi Anne ,
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> I have been diagnosed with Cyclical Parosmia by the ENT Hospital in London!
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> Here are my symptoms , i have cheated slightly and copied this from an
> email i sent someone as my laptop battery is just about to die on me!
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> My condition has gradually got worse over the years , I wake up as normal
> and even with 15 minutes or my smell and taste will just change, some days I
> can go with experiencing the problem , but these are few and far between. I
> can only describe what I taste and smell a bit cheesy , other times it can
> taste different. When I do exercise or get hot it will also trigger me to
> lose my taste/smell.
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> I used to be able to gain my taste/smell back by pinching my nose and
> breathing in words, however while this to use work it doesn't seem to
> anymore and also can hurt , I am scared to sniff or blow my nose, I always
> feel like I got a cold and generally I find myself dread going out to meals
> or drinking as this effect my enjoyment and when I do lose my smell/taste it
> does make me depressed.
>
>
>
> Other symptoms i recognise is that it seems to happen in only one nostril.
> Either way when i have the problem i don't want to drink / eat anything ,
> if i really have to have anything then it needs to be as plain as plain can
> be.
>
>
>
> Luke
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>
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> From: dysosmia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dysosmia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Anne
> Sent: 21 April 2009 23:14
> To: dysosmia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [dysosmia] Re: Also new
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> Luke - what are your symptoms? Are you just experiencing anosmia or do you
> suffer from parosmia or phantosmia?
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> anne christie
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> --- In dysosmia@yahoogroups.com <mailto:dysosmia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Luke
> Sampson" <luke.sampson@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all , here is my two pennies worth :
> >
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> > I am currently one sodium valproate tablets , and had been for now a month
> ,
> > and it seem to be working great with only one side effect (my skin was
> > really sore, and felt dry) , I had little other symptoms.
> >
> > During the last month it was better than I have been for ages, but since
> > Easter Sunday , it's really been playing up again ..... I am due to see my
> > doctor this week. I am still on 200 mg , not sure what else they will do
> > except up the dosage ?? , the doctors in London say i can go up to 600 mg
> >
> > The three or so weeks I was fairly symptom free, this could be because of
> > the tablets, or sometimes in the past , a week or so would pass where the
> > symptons would be less frequent and then return with a vengence, so
> unsure.
> >
> > Luke
>

 




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Hi Anne Thanks for the message, if I am honest I am confused ! , I know Mick will agree it doesn't take much!! When I emailed Dr Henkin , he replied back and...
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* Parosmia -- distorted sense of smell * Phantosmia -- olfactory hallucinations With parosmia there is a chemical substance that normally produces a certain...
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See reading that (Call me thick) , i am not entirely sure what i have got ! One doctor is saying one , and the other doctor is saying the other ! Argghhh...
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Hi Luke I reckon treatment will be very similar, yes. Mick ... I ... month ... my ... mg ... of ... the ... r===================== DISCLAIMER...
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Mick, I have to disagree with you on this. Marjorie and I discussed your posts about parosmia vs phantosmia. They are very different disorders and they are...
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Hi Anne I am still confused whether i have parosmia or phantosmia , and am not big on technical/medical words. Emailing Dr Henkin he says i have phatosmia ,...
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Luke, as a former patient of Dr Henkin's (though not a fan of his) I'm guessing he would recognize a case of phantosmia if he heard it described to him. I had...
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Yes I did explain my symptoms to Dr Henkin and he went with phantosmia , after I said I was from the UK and needed to find out cost, but he couldn’t give...
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Hi Anne Sorry for the delay in replying...... i had a letter back from the hospital in London today which was sent to my doctor , I was CC’ed/ Saying ,...
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Luke. You definitely have parosmia, that¹s the term that covers ALL distortions, so Dr Lund is correct. What type is the question. If you smell weird stuff...
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Happy to bow to your greater knowledge Anne. Thanks Mick ... in ... and ... am ... an ... me! ... normal ... it can ... me to ... and ... to ... always ... do...
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Hi Luke/Anne Officially parosmia is a wide-ranging term to describe any type of distortion in olfaction. Phantosmia (while still being a parosmia) is more ...
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Luke You are being treated in England I guess and with one theropy? Sodium valproate ?? What is that? Would you expand on that for me please?? tks Harry...
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Hi Harry sorry i am on holiday at present but will reply in more depth later J Luke From: dysosmia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dysosmia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf...
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Man, I am suffering from this disease. Today it has been very rough. Terrible in fact. Mark Nichols From: dysosmia@yahoogroups.com...
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Hi Sorry Harry what is it you wanted to know ..... e.g what sodium valproate is ? I am being treated through the Royal Ear Nose and Throat Hospital in...
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