--- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, "nickeyd13" <nickeyd13@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, I just joined the club. I am looking for help for a family
> member. I would like to get help but I don't know where to start. I
> think I would be a little hard because this is something that a person
> would be able to help better when they are younger but because he is
> older I just can't seem to find any help for adults. Please help,
> thank you!
>
Hello my name is Che and I'm 37yrs old. I have been trying to educate
and find help with my dyslexia. I have come to the realization that
once you go down the path towards getting help for dyslexia it can be
overwhelming and very costly. Which system is right? With study I have
gained knowledge. Peer reviewed, scientific, evidence based is the best
answer for most. Recently I purchased a DVD program that runs on my
computer. I'm about half way through it and it seems to be helping.
Okay, what is it, "Reading Horizons" if you plug that into a search
engine I'm sure you'll find it. It's an intense phonics that can help
adults...very hard to find anything for adults. It's not too expensive
and is pretty easy to use, so far it has been well worth it and I
probably saved myself a whole lot of time and money. I hope this helps
and get back to me if you have more questions.

Hello, I just joined the club. I am looking for help for a family
member. I would like to get help but I don't know where to start. I
think I would be a little hard because this is something that a person
would be able to help better when they are younger but because he is
older I just can't seem to find any help for adults. Please help,
thank you!

Hi

I like the idea of breaking down the words into colours.
We at APDUK haver also been using multi co,oured text as a coping
strategy for those who have phomological processing problems.
Especially those who have Auditory Processing Disorder as their
underlying cause of their dyslexia. We have taken adice from may
adults who have APD and desisnged the whole APDUK web site
http://www.apduk.org (those who have visual processing issues or
visual impairments may find this stressful) to demonstrate the many
diferent ways we APDs prefer text to be formatted to help us work
around our dyslexic symptoms.

best wishes

dolfrog



--- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, "carjug" <carjug@...> wrote:
>
> IF YOU GO TO www.geocities.com/carjug YOU WILL FIND SOME POEMS AND -
---
> --
> STORIES WRITTEN WITH A COLOR CODE. ALL THE VOWEL SOUNDS HAVE A
COLOR,
>
> BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. -IT AIN'T THAT HARD TO FIGURE OUT.-
>
>   THE COLORS MIGHT HELP PEOPLE WITH READING TROUBLE READ. PLEASE
GIVE
> IT A
>
> GOOD HARD LOOK FOR AT LEAST 15 MINUTES.
>
> THE WEBSITE IS FAR FROM FINISHED. I NEED SOME CRITICISM AND YOU
NEED
>
> HELP WITH READING ISSUES. GIVE ME A SHOUT AND TELL ME IF IT TRIPS
YOUR
>
> TRIGGER, (OR NOT).
>
>  I am not selling anything!!!!!!!!!
>                                              carjug@...
>

Hi Raymond


with regard to learning styles and potential dyslexia then there are
only really three main learning styles to be considered, Visual,
Auditory, and Kineasthtic,(VAK).
We have a working modle of these issues, and right/ left brain
dominance which can be downloaded from
http://www.learningstyles.apduk.org/lsworkingmodel.htm
and a further explanation at
The Power of Visual Thinking - What is Thinking
http://www.learningstyles.apduk.org/powerofvt1.htm
and a whole list of links and online articles
http://www.infosheets.apduk.org/learnstyles1.htm

best wishes

dolfrog

--- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, "astynaz" <astynaz@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am interested in differences of learning styles.   I feel that
many
> people can have problems with learning in school because their
> learning style conflicts with the teaching style.  This could be the
> result of learning disabilities or it could just be a learning style
> that is not mainstream.  This should be taken into consideration
> before believing that there is something wrong with you.    I
believe
> diversity in learning should be addressed because I feel that it's
> sorely overlooked. That can lead to misdiagnoses that could lead to
> unnecessary medicating as well as feelings of intellectual
inadequacy.
>
>
>
>
>  Results for: Raymond Andrews
>
>
> I am a 3 on Reflective Style (Active versus Reflective)
>
> I am a 7 on Intuitive Style (Sensory versus Intuitive)
>
> I am a 11 on Visual Style (Visual versus Auditory)
>
> I am a 5 on Global Style (Sequential versus Global)
>
>
>
>           ACT                                   X
REF
>                11  9   7   5   3   1   1   3   5   7   9   11
>                                   <-- -->
>
>           SEN                                             X
INT
>                11  9   7   5   3   1   1   3   5   7   9   11
>                                   <-- -->
>
>           VIS X                                                VRB
>                11  9   7   5   3   1   1   3   5   7   9   11
>                                   <-- -->
>
>           SEQ                                        X         GLO
>                11  9   7   5   3   1   1   3   5   7   9   11
>                                   <-- -->
>
>
>
>
> * If your score on a scale is 1-3, you are fairly well balanced on
the
> two dimensions of that scale.
>         * If your score on a scale is 5-7, you have a moderate
> preference for one dimension of the scale and will learn more easily
> in a teaching environment which favors that dimension.
>         * If your score on a scale is 9-11, you have a very strong
> preference for one dimension of the scale. You may have real
> difficulty learning in an environment which does not support that
> preference.
>
>     We suggest you print this page, so that when you look at the
> explanations of the different scales you will have a record of your
> individual preferences.
>
>     For explanations of the scales and the implications of your
> preferences, click on
>     Learning Style Descriptions.
>
>     For more information about learning styles or to take the test
> again, click on
>     Learning Style Page.
>
>
> http://adulted.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?
zi=1/XJ&sdn=adulted&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.engr.ncsu.edu%
2Flearningstyles%2Filsweb.html
>
>
>
>
> Raymond
>

--- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, David Smith <plexusmaster@...> wrote:
>
> Where do you live?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "goce74" <goce74@...>
> To: dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 3/31/07 6:28 PM
> Subject: [Dyslexia Club] hi
>
> Im 34 years old i dont have a clue if im dyslexic or not but i have
> had a great difficulties at university and to gain a degree.
> A third time i enrolled at faculty at age of 28. Im studing with
> difficulties and if there are some methods of resolving this im
> open to it. In my country this kind of disabillity is not known so if
> you can help i'll be greatfull.
> Often i ask myself do i have low selfesteem, how rational im!?.
> One thing that im certain is that i wanna live fullflled life and
among
> many other goals a university diploma.
>
Macedonia (or FYROM , in Eastern Europe)

Where do you live?

-----Original Message-----
From: "goce74" <goce74@...>
To: dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 3/31/07 6:28 PM
Subject: [Dyslexia Club] hi

Im 34 years old i dont have a clue if im dyslexic or not but i have
had a great difficulties at university and to gain a degree.
A third time i enrolled at faculty at age of 28. Im studing with
difficulties and if there are some methods of resolving this im
open to it. In my country this kind of disabillity is not known so if
you can help i'll be greatfull.
Often i ask myself do i have low selfesteem, how rational im!?.
One thing that im certain is that i wanna live fullflled life and among
many other goals a university diploma.

Im 34 years old i dont have a clue if im dyslexic or not but i have
had a great difficulties at university and to gain a degree.
A third time i enrolled at faculty at age of 28. Im studing with
difficulties and if there are some methods of resolving this im
open to it. In my country this kind of disabillity is not known so if
you can help i'll be greatfull.
Often i ask myself do i have low selfesteem, how rational im!?.
One thing that im certain is that i wanna live fullflled life and among
many other goals a university diploma.

--- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, David Smith <plexusmaster@...>
wrote:Need me to help with what? I recieved this email and am at a
loss as to how it pertains to my help? Do I agree or disagree with
vouchers? is that the question? I am not sure what is the best
source for the children as they all have different needs. What I do
think is that it is time for parents to take responcibility for
thier childs education. Somewhere it became the states or the
teachers respocibility when the parents are or should be, the
primary source of education. I have a great many friends who are
home schooling and if I had to do it over again that would be my
choice. These children are being searched out and chosen for top
colleges. Yes my daughter needed special help when she was in school
because of her disability but the money I paid in taxes would have
hired the best of tutors. She is now a teacher and is appalled at
the lack of parental participation in the childrens education. They
expect her to teach these kids things they should only learn at
home. She has been sexually harassed by a 5THGRADER! Come on parents
lets start paying attention and educate!!! agree to disagree, but,
in my mind, our system is the best one yet invented to raise the
standard of living of the most people possible.  Communism addressed
social inequities very well; it made sure everyone was equally poor.
>
> don_nairn <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:          Equally free
markets explain why the minimum wage in America is so
> low and the homeless, destitute and chronically ill in America
> struggle to have even the basics for life.
>
> I have never met a homeless person with a TV have you?
>
> We have homeless people in Australia too.
>
> As I stated before economics is very poor at addressing social
> equity issues.
>
> Economics dose suggest that part of the reason that the very rich
in
> the US do so well is because the very poor in the US do so badly.
>
> God bless America.
>
> I suppose the rest of the world can go to hell.
>
> As you asked I live in Adelaide Australia if you had checked my
> profile it is clearly stated there.
>
> Regards
>
> Don
>
> --- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, David Smith <plexusmaster@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, the system could be modified, but I would contend that the
> reason that there is a cell phone in every hand, and a television
in
> every home, and a computer in every house is the result of the
> ingenuity and industriousness of every American working within our
> free market economy that responds to the needs of the consumer,
> rewards success, and punishes failure.
> >
> > Here is an example of the "responsiveness" of the current
> system. I started a parents support group for children with
> dyslexia. I sent out 200 emails to teachers and principals telling
> them the group existed and how we might be able to help. I
received
> one reply. Everyone else did not even bother to even acknowledge
> they received the email.
> >
> > So, I'd ask, with 35% of children unable to read at a basic
> level nationally, and with poor children even worse off, what
would
> be your suggestion? We've tripled the amount of money spent per
> pupil with little success and now people are advocating more hours
> in the school day! Why would we leave children in schools that
> underachieve for more hours?
> >
> > Right now, I need all the hours after school to give my children
> time to read books that challenge them and tutoring in math
because
> their school doesn't teach them the cognitive concepts behind
math.
> I just didn't want them to be part of the huge number of students
in
> 8th grade that find they cannot handle algebra.
> >
> > I don't know what state you live in, but if you start looking at
> the test scores you might be surprised at the dismal state of
> things. One promising program is KIPP, the knowledge is power
> program. You can take a look at kipp.org. They run charter schools
> in Houston and I've begun donating monthly to one of them.
> >
> > David
> >
> > don_nairn <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > So with this system the academically gifted child will
> receive
> > $11,000 and the academically challenged child will receive
exactly
> > the same.
> >
> > The child born into wealth will get $11,000 and the child born
> into
> > poverty will receive exactly the same.
> >
> > Clearly this system suggests that the child somehow chooses to
be
> > born a certain way.
> >
> > This is a very new medical concept for me I would be delighted
if
> > you could share the science behind how children get to choose
> their
> > circumstances.
> >
> > Silly me thought that babies were made by adults having sex
> clearly
> > it is more complicated than this.
> >
> > While Milton Friedman may have been a great economist as a
student
> > of economics it is well acknowledged that economics is very poor
> at
> > addressing social equity issues.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Don
> >
> > --- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, David Smith <plexusmaster@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I would suggest Oprah since she has an interest in education.
> And
> > let me also suggest the following.
> > >
> > > The United States has one of the most innovative and excellent
> > medical systems and university systems in the world. But, the
> > public school system is lacking and unresponsive to the
complaints
> > of the parents. Why the difference? There is no competitive
> > pressure from the consumer of the system.
> > >
> > > I am a doctor, so I usually make this analogy. Assume about on
> > average 40% of children struggle to read. Now, here's the
analogy.
> > Lets say you came to see me as a doctor, and I told you only 6
out
> > of 10 of my patients lived after treatment. Then, I said, that
you
> > could leave and see another doctor if you wanted, but I would
keep
> > your money if you went elsewhere, and you'd have to pay an
> > additional amount out of pocket for the other doctor who had 9
out
> > of 10 patients surviving.
> > >
> > > This is why we should argue for vouchers. In my area,
> > approximately 11,000 dollars is being spent per pupil and 35-40%
> of
> > the children do not score above a basic level in reading and
math.
> > What if the state gathered a portion of all property taxes and
> place
> > them in a fund, and distributed a voucher worth 11 thousand
> dollars
> > to each child. You could spend it on ANY public school, or
> > parochial school, or private school, or materials for home
> > schooling. THE PARENT is the only one in the system who truly
> > advocates ONLY for the child, so the parent should decide where
> the
> > child is sent.
> > >
> > > Don't you think schools would be more responsive to the needs
of
> > the children if the parents not only could take the children out
> of
> > the school and send them to a better place, BUT THE SCHOOL WOULD
> > ALSO LOSE THE MONEY. Once the principal and teachers felt that
> > competitive pressure, they're would be a REASON to perform
better
> > because their lives would begin to be effected, not just the
lives
> > of the children and families trying to get a better education.
> > >
> > > So, if the petition is a mass emailing advocating a voucher
> > system for public education, sign me up!
> > >
> > > David Smith, MD
> > >
> > > PS By the way, Milton Friedman, the nobel prize award winning
> > economist was a great advocate of school vouchers because he
knew
> > that it would encourage innovation through competition just like
> in
> > the rest of our economy.
> > >
> > > Brenda Beebe <beebe30@> wrote:
> > > I am in the process of trying to see how much interest
> > would be in people from these groups participating
> > > in a mass email to the media.
> > >
> > > I currently have posted this question on two other email
groups
> > and received a fairly positive large response.
> > >
> > > There is a common theme all of us share, it is not what labels
> are
> > children have it is the struggles we go through
> > > with the schools and insurance companies. The system is not
> > working and the children are suffering. It is not really that
the
> > > laws aren't there for these kids it is the schools don't
follow
> > them and no one holds them accountable.
> > >
> > > To raise eyebrows and get exposure through the media, we need
> > massive emails. These emails should all be
> > > titled the same in the subject line and then we can give a
brief
> > personal story about the struggles we all have gone through.
> > >
> > > Please let me know if you are interested and I will keep you
> > posted of the subject line title and to whom we will
> > > email.
> > >
> > > Although it looks like Oprah and/or Anderson Cooper.
> > >
> > > Brenda
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > > Need Mail bonding?
> > > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers
> users.
> > > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I guess we will agree to disagree, but, in my mind, our system is the best one
yet invented to raise the standard of living of the most people possible. 
Communism addressed social inequities very well; it made sure everyone was
equally poor.

don_nairn <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:          Equally free markets
explain why the minimum wage in America is so
low and the homeless, destitute and chronically ill in America
struggle to have even the basics for life.

I have never met a homeless person with a TV have you?

We have homeless people in Australia too.

As I stated before economics is very poor at addressing social
equity issues.

Economics dose suggest that part of the reason that the very rich in
the US do so well is because the very poor in the US do so badly.

God bless America.

I suppose the rest of the world can go to hell.

As you asked I live in Adelaide Australia if you had checked my
profile it is clearly stated there.

Regards

Don

--- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, David Smith <plexusmaster@...>
wrote:
>
> Well, the system could be modified, but I would contend that the
reason that there is a cell phone in every hand, and a television in
every home, and a computer in every house is the result of the
ingenuity and industriousness of every American working within our
free market economy that responds to the needs of the consumer,
rewards success, and punishes failure.
>
> Here is an example of the "responsiveness" of the current
system. I started a parents support group for children with
dyslexia. I sent out 200 emails to teachers and principals telling
them the group existed and how we might be able to help. I received
one reply. Everyone else did not even bother to even acknowledge
they received the email.
>
> So, I'd ask, with 35% of children unable to read at a basic
level nationally, and with poor children even worse off, what would
be your suggestion? We've tripled the amount of money spent per
pupil with little success and now people are advocating more hours
in the school day! Why would we leave children in schools that
underachieve for more hours?
>
> Right now, I need all the hours after school to give my children
time to read books that challenge them and tutoring in math because
their school doesn't teach them the cognitive concepts behind math.
I just didn't want them to be part of the huge number of students in
8th grade that find they cannot handle algebra.
>
> I don't know what state you live in, but if you start looking at
the test scores you might be surprised at the dismal state of
things. One promising program is KIPP, the knowledge is power
program. You can take a look at kipp.org. They run charter schools
in Houston and I've begun donating monthly to one of them.
>
> David
>
> don_nairn <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> So with this system the academically gifted child will
receive
> $11,000 and the academically challenged child will receive exactly
> the same.
>
> The child born into wealth will get $11,000 and the child born
into
> poverty will receive exactly the same.
>
> Clearly this system suggests that the child somehow chooses to be
> born a certain way.
>
> This is a very new medical concept for me I would be delighted if
> you could share the science behind how children get to choose
their
> circumstances.
>
> Silly me thought that babies were made by adults having sex
clearly
> it is more complicated than this.
>
> While Milton Friedman may have been a great economist as a student
> of economics it is well acknowledged that economics is very poor
at
> addressing social equity issues.
>
> Regards
>
> Don
>
> --- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, David Smith <plexusmaster@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I would suggest Oprah since she has an interest in education.
And
> let me also suggest the following.
> >
> > The United States has one of the most innovative and excellent
> medical systems and university systems in the world. But, the
> public school system is lacking and unresponsive to the complaints
> of the parents. Why the difference? There is no competitive
> pressure from the consumer of the system.
> >
> > I am a doctor, so I usually make this analogy. Assume about on
> average 40% of children struggle to read. Now, here's the analogy.
> Lets say you came to see me as a doctor, and I told you only 6 out
> of 10 of my patients lived after treatment. Then, I said, that you
> could leave and see another doctor if you wanted, but I would keep
> your money if you went elsewhere, and you'd have to pay an
> additional amount out of pocket for the other doctor who had 9 out
> of 10 patients surviving.
> >
> > This is why we should argue for vouchers. In my area,
> approximately 11,000 dollars is being spent per pupil and 35-40%
of
> the children do not score above a basic level in reading and math.
> What if the state gathered a portion of all property taxes and
place
> them in a fund, and distributed a voucher worth 11 thousand
dollars
> to each child. You could spend it on ANY public school, or
> parochial school, or private school, or materials for home
> schooling. THE PARENT is the only one in the system who truly
> advocates ONLY for the child, so the parent should decide where
the
> child is sent.
> >
> > Don't you think schools would be more responsive to the needs of
> the children if the parents not only could take the children out
of
> the school and send them to a better place, BUT THE SCHOOL WOULD
> ALSO LOSE THE MONEY. Once the principal and teachers felt that
> competitive pressure, they're would be a REASON to perform better
> because their lives would begin to be effected, not just the lives
> of the children and families trying to get a better education.
> >
> > So, if the petition is a mass emailing advocating a voucher
> system for public education, sign me up!
> >
> > David Smith, MD
> >
> > PS By the way, Milton Friedman, the nobel prize award winning
> economist was a great advocate of school vouchers because he knew
> that it would encourage innovation through competition just like
in
> the rest of our economy.
> >
> > Brenda Beebe <beebe30@> wrote:
> > I am in the process of trying to see how much interest
> would be in people from these groups participating
> > in a mass email to the media.
> >
> > I currently have posted this question on two other email groups
> and received a fairly positive large response.
> >
> > There is a common theme all of us share, it is not what labels
are
> children have it is the struggles we go through
> > with the schools and insurance companies. The system is not
> working and the children are suffering. It is not really that the
> > laws aren't there for these kids it is the schools don't follow
> them and no one holds them accountable.
> >
> > To raise eyebrows and get exposure through the media, we need
> massive emails. These emails should all be
> > titled the same in the subject line and then we can give a brief
> personal story about the struggles we all have gone through.
> >
> > Please let me know if you are interested and I will keep you
> posted of the subject line title and to whom we will
> > email.
> >
> > Although it looks like Oprah and/or Anderson Cooper.
> >
> > Brenda
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > Need Mail bonding?
> > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers
users.
> > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Equally free markets explain why the minimum wage in America is so
low and the homeless, destitute and chronically ill in America
struggle to have even the basics for life.

I have never met a homeless person with a TV have you?

We have homeless people in Australia too.

As I stated before economics is very poor at addressing social
equity issues.

Economics dose suggest that part of the reason that the very rich in
the US do so well is because the very poor in the US do so badly.

God bless America.

I suppose the rest of the world can go to hell.

As you asked I live in Adelaide Australia if you had checked my
profile it is clearly stated there.

Regards

Don



--- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, David Smith <plexusmaster@...>
wrote:
>
> Well, the system could be modified, but I would contend that the
reason that there is a cell phone in every hand, and a television in
every home, and a computer in every house is the result of the
ingenuity and industriousness of every American working within our
free market economy that responds to the needs of the consumer,
rewards success, and punishes failure.
>
>   Here is an example of the "responsiveness" of the current
system.  I started a parents support group for children with
dyslexia.  I sent out 200 emails to teachers and principals telling
them the group existed and how we might be able to help.  I received
one reply.  Everyone else did not even bother to even acknowledge
they received the email.
>
>   So, I'd ask, with 35% of children unable to read at a basic
level nationally, and with poor children even worse off, what would
be your suggestion?  We've tripled the amount of money spent per
pupil with little success and now people are advocating more hours
in the school day!  Why would we leave children in schools that
underachieve for more hours?
>
>   Right now, I need all the hours after school to give my children
time to read books that challenge them and tutoring in math because
their school doesn't teach them the cognitive concepts behind math.
I just didn't want them to be part of the huge number of students in
8th grade that find they cannot handle algebra.
>
>   I don't know what state you live in, but if you start looking at
the test scores you might be surprised at the dismal state of
things.  One promising program is KIPP, the knowledge is power
program.  You can take a look at kipp.org.  They run charter schools
in Houston and I've begun donating monthly to one of them.
>
>   David
>
> don_nairn <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>           So with this system the academically gifted child will
receive
> $11,000 and the academically challenged child will receive exactly
> the same.
>
> The child born into wealth will get $11,000 and the child born
into
> poverty will receive exactly the same.
>
> Clearly this system suggests that the child somehow chooses to be
> born a certain way.
>
> This is a very new medical concept for me I would be delighted if
> you could share the science behind how children get to choose
their
> circumstances.
>
> Silly me thought that babies were made by adults having sex
clearly
> it is more complicated than this.
>
> While Milton Friedman may have been a great economist as a student
> of economics it is well acknowledged that economics is very poor
at
> addressing social equity issues.
>
> Regards
>
> Don
>
> --- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, David Smith <plexusmaster@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I would suggest Oprah since she has an interest in education.
And
> let me also suggest the following.
> >
> > The United States has one of the most innovative and excellent
> medical systems and university systems in the world. But, the
> public school system is lacking and unresponsive to the complaints
> of the parents. Why the difference? There is no competitive
> pressure from the consumer of the system.
> >
> > I am a doctor, so I usually make this analogy. Assume about on
> average 40% of children struggle to read. Now, here's the analogy.
> Lets say you came to see me as a doctor, and I told you only 6 out
> of 10 of my patients lived after treatment. Then, I said, that you
> could leave and see another doctor if you wanted, but I would keep
> your money if you went elsewhere, and you'd have to pay an
> additional amount out of pocket for the other doctor who had 9 out
> of 10 patients surviving.
> >
> > This is why we should argue for vouchers. In my area,
> approximately 11,000 dollars is being spent per pupil and 35-40%
of
> the children do not score above a basic level in reading and math.
> What if the state gathered a portion of all property taxes and
place
> them in a fund, and distributed a voucher worth 11 thousand
dollars
> to each child. You could spend it on ANY public school, or
> parochial school, or private school, or materials for home
> schooling. THE PARENT is the only one in the system who truly
> advocates ONLY for the child, so the parent should decide where
the
> child is sent.
> >
> > Don't you think schools would be more responsive to the needs of
> the children if the parents not only could take the children out
of
> the school and send them to a better place, BUT THE SCHOOL WOULD
> ALSO LOSE THE MONEY. Once the principal and teachers felt that
> competitive pressure, they're would be a REASON to perform better
> because their lives would begin to be effected, not just the lives
> of the children and families trying to get a better education.
> >
> > So, if the petition is a mass emailing advocating a voucher
> system for public education, sign me up!
> >
> > David Smith, MD
> >
> > PS By the way, Milton Friedman, the nobel prize award winning
> economist was a great advocate of school vouchers because he knew
> that it would encourage innovation through competition just like
in
> the rest of our economy.
> >
> > Brenda Beebe <beebe30@> wrote:
> > I am in the process of trying to see how much interest
> would be in people from these groups participating
> > in a mass email to the media.
> >
> > I currently have posted this question on two other email groups
> and received a fairly positive large response.
> >
> > There is a common theme all of us share, it is not what labels
are
> children have it is the struggles we go through
> > with the schools and insurance companies. The system is not
> working and the children are suffering. It is not really that the
> > laws aren't there for these kids it is the schools don't follow
> them and no one holds them accountable.
> >
> > To raise eyebrows and get exposure through the media, we need
> massive emails. These emails should all be
> > titled the same in the subject line and then we can give a brief
> personal story about the struggles we all have gone through.
> >
> > Please let me know if you are interested and I will keep you
> posted of the subject line title and to whom we will
> > email.
> >
> > Although it looks like Oprah and/or Anderson Cooper.
> >
> > Brenda
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
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> > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Well, the system could be modified, but I would contend that the reason that
there is a cell phone in every hand, and a television in every home, and a
computer in every house is the result of the ingenuity and industriousness of
every American working within our free market economy that responds to the needs
of the consumer, rewards success, and punishes failure.

   Here is an example of the "responsiveness" of the current system.  I started a
parents support group for children with dyslexia.  I sent out 200 emails to
teachers and principals telling them the group existed and how we might be able
to help.  I received one reply.  Everyone else did not even bother to even
acknowledge they received the email.

   So, I'd ask, with 35% of children unable to read at a basic level nationally,
and with poor children even worse off, what would be your suggestion?  We've
tripled the amount of money spent per pupil with little success and now people
are advocating more hours in the school day!  Why would we leave children in
schools that underachieve for more hours?

   Right now, I need all the hours after school to give my children time to read
books that challenge them and tutoring in math because their school doesn't
teach them the cognitive concepts behind math.  I just didn't want them to be
part of the huge number of students in 8th grade that find they cannot handle
algebra.

   I don't know what state you live in, but if you start looking at the test
scores you might be surprised at the dismal state of things.  One promising
program is KIPP, the knowledge is power program.  You can take a look at
kipp.org.  They run charter schools in Houston and I've begun donating monthly
to one of them.

   David

don_nairn <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
           So with this system the academically gifted child will receive
$11,000 and the academically challenged child will receive exactly
the same.

The child born into wealth will get $11,000 and the child born into
poverty will receive exactly the same.

Clearly this system suggests that the child somehow chooses to be
born a certain way.

This is a very new medical concept for me I would be delighted if
you could share the science behind how children get to choose their
circumstances.

Silly me thought that babies were made by adults having sex clearly
it is more complicated than this.

While Milton Friedman may have been a great economist as a student
of economics it is well acknowledged that economics is very poor at
addressing social equity issues.

Regards

Don

--- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, David Smith <plexusmaster@...>
wrote:
>
> I would suggest Oprah since she has an interest in education. And
let me also suggest the following.
>
> The United States has one of the most innovative and excellent
medical systems and university systems in the world. But, the
public school system is lacking and unresponsive to the complaints
of the parents. Why the difference? There is no competitive
pressure from the consumer of the system.
>
> I am a doctor, so I usually make this analogy. Assume about on
average 40% of children struggle to read. Now, here's the analogy.
Lets say you came to see me as a doctor, and I told you only 6 out
of 10 of my patients lived after treatment. Then, I said, that you
could leave and see another doctor if you wanted, but I would keep
your money if you went elsewhere, and you'd have to pay an
additional amount out of pocket for the other doctor who had 9 out
of 10 patients surviving.
>
> This is why we should argue for vouchers. In my area,
approximately 11,000 dollars is being spent per pupil and 35-40% of
the children do not score above a basic level in reading and math.
What if the state gathered a portion of all property taxes and place
them in a fund, and distributed a voucher worth 11 thousand dollars
to each child. You could spend it on ANY public school, or
parochial school, or private school, or materials for home
schooling. THE PARENT is the only one in the system who truly
advocates ONLY for the child, so the parent should decide where the
child is sent.
>
> Don't you think schools would be more responsive to the needs of
the children if the parents not only could take the children out of
the school and send them to a better place, BUT THE SCHOOL WOULD
ALSO LOSE THE MONEY. Once the principal and teachers felt that
competitive pressure, they're would be a REASON to perform better
because their lives would begin to be effected, not just the lives
of the children and families trying to get a better education.
>
> So, if the petition is a mass emailing advocating a voucher
system for public education, sign me up!
>
> David Smith, MD
>
> PS By the way, Milton Friedman, the nobel prize award winning
economist was a great advocate of school vouchers because he knew
that it would encourage innovation through competition just like in
the rest of our economy.
>
> Brenda Beebe <beebe30@...> wrote:
> I am in the process of trying to see how much interest
would be in people from these groups participating
> in a mass email to the media.
>
> I currently have posted this question on two other email groups
and received a fairly positive large response.
>
> There is a common theme all of us share, it is not what labels are
children have it is the struggles we go through
> with the schools and insurance companies. The system is not
working and the children are suffering. It is not really that the
> laws aren't there for these kids it is the schools don't follow
them and no one holds them accountable.
>
> To raise eyebrows and get exposure through the media, we need
massive emails. These emails should all be
> titled the same in the subject line and then we can give a brief
personal story about the struggles we all have gone through.
>
> Please let me know if you are interested and I will keep you
posted of the subject line title and to whom we will
> email.
>
> Although it looks like Oprah and/or Anderson Cooper.
>
> Brenda
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Need Mail bonding?
> Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
> http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Well, the system could be modified, but I would contend that the reason that
there is a cell phone in every hand, and a television in every home, and a
computer in every house is the result of the ingenuity and industriousness of
every American working within our free market economy that responds to the needs
of the consumer, rewards success, and punishes failure.

   Here is an example of the "responsiveness" of the current system.  I started a
parents support group for children with dyslexia.  I sent out 200 emails to
teachers and principals telling them the group existed and how we might be able
to help.  I received one reply.  Everyone else did not even bother to even
acknowledge they received the email.

   So, I'd ask, with 35% of children unable to read at a basic level nationally,
and with poor children even worse off, what would be your suggestion?  We've
tripled the amount of money spent per pupil with little success and now people
are advocating more hours in the school day!  Why would we leave children in
schools that underachieve for more hours?

   Right now, I need all the hours after school to give my children time to read
books that challenge them and tutoring in math because their school doesn't
teach them the cognitive concepts behind math.  I just didn't want them to be
part of the huge number of students in 8th grade that find they cannot handle
algebra.

   I don't know what state you live in, but if you start looking at the test
scores you might be surprised at the dismal state of things.  One promising
program is KIPP, the knowledge is power program.  You can take a look at
kipp.org.  They run charter schools in Houston and I've begun donating monthly
to one of them.

   David

don_nairn <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
           So with this system the academically gifted child will receive
$11,000 and the academically challenged child will receive exactly
the same.

The child born into wealth will get $11,000 and the child born into
poverty will receive exactly the same.

Clearly this system suggests that the child somehow chooses to be
born a certain way.

This is a very new medical concept for me I would be delighted if
you could share the science behind how children get to choose their
circumstances.

Silly me thought that babies were made by adults having sex clearly
it is more complicated than this.

While Milton Friedman may have been a great economist as a student
of economics it is well acknowledged that economics is very poor at
addressing social equity issues.

Regards

Don

--- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, David Smith <plexusmaster@...>
wrote:
>
> I would suggest Oprah since she has an interest in education. And
let me also suggest the following.
>
> The United States has one of the most innovative and excellent
medical systems and university systems in the world. But, the
public school system is lacking and unresponsive to the complaints
of the parents. Why the difference? There is no competitive
pressure from the consumer of the system.
>
> I am a doctor, so I usually make this analogy. Assume about on
average 40% of children struggle to read. Now, here's the analogy.
Lets say you came to see me as a doctor, and I told you only 6 out
of 10 of my patients lived after treatment. Then, I said, that you
could leave and see another doctor if you wanted, but I would keep
your money if you went elsewhere, and you'd have to pay an
additional amount out of pocket for the other doctor who had 9 out
of 10 patients surviving.
>
> This is why we should argue for vouchers. In my area,
approximately 11,000 dollars is being spent per pupil and 35-40% of
the children do not score above a basic level in reading and math.
What if the state gathered a portion of all property taxes and place
them in a fund, and distributed a voucher worth 11 thousand dollars
to each child. You could spend it on ANY public school, or
parochial school, or private school, or materials for home
schooling. THE PARENT is the only one in the system who truly
advocates ONLY for the child, so the parent should decide where the
child is sent.
>
> Don't you think schools would be more responsive to the needs of
the children if the parents not only could take the children out of
the school and send them to a better place, BUT THE SCHOOL WOULD
ALSO LOSE THE MONEY. Once the principal and teachers felt that
competitive pressure, they're would be a REASON to perform better
because their lives would begin to be effected, not just the lives
of the children and families trying to get a better education.
>
> So, if the petition is a mass emailing advocating a voucher
system for public education, sign me up!
>
> David Smith, MD
>
> PS By the way, Milton Friedman, the nobel prize award winning
economist was a great advocate of school vouchers because he knew
that it would encourage innovation through competition just like in
the rest of our economy.
>
> Brenda Beebe <beebe30@...> wrote:
> I am in the process of trying to see how much interest
would be in people from these groups participating
> in a mass email to the media.
>
> I currently have posted this question on two other email groups
and received a fairly positive large response.
>
> There is a common theme all of us share, it is not what labels are
children have it is the struggles we go through
> with the schools and insurance companies. The system is not
working and the children are suffering. It is not really that the
> laws aren't there for these kids it is the schools don't follow
them and no one holds them accountable.
>
> To raise eyebrows and get exposure through the media, we need
massive emails. These emails should all be
> titled the same in the subject line and then we can give a brief
personal story about the struggles we all have gone through.
>
> Please let me know if you are interested and I will keep you
posted of the subject line title and to whom we will
> email.
>
> Although it looks like Oprah and/or Anderson Cooper.
>
> Brenda
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Need Mail bonding?
> Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
> http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

So with this system the academically gifted child will receive
$11,000 and the academically challenged child will receive exactly
the same.

The child born into wealth will get $11,000 and the child born into
poverty will receive exactly the same.

Clearly this system suggests that the child somehow chooses to be
born a certain way.

This is a very new medical concept for me I would be delighted if
you could share the science behind how children get to choose their
circumstances.

Silly me thought that babies were made by adults having sex clearly
it is more complicated than this.

While Milton Friedman may have been a great economist as a student
of economics it is well acknowledged that economics is very poor at
addressing social equity issues.


Regards

Don


--- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, David Smith <plexusmaster@...>
wrote:
>
> I would suggest Oprah since she has an interest in education.  And
let me also suggest the following.
>
>   The United States has one of the most innovative and excellent
medical systems and university systems in the world.  But, the
public school system is lacking and unresponsive to the complaints
of the parents.  Why the difference?  There is no competitive
pressure from the consumer of the system.
>
>   I am a doctor, so I usually make this analogy.  Assume about on
average 40% of children struggle to read.  Now, here's the analogy.
Lets say you came to see me as a doctor, and I told you only 6 out
of 10 of my patients lived after treatment.  Then, I said, that you
could leave and see another doctor if you wanted, but I would keep
your money if you went elsewhere, and you'd have to pay an
additional amount out of pocket for the other doctor who had 9 out
of 10 patients surviving.
>
>   This is why we should argue for vouchers.  In my area,
approximately 11,000 dollars is being spent per pupil and 35-40% of
the children do not score above a basic level in reading and math.
What if the state gathered a portion of all property taxes and place
them in a fund, and distributed a voucher worth 11 thousand dollars
to each child.  You could spend it on ANY public school, or
parochial school, or private school, or materials for home
schooling.  THE PARENT is the only one in the system who truly
advocates ONLY for the child, so the parent should decide where the
child is sent.
>
>   Don't you think schools would be more responsive to the needs of
the children if the parents not only could take the children out of
the school and send them to a better place, BUT THE SCHOOL WOULD
ALSO LOSE THE MONEY.  Once the principal and teachers felt that
competitive pressure, they're would be a REASON to perform better
because their lives would begin to be effected, not just the lives
of the children and families trying to get a better education.
>
>   So, if the petition is a mass emailing advocating a voucher
system for public education, sign me up!
>
>   David Smith, MD
>
>   PS By the way, Milton Friedman, the nobel prize award winning
economist was a great advocate of school vouchers because he knew
that it would encourage innovation through competition just like in
the rest of our economy.
>
> Brenda Beebe <beebe30@...> wrote:
>           I am in the process of trying to see how much interest
would be in people from these groups participating
> in a mass email to the media.
>
> I currently have posted this question on two other email groups
and received a fairly positive large response.
>
> There is a common theme all of us share, it is not what labels are
children have it is the struggles we go through
> with the schools and insurance companies. The system is not
working and the children are suffering. It is not really that the
> laws aren't there for these kids it is the schools don't follow
them and no one holds them accountable.
>
> To raise eyebrows and get exposure through the media, we need
massive emails. These emails should all be
> titled the same in the subject line and then we can give a brief
personal story about the struggles we all have gone through.
>
> Please let me know if you are interested and I will keep you
posted of the subject line title and to whom we will
> email.
>
> Although it looks like Oprah and/or Anderson Cooper.
>
> Brenda
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Need Mail bonding?
> Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
> http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I would suggest Oprah since she has an interest in education.  And let me also
suggest the following.

   The United States has one of the most innovative and excellent medical systems
and university systems in the world.  But, the public school system is lacking
and unresponsive to the complaints of the parents.  Why the difference?  There
is no competitive pressure from the consumer of the system.

   I am a doctor, so I usually make this analogy.  Assume about on average 40% of
children struggle to read.  Now, here's the analogy.  Lets say you came to see
me as a doctor, and I told you only 6 out of 10 of my patients lived after
treatment.  Then, I said, that you could leave and see another doctor if you
wanted, but I would keep your money if you went elsewhere, and you'd have to pay
an additional amount out of pocket for the other doctor who had 9 out of 10
patients surviving.

   This is why we should argue for vouchers.  In my area, approximately 11,000
dollars is being spent per pupil and 35-40% of the children do not score above a
basic level in reading and math.  What if the state gathered a portion of all
property taxes and place them in a fund, and distributed a voucher worth 11
thousand dollars to each child.  You could spend it on ANY public school, or
parochial school, or private school, or materials for home schooling.  THE
PARENT is the only one in the system who truly advocates ONLY for the child, so
the parent should decide where the child is sent.

   Don't you think schools would be more responsive to the needs of the children
if the parents not only could take the children out of the school and send them
to a better place, BUT THE SCHOOL WOULD ALSO LOSE THE MONEY.  Once the principal
and teachers felt that competitive pressure, they're would be a REASON to
perform better because their lives would begin to be effected, not just the
lives of the children and families trying to get a better education.

   So, if the petition is a mass emailing advocating a voucher system for public
education, sign me up!

   David Smith, MD

   PS By the way, Milton Friedman, the nobel prize award winning economist was a
great advocate of school vouchers because he knew that it would encourage
innovation through competition just like in the rest of our economy.

Brenda Beebe <beebe30@...> wrote:
           I am in the process of trying to see how much interest would be in
people from these groups participating
in a mass email to the media.

I currently have posted this question on two other email groups and received a
fairly positive large response.

There is a common theme all of us share, it is not what labels are children have
it is the struggles we go through
with the schools and insurance companies. The system is not working and the
children are suffering. It is not really that the
laws aren't there for these kids it is the schools don't follow them and no one
holds them accountable.

To raise eyebrows and get exposure through the media, we need massive emails.
These emails should all be
titled the same in the subject line and then we can give a brief personal story
about the struggles we all have gone through.

Please let me know if you are interested and I will keep you posted of the
subject line title and to whom we will
email.

Although it looks like Oprah and/or Anderson Cooper.

Brenda

__________________________________________________________
Need Mail bonding?
Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
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I am in the process of trying to see how much interest would be in people from
these groups participating
in a mass email to the media.

I currently have posted this question on two other email groups and received a
fairly positive large response.

There is a common theme all of us share, it is not what labels are children have
it is the struggles we go through
with the schools and insurance companies. The system is not working and the
children are suffering. It is not really that the
laws aren't there for these kids it is the schools don't follow them and no one
holds them accountable.

To raise eyebrows and get exposure through the media, we need massive emails.
These emails should all be
titled the same in the subject line and then we can give a brief personal story
about the struggles we all have gone through.

Please let me know if you are interested and I will keep you posted of the
subject line title and to whom we will
email.

Although it looks like Oprah and/or Anderson Cooper.

Brenda




________________________________________________________________________________\
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Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
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A Literature Festival Celebrating The Literary Achievements of
Dyslexic Writers



The DysTheLexi Literature and Music Festival, which takes place
between March 20th and March 25th in London's Baron's Court Theatre,
at 28A Comeragh RD W14, is designed to show off the performance work
of a range of dyslexic artists: playwrights, musicians, poets and
writers. All will exhibit their work together in an eclectic audio and
visual extravaganza.

The festival ends on the 25th of March, Sunday Evening, when an
equally diverse range of non-dyslexic performers take to the stage.
Patrick Mackeown will appear in this line-up with a small group of
humorous poems from his latest collection.

Book Tickets: For Patrick Mackeown's performance on Sunday 25th March
2007 from 7.30PM onwards: Barons Court Theatre in West London. Please
call the box office on 020 8932 4747 or email ray_barnett@...



About the author:

Patrick Mackeown is the author of the highly recommended thriller
novel, The Expendability Doctrine
http://www.bookscape.co.uk/thrillers/doctrine.php

He was recently interviewed about his work by The Leicester Review of
Books,
http://leicesterreviewofbooks.wordpress.com/2007/03/04/interview-with-patrick-ma\
ckeown-author-of-the-expendability-doctrine/


His poetry collection entitled Hemispheric Verse 2007, can be found here:
http://www.bookscape.co.uk/shop/index.php

Hi Sue,

While this looks a lot like spam I will give you the benefit of the
doubt,

What research intuition are you involved with?

What ethics committee has approved this research?

While clearly guidelines on these things may vary from country to
country in Australia you have to include this information on any
requests for volunteers for research.

Sadly there are many people practicing pseudo science to just rip off
venerable people.

Regards

Don





--- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, "Sue Bennett" <autismcoach@...>
wrote:
>
> Greetings.  We are looking for participants of all ages to partcipate
> in a double-blind trial of the natural supplement Liquid Carnosine
> Plus in supporting symptoms of Dyslexia.  Participants would fill out
> an email questionnaire and then either receive a bottle of Carnosine
> or a placebo.  Two more questionnaires would be completed after
trying
> the supplement for 2 or 4 weeks.  After completing the last
> questionnaire, if you wish, you would receive an additional free
> bottle of the supplement, retailing for $32.  For more information on
> Liquid Carnosine Plus, please visit the www.autismcoach.com web site.
>

Greetings.  We are looking for participants of all ages to partcipate
in a double-blind trial of the natural supplement Liquid Carnosine
Plus in supporting symptoms of Dyslexia.  Participants would fill out
an email questionnaire and then either receive a bottle of Carnosine
or a placebo.  Two more questionnaires would be completed after trying
the supplement for 2 or 4 weeks.  After completing the last
questionnaire, if you wish, you would receive an additional free
bottle of the supplement, retailing for $32.  For more information on
Liquid Carnosine Plus, please visit the www.autismcoach.com web site.

I will try it with my son, he is 9 dyslexic and mild ADD. He stresses
really easily so I will let you know!

Anne Marie


carjug wrote:
>
> IF YOU GO TO www.geocities.com/carjug YOU WILL FIND SOME POEMS AND ----
> --
> STORIES WRITTEN WITH A COLOR CODE. ALL THE VOWEL SOUNDS HAVE A COLOR,
>
> BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. -IT AIN'T THAT HARD TO FIGURE OUT.-
>
> THE COLORS MIGHT HELP PEOPLE WITH READING TROUBLE READ. PLEASE GIVE
> IT A
>
> GOOD HARD LOOK FOR AT LEAST 15 MINUTES.
>
> THE WEBSITE IS FAR FROM FINISHED. I NEED SOME CRITICISM AND YOU NEED
>
> HELP WITH READING ISSUES. GIVE ME A SHOUT AND TELL ME IF IT TRIPS YOUR
>
> TRIGGER, (OR NOT).
>
> I am not selling anything!!!!!!!!!
> carjug@... <mailto:carjug%40yahoo.com>
>
>
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IF YOU GO TO www.geocities.com/carjug YOU WILL FIND SOME POEMS AND ----
--
STORIES WRITTEN WITH A COLOR CODE. ALL THE VOWEL SOUNDS HAVE A COLOR,

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. -IT AIN'T THAT HARD TO FIGURE OUT.-

   THE COLORS MIGHT HELP PEOPLE WITH READING TROUBLE READ. PLEASE GIVE
IT A

GOOD HARD LOOK FOR AT LEAST 15 MINUTES.

THE WEBSITE IS FAR FROM FINISHED. I NEED SOME CRITICISM AND YOU NEED

HELP WITH READING ISSUES. GIVE ME A SHOUT AND TELL ME IF IT TRIPS YOUR

TRIGGER, (OR NOT).

  I am not selling anything!!!!!!!!!
                                              carjug@...

Don't be foolled by this hoxe. I paid $40.00 too much for this prank.
I got more information from the public librery. If you write me, I'll
give you my copy. You can do better by not being foolled.

grandvillage2004@...

--- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, jasonalster2 <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> Help for dysgraphics and anyone who wants to learn the concepts
> behind being a creative painter and developing an artistic mode of
> seeing.
> Creative Painting For The Young Artist. Creativity through art for
> ADHD dygraphia and artist block.
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/9659025122/
>
> Also for dysgraphics or ADHD or anyone with not the best
handwriting.
> Anyone Can Improve Their Handwriting:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/9659025173/
>
> By Jason Alster MSc
>

Help for dysgraphics and anyone who wants to learn the concepts
behind being a creative painter and developing an artistic mode of
seeing.
Creative Painting For The Young Artist. Creativity through art for
ADHD dygraphia and artist block.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/9659025122/

Also for dysgraphics or ADHD or anyone with not the best handwriting.
Anyone Can Improve Their Handwriting:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/9659025173/

By Jason Alster MSc

I'm looking for highly qualified tutors in the Syracuse area who can
teach an OG based language program.  Also, does anyone know of a
public elementary school that does an exemplary job of identifying
dyslexic children and providing them with high quality remediation?
I'm running for school board, and I'd like to have an elementary
school to serve as a model for our district.  Thanks.

David

hello i homeschool my 9 yr old and he was tested positive for dyslexia. i have
to have alot of extra time in reading, but he does good in math, his writing is
not the best. i haven't tried the davis method yet, but i have looked in to it.
it sounds like a good program.  since i homeschool him i haven't decided if i'm
going to let him work through this problem and see how things go, (i have seen
improvement since i started homeschooling him) or go with a program.... good
luck meredithi would love to hear more from anyone who has had success with the
davis program or any tips on helping my son.--- On Fri 01/12, amshotwell <
amshot@... > wrote:From: amshotwell [mailto: amshot@...]To:
dyslexiaclub@...: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 02:31:49 -0000Subject:
[Dyslexia Club] Davis Method Feedback



Hi I am new to this group and looking for feedback on Davis method my8yo ds. I
had a consultation today that went very well but would liketo know what others
experiences are. Good or Bad. I am particularlyinterested in those who have had
success how did it change spelling,writing and math skills. I homeschool so if
anyone is a homeschooler Iwould particularly like feedback on how it may have
effected how youteach and your curriculum.Thanks for any help it will be most
appreciated,Anne Marie




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Hi I am new to this group and looking for feedback on Davis method my
8yo ds. I had a consultation today that went very well but would like
to know what others experiences are. Good or Bad. I am particularly
interested in those who have had success how did it change spelling,
writing and math skills. I homeschool so if anyone is a homeschooler I
would particularly like feedback on how it may have effected how you
teach and your curriculum.
Thanks for any help it will be most appreciated,
Anne Marie

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What I found helpful for my son was using yarn to make shapes of
letters.

Lurisa


--- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, "horseygrandma2000"
<Horseygrandma2000@...> wrote:
>

  > Hi all. I have been reading all your posts and I have to go back
in my
> mind and try to remember different things that made our struggle
so
> successful. I didn't see anyone write about sand trays and that
> surprised me. I was told that a dyslexic person cannot see in
abstract
> so that the brain has to be taught by actual feeling of a shape. I
> know this sounds simplistic and there may be much further research
> since Robyn was in school but this WORKED. It was not until she
had a
> sand try that she recognized any letters or numbers. Just to
remind
> you and I am not bragging Robyn is a school teacher with a degree
from
> a very good universty. and she did not recieve any extra help
while in
> college except added time for testing. She also made the Deans
list
> numerous times including her first semester. All I am trying to
tell
> you is that it can be done. Well thats all for now. Pattie
>

Hi all. I have been reading all your posts and I have to go back in my
mind and try to remember different things that made our struggle so
successful. I didn't see anyone write about sand trays and that
surprised me. I was told that a dyslexic person cannot see in abstract
so that the brain has to be taught by actual feeling of a shape. I
know this sounds simplistic and there may be much further research
since Robyn was in school but this WORKED. It was not until she had a
sand try that she recognized any letters or numbers. Just to remind
you and I am not bragging Robyn is a school teacher with a degree from
a very good universty. and she did not recieve any extra help while in
college except added time for testing. She also made the Deans list
numerous times including her first semester. All I am trying to tell
you is that it can be done. Well thats all for now. Pattie

Privately works too, I have been that route as well.  What kept
(keeps) me going during the tough times is thinking "Dyslexia is
just a difference in learning".  That is it.  It is finding the
difference that can be frustrating.  Good luck to you.

Lurisa

  --- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, Terri Newhouse
<newhouse_terri@...> wrote:
>
> I'm so sorry Lurisa, that you had to go through all of that for
your son.
>
>   I will look for something for her privately.
>
>   The teacher just emailed me and said the reason they didn't have
assessment til May is because they can't put her in the program mid-
year. They have to start her from the beginning of the school year.
>
>   Thanks!
>
> iwannabeageekchick <iwannabeageekchick@...> wrote:
>           Terri,
> I knew my son had a reading disability from the time he started to
> learn the alphabet. When my son was 5, I took him to CDRC (Child
> Development Research Center, which is run by Oregon Health
Sciences
> University). I learned of CDRC when I went to my primary care
> physician with my concerns about my sons lack of being able to
> recognize letters. I took him to CDRC on my own accord, and ran it
> through my insurance, paying the rest myself. Because of his age,
he
> was diagnosed with a "reading disability", and I was told to have
him
> retested in a year or two. It wasn't until he was almost 7 that he
> was officially diagnosed, at the same place, as being "severly
> dyslexic".
>
> During the almost two years that went by, I received absolutely no
> help from the school. They kept "band-aiding" his disability with
> whatever standardized reading program they wanted to try. As a
matter
> of fact, once he was officially diagnosed, to almost quote the
head of
> the special ed. department, "Thank you, Mrs. Carter, for bringing
it
> to our attention that we don't have an adequate reading program in
> place for children with dyslexia". What the hell? Dyslexia is at
the
> top of learning disabilities and he was telling me there is
nothing in
> place for these kids? Now to those of you that are going to tell
me
> that there is no "cure all" reading program for dyslexic's, don't
> bother, I know this.
>
> I did a research paper for an English class soon after my son was
> diagnosed. I learned enough that I know dyslexia fascinates me, as
> well as enough for me to be armed and dangerous.
>
> I felt we had the upper hand on my son because he was diagnosed so
> early; most children are diagnosed well past the age of 10. I
wanted
> to know what they were going to do with all this time we had. The
> bottom line is this.... More band-aids.
>
> So almost a year ago, I scheduled a meeting (IEP) with the head of
the
> Special Ed. department, principle, speech therapist as well as his
> classroom teacher. It basically consisted of me sitting there and
> listening to all the "wonderful" things they had done with my son
and
> his reading in the past couple of years, although the differences
were
> extremely subtle, they were there. I listened and listened and
> listened. Then came my turn. I told them that as a mom, it was
> obviously up to me to make sure my son received the education he
was
> entitled to and that his choices when he graduated from high
school
> were not going to be which gas station he pumps gas at. (Not to
> offend anyone who works at a gas station). I told them they had 6
> months to show me some monumental gains my son has made, or I was
> going to hire an attorney and file a class action lawsuit against
the
> school district. One for failing to diagnose my son, and two for
> failing to address his learning disability (dyslexia) with an
> appropriate reading program once he was diagnosed.
>
> Here we are today; My son is in the 5th grade, he is at a 3rd
grade
> reading level (which is amazing considering a few years ago we had
him
> at Sylvan Learning Center and he recognized 7 letters of the upper
and
> lower case alphabet). He has modifications made in his classroom
to
> help him with reading. For example, he excels at math, but can't
read
> the story problems, so either a volunteer is in the classroom with
> him, or there is an aid, or another student. He forgets the
letters
> when he tries to transfer them from an overhead to paper, so his
> teacher makes one out for him on paper ahead of time. Tests are
read
> to him, and he answers them. Next year, I will be looking at a
laptop
> for him.
>
> I can say this.... If you are able to, get your child diagnosed on
> your own. May is not only 6 months away, but it is also at the end
of
> the school year. So by the time they get her tested, and are able
to
> act upon it, you are probably looking at a month into the next
school
> year, which is September of 2007. A lot of time to waste. If you
> don't know of a place in your area, start with your primary care
> physician.
>
> Also, if your child is diagnosed with any learning disability, get
to
> know your childs "IEP", and your childs rights that go along with
it.
> That needs to become one of your closest friends. Whatever you do,
> don't go with the school just because they are the "educators" and
you
> think that they "know what is right". I truely think that had I
just
> let the school do what they wanted, my son would have been
illiterate
> when he graduated high school, if he graduated all.
>
> Good Luck to you,
> Lurisa
>
>
> --- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, "Terri Newhouse"
> <newhouse_terri@> wrote:
> >
> > My daughter is 5 and is in Kindergarten. She is having trouble
> learning
> > to read. She writes most of her letters backwards and has
trouble
> > focusing.
> > I went online this past weekend and she has most of the symptoms
for
> > dyslexia.
> > I emailed her school today about getting her tested, but the
> counselor
> > says that the testing is booked til May 2007.
> > Is there a way I can get her tested privately? If so, What type
of
> > doctor do I need to look for?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Terri
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In HIM,
> ~ Terri  ~
> Wife to Michael since 7/4/98
> Mama to Michael & Tara since 7/9/01
>
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>

I'm so sorry Lurisa, that you had to go through all of that for your son.

   I will look for something for her privately.

   The teacher just emailed me and said the reason they didn't have assessment
til May is because they can't put her in the program mid-year. They have to
start her from the beginning of the school year.

   Thanks!

iwannabeageekchick <iwannabeageekchick@...> wrote:
           Terri,
I knew my son had a reading disability from the time he started to
learn the alphabet. When my son was 5, I took him to CDRC (Child
Development Research Center, which is run by Oregon Health Sciences
University). I learned of CDRC when I went to my primary care
physician with my concerns about my sons lack of being able to
recognize letters. I took him to CDRC on my own accord, and ran it
through my insurance, paying the rest myself. Because of his age, he
was diagnosed with a "reading disability", and I was told to have him
retested in a year or two. It wasn't until he was almost 7 that he
was officially diagnosed, at the same place, as being "severly
dyslexic".

During the almost two years that went by, I received absolutely no
help from the school. They kept "band-aiding" his disability with
whatever standardized reading program they wanted to try. As a matter
of fact, once he was officially diagnosed, to almost quote the head of
the special ed. department, "Thank you, Mrs. Carter, for bringing it
to our attention that we don't have an adequate reading program in
place for children with dyslexia". What the hell? Dyslexia is at the
top of learning disabilities and he was telling me there is nothing in
place for these kids? Now to those of you that are going to tell me
that there is no "cure all" reading program for dyslexic's, don't
bother, I know this.

I did a research paper for an English class soon after my son was
diagnosed. I learned enough that I know dyslexia fascinates me, as
well as enough for me to be armed and dangerous.

I felt we had the upper hand on my son because he was diagnosed so
early; most children are diagnosed well past the age of 10. I wanted
to know what they were going to do with all this time we had. The
bottom line is this.... More band-aids.

So almost a year ago, I scheduled a meeting (IEP) with the head of the
Special Ed. department, principle, speech therapist as well as his
classroom teacher. It basically consisted of me sitting there and
listening to all the "wonderful" things they had done with my son and
his reading in the past couple of years, although the differences were
extremely subtle, they were there. I listened and listened and
listened. Then came my turn. I told them that as a mom, it was
obviously up to me to make sure my son received the education he was
entitled to and that his choices when he graduated from high school
were not going to be which gas station he pumps gas at. (Not to
offend anyone who works at a gas station). I told them they had 6
months to show me some monumental gains my son has made, or I was
going to hire an attorney and file a class action lawsuit against the
school district. One for failing to diagnose my son, and two for
failing to address his learning disability (dyslexia) with an
appropriate reading program once he was diagnosed.

Here we are today; My son is in the 5th grade, he is at a 3rd grade
reading level (which is amazing considering a few years ago we had him
at Sylvan Learning Center and he recognized 7 letters of the upper and
lower case alphabet). He has modifications made in his classroom to
help him with reading. For example, he excels at math, but can't read
the story problems, so either a volunteer is in the classroom with
him, or there is an aid, or another student. He forgets the letters
when he tries to transfer them from an overhead to paper, so his
teacher makes one out for him on paper ahead of time. Tests are read
to him, and he answers them. Next year, I will be looking at a laptop
for him.

I can say this.... If you are able to, get your child diagnosed on
your own. May is not only 6 months away, but it is also at the end of
the school year. So by the time they get her tested, and are able to
act upon it, you are probably looking at a month into the next school
year, which is September of 2007. A lot of time to waste. If you
don't know of a place in your area, start with your primary care
physician.

Also, if your child is diagnosed with any learning disability, get to
know your childs "IEP", and your childs rights that go along with it.
That needs to become one of your closest friends. Whatever you do,
don't go with the school just because they are the "educators" and you
think that they "know what is right". I truely think that had I just
let the school do what they wanted, my son would have been illiterate
when he graduated high school, if he graduated all.

Good Luck to you,
Lurisa


--- In dyslexiaclub@yahoogroups.com, "Terri Newhouse"
<newhouse_terri@...> wrote:
>
> My daughter is 5 and is in Kindergarten. She is having trouble
learning
> to read. She writes most of her letters backwards and has trouble
> focusing.
> I went online this past weekend and she has most of the symptoms for
> dyslexia.
> I emailed her school today about getting her tested, but the
counselor
> says that the testing is booked til May 2007.
> Is there a way I can get her tested privately? If so, What type of
> doctor do I need to look for?
>
> Thanks,
> Terri
>






In HIM,
~ Terri  ~
Wife to Michael since 7/4/98
Mama to Michael & Tara since 7/9/01

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