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RE: [diningwitharchetypes] Spread for LATS

Well, Bev, it looks to me like with the Three of Wands you would rather play (escape?) than avoid being present, although some believe that play can be a time when we are most present.  Anyway, you have the three birds of spirit in your sky (masculine/spiritual energy) and the three ships (feminine energy) sailing on the unconscious.  As a three, of course, it reflects the ending of one phase of your life, and the potential for a new beginning.  Watch those leaps!  Or maybe it's a leap of faith.  I call this card one of "maintaining your vision of the future."  I think it reflects the beginning of the clarification of our ideas.
 
Where would you rather not go.  The Moon.  Yes, indeed, some soul searching, shadow work.  Always scary.  Mary Greer says that The Moon card deals with the ongoing evolution of becoming what we can possibly be.always raises the question of the anxiety of dealing with our unconscious
 
What task avoiding.  Seer of wands.  Remember that the seer in this deck is a page in other decks.  Pages to my mind represent making a commitment, even though we don't really know what's ahead.  I liken them to the person who has committed to go to graduate school even thought he/she doesn't have any real idea about what that commitment and experience is going to involve.  In the World Spirit deck, seers represent young, delicate students who need nurturance and protection.  In The World Spirit card, the black huntress stands on a desert plain with her cheetah.  The adventure with this card is, once again that of recognizing and reconciling the shadow, the instinctual feminine within (dark female, instinctual feline) without allowing it to devour us.  In our shamanic work, we each receive an inner jaguar to protect us while we do our inner work, so there is a second meaning to this animal.  She needs to tame the instinct, at the same time, it will serve to protect her if she treats it honorably and does not try to tame it, but, rather, reconcile with it (honor it?).
 
Change need to adopt.  Seeker of Wands.  You certainly have a number of wands cards as you progress through this spread, and, finally, four out of five cards.  Well, first you have the Seer of Wands, needing to make a commitment.  then the Seeker of Wands, the equivalent of a Knight of Wands in other decks.  From my perspective knights never know as much as they think they do.  They have a little more learning than the page, and often their ego gets in the way of what they actually know.  This and the Three of Wands raise the question in my mind of whether or not you need to play more, or whether you simply "play" with ideas rather than working on them.
 
In each card where there are a human and an animal, the card addresses the issue of paradox, of holding the tension of the opposites between the conscious and the unconscious long enough for a third solution or ingith to arise.  The RWS Knight of Wands, like the RWS Page, wears an incomplete uroborous on his garment.  The card addresses the same alchemical process, yet he heads toward the left side of the card in the RWS deck, suggesting that a new spiritual awareness (the three pyramids) awaits him if he can resolve past issues, possibly those related from, or taught by, family experiences. 
 
In The World Spirit card, there is this ambivalence of position./thought/intent.  The burro faces toward the left, but the rider actually faces right in his casual position.  I have the sense of "do I want to do this or not."  Maybe you're a little too casual in your spiritual/food work (to me they are the same).
 
How do you need to redefine yourself.  The sybyl of wands.  Essentially the Queen of Wands.  Does your explanation that you already see yourself as like her, again prevent you from seeing ways in which you might redefine yourself?  Remember, the position asks how you need to re-imagine or re-define yourself.
 
I am struck by the first paragraph from the manual,  which describes her as putting energy into her family and friends, devoting herself to family and projects.  Again, the manual suggests that the Sybyl of Wands finds success even in difficult situations.  Perhaps you need to inwardly define yourself more like the Sibyl of Wands.  Even though you think you may be all that she represents, perhaps not quite.  For those of us who have an inner witch mother, this sybyl/queen,
and anyone like her, can serve as a mentor/model.  Do you know how to get out of your head and put your ideas into action?  Note that "her" cheetah has become a more domesticated cat!
 
Just some thoughts re my own reactions to the cards you drew, and take them as that (my own sense of the cards).  As always, our own visions are most true for us, and we all need to move from ideas into manifestation (pentacles).
 
Glad you liked the spread.
 
Sandra
 
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Subject: Re: [diningwitharchetypes] Spread for LATS

In a message dated 7/26/2005 11:36:58 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Sthomson1@... writes:
Lay out the five cards of this spread in a straight line.

Position 1 - How am I avoiding being present in my life?
using the World spirit tarot I have the three of wands for position one
Have always had a problem with the word ambition... would rather continue to march to my own drummer (so to speak)

Position 2 - Where would I rather not go, but need to go?
The Moon... oh dear a journey into my subconscious? some soul searching?  do I dare?

Position 3 - What task am I avoiding?
seer of wands...Not sure about this one

Position 4 - What change of behavior or attitude does this issue oblige
            me to adopt?
seeker of wands... well this might answer the above as well , and that is , any changes  or the idea of  not living in my head leaves me almost frozen on the spot.. I kid you not and sorry  if I sound like a kook.
 
I do like this spread tho, very much.

Position 5 - Based on the preceding four cards, how do I need to re-
imagine or redefine myself?
Sibyl of wands...to be honest  according to the interp for the Sibyl , I am  a lot like  her?
 
Bev


Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:38 pm

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As I said in an earlier posting to Bev, I've been re-reading James Hollis's Swamplands of the Soul, and have developed the following five-card spread for LATS...
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Sandra: Here is what I came up with: 1. How am I avoiding being present in my life? The Emperor: I used the Animals Divine Tarot, which shows a rather stormy ...
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Thanks for your feedback, Bonnie. The one thing I remember about Zeus, besides his power and authority, is how he was busy impregnating females, and I wonder...
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In a message dated 7/26/2005 11:36:58 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Sthomson1@... writes: Lay out the five cards of this spread in a straight line. ...
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Well, Bev, it looks to me like with the Three of Wands you would rather play (escape?) than avoid being present, although some believe that play can be a time...
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Sandra: As you can see, I don't always work with the decks that I "should" be working with. I knew that it would be politically correct to use the World Spirit...
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I didn't mean to imply that you were using an "incorrect" deck, Bonnie. Just some thoughts that came up for me from the deck we are using. For all of us, any...
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Bev: Interesting that your card for position four clarified your card for position three, just as mine did. I understand having the "safe place" of living in...
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In a message dated 7/28/2005 12:34:46 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, crystalgate@... writes: I understand having the "safe place" of living in your head. I...
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Sandra: You did not guilt me about the deck - I did that to myself. ;-) I had just finished reviewing the other deck, so I really did need to use it in real...
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In a message dated 7/28/2005 12:39:50 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Sthomson1@... writes: Maybe you're a little too casual in your spiritual/food work...
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Oh, my gosh. The thought of ginger bear withdrawal just sent my heart into clutch! I finally was able to do the spread for myself and will post a little...
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Sandra: Computers do, indeed, go into neurotic snits! ;-) Right now, mine will not bring through pics in e-mails (and it should), or the banners on the...
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In a message dated 7/29/2005 3:54:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, crystalgate@... writes: Computers do, indeed, go into neurotic snits! ;-) Right now, mine...
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Bev: My computer has been doing this for more than three weeks! LOL In a message dated 7/29/05 7:31:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ... ~ May Your Path Be Well...
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