THis thing is amazing, just graduated without even turning up a single day. Now
fully qualified in a BA and looking to apply for a raise! I'll keep you guys
posted, but if any of u interested in getting a BA or something as well
without having to actually go through all the leg work i highly recommend these
ppl 1 801 697-0461

Hallo,

I'm new member of this group. I'm web master of the site
http://www.depressionandfamilysupport.info , and i now meny things
about depression.

Dragan

I am now to be referred to as Dr. Jenkins haha ;) Took me about a month to get
fully accredited, but after ringing these ppl (801) 697 0461 they got me setup
at
an international uni and had me my BA in no time.

This thing is crazy! Thanks apple, and thanks
http://www.crackingcoconuts.com/tmiioj for linking me up with one for no cost.
Highly        recommended.

Wow, what a piece of tech gear this ipod player is. Can't believe I got it at no
cost, thanks to a link my friend gave me. Anyway, since i had the good fortune
of not havin to pay i thought id share with u guys. Check this thing out
http://www.blahwhatever.com/yuaky thats where i got mine.

Yeahaw I finally got my dgree! I don't think words can do justice to how    
excited I am right now. What's even better     is that at most it took me around
a month to get fully setup and sorted, now that's it - im done! I didn't even
have to turn up to any classes, just filled out a bit of paperwork and phoned
these guys 1 801 697 0461 and they set up perfectly! Highly recommended.

I am now to be referred to as Dr. Jenkins haha ;) Took me about a month to get 
fully accredited, but after ringing these ppl 801 697-0461 they got me setup at
an international uni and had me        my BA in no time.

ive got literally no        'game' as they say, haha, so have alot of trouble in
the clubs tryin to pickup. im sure there is a few of u'se here just like that.
so anyway, when i found this thing http://www.dontwaitnow.info/ankt i was
shocked, actually amazed that it was as good as it is. if u've got no game,
checkout this place, it's like a meat market, all the finest!

found this cool place, actually, not even sure I want to share my secret source
hehe. But you know what, Im a generous guy so i guess ill help you out, plenty
of potential partners on there to share around i guess. anyway
http://rnhy.dreamfix.info/lppx is the spot im talking about. ive only been on
there bout a week or two, already met up with two ppl and talked to tonns of
hotties on webcameras. heap of fun.

This message is about Human beings, Democracy, UNHCR, Refugees, The Iraqis,
Islam, Kurds, Human rights, Respect, Money, Donations, Angelina Jolie,
Pavarotti, Giorgio Armani, Donors, Peace, History, Campaigns and about you if
you care about these words.

Hi there,

I am SAM, an Iraqi refugee living in Lebanon at the moment; I have spent the
last 10 years of my life as a refugee registered with the UNHCR in Beirut. The
last 4 years, I have spent as an activist for peace and human rights (especially
refugees and asylum seekers) on the Internet; I'm also books author and ebooks
publisher. I have launched many campaigns to improve our situation as refugees
in Lebanon and hopefully bring more understanding to our problems worldwide. I
helped make many changes and improvements at the UNHCR office in Beirut; I used
the Internet as the field for my activities (you can read more about that in my
free ebook 'MY CAMPAIGNS'). All my ebooks are free and could be download from my
sites.

This is my newest campaign, it's about the illegal and humiliating actions of
the UNHCR, who using photos of refugees as banners and human-buttons to collect
money. This is an abuse of the dignity and humanity of the refugees and must
stop immediately and a clear public apology present by The United Nations High
Commissioner for Refugees. My friends, I am talking about the pictures you can
see here: http://unhcr.beplaced.com
  Where you can read the rest of this message as web page.

Also you can read my new campaign 'Urgent, we need smile' here:
http://freeweb.jamieweb.com/unhcrlebanon


For more info about UNHCR and life of refugees you can read my free ebooks. I
invite you as fellow humans and members of the world community to support my
campaign by reading my article on my site and see the human-buttons. The
campaign is to support and improve the UNHCR http://www.unhcr.ch especially
after the last scandals in the UN and UNHCR, just for example: The refugees
allege that UNHCR staff is selling most of the food items they are supposed to
be supplied.
"They aren't supplying sufficient food to us because they sell most of the food
items," they allege: http://allafrica.com/stories/200503140214.html

  Here is another example: Burmese Refugees Withdraw Protest Against UNHCR 
http://www.mizzima.com/archives/news-in-2005/news-in-april/12-April05-22.htm

"We make demonstration and fast because the UNHCR office in Cairo did nothing
for our problem..." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4440730.stm

Together we will build better world.

You could reach me fast via this form: http://unhcrlebanon.9cy.com/email_me.htm
  and if you like to know more about me, you can google for my name 'osam
altaee'.

Thanks
THE TRUTH WARRIOR
http://www.free-webster.com/users/lebanon

I know some friends already who have met a few nice  honeys off of this kind of
stuff (here is the place they use: http://www.meetinyourlocalzip.info/plnj , but
what do you       think? I think it is mad cool from what I saw at my friend’s
house, and am thinking of signing up later today. Basically it's a regular
personalssite, but with an instant message and Webcams system built in.
Basically you join their chat-room on their site it gives you a link to those
people online in the chat-room, their location, their picture, etc and at one
click you can start chatting to them over Webcam (even if you don't have one).
Pretty nifty stuff I think!

Thought I should pass on my knowledge to all you guys (and gals) on here. I know
like heaps of men I am pretty shy when   it comes to going up to someone. I've
tried a few different places (clubs, bars, etc) but never seem to have too much
luck. Anyway, a couple of weeks ago I joined up to
http://www.luversmeeting.info/pwjip and I have to say I am already getting
excited. I was beginning to think I'd end up being alone for ever, but already
been talking to a few interestedladies on there. Anyway, if you're like me it
comes highly recommended!

Thought I should pass on my knowledge to all you guys (and gals) on here. I know
like heaps of men I am pretty shy when it comes to going up to someone. I've
tried a few different places (clubs, bars, etc) but never seem to have too much
luck. Anyway, a couple of weeks ago I joined up to
http://www.localmatch.info/irrf and I have to say I am already getting excited.
I was beginning to think I'd end up being alone for ever, but already been
talking to a few interestedladies on there. Anyway, if you're like me it comes
highly recommended!

Met my fiance here, hehe. Thought I should share it with any other guys who are
worried up winding up alone like I was. Check it out
http://www.lovesearcher.info/omox

Lisa <emmysmom28@...> wrote:
Hello, I am seeking support as I am a 34-year-old woman, pregnant and
engaged to a man who is seriously depressed.  He's lost his job
because he doesn't get out of bed and I am forced to care for our
daughter, work full time, and deal with the stress of life and
finances all on my own.  He's in therapy but that doesn't seem to be
helping much.  He started medication a couple of days ago but that
takes 4 weeks to really kick in.  In the meantime, I go from trying
to be supportive to wanting to pull my hair out of my head.  It
doesn't help that our 8-year-old daughter is wondering why her Dad
won't go play with her and why we're fighting.  I can't seem to find
much support in my community or on the web.  Any advice?  Help!





---------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links

    To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/depressionfamilysupport/

    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
depressionfamilysupport-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello, I am seeking support as I am a 34-year-old woman, pregnant and
engaged to a man who is seriously depressed.  He's lost his job
because he doesn't get out of bed and I am forced to care for our
daughter, work full time, and deal with the stress of life and
finances all on my own.  He's in therapy but that doesn't seem to be
helping much.  He started medication a couple of days ago but that
takes 4 weeks to really kick in.  In the meantime, I go from trying
to be supportive to wanting to pull my hair out of my head.  It
doesn't help that our 8-year-old daughter is wondering why her Dad
won't go play with her and why we're fighting.  I can't seem to find
much support in my community or on the web.  Any advice?  Help!

Hi, I am new to this website and have signed up in order to possibly
find out how best to help my mother with Bipolar Disorder.  I am only
22 years old and my mother has had this condition since I was 2.  I
have never really had any help with how best to help her and she
doesnt
like me to talk to her doctors or anyone else in the family about how
to cope.  I am trying very hard to understand what she goes through
but
I dont know how best to deal with things.  It seems like I cant do
anything right and she beleives her doctors view's more than her
families, even though I am the first to notice when she starts to get
down.  Any help and advice I can get is a bonus.

Hi. I just signed up to this group after reading a few of the
postings. My story is not very different from the ones I have read.

I have been married to a wonderful woman for four years (next
Wednesday in our anniversary). We have two beautiful children
together. We have had some rough times in our marraige, but I always
hold on to the good times. In the past year, things have gotten
worse. Heather quit her job to be a stay-at-home mother. She has
become easily aggitated and accused me of very strange actions.
Everything from abuse to having an affair. I have tried to be
reasonable with her and calm her down, but nothing has worked. I
feel like I'm walking on eggshells around her, never knowing what's
going to set her off. Three months ago, I stepped out of the shower
to an empty house. She took the dog, cat and kids and ran away.
Apparently, her suitcases were already packed. She has since filed
for divorce.

We have ALMOST reconciled several times. Everytime we make progress,
she suddenly recalls some terrible thing that I did and can't
forgive me. But these terrible things never happened! I thought I
was losing my mind trying to reason with her.

Then I read "70 Signs of Depression" by Marlee Fisher. I couldn't
believe how well she was describing my exact situation. I have this
book in electronic PDF form if anyone is interested. I am convinced
that my wife is bipolar. I don't know what to do. She denies that
she has a problem, and will hardly talk to me at all. I don't fear
for my children yet, as she is still blaming me for all of her
problems. If this divorce goes through, I hate to think of how she
will treat them as they grow up and spread their wings. Regardless,
I love Heather very much and don't want to see this divorce go
forward. It will not solve her problems.

For the longest time, it felt like nobody knew what I was going
through. Now our families seem split between people who have "seen
it" and others who refuse to believe it. It's causing a lot of
stress for everyone. How do I simultaneously try to help her while
protecting myself from getting "taken to the cleaners" in divorce
court? My head tells me give up on her, but my heart won't let me.

Hey people! I am pretty new to the group and I don't mean to be annoying, but
I wanted to let all of you know I finally got my webcam back. It took a while
to repair, but everything is running great now, and the picture is crystal
clear. The repair guy also told me that he added some new software to allow
me to talk live to those watching me! So if any of you guys want to chat
come try it out on my new homepage :)

http://www.amateurhope.com/WetnWaitin18/




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi
I just read your message and it brought tears to my eyes... I had no
idea there were other people feeling the exact (and i mean EXACT!)
feelings I've been experiencing. I, too, am involved with the most
wonderful man I've ever known. We've been together just over a year
and a half, which has, like you, been full of ups and downs. The
things you wrote about  sounded as though I had written them myself.
I have been learning everything I can about manic-depression, but
have not yet found what I've needed to know being the 'significant
other'. My special man proposed to me at the end of August, and now,
as you so eloquently phrased it... I have the plague! (great
description!!). I hope we can find some support or comfort in knowing
we are not to blame, despite the occasional (often?) thoughts
of "what have I done this time?". I, too, wonder about the future
with this illness...am I strong enough to handle these episodes for
the rest of my life? I am 38, divorced with two kids, living in
another city from him (an hour and a half away).
  Yet despite the aggressive verbal onslaughts, emotional distance,
and angry outbursts during the few days every 8 weeks or so...the
rest of the time we share  together is like every girl's dream
romance.

I do hope to hear from you if you've got some time to write. Tonight
I'm feeling rather lost and confused. It's Thanksgiving weekend and
he does not wish to see me... but then again, that could change by
tomorrow morning. UGH the uncertainty of it is frustrating
sometimes...
Take care,
Tracy

Hi
I'm new here, and am hoping to find the support I need to help me
help my fiance. He has been manic-depressive for many many years,
though I've only been around just over a year and a half. I love him
more than I've loved anyone...it's overall an incredibly wonderful
relationship. I have done a fair bit of research into understanding
manic-depression but have not been able to find what I need to know
about being a helpful support person to him. I have not yet been able
to recognize certain 'signs' of mania or depression in him and get
blind-sided when it hits. I end up saying/doing (allegedly, or so he
says) all the wrong things which escalates the problem. After a
couple of days it is all over and we're back on track. Is this the
way my future is headed forever with him? Are there such things
as 'appropriate' ways to deal with his episodes to avoid things
crashing (as has occurred just last night)? It seems to escalate into
being my fault for not having done something... or having done
something incorrectly.

I want to help and support him, I want to understand more about what
I 'should' or 'should not' do. I do understand he is not 'himself'
when he lashes out as he does during these 'episodes'; I just do not
know what better ways there are to handle them. He is an incredible
man, I've never known anyone as wonderful as he is (when he's not in
the throws of whatever-it-is he's currently in).

I apologize for the length of this posting, I'm at a loss and hoping
someone out there will have some words of support, encouragement,
suggestions, or advice.

Thanks, so very much, for anything you might have to offer.

"Traccose"

i am new at this.  i have bi-polar.  have been diagnosed since the
age of 17.  i am looking for someone with similar experiences with
the illness that i can talk to.  i come from a small town where "bi-
polar" is something that nobody tries to understand.  they hear that
u have the illness and either stay far away from u or they walk on
eggshells around u.  i am married, have two children.  i would
really just like to know how everyone else deals with the trials and
tribulations of everyday living and leading a "normal" life.

Good morning everyone. New here and wanted to say
Hi and introduce myself.<br><br>I'm Beverly, 42, and
I've been in love the past 3 years with the man of my
dreams, Richard, 50. The sweetest man in the world and
everything I always wanted. Except he has depression. Our
relationship has been literally filled with ups and downs,
mostly on his part. One moment I can't beat him off of
me, we have great times and really enjoy each other's
company. The next it's as if I have the plague and I can
hardly get him to talk. Off and on for three years we
talked about getting married and having a life together.
Then out of the blue the first of July he told me had
no intention of ever marrying me but wanted to
continue to see me. My birthday came around in October and
he loved me again. Thanksgiving I had the plague.
Christmas he bought me a very expensive gold chain that I
wear all the time to feel close to him, and now I have
the plague again. I adore him and love him with all
my heart. I've read tons on depression and I know
most of the problems we have are due to that. But then
sometimes I wonder if it's me. We fit so well together and
have such a great relationship, but sometimes when I
feel down and need someone he's the last person I feel
I can go to because I don't want to unload anything
on him. Is this the thing to do, or am I protecting
him too much? Is there any hope for our future? I
can't imagine my life without him, but I'm having a
hard time believing it will ever be better.

Well first of I am new here. And read all
messages thus far. and seems some of you including my self
need professional help. How ever in my case where I
live in such a small town they offer very little. But
I have yet to give up. my next place to turn is to
local church maybe there I can get a chat group
together.. just taling helps. one problem I am haveing is I
am a widower, single and parent of 2 young teens,
who are going thru puberty and as well as grief from
loosing mom. so at least you all are there for these
Individuels. I have no support at all.. I could have.. but
that would mean moving back up to Minnesota.
Burrrrrrrrrr.. not my idea of fun.. I did spend most of adult
life there married to my wife. but we moved to sunny
Az and a yr later she died on me.... any ways.. life
goes on but so damn hard to do alone and trust me no
one wants to be involved with some one who is
depredded.. I mean its one thing being married to them and
then it happens.. but not a good foundation to build
upon.<br> when I came across this title I was hopeing for a
large gathering in this group.. as i know from
experience when one if feeling down you don't want to go out
in public and see 100 others in same boat as were
all in.. so be thankful and never give up hope and if
all else fails seek professional help.. this is a
serious desease and can go bad with out notice... I. E.
suiside or worse.<br> Sorry about caps and punctuations..
not very good at typing or spelling.

I'm married to a man who has been diaganosed with
severe depression. THere have been many suicide
attempts, hosptial stays, therapy, and medication. It has
been very hard for us to remain together. If anyone
has had similar experience, please feel free to email
or instant message me. Thanks so much.

It looks like nobody has been around this club
for quite a while but I thought I'd give it a try
anyway.<br><br>I've been married to a wonderful man for just over a
year (new years eve was our anniversary). Just before
Thanksgiving, something in him snapped and he's now a totally
different person. He came out of it for a while through the
holidays, but it is back with a vengence now. <br><br>I've
never seen anything like this before, and as much as I
want to stick through it all, and find my way back to
the man I love, I don't know how much more I can
take. <br><br>I'd love some of the links that you
mentioned in an earlier post. I've found a local support
group for family members but haven't been to it yet. It
only meets two days a month. It's so difficult to get
through one day at a time right now, I don't think I can
wait til tomorrow at times, so two weeks from now
seems like an eternity. I'm sure it doesn't help that
we live about two hours away from any of my family
and friends. <br><br>I'm just feeling so isolated and
unwelcome in my own home now. What else can I do to feel
better while waiting this out?<br><br>He is seeing a
psychologist, but refuses to let me talk to her, and I don't
thinks he's been honest with her either. He's seen her 3
times thus far, and there's been no talk whatsoever
about medication.<br><br>Sorry to ramble on and on, but
I'd really appreciate any help.

Dave,<br><br>Thanks so much for responding! It’s
nice to have a place to turn to. This relationship has
certainly been a rough ride! My boyfriend does know that
he’s depressed and sometimes seems to understand that
it’s a chemical problem. Miraculously, he started
anti-depressants a month ago. So far no difference. When he went
back for the refill, they added another drug. I’m
really hoping that the drugs help him. <br><br>He
definitely suffers from cognitive distortions (black and
white thinking, jumping to conclusions, etc). He’s been
trying to monitor his thoughts but again it’s a slow
process to change. <br><br>It’s been so hard for me
because I was convinced early on that I could help just
by showing him all the fun things in life and giving
him all the tools I had, the books I read, the things
I tried…but he’s an obstinate person. Depression is
so hard to deal with in the context of a
relationship because all the rules are different. When he’s
feeling low I have to put my need for support on hold. I
feel like I always have to be the strong one because I
have to be there to take care of = encourage,
reassure, him. I’ve done it for a long time but I’m getting
more impatient with his self-centered view of the
world. I say that not without understanding, because
I’ve been there myself. Now that I’m through it, I can
see how self-involved depression is, everything about
your own world is so exaggerated, including the
importance of your own problems. <br><br>It’s a very
difficult place to be and it’s been exacerbated lately
because I’ve had several men hitting on me out of
nowhere. It’s very tempting to chase the easy, good times
I could have instead of the sometimes grueling and
painful dreariness of being with someone who is so
cynical and negative. <br><br>Yesterday my boyfriend’s
car broke down and the mechanic couldn’t reproduce
the problem to fix it = now the car is unreliable. I
thought, “Yes, finally, he’ll go get a job so he can buy a
new car.” No such luck. Sigh. What a tragedy to waste
so many precious hours and days and weeks and months
eschewing the beauty and goodness in the world.<br><br>I
have a break from him this weekend. I’ll just try to
use this time to heal myself and take care of me.
<br><br>Thanks for your support! It’s very comforting to finally
be able to vent in a place where other people know
what I’m dealing with!<br><br>Crys

Dear Crys, I really feel for you! It is very
difficult, probably even more so for family members and
loved ones of those suffering from depression. My first
question for you is: does this person you are dating know
and aware that he is seriously depressed? If he is in
denile or not really aware that he has a chemical
problem, he may take your help and support the wrong way.
It's best to approach this sort of person very slowly
and creatively to show what is going on. Perhaps
mimic their behavior and words trying to pull things
out of the "dark whole." Either way, try showing this
person how fun life can be. Force him to get out more
and try new things. He may find that with your
support and admiration he is really missing out in life.
Do be very supportive and caring with the drug
therapy he may be recieving...this is probably his best
route at this point. The drugs out there now are very
effective at treating his ailment, however, they can be
slow in acting and he may need to try others. I also
would suggest to you to give him more information about
depression and also get more information for yourself. There
are many support groups out there and counselors for
you and him to see. The internet alone is chalked
full of wonderful stuff, at least for his sake, to
realize what he is going through is very real, very okay
and very treatable. <br><br>Please hang in there and
remember to always show your support because that is most
important. Lastly, have as much patience as you can, even
though you are getting tired of it...for the path to
health is not easy or quick. <br><br>Also, do let me
know if you need some good links on the internet or
more information, I'd be glad to get you
some!<br><br>Sincerely, Dave.

I need help!I'm dating someone who is depressed
and I'm running out of patience with the depression
and with him. I'm desperate for help. Here's the
background:<br><br>The guy I'm dating has been my been my best friend
for a long time. When we started dating over a year
ago, I knew that he was depressed. He used to be a
programmer but decided that there must be more to life than
what the lifeless daily grind he was living, so he
quit. He hasn't worked in four years now and has no
idea what he wants to do, he doesn't like anyone or
anything, he's very cynical, he has no hobbies and no
interests. Despite the depression however, there is so much
that is great about him. I know. I know what you're
thinking but love is a wonderful, blinding
thing.<br><br>I'm really lost. How do other people deal with this?
How do you deal with the frustrations of wanting
someone to stop feeling sorry for themselves and being so
inward focused? How can you be there, like you're
supposed to, and yet not be frustrated that yet another
night is ruined and spent watching him sulk. How can
you be there and yet protect yourself without feeling
cold and heartless? I've been on his side of the
depression so I don't feel like I'm insensitive to what he's
going through. However, being on this side is really a
struggle too, especially since I have no power.<br><br>The
worst part is that I fear that it will never, ever,
ever change. He finally started taking some
anti-depressants and it's my last hope. My gut tells me that he's
stubborn enough that he'll produce whatever chemicals he
can to counteract the good ones.<br><br>Has anyone
else experienced this? What did you do? How are you
handling it?<br><br>I realize that this is an incomplete
picture but I would really appreciate any insights you
have. The depression I went through wasn't so tenacious
and was more situational. His is so encompassing and
long-lasting! Please help!<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Crys

Welcome, This is the Yahoo! Message Board for Depression Family Support
community.