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Ellie,
I fully understand that its during times of Excitatory Nervous Symtons that I need to Redirect anger at the people who have hurt my in the past ?

How do I turn these symptons into the ANGER before I re-direct. For example, I sometimes get depressed or nervous but I don't feel anger so I can't re-direct.

How do I turn the depression or anxiety into ANGER ?

I can see how punching a pillow or something else will release anger but how do I turn these Excitatory symptoms into Anger.  P.
 
The excitatory symptoms occur when the neurons eject noradrenaline during detox crises, but they also eject adrenaline, (these are endogenous substances which are toxic when in excess, and they are in excess due to suppressing anger)  Both are released during the symptoms, which are detox crises. Noradrenaline is the neurotransmitter responsible for the expressison of anger. Adrenaline causes neurotic fear. So when you feel fear, then you will know anger is right behind it, and needs to be released and redirected. Try to read the scientific paper, at least the Abstract. It will help you understand the process.
 
It's about recognizing and telling yourself in your mind that the excitatory nervous symptoms are detox crises for the purpose of releasing repressed anger. Mentally tell yourself it's an opportunity to redirect anger. If you feel fear tell yourself mentally that there is underlying anger, and just do some pounding on a bed and mentally redirect anger. Just get mad at past abusers. See the ways in the Welcome message. If you feel shame or low self esteem recognize this as anger turned inward and get mad at your parents.. It's your parents voices still in your head putting you down. Tell them to "shut up!" when you feel shame or guilt. It's harder with depression, and if you don't feel like pounding, put a sign on the refrig...."It will lift." It will lift the next time you have a detox crisis and redirect anger. Ellie
 
Yes I have found that if I simply act angry when I notice the nervous symtoms then these nervous symptoms automatically turn into anger. The real trick is simply been alert to recognise these symptoms at the first sign.
 
One other questions I have. From reading all the material on the website, it suggests that cutting out external stimulants that trigger nervous symtoms (such as alocohol or certain foods) can increase recovery time if they are stopped before self-help therapy begins more than if they are stopped during self-help therapy. I know that pysically, junk foods and alchol are bad for your body but if these substances trigger the nervous symtoms shouldn't continuing to take these substances (until you are through the self help therapy) actually help to increase recovery time.
 
I'm by no means saying its a good idea to get drunk everyday and eat nothing but beef burgers and chips but if they help trigger more nervous symtoms, in a way if you control what you do can't they actually help you. In the long term your not going to get addicted to thses substances because everyday your realesing anger which in turn stops you craving such things anyway.
 
Or to simply cut a long story, rather than simply waiting for symtoms to arise (which you may miss and waste time) are there ways to stimulate these nervous symtoms to happen more often ?
P.
 
I can't  help but smile, and it is a paradox, the stimulants do trigger detox crises. Read the section Addictions in the scientific paper. BUT external stimulants like alcohol, which are toxic, add to the endogenous toxins, so in the long run it will take much longer to detox both endogenous and exogenous toxins. If you do go ahead and have the drink, be sure not to feel guilty about it. Turn any guilt into anger, tell those voices in your head, "It's your damn fault I want to drink." Same for sedating foods like bread, pasta, sugar. etc. Changing to mostly raw foods will better trigger detox crises and in the end you will have less detoxing to do. Your body will say, "Aha, here is something I need, I'll get rid of the junk food you fed me," and this will increase symptoms, which are always detox crises. You may have fever, accute sore throat, and especially headaches. Remember symptoms are healing events and not to be avoided or suppressed.
 
It's better to stimulate the nervous system into a detox crisis with pschological stimulation, eg. watch a movie that might be about your past. I watched a movie about a woman who was drugged and molested by her psychiatrist, and it triggered detox crises for me, anger at the psychiatrists who abused me over the years with ECT, drugs, even sex. I used that to do some redirecting to past doctors. I watched The Waltons, with the moralistic mother and grandmother, and did some redirecting to my mother and grandmother, who were just like them.
 
Ellie
 



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