FUNDAMENTALISM KILLS: INTOLERANCE BEGAN WITH THE CATHOLIC COUNCIL OF
NICEA http://www.salvationscience.com/

Once again, as always, an opponent has "circled his wagons", firing
psychological "bullets" of Transferral of Guilt at us Indians. This
takes us entirely off-topic, and into "the pot calling the kettle
black" guilt trips again. Read here about the "tolerance" of the
Catholic Church for other approaches to the Divinity. My answer to
Walker Boh is: I have already been denounced from the church steeple
of a Catholic Church and asked to leave a mass - not because I had
said anything to anyone, but because the dinks had already heard the
global rumors of this non-sectarian Swami and his Message of
Salvation from Suffering. Do you have anything positive to offer, or
just more whining?

Swamiji is only one of many who are superior to such Christ-killers.
Nevertheless, the Father has given you power to make big mistakes.
My only complaint is when you try to drag others into the trap of
your own blind, slanderous deceptions. Look at the bright side:
Salvation from Suffering is now offered. Remember the warning of
Jesus: "Remember Lot's wife". Don't look back at your own past
guilt, lest ye be frozen in your tracks and unable to progress
forward, like a "pillar of salt", dead and petrified in non-
repentance, trying to transfer your guilt onto innocent scapegoats,
instead of correcting your mistakes. No more "sacrificial lambs"
to "cover your tracks" or hide your sins. Jai Om. - Sw. Tantrasangha

Jun 24, 2004
Vatican paranoia summit
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=531952
By Peter Popham in Rome, 16 June 2004

Catholics from more than 25 countries are in Rome this week to hammer
out a strategy for combating the threat posed to Christianity by "New
Age" religions and fads.

"Astrologers believe that the Age of Pisces - known to them as the
Christian age - is drawing to a close," explained an exhaustive
report on the New Age produced by the Catholic church last year. And
as priests around the world watch their congregations dwindle through
boredom or plain disbelief, the Church believes that the moment has
come to FIGHT back.

Monsignor Peter Fleetwood, one of the authors of the report, said
those at the closed-door conference include priests and lay people
from Latin America "worried that they can be pushed out by something
that has come from ABROAD", and from ASIA where "a lot of
traditional religions are reviving".

But for Fleetwood the greatest challenge may be in England and North
America, "where the New Age began … and where it has become such a
part of everyday life that we don't notice it". That makes it harder
to ATTACK, he says: "Where one sees a threat, it's easier to BATTLE
it."

This is an ENEMY with dozens of heads: the version of the JEWISH
kabbalah espoused by Madonna, the Enneagram personality-reading cult,
ANCIENT EGYPTIAN occult practices, SUFISM, the lore of the Druids,
Celtic Christianity, medieval ALCHEMY, Renaissance HERMETICISM,
YOGA, Zen BUDDHISM, and MANY MORE.

The report acknowledges the strength of the ENEMY Within: "In Western
culture in particular, the appeal of `alternative' approaches to
spirituality is very strong …. New forms of psychological affirmation
of the individual have become very popular among Catholics."

Under the liberal dispensation of Pope John XXIII and the Second
Vatican Council, Catholic missionaries explored the religious
traditions of lands where in the past their task would have been
restricted to converting the heathen.

In Japan, one Jesuit missionary became a Zen Buddhist roshi
("master"). He in fact became a reverse missionary, implanting Zen
Buddhist ideas and practice in Catholic groups in Germany and
elsewhere, where they continue to thrive.

But Pope John Paul II's church is far less tolerant about practices
that the Pope's "enforcer of the faith", Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger
(THE PRESENT POPE), dismissed as "spiritual auto-eroticism
(TANTRA?)".

New Age is getting a grip on Christians because many are failing to
find authentic spirituality in the Church. They are failing to find,
as the report put it, "the importance of man's spiritual dimension
and its integration with the whole of life, the search for life's
meaning, the link between human beings and the rest of creation, the
desire for personal and social transformation, and the rejection of a
rationalistic and materialistic view of humanity."

While one of the two "pontifical councils" involved in taking up the
challenge is that for "inter-religious dialogue", suggesting that the
NEW AGERS be dealt with on a similar footing to MUSLIMS, JEWS, and
indeed ANGLICANS(!), the Pope himself appears to see the issue as a
simple matter of right and wrong.

"We cannot delude ourselves," he says, that "this return of ancient
GNOSTIC ideas" "will lead toward a renewal of religion." It is, he
said, "a way of distorting His Word … in distinct, if not declared,
CONFLICT with all that is essentially Christian".

The time for a decisive battle is clearly fast approaching. And the
message to faithful in the report is plain: quit "shopping around in
the world's fair of religious proposals." (IN OTHER WORDS, GIVE UP
YOUR FREEDOM TO SEARCH FOR TRUTH, AND RETURN TO THE SLAVERY OF A
HERESY FOR MONEY AND POWER! TOO IGNORANT TO REASON, THEIR OBSESSION
IS ONLY TO CONTINUE TO OWN YOU, REGARDLESS OF THE CRIMES THEY MUST
COMMIT TO ENSLAVE YOU TO THEIR BLASPHEMY. BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION,
THEY ARE AGAINST EVERYTHING NOT CATHOLIC, INCLUDING ALCHEMY,
HERMETICISM, AND EVEN THE ORIGINAL GNOSTIC CHRISTIANITY OF OUR LORD
JESUS CHRIST. THEY HAVE EVEN DENOUNCED THE NAG HAMMADI GOSPELS! SO,
WAKE UP NOW, BECAUSE THE "WOLVES IN LAMB'S CLOTHING" ARE BUSY ON YOUR
VERY DOORSTEP! - ED.)

Re: [interfaith-forum] THE CATHOLIC CATECHISM: A THEOLOGICAL TRAGEDY

I have always found statements like this just too funny to leave
alone....this started out : "We respect our ignorant
Catholic brethren and the danger their church has always represented
to those more Righteous." Then went on
"We do not insult our Catholic brethren as they do us."

Ok, you say you RESPECT the Catholics and DO NOT insult them, but
then in the same breath you call them
IGNORANT, a DANGER TO THE MORE RIGHTEOUS, and then RESORT TO THEY
INSULTED ME FIRST
TACTICS saying "they do us."

I'm sorry, but in all my years I believed that referring to someone
as ignorant was considered an insult. Saying you
are MORE righteous than them is also insulting them. But
saying "they did it"......it sounds like breaking up a fight
between five year olds. If you really respected them it would have
shown in your writing.

Next time, try this: We have no respect for the Catholics because
we believe they are ignorant and have always
presented a danger to us and our beliefs. It is our belief that we
are more righteous and .........blah, blah, blah....

At least then you will seem like someone who is firm in his or her
beliefs and honest about it, instead of some puss,
lightweight politician.

BTW, no I'm not Catholic....I'm an ecclectic pagan.

Walker Boh
Owner: the_open_table@yahoogroups.com

-------Original Message-------

From: salvationscience
Date: 11/23/07 19:53:20
To: interfaith-forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [interfaith-forum] THE CATHOLIC CATECHISM: A THEOLOGICAL
TRAGEDY

THE CATHOLIC CATECHISM: A THEOLOGICAL TRAGEDY
http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/entiretoc1.htm

We respect our ignorant Catholic brethren and the danger their church
has always represented to those more Righteous. We do not insult our
Catholic brethren as they do us. Catholicism is a lamentation, for it
is built upon the destruction of True Gnosis and has always been a
danger for those more Righteous. For a historic view of the origins
of Catholicism, see The First Council of Nicea. Jai Om. - Sw.
Tantrasangha

http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/entiretoc1.htm

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