I would be happy to honor your request; Swamiji.

What is 'before we die'? One who has become an Eck Master/Holy
Spirit Master/ Whole Self; no longer has a realisation of death; it
is no more. His or her realization is Life through Love; and he is
adept at the Knowledge of Love and the giving of it without care if
it is returned at the moment of giving it; because he knows all will
eventually come into that Consciousness of Soul.

OBE is called out of the body; but is in fact; within the BODY; but
above the human consciousness. It is a Higher Demension of one's
self; still connected to the physical; feeling the experience of the
astral travel in the sleeping or meditating form; or observing the
form while having the ability to view the whole picture of Life for
that personality; as well as other's; though it is unethical to view
another personalitie's life without permission.

The NDE should be NLE, near life experience; for it is the merging
with the White Light of the Higher God Consciousness which brings
into the form such an incredible unconditional love and lack of fear
of death; that no one that returns can be the same again.

All who are awakening hope to reach that Eck Master/Holy Spirit
Master/Whole Self before the end of life; for once reached; we go
directly to the White Light and no longer must remain on the Wheel
of 84 to have to live in the flesh; unless we wish to return for the
sake of raising the 3rd demension beings to the higher plane of the
4th and 5th demensions until all humanity are together in the higher
demensions and can move as one unit into the White Light of Soul.
When that happens; the present age will end; which is the Age of the
Kali Yuga; and the New Age will begin where peace and love will
reign with no sickness and no death.

)O(




--- In cut@yahoogroups.com, "geneticrejuvenation"
<geneticrejuvenation@y...> wrote:
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/urinetantrasalvation/
>
> Thanks for the two excellent messages from the Eck master. Can you
> write something about why we need to be Eck masters BEFORE we die?
> Maybe something about fear of death and loss of control after
death.
> Eckankar literally means "One (no longer two) Ankh (Om, N. N.N.,
Nu,
> On, Ong, Nak, etc.) Body (vehicle, kar, kaya). Paul Twitchell
> originally used the word, "Eckankar", to describe Out-of-Body-
> Experience (OBE's or OOBE's) or Near-Death-Experiences (NDE's,
which
> are often a person's only experience into the Astral Realm of Soul
> Travel).
>
> To be able to do this at will, is considered to be Liberation from
the
> Suffering of Entrapment of Consciousness in the physical dimension.
> Thus, we overcome one of the Eight-Fold Sufferings. Some religions
> preach this as "complete Salvation", but that could only be true
if
> one
> overcomes the other seven sufferings, thereby. Note that Eckankar
> literally means "Androgynous (Newborn) Body" (the "Only Son of
God"),
> and Eckankar figuratively implies Atman's (the soul's or "Ka's" in
> Egyptian) travel into Akasha - the "Kingdom of Heaven". God is the
> Perception and Experience of this Bliss, which MUST be WITHIN US.
>
> By the Way, any who have lingering doubts about "Nut"
meaning "female
> water", should ask an Egyptologist. I am telling you the meaning
of
> the
> word. Then you can tag it onto anything wet you like, as a label,
> i.e. "the Sky Goddess", and Osiris often implies a Body of Water.
And
> no, I pull most of my commentaries from memory, and, for the most
> part,
> I don't remember where I read it. So, I guess you must simply trust
> another "wild claim" by Swamiji, that some ancient Egyptians were
into
> Rasa Tantra, or you can chase the "pied piper" who was recently
> banned.
>
> Jai Om. Om is Ankh, with the same consonants as Nak, the serpent,
> which
> is Naga in India, and traditionally appears on all kosher Siva
> Lingums,
> and is traditionally identified with Kundalini (the Holy Spirit). A
> pity that, ever since the Naga fell out of the Tree of Life, and
ate
> the dust of the ground, it has been considered an image of evil,
in
> the
> West. In the context we describe, one must consider the original
> meaning of the serpent. In Egyptian art, Nut is often portrayed in
the
> Tree of Life, pouring water to her man, who is drinking it.
>
> Similarly, Holy Water is poured over the sacred Siva Lingum - the
> image
> of man and woman conjoined by Advaitamrita - the Nectar of Sexual
> Union - joined, like Adam and Eve, "as ONE FLESH",! In other words,
> their mutual DNA's have merged, by a pairing of the chromosomes of
> each
> partner, and Mitosis has occurred, thus rendering their two
Bioplasmas
> and DNA Genetic Codes IDENTICAL! Symbolized as entering the Holy
City
> (New Jerusalem, Varanasi, where Two Rivers Merge as Shushumna Nadi,
> symbolized as the Sacred River Ganga), they complete their Mission
to
> Attain At-One-Ment with each other, which also bestows upon them
Union
> with the Higher Consciousness of the True Divinity, beyond all
> idolatrous names and forms! RadhaKrishna RasaMishra, Sitaram
Satanam!
> Jai Om. - Swami Tantrasangha
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