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#27369 From: kelli king <gizzycat40@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:17 am
Subject: Re: Hattie's Bill-OT
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Wonderful News Jen..... I will keep my fingers cross that it help get
your fight passed.
 
Kelli


 
 


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From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...>
Subject: [copinglist] Hattie's Bill-OT
To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 2:59 PM

 
Hi gang,
 
I just received word from the Prime Sponsor of HB 123 that it WILL be going to committe for voting sometime in December! (language issues have been addressed) This will be the FIRST TIME EVER this pending piece of legislation will be voted upon in the almost 9 years it's exhisted!  What a HUGE HURDLE!!!!!! It's a small step actually in the entire process in order to become law, BUT it's the very FIRST STEP it's ever taken!  I am so very excited to share this news with you. I will keep you all posted!
 
Hugs,
Jen and Hattie


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#27368 From: "Miki Casalino" <ccabek@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:36 am
Subject: Re:cannabis cafe!
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Since MM makes us pretty dizzy and tired, why add this to the mix?  I think I would rather not be more tuned out than I am all ready.

But it would make for a good sleep, and quiet time, I suppose.

If you live in WA………….Or CA.

Not taking the chance of mixing weed with valium, fentanyl and the other drugs I already take.

 

bek


#27367 From: "amandapandarubberbanda" <amandapandarubberbanda@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:20 am
Subject: New to list - HI
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Hi,
I'm new to this list.  Tomorrow I go in for a 3 hour balance test and am afraid
of getting sick in the office.

My mother was diagnosed with Meniere's Disease 15 years ago, so I am very
nervous about what my test results may bring.

Any tips for coping with the anxiety around not knowing why I'm dizzy, spinning,
can't hear, can't think straight?

Thanks for listening.

--Amanda

#27366 From: Lynn Pulaski <lynnpulaski@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:23 pm
Subject: Re: Hattie's Bill-OT
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Good News!  Keeping fingers crossed!
 

Life's short .....eat cookies!

Lynn Pulaski  
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Beaver Lake Animal Hospital
1528 W. Genesee Rd

Baldwinsville, NY 13027



From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...>
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Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 2:59:48 PM
Subject: [copinglist] Hattie's Bill-OT

 

Hi gang,
 
I just received word from the Prime Sponsor of HB 123 that it WILL be going to committe for voting sometime in December! (language issues have been addressed) This will be the FIRST TIME EVER this pending piece of legislation will be voted upon in the almost 9 years it's exhisted!  What a HUGE HURDLE!!!!!! It's a small step actually in the entire process in order to become law, BUT it's the very FIRST STEP it's ever taken!  I am so very excited to share this news with you. I will keep you all posted!
 
Hugs,
Jen and Hattie


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#27365 From: Terrie Humphries <wrshumphries@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: Hattie's Bill-OT
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Hey Jen,
 
I don't know how it works in your area, but in the state of Texas, bills are voted on several times before they actually become a law. I am so glad that it has come up for a vote. It is so hard to get bills to that point. Like I said, I never understood the bill process until I started reading my government book and now I am kind of interested in what is going on with Hatties bill. Not that I wasn't supporting the cause before, but I am more interested from a governmental perspective if that makes sence to you. I am interested in the process, not just the support that I am giving you. I have always rooted for you on this since I have been in the group.
 
Terrie

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From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...>
Subject: [copinglist] Hattie's Bill-OT
To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 1:59 PM

 
Hi gang,
 
I just received word from the Prime Sponsor of HB 123 that it WILL be going to committe for voting sometime in December! (language issues have been addressed) This will be the FIRST TIME EVER this pending piece of legislation will be voted upon in the almost 9 years it's exhisted!  What a HUGE HURDLE!!!!!! It's a small step actually in the entire process in order to become law, BUT it's the very FIRST STEP it's ever taken!  I am so very excited to share this news with you. I will keep you all posted!
 
Hugs,
Jen and Hattie


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#27364 From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:59 pm
Subject: Hattie's Bill-OT
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Hi gang,
 
I just received word from the Prime Sponsor of HB 123 that it WILL be going to committe for voting sometime in December! (language issues have been addressed) This will be the FIRST TIME EVER this pending piece of legislation will be voted upon in the almost 9 years it's exhisted!  What a HUGE HURDLE!!!!!! It's a small step actually in the entire process in order to become law, BUT it's the very FIRST STEP it's ever taken!  I am so very excited to share this news with you. I will keep you all posted!
 
Hugs,
Jen and Hattie


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#27363 From: SHEILA <prissy969@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: Total rambling some what OT
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OH JEN I HOPE IT ALL GOES WELL FOR YOU AS YOU CERTAINLY DESERVE IT!!
HUGS SHEILA

A HOME WITHOUT A CAT IS JUST A HOUSE !


--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...> wrote:

From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...>
Subject: [copinglist] Total rambling some what OT
To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 9:52 PM

 

Hi gang,
 
Oh jeesh, I am going to ramble here because that is the "mode" my brain is in at the moment, so I will apologize in advance.
 
I am so overwhelmed it's ridiculous but I am VERY THANKFUL to say the MM has been behaving itself for the most part. I have had some woozy spins and some frequent instability but nothing that has slammed me down recently.  I do have a very strange strange "thing" going on in my left ear.  It has been crackling like it has rice crispies deep inside. If I swallow, sneeze, blow my nose, yawn or even when I wash my ears it crackles.   A few nights ago that ear was painful but not inside, it was on the outside edge and has since gone away. Now I have this internal crackling  going on, it doesn't hurt, it's just very annoying, almost like someone is popping bubble wrap in my ear. In a way I find it partially humorous considering I am stone Deaf and can't hear a thing really, yet I can "hear" this crackling in my ear, LOL!!!!  I have an appointment with my family doctor for my gall bladder check up this week and I am going to have her take a "look see" in that ear. I'm curious as to what she has to say.
 
Now to the OT, part of this ramble.  I met for a second time with my local Representative, regarding Hattie's Bill. It was a productive meeting and I learned quite a bit more about the "proceedings" of legislation or should I say politics. I must tell you it's quite a frustrating and corrupt process. How any bill becomes law is beyond me, to be quite honest.
 
I was told that HB 123 will soon be scheduled for it's second attempt before the Judiciary Committee (most likely before christmas). Therefore, now is the time to get my legislative media packet out to each Judiciary member, along with my accumulated endorsements AND my own personal letter requesting the time and attention to the language issues of this legislation.  There are 27 members in all and I must tell you its quite a tedious task putting this all together, I AM ONLY ONE PERSON!  It was also suggested, that I schedule another meeting with my local Senator and ask him to submit a "Companion Bill" to the Senate. Much of the issues with this bill not being heard resides in the fact the Chairman's Chief Research Analyst dislikes this bill with all his might and without that individuals "blessing", the Chairman will never hear this bill. The second feat before me is the fact that the Judiciary is currently controlled by Democrats and this bill has been written, sponsored and submitted by a Republican. ( This political mumbo jumbo just infuriates me to no end). Sooooooooo.. .......that' s the "ins and outs" of my meeting with Representative Fleck.
 
Now onto my crazy and absolute whirlwind of a week ahead.  Monday evening, I have the Humane Society's Annual Appreciation Banquet. Tuesday, Hattie and I are doing a demonstration/ program at a local school district. Wednesday, is an "almost" open day (I say that with much caution). Thursday is my doctor appointment and then my speaking engagement at Juniata College with the AAUW regarding Hattie's Bill.  Friday, I honestly forget but I know there is something scheduled there.  Saturday is a banquet in my father's honor. Then Sunday, I am off to Philadelphia for the HLAA Banquet so that I can receive the Marcia Findishore Award for Advocacy. WHEW, that sent my nerves into a twitter just typing it all.  This doesn't count in between all of these "appointments" the preparation for each individual event, the legislative work I must do, the training sessions with Hattie etc...etc...
 
I'm trying my best to stay "afloat" but I am finding the further into the legislation I involve myself, the more difficult it is as a lone individual, to accomplish the things I must in order to meet the requirements that are necessary for this bill to "legitimately" be heard. It's exhausting to say the least. Hattie is well worth it all and then some. I just hope I can continue the fight with the same strong sense of self determination, I have since the beginning. Ok, I think that's all for now!
 
I hope you all are well!
Jen, Hattie and Kitties


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#27362 From: "windy_buddha" <windy_buddha@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:21 am
Subject: Re: Anti-viral question
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Hi Samara,

That's great news !

Do make it a point to observe and record the duration of the hearing loss
"cycle" i.e. the time it takes to regain the full hearing when (and if) you lose
it again.

In my case, the cycle became longer and longer (from once a day to once every
few days to a week) after starting the anti-viral. Eventually, my hearing
stopped fluctuating. But it took months not weeks, for that to happen. Ditto
with tinnitus.

In other words, while anti-viral helped stop vertigo/unsteadiness immediately,
the hearing fluctuation and tinnitus took much longer before they were tamed. I
believe the maintenance dose helped (and still continues to help).

best regards,

Windy Buddha

--- In copinglist@yahoogroups.com, "suncasa713" <suncasa713@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all- update-
>
> I did bump myself back up for a few days but settled back on 500 mgs. Today my
hearing came back in again. This time while it was out- it was different- lower
tinnitus and not alot of fluctuating- but then this morning I could hear the
rumble again. It seems that anti-virals work different for everyone but if you
haven't tried them PLEASE DO.
>
>
>
> --- In copinglist@yahoogroups.com, "suncasa713" <suncasa713@> wrote:
> >
> > I am hoping that WIndy or Susan see this- or anybody else that can give me
input!
> >
> > I have been taking Famvir for 9 weeks and am down to 500 mg with full
recovery from symptoms including a normal hearing test a couple of weeks ago.
But crud, my hearing started going out a gain a couple of days ago. I had
stopped taking gingko and really cut down on lysine but that's all I really
changed. I did stop from taking the morning pill on an empty stomach first thing
to taking it after a meal around 10 a.m.
> >
> > I am wondering if this is still part of the original healing process as mine
was VERY up and Down. Or if this is a new recurrence of the virus. I've been on
500 mg famvir (equivalent to 1600 mg of acyclovir) the while time so it's hard
for me to understand this backtrack. I think I will bump myself back up to 750
mgs for a couple of days to see if things improve. Doesn't look like my hearing
is way down but it's definitely down some. I have tried to make a phone
appointment with Dr. Gacek. None of my doctors have a protocol or know anything
about anti-virals.  Anybody have any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks so much. I hope everyone is doing okay! This disorder pretty much
sicks you know?!!
> >
> > : ) Samara
> >
>

#27361 From: Jesse Wells <jesseandalison@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:03 pm
Subject: cannabis cafe!
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Hi all,

Just wanted to spread the word that there is a cannabis cafe now open
in vancouver WA.
all you need to join is a doc script and to pay the monthly member
subscription.
completely legal and safe for  all members!

enjoy!

Jesse

#27360 From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:22 pm
Subject: RE: Total rambling some what OT
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Thanks Terrie for your response, yes, you are right on the fact that a pending piece of legislation can be killed or struck down in so many ways, it's un-nerving. It truly is just a ping pong pissing match (PARDON MY LANGUAGE) but it's the truth.  And the fact I have a state that STILL sees these Service Animals as a "pet", just makes it even more difficult.  I am hoping with the media attention I have gained on behalf of this legislation, I can finally apply pressure to the Judiciary to atleast LOOK at the bill and to also amend it's language. The way it is currently worded it would not serve any individual with a Service Animal in Pennsylvania absolutely any purpose. 
 
Anyways, before I start rambling again, my brain is so full of information regarding this bill, statistics, language definitions, crime code statues, on and on...I could literally ramble forever! And that's not counting the list of things I have ALREADY DONE and the list of things I still NEED TO DO!  (sigh).

Be well and thanks for the reply, it really helped that someone "gets" the battle I have before me.
 
Love and Hugs,
Jen, Hattie and Kitties

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From: wrshumphries@...
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:26:58 -0800
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Total rambling some what OT

 
Jen,
 
I know you have been fighting Hattie's bill tooth and nail and until I started taking Tx government I had no idea what it meant to make a bill a law. There are so many ways a bill can be killed it is not even funny. My government professor wrot the government book that I am reading now and he has done lots of research on the subject. It is almost impossible to get a bill made into a law especially if it was turned down once. You know I am behind you one hundred percint and I know that you will fight it till the victory. I will not say till the bitter end unless it is the legislatures bitter end. lol
 
I am glad you are having more good days with the MM. I understand what you are saying about the crackling. I always feel like I have snap, crackle and pop having an on going conversation in my ears. lol I also have the pain outside the ears once in a while but I don't know that that anything to do with the MM.
 
Terrie

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@hotmail.com>
Subject: [copinglist] Total rambling some what OT
To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 8:52 PM

 
Hi gang,
 
Oh jeesh, I am going to ramble here because that is the "mode" my brain is in at the moment, so I will apologize in advance.
 
I am so overwhelmed it's ridiculous but I am VERY THANKFUL to say the MM has been behaving itself for the most part. I have had some woozy spins and some frequent instability but nothing that has slammed me down recently.  I do have a very strange strange "thing" going on in my left ear.  It has been crackling like it has rice crispies deep inside. If I swallow, sneeze, blow my nose, yawn or even when I wash my ears it crackles.   A few nights ago that ear was painful but not inside, it was on the outside edge and has since gone away. Now I have this internal crackling  going on, it doesn't hurt, it's just very annoying, almost like someone is popping bubble wrap in my ear. In a way I find it partially humorous considering I am stone Deaf and can't hear a thing really, yet I can "hear" this crackling in my ear, LOL!!!!  I have an appointment with my family doctor for my gall bladder check up this week and I am going to have her take a "look see" in that ear. I'm curious as to what she has to say.
 
Now to the OT, part of this ramble.  I met for a second time with my local Representative, regarding Hattie's Bill. It was a productive meeting and I learned quite a bit more about the "proceedings" of legislation or should I say politics. I must tell you it's quite a frustrating and corrupt process. How any bill becomes law is beyond me, to be quite honest.
 
I was told that HB 123 will soon be scheduled for it's second attempt before the Judiciary Committee (most likely before christmas). Therefore, now is the time to get my legislative media packet out to each Judiciary member, along with my accumulated endorsements AND my own personal letter requesting the time and attention to the language issues of this legislation.  There are 27 members in all and I must tell you its quite a tedious task putting this all together, I AM ONLY ONE PERSON!  It was also suggested, that I schedule another meeting with my local Senator and ask him to submit a "Companion Bill" to the Senate. Much of the issues with this bill not being heard resides in the fact the Chairman's Chief Research Analyst dislikes this bill with all his might and without that individuals "blessing", the Chairman will never hear this bill. The second feat before me is the fact that the Judiciary is currently controlled by Democrats and this bill has been written, sponsored and submitted by a Republican. ( This political mumbo jumbo just infuriates me to no end). Sooooooooo.. .......that' s the "ins and outs" of my meeting with Representative Fleck.
 
Now onto my crazy and absolute whirlwind of a week ahead.  Monday evening, I have the Humane Society's Annual Appreciation Banquet. Tuesday, Hattie and I are doing a demonstration/ program at a local school district. Wednesday, is an "almost" open day (I say that with much caution). Thursday is my doctor appointment and then my speaking engagement at Juniata College with the AAUW regarding Hattie's Bill.  Friday, I honestly forget but I know there is something scheduled there.  Saturday is a banquet in my father's honor. Then Sunday, I am off to Philadelphia for the HLAA Banquet so that I can receive the Marcia Findishore Award for Advocacy. WHEW, that sent my nerves into a twitter just typing it all.  This doesn't count in between all of these "appointments" the preparation for each individual event, the legislative work I must do, the training sessions with Hattie etc...etc...
 
I'm trying my best to stay "afloat" but I am finding the further into the legislation I involve myself, the more difficult it is as a lone individual, to accomplish the things I must in order to meet the requirements that are necessary for this bill to "legitimately" be heard. It's exhausting to say the least. Hattie is well worth it all and then some. I just hope I can continue the fight with the same strong sense of self determination, I have since the beginning. Ok, I think that's all for now!
 
I hope you all are well!
Jen, Hattie and Kitties


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#27359 From: Terrie Humphries <wrshumphries@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:26 am
Subject: Re: Total rambling some what OT
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Jen,
 
I know you have been fighting Hattie's bill tooth and nail and until I started taking Tx government I had no idea what it meant to make a bill a law. There are so many ways a bill can be killed it is not even funny. My government professor wrot the government book that I am reading now and he has done lots of research on the subject. It is almost impossible to get a bill made into a law especially if it was turned down once. You know I am behind you one hundred percint and I know that you will fight it till the victory. I will not say till the bitter end unless it is the legislatures bitter end. lol
 
I am glad you are having more good days with the MM. I understand what you are saying about the crackling. I always feel like I have snap, crackle and pop having an on going conversation in my ears. lol I also have the pain outside the ears once in a while but I don't know that that anything to do with the MM.
 
Terrie

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...> wrote:

From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...>
Subject: [copinglist] Total rambling some what OT
To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 8:52 PM

 
Hi gang,
 
Oh jeesh, I am going to ramble here because that is the "mode" my brain is in at the moment, so I will apologize in advance.
 
I am so overwhelmed it's ridiculous but I am VERY THANKFUL to say the MM has been behaving itself for the most part. I have had some woozy spins and some frequent instability but nothing that has slammed me down recently.  I do have a very strange strange "thing" going on in my left ear.  It has been crackling like it has rice crispies deep inside. If I swallow, sneeze, blow my nose, yawn or even when I wash my ears it crackles.   A few nights ago that ear was painful but not inside, it was on the outside edge and has since gone away. Now I have this internal crackling  going on, it doesn't hurt, it's just very annoying, almost like someone is popping bubble wrap in my ear. In a way I find it partially humorous considering I am stone Deaf and can't hear a thing really, yet I can "hear" this crackling in my ear, LOL!!!!  I have an appointment with my family doctor for my gall bladder check up this week and I am going to have her take a "look see" in that ear. I'm curious as to what she has to say.
 
Now to the OT, part of this ramble.  I met for a second time with my local Representative, regarding Hattie's Bill. It was a productive meeting and I learned quite a bit more about the "proceedings" of legislation or should I say politics. I must tell you it's quite a frustrating and corrupt process. How any bill becomes law is beyond me, to be quite honest.
 
I was told that HB 123 will soon be scheduled for it's second attempt before the Judiciary Committee (most likely before christmas). Therefore, now is the time to get my legislative media packet out to each Judiciary member, along with my accumulated endorsements AND my own personal letter requesting the time and attention to the language issues of this legislation.  There are 27 members in all and I must tell you its quite a tedious task putting this all together, I AM ONLY ONE PERSON!  It was also suggested, that I schedule another meeting with my local Senator and ask him to submit a "Companion Bill" to the Senate. Much of the issues with this bill not being heard resides in the fact the Chairman's Chief Research Analyst dislikes this bill with all his might and without that individuals "blessing", the Chairman will never hear this bill. The second feat before me is the fact that the Judiciary is currently controlled by Democrats and this bill has been written, sponsored and submitted by a Republican. ( This political mumbo jumbo just infuriates me to no end). Sooooooooo.. .......that' s the "ins and outs" of my meeting with Representative Fleck.
 
Now onto my crazy and absolute whirlwind of a week ahead.  Monday evening, I have the Humane Society's Annual Appreciation Banquet. Tuesday, Hattie and I are doing a demonstration/ program at a local school district. Wednesday, is an "almost" open day (I say that with much caution). Thursday is my doctor appointment and then my speaking engagement at Juniata College with the AAUW regarding Hattie's Bill.  Friday, I honestly forget but I know there is something scheduled there.  Saturday is a banquet in my father's honor. Then Sunday, I am off to Philadelphia for the HLAA Banquet so that I can receive the Marcia Findishore Award for Advocacy. WHEW, that sent my nerves into a twitter just typing it all.  This doesn't count in between all of these "appointments" the preparation for each individual event, the legislative work I must do, the training sessions with Hattie etc...etc...
 
I'm trying my best to stay "afloat" but I am finding the further into the legislation I involve myself, the more difficult it is as a lone individual, to accomplish the things I must in order to meet the requirements that are necessary for this bill to "legitimately" be heard. It's exhausting to say the least. Hattie is well worth it all and then some. I just hope I can continue the fight with the same strong sense of self determination, I have since the beginning. Ok, I think that's all for now!
 
I hope you all are well!
Jen, Hattie and Kitties


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#27358 From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:52 am
Subject: Total rambling some what OT
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Hi gang,
 
Oh jeesh, I am going to ramble here because that is the "mode" my brain is in at the moment, so I will apologize in advance.
 
I am so overwhelmed it's ridiculous but I am VERY THANKFUL to say the MM has been behaving itself for the most part. I have had some woozy spins and some frequent instability but nothing that has slammed me down recently.  I do have a very strange strange "thing" going on in my left ear.  It has been crackling like it has rice crispies deep inside. If I swallow, sneeze, blow my nose, yawn or even when I wash my ears it crackles.   A few nights ago that ear was painful but not inside, it was on the outside edge and has since gone away. Now I have this internal crackling  going on, it doesn't hurt, it's just very annoying, almost like someone is popping bubble wrap in my ear. In a way I find it partially humorous considering I am stone Deaf and can't hear a thing really, yet I can "hear" this crackling in my ear, LOL!!!!  I have an appointment with my family doctor for my gall bladder check up this week and I am going to have her take a "look see" in that ear. I'm curious as to what she has to say.
 
Now to the OT, part of this ramble.  I met for a second time with my local Representative, regarding Hattie's Bill. It was a productive meeting and I learned quite a bit more about the "proceedings" of legislation or should I say politics. I must tell you it's quite a frustrating and corrupt process. How any bill becomes law is beyond me, to be quite honest.
 
I was told that HB 123 will soon be scheduled for it's second attempt before the Judiciary Committee (most likely before christmas). Therefore, now is the time to get my legislative media packet out to each Judiciary member, along with my accumulated endorsements AND my own personal letter requesting the time and attention to the language issues of this legislation.  There are 27 members in all and I must tell you its quite a tedious task putting this all together, I AM ONLY ONE PERSON!  It was also suggested, that I schedule another meeting with my local Senator and ask him to submit a "Companion Bill" to the Senate. Much of the issues with this bill not being heard resides in the fact the Chairman's Chief Research Analyst dislikes this bill with all his might and without that individuals "blessing", the Chairman will never hear this bill. The second feat before me is the fact that the Judiciary is currently controlled by Democrats and this bill has been written, sponsored and submitted by a Republican. ( This political mumbo jumbo just infuriates me to no end). Sooooooooo.........that's the "ins and outs" of my meeting with Representative Fleck.
 
Now onto my crazy and absolute whirlwind of a week ahead.  Monday evening, I have the Humane Society's Annual Appreciation Banquet. Tuesday, Hattie and I are doing a demonstration/program at a local school district. Wednesday, is an "almost" open day (I say that with much caution). Thursday is my doctor appointment and then my speaking engagement at Juniata College with the AAUW regarding Hattie's Bill.  Friday, I honestly forget but I know there is something scheduled there.  Saturday is a banquet in my father's honor. Then Sunday, I am off to Philadelphia for the HLAA Banquet so that I can receive the Marcia Findishore Award for Advocacy. WHEW, that sent my nerves into a twitter just typing it all.  This doesn't count in between all of these "appointments" the preparation for each individual event, the legislative work I must do, the training sessions with Hattie etc...etc...
 
I'm trying my best to stay "afloat" but I am finding the further into the legislation I involve myself, the more difficult it is as a lone individual, to accomplish the things I must in order to meet the requirements that are necessary for this bill to "legitimately" be heard. It's exhausting to say the least. Hattie is well worth it all and then some. I just hope I can continue the fight with the same strong sense of self determination, I have since the beginning. Ok, I think that's all for now!
 
I hope you all are well!
Jen, Hattie and Kitties


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#27357 From: "suncasa713" <suncasa713@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:19 am
Subject: Re: Anti-viral question
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Hi all- update-

I did bump myself back up for a few days but settled back on 500 mgs. Today my
hearing came back in again. This time while it was out- it was different- lower
tinnitus and not alot of fluctuating- but then this morning I could hear the
rumble again. It seems that anti-virals work different for everyone but if you
haven't tried them PLEASE DO.



--- In copinglist@yahoogroups.com, "suncasa713" <suncasa713@...> wrote:
>
> I am hoping that WIndy or Susan see this- or anybody else that can give me
input!
>
> I have been taking Famvir for 9 weeks and am down to 500 mg with full recovery
from symptoms including a normal hearing test a couple of weeks ago. But crud,
my hearing started going out a gain a couple of days ago. I had stopped taking
gingko and really cut down on lysine but that's all I really changed. I did stop
from taking the morning pill on an empty stomach first thing to taking it after
a meal around 10 a.m.
>
> I am wondering if this is still part of the original healing process as mine
was VERY up and Down. Or if this is a new recurrence of the virus. I've been on
500 mg famvir (equivalent to 1600 mg of acyclovir) the while time so it's hard
for me to understand this backtrack. I think I will bump myself back up to 750
mgs for a couple of days to see if things improve. Doesn't look like my hearing
is way down but it's definitely down some. I have tried to make a phone
appointment with Dr. Gacek. None of my doctors have a protocol or know anything
about anti-virals.  Anybody have any suggestions?
>
> Thanks so much. I hope everyone is doing okay! This disorder pretty much sicks
you know?!!
>
> : ) Samara
>

#27356 From: "jhennd" <jhennd@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:08 pm
Subject: Re: OT surgery
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Good luck with the surgery.  I had my gallbladder removed 11 yrs ago because it
wasn't functioning properly.  Had my surgery (laproscopic) on a Monday and was
back at work substitute teaching by Thursday or Friday.  I only had to take the
pain meds for the pain in my shoulders due to the air they pumped into my
stomach and the gas they used.  I was sore when i went back but it wasn't any
worse than if I'd done a lot of situps.


Jen D.

--- In copinglist@yahoogroups.com, Lu Ann Hilliard <luannhilliard@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi everyone. I am having my gallbladder taken out on MON. i am scared but i
know that i will be ok. i am crying it hurts so much. i am glad when this thing
is taken out.
> my parish nurse and a friend are going with me. it is to be a one day surgery
but because of my heart condition they may keep me overnight.
> I will be off line for a while because sitting at my computer hurts but i will
update as soon as i can.
> Thanks for your thoughts in advance
> Lu Ann From chicago
> IL
> '
>

#27355 From: George Holmes <gholmes1936@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:41 pm
Subject: Re: OT surgery
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Love n'hugs for you Lu Ann.You'll be so thankful that it is out and you are on the mend. Hang in there.
George in Texas

On Nov 13, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Lu Ann Hilliard wrote:

 

Hi everyone. I am having my gallbladder taken out on MON. i am scared but i know that i will be ok. i am crying it hurts so much. i am glad when this thing is taken out.
my parish nurse and a friend are going with me. it is to be a one day surgery but because of my heart condition they may keep me overnight.
I will be off line for a while because sitting at my computer hurts but i will update as soon as i can.
Thanks for your thoughts in advance
Lu Ann From chicago
IL
'



#27354 From: bowerslou@...
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: OT surgery
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Dear LuAnn,
    Piece of cake I hope! Have lots of friends who have had it done! You are in my thoughts and prayers! Love and hugs, Lou
 
In a message dated 11/13/2009 9:58:12 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, luannhilliard@... writes:
 

Hi everyone. I am having my gallbladder taken out on MON. i am scared but i know that i will be ok. i am crying it hurts so much. i am glad when this thing is taken out.
my parish nurse and a friend are going with me. it is to be a one day surgery but because of my heart condition they may keep me overnight.
I will be off line for a while because sitting at my computer hurts but i will update as soon as i can.
Thanks for your thoughts in advance
Lu Ann From chicago
IL
'


#27353 From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:22 pm
Subject: RE: OT surgery
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Lu Ann,
 
Good luck, just keep the faith. You'll feel so much better once this is taken care of. We will be thinking of you and look forward to your return. Until then, no worries, ok. Just take care of yourself. We are here for you.
 
Jen, Hattie and Kitties
 

To: copinglist@yahoogroups.com
From: luannhilliard@...
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:46:40 -0800
Subject: Re: [copinglist] OT surgery

 
Hi everyone. I am having my gallbladder taken out on MON. i am scared but i know that i will be ok. i am crying it hurts so much. i am glad when this thing is taken out.
my parish nurse and a friend are going with me. it is to be a one day surgery but because of my heart condition they may keep me overnight.
I will be off line for a while because sitting at my computer hurts but i will update as soon as i can.
Thanks for your thoughts in advance
Lu Ann From chicago
IL
'




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#27352 From: SHEILA <prissy969@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:16 pm
Subject: Re: OT surgery
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HI LUANN....
I WISH YOU THE BEST AN A FAST RECOVERY. YOU'LL BE IN AND OUT AN FEEL MUCH BETTER I AM SURE BEFORE YA KNOW IT.
TAKE CARE SHEILA

A HOME WITHOUT A CAT IS JUST A HOUSE !


--- On Fri, 11/13/09, Lu Ann Hilliard <luannhilliard@...> wrote:

From: Lu Ann Hilliard <luannhilliard@...>
Subject: Re: [copinglist] OT surgery
To: copinglist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:46 PM

 

Hi everyone. I am having my gallbladder taken out on MON. i am scared but i know that i will be ok. i am crying it hurts so much. i am glad when this thing is taken out.
my parish nurse and a friend are going with me. it is to be a one day surgery but because of my heart condition they may keep me overnight.
I will be off line for a while because sitting at my computer hurts but i will update as soon as i can.
Thanks for your thoughts in advance
Lu Ann From chicago
IL
'



#27351 From: Penny Antine <pennyantine@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:13 pm
Subject: Re: OT surgery
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We'll be thinking of you, Lu Ann -- it will be over before you know it and you'll
be feeling so much better. How wonderful that medicine today can do so much
to help us. In the past you'd have no way to get relief and get healthy again.
We have so much to be grateful for. I've been thru 5 surgeries in the past 4
years and believe you me, I live in gratitude every day. I would be crippled
today if not for our modern day medical miracles.  A week from now you'll be
a new person.
 
Take heart and take care...
 
Penny - L.A.

--- On Fri, 11/13/09, Lu Ann Hilliard <luannhilliard@...> wrote:

From: Lu Ann Hilliard <luannhilliard@...>
Subject: Re: [copinglist] OT surgery
To: copinglist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 9:46 AM

 
Hi everyone. I am having my gallbladder taken out on MON. i am scared but i know that i will be ok. i am crying it hurts so much. i am glad when this thing is taken out.
my parish nurse and a friend are going with me. it is to be a one day surgery but because of my heart condition they may keep me overnight.
I will be off line for a while because sitting at my computer hurts but i will update as soon as i can.
Thanks for your thoughts in advance
Lu Ann From chicago
IL
'


#27350 From: Lu Ann Hilliard <luannhilliard@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:46 pm
Subject: Re: OT surgery
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Hi everyone. I am having my gallbladder taken out on MON. i am scared but i know that i will be ok. i am crying it hurts so much. i am glad when this thing is taken out.
my parish nurse and a friend are going with me. it is to be a one day surgery but because of my heart condition they may keep me overnight.
I will be off line for a while because sitting at my computer hurts but i will update as soon as i can.
Thanks for your thoughts in advance
Lu Ann From chicago
IL
'


#27349 From: SHEILA <prissy969@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:34 pm
Subject: Re: Thursday update!
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HI JULIE
I WISH YOU WELL AND I AM GLAD YOU GOT THE CLEARANCE TO GO BACK TO YOUR IN INTERNSHIP. I HOPE THE THESTS THAT ARE TO COME GIVE YOU MORE ANSWERS.
SHEILA

A HOME WITHOUT A CAT IS JUST A HOUSE !


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Subject: [copinglist] Thursday update!
To: copinglist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 6:48 PM

 

Hi all!

Meniere's has not yet been ruled out. The "abnormality" is deep in my brain where if it would affect anything, it would affect my right side motor, not balance or hearing. Still don't know exactly what it is, I'll be doing more tests done and seeing the neurosurgeon for the spot, but it's not the cause of the vertigo, tinnitus, and come and go hearing loss.

I did get good news. I did as the ENT nurse had told me to, and that was if the neurologist could not do anything about the medical clearances, to bring the form to the ENT, which he said "no restrictions" and signed it! :-D. I can go back to my internship soon!!!

~Julie~


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#27348 From: SHEILA <prissy969@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:14 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Anti-viral question - also an appeal to all
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HI EVERYONE. I FULLY STAND BEHIND WINDY MY ANTI-VIRAL HAS BEEN WONDERFUL FOR ME , IT'S WORKED SO WELL.
TAKE CARE, SHEILA

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--- On Fri, 11/13/09, windy_buddha <windy_buddha@...> wrote:

From: windy_buddha <windy_buddha@...>
Subject: [copinglist] Re: Anti-viral question - also an appeal to all
To: copinglist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 4:39 AM

 

Hi Samara,

Thank you for your kind words! It will be good if more and more people try the anti-virals.

To all,

Requesting everyone (esp. those with recurrent vertigo) who hasn't, to try the anti-viral treatment that has helped several Mneiere's patients (also some BPPV and VN). While success is not guaranteed, you have nothing to lose by trying this for a couple of months to begin with. All it takes is a few tablets a day! The treatment is based on Dr. Gacek's recent research. (He is with the UMASS Medical school near Boston).

To reiterate my story, after starting with a high dose of the anti-viral Acyclovir for a couple of months, my doctor tapered it down over several months. I now take a maintenance dose of 800mg of Acyclovir. I am also taking Vit. C (1g/day), Vit. E (400IU), L-lysine (500mg/day) and Lemon bioflavonoid (1 tablet/day) and Vit B12 (750micrograms/ day). This subset of John of Ohio supplements seems to help me, at least it is harmless and is certainly good for health!! I add a Ginkgo Biloba tablet in case there is a hint of ear fullness. With the above, I have not had a *single* vertigo episode in the three years since I started on the Acyclovir. That was after two years of recurrent vertigo. Tinnitus too is down nearly to zero.

The foods that I avoid: Nuts of all kinds (contain the protein "arginine" which the virus uses to replicate), coffee and mushrooms. A couple of cups of tea is no problem, however. No low-salt diet any more, for the last two years or so.

I hope more people will volunteer to try the anti-viral treatment. Those of us who have benefitted, will surely help you convince your doctor to write a prescription for the anti-virals. You doctor can also try and contact Dr. Gacek for advice.

best regards,

Windy Buddha

--- In copinglist@yahoogro ups.com, "suncasa713" <suncasa713@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi Windy,
>
> Funny how our symptoms have been the same. This time my hearing went out gradually over a period of about 5 days. The fullness came back and the hearing was out but today it's much better. The tinnitus has become kind a lot lower though i know the hearing is still out some. I did bump myself back up for a few days to 750 mgs but it didn't seem to help much. I think it will come all the way back again. Hoping so. I am on 500 mgs famvir now. But taking lots of lysine and watching my diet.
>
> I have some lorazepam which is in the same family as valium. I did have to take some last week to help me sleep - the tinnitus was so awful. I'm feeling encouraged that at least it seems to be moving in a direction of improvement quickly - though I have learned to take one day at a time with this stuff. The safe maintenance dose of Famvir is 500 mgs for a year. I might stay on it that long and then cut down to 250.
>
> THANK YOU so much for all your information. My doctor doesn't know much and Dr. Gacek is sick right now not doing phone consults.
>
> Take care!
>
> Samara
>
> --- In copinglist@yahoogro ups.com, "windy_buddha" <windy_buddha@ > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Samara,
> >
> > In my case too, only the low tone hearing loss had became permanent, the rest of it used to fluctuate. Though the fluctuation is now completely gone with the anti-virals, they were not able to restore the low tone loss. The doc said the loss is due to a permanent nerve damage which cannot be reversed.
> >
> > I too had squealing tinnitus which kept me on the edge always. I could not sleep well at night due to this. Just before starting the anti-virals, my doc had put me on 0.5 mg of clonazepam per day (US brand name Klonopin) to help control anxiety and to help me sleep better. This drug dramatically reduced the tinnitus too. Since the drug is habit forming, he tapered it down carefully over a few months. In the meanwhile, antivirals started working and the intensity of the squealing tinnitus went down, so there was no need for a tinnitus- or sleep-medication anymore!
> >
> > During the last two years that I am taking the maintenance dose, it has happened once or twice that the ear fullness returned or tinnitus went up a bit. Increasing the Acyclovir dose to 1600 mg/day for a few days reversed these symptoms and I haven't felt the need to take the clonazepam again ! But when I did take it, it worked great as a symptom-suppressor earlier.
> >
> > You may want to ask your doctor about taking such a drug unless you are doing so already (clonazepam is of the same class as valium, but is less habit forming).
> >
> > A caution: Dr. Gacek's research clearly says that Acyclovir works the best on vertigo (85-90%) and only about 50% of tinnitus patients benefit from it. In my case too, the vertigo stopped within weeks, but the intensity of the less loud tinnitus fell down slowly with time. My guess is this is something to do with the slow healing of the nerves even after the virus was fully controlled by the anti-viral. To help the process, my doctor asked me to take a Vit. B12 supplement, which I take even today.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > best regards,
> >
> > Windy Buddha
> >
> > --- In copinglist@yahoogro ups.com, "suncasa713" <suncasa713@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Windy,
> > >
> > > I haven't had any problems with vertigo at all since last March (only one episode). In general, vertigo only comes for me once or twice a year when pollen comes out in the spring. My main symptom has been low tone hearing loss and pretty awful car horn type tinnitus. The tinnitus is what I really have a hard time with and that only happens when the hearing goes down. I'm not sure I really understand how the virus operates in the body and I'm also not sure how the anti-virals work exactly. I remember you took 2400 mgs for almost 2 1/2 months- I was on the equivalent for 6 1/2 weeks before tapering down 1/2 tablet and then a full one to 500 mgs. Considering my hearing returned to total normal I guess the anti-virals do work in that way as well.
> > >
> > > My immune system is having a hard time recovering because of lack of sleep and stress this illness has caused. I get so freaked out when the tinnitus comes back in the night. The car horn starts and it jostles my nerves creating a real fright or flight response that continues for the whole night- last night I got very little sleep as the night before. I am scared that I would have to live with that the rest of my life if my hearing doesn't come back in- I just can't imagine trying to adapt the the kind of tinnitus I get. I guess if it came down to it and I had to, I would find a way.
> > >
> > > I did take an additional mid-afternoon pill yesterday and I think I will take one today as well and then taper to 625 mgs tomorrow and and back down to 500 after that. So it will only be 3 days at a little higher dosage. I soooo appreciate your input on this. I am really hoping to have an appointment with Dr. Gacek soon.
> > >
> > >
> > > Samara
> > >
> > > --- In copinglist@yahoogro ups.com, "windy_buddha" <windy_buddha@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Samara,
> > > >
> > > > Based on my own experience over last three years, I suggest you should restore the Ginkgo and Lysine and *not* up the Famvir dosage. Of course it is best if you could consult Dr. Gacek directly. My reasons are:
> > > >
> > > > - It is not desirable to take a high dose of Herpes anti-virals for more than a few weeks, due to lack of relevant studies. (Studies for long term maintenance dose have been done and no side effects have been reported.) The established high dose therapy is approved only for a few weeks.
> > > >
> > > > - The idea behind the initial high dose is to kill most of the fast replicating virus and then try and help the body build the immuinity through a tapering dose so that the body can keep the virus in check. That is why I would recommend continuing the naturopathy supplements for a much longer time, since they help achieve this objective through supplementation of anti-viral nutrients & vitamins or by improving blood circulation etc. I had continued taking Ginkgo and Lysine for a year *after* I went on the maintenance dose of the anti-viral, then reduced their dosage carefully down to zero. I still take Vit C (1g/day) and Vit E (400IU).
> > > >
> > > > - In my case, it was not unusual to have fluctuating hearing every few days, in the initial months of staring the antiviral (even when I was on 1600mg dose of Acyclovir). My interpretation was that a fluctuating hearing is not same as a permanent loss of hearing, rather it is caused by the ear fullness (fluid accumulation) which temporarily interferes with the hearing process. My doctor confirmed this. Once the fullness is reduced through leakage (often accompanied by loud tinnitus for a few hours), the hearing returns to near normal before another cycle of fluctuation would begin. With time, the fullness and the fluctuating hearing cycles went away.
> > > >
> > > > - Hence, as long as vertigo/dizzy spells etc. do not return and as long as the hearing loss is fluctuating (i.e. it goes away in a few days cyclically), I would not treat a fluctuating hearing alone as an indication of a serious relapse. Dr. Gacek also mentions that anti-virals have less of an effect on hearing related symptoms (fullness, tinnitus included)than on vertigo. All the reason *not* to stop John of Ohio components.
> > > >
> > > > - I hope you continue to take other precautions, esp. no caffeine and low salt diet etc. Do avoid other known triggers too, as far as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this clarifies why I think you should not stop the supplements too soon.
> > > >
> > > > best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Windy Buddha
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In copinglist@yahoogro ups.com, "suncasa713" <suncasa713@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am hoping that WIndy or Susan see this- or anybody else that can give me input!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been taking Famvir for 9 weeks and am down to 500 mg with full recovery from symptoms including a normal hearing test a couple of weeks ago. But crud, my hearing started going out a gain a couple of days ago. I had stopped taking gingko and really cut down on lysine but that's all I really changed. I did stop from taking the morning pill on an empty stomach first thing to taking it after a meal around 10 a.m.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am wondering if this is still part of the original healing process as mine was VERY up and Down. Or if this is a new recurrence of the virus. I've been on 500 mg famvir (equivalent to 1600 mg of acyclovir) the while time so it's hard for me to understand this backtrack. I think I will bump myself back up to 750 mgs for a couple of days to see if things improve. Doesn't look like my hearing is way down but it's definitely down some. I have tried to make a phone appointment with Dr. Gacek. None of my doctors have a protocol or know anything about anti-virals. Anybody have any suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks so much. I hope everyone is doing okay! This disorder pretty much sicks you know?!!
> > > > >
> > > > > : ) Samara
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



#27347 From: "windy_buddha" <windy_buddha@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:39 am
Subject: Re: Anti-viral question - also an appeal to all
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Hi Samara,

Thank you for your kind words! It will be good if more and more people try the
anti-virals.

To all,

Requesting everyone (esp. those with recurrent vertigo) who hasn't, to try the
anti-viral treatment that has helped several Mneiere's patients (also some BPPV
and VN). While success is not guaranteed, you have nothing to lose by trying
this for a couple of months to begin with. All it takes is a few  tablets a day!
The treatment is based on Dr. Gacek's recent research. (He is with the UMASS
Medical school near Boston).

To reiterate my story, after starting with a high dose of the anti-viral
Acyclovir for a couple of months, my doctor tapered it down over several months.
I now take a maintenance dose of 800mg of Acyclovir. I am also taking Vit. C
(1g/day), Vit. E (400IU), L-lysine (500mg/day) and Lemon bioflavonoid (1
tablet/day) and Vit B12 (750micrograms/day). This subset of John of Ohio
supplements seems to help me, at least it is harmless and is certainly good for
health!! I add a Ginkgo Biloba tablet in case there is a hint of ear fullness.
With the above, I have not had a *single* vertigo episode in the three years
since I started on the Acyclovir. That was after two years of recurrent vertigo.
Tinnitus too is down nearly to zero.

The foods that I avoid: Nuts of all kinds (contain the protein "arginine" which
the virus uses to replicate), coffee and mushrooms. A couple of cups of tea is
no problem, however. No low-salt diet any more, for the last two years or so.

I hope more people will volunteer to try the anti-viral treatment. Those of us
who have benefitted, will surely help you convince your doctor to write a
prescription for the anti-virals. You doctor can also try and contact Dr. Gacek
for advice.

best regards,

Windy Buddha

--- In copinglist@yahoogroups.com, "suncasa713" <suncasa713@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Windy,
>
> Funny how our symptoms have been the same. This time my hearing went out
gradually over a period of about 5 days. The fullness came back and the hearing
was out but today it's much better. The tinnitus has become kind a lot lower
though i know the hearing is still out some. I did bump myself back up for a few
days to 750 mgs but it didn't seem to help much. I think it will come all the
way back again. Hoping so. I am on 500 mgs famvir now. But taking lots of lysine
and watching my diet.
>
> I have some lorazepam which is in the same family as valium. I did have to
take some last week to help me sleep - the tinnitus was so awful. I'm feeling
encouraged that at least it seems to be moving in a direction of improvement
quickly - though I have learned to take one day at a time with this stuff. The
safe maintenance dose of Famvir is 500 mgs for a year. I might stay on it that
long and then cut down to 250.
>
> THANK YOU so much for all your information. My doctor doesn't know much and
Dr. Gacek is sick right now not doing phone consults.
>
> Take care!
>
> Samara
>
> --- In copinglist@yahoogroups.com, "windy_buddha" <windy_buddha@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Samara,
> >
> > In my case too, only the low tone hearing loss had became permanent, the
rest of it used to fluctuate. Though the fluctuation is now completely gone with
the anti-virals, they were not able to restore the low tone loss. The doc said
the loss is due to a permanent nerve damage which cannot be reversed.
> >
> > I too had squealing tinnitus which kept me on the edge always. I could not
sleep well at night due to this. Just before starting the anti-virals, my doc
had put me on 0.5 mg of clonazepam per day (US brand name Klonopin) to help
control anxiety and to help me sleep better. This drug dramatically reduced the
tinnitus too. Since the drug is habit forming, he tapered it down carefully over
a few months. In the meanwhile, antivirals started working and the intensity of
the squealing tinnitus went down, so there was no need for a tinnitus- or
sleep-medication anymore!
> >
> > During the last two years that I am taking the maintenance dose, it has
happened once or twice that the ear fullness returned or tinnitus went up a bit.
Increasing the Acyclovir dose to 1600 mg/day for a few days reversed these
symptoms and I haven't felt the need to take the clonazepam again ! But when I
did take it, it worked great as a symptom-suppressor earlier.
> >
> > You may want to ask your doctor about taking such a drug unless you are
doing so already (clonazepam is of the same class as valium, but is less habit
forming).
> >
> > A caution: Dr. Gacek's research clearly says that Acyclovir works the best
on vertigo (85-90%) and only about 50% of tinnitus patients benefit from it. In
my case too, the vertigo stopped within weeks, but the intensity of the less
loud tinnitus fell down slowly with time. My guess is this is something to do
with the slow healing of the nerves even after the virus was fully controlled by
the anti-viral. To help the process, my doctor asked me to take a Vit. B12
supplement, which I take even today.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > best regards,
> >
> > Windy Buddha
> >
> > --- In copinglist@yahoogroups.com, "suncasa713" <suncasa713@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Windy,
> > >
> > > I haven't had any problems with vertigo at all since last March (only one
episode). In general, vertigo only comes for me once or twice a year when pollen
comes out in the spring. My main symptom has been low tone hearing loss and
pretty awful car horn type tinnitus. The tinnitus is what I really have a hard
time with and that only happens when the hearing goes down. I'm not sure I
really understand how the virus operates in the body and I'm also not sure how
the anti-virals work exactly. I remember you took 2400 mgs for almost 2 1/2
months- I was on the equivalent for 6 1/2 weeks before tapering down 1/2 tablet
and then a full one to 500 mgs. Considering my hearing returned to total normal
I guess the anti-virals do work in that way as well.
> > >
> > > My immune system is having a hard time recovering because of lack of sleep
and stress this illness has caused. I get so freaked out when the tinnitus comes
back in the night. The car horn starts and it jostles my nerves creating a real
fright or flight response that continues for the whole night- last night I got
very little sleep as the night before. I am scared that I would have to live
with that the rest of my life if my hearing doesn't come back in- I just can't
imagine trying to adapt the the kind of tinnitus I get. I guess if it came down
to it and I had to, I would find a way.
> > >
> > > I did take an additional  mid-afternoon pill yesterday and I think I will
take one today as well and then taper to 625 mgs tomorrow and and back down to
500 after that. So it will only be 3 days at a little higher dosage. I soooo
appreciate your input on this. I am really hoping to have an appointment with
Dr. Gacek soon.
> > >
> > >
> > > Samara
> > >
> > > --- In copinglist@yahoogroups.com, "windy_buddha" <windy_buddha@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Samara,
> > > >
> > > > Based on my own experience over last three years, I suggest you should
restore the Ginkgo and Lysine and *not* up the Famvir dosage. Of course it is
best if you could consult Dr. Gacek directly. My reasons are:
> > > >
> > > > - It is not desirable to take a high dose of Herpes anti-virals for more
than a few weeks, due to lack of relevant studies. (Studies for long term
maintenance dose have been done and no side effects have been reported.) The
established high dose therapy is approved only for a few weeks.
> > > >
> > > > - The idea behind the initial high dose is to kill most of the fast
replicating virus and then try and help the body build the immuinity through a
tapering dose so that the body can keep the virus in check. That is why I would
recommend continuing the naturopathy supplements for a much longer time, since
they help achieve this objective through supplementation of anti-viral nutrients
& vitamins or by improving blood circulation etc. I had continued taking Ginkgo
and Lysine for a year *after* I went on the maintenance dose of the anti-viral,
then reduced their dosage carefully down to zero. I still take Vit C (1g/day)
and Vit E (400IU).
> > > >
> > > > - In my case, it was not unusual to have fluctuating hearing every few
days, in the initial months of staring the antiviral (even when I was on 1600mg
dose of Acyclovir). My interpretation was that a fluctuating hearing is not same
as a permanent loss of hearing, rather it is caused by the ear fullness (fluid
accumulation) which temporarily interferes with the hearing process. My doctor
confirmed this. Once the fullness is reduced through leakage (often accompanied
by loud tinnitus for a few hours), the hearing returns to near normal before
another cycle of fluctuation would begin. With time, the fullness and the
fluctuating hearing cycles went away.
> > > >
> > > > - Hence, as long as vertigo/dizzy spells etc. do not return and as long
as the hearing loss is fluctuating (i.e. it goes away in a few days cyclically),
I would not treat a fluctuating hearing alone as an indication of a serious
relapse. Dr. Gacek also mentions that anti-virals have less of an effect on
hearing related symptoms (fullness, tinnitus included)than on vertigo. All the
reason *not* to stop John of Ohio components.
> > > >
> > > > - I hope you continue to take other precautions, esp. no caffeine and
low salt diet etc. Do avoid other known triggers too, as far as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this clarifies why I think you should not stop the supplements too
soon.
> > > >
> > > > best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Windy Buddha
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In copinglist@yahoogroups.com, "suncasa713" <suncasa713@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am hoping that WIndy or Susan see this- or anybody else that can
give me input!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been taking Famvir for 9 weeks and am down to 500 mg with full
recovery from symptoms including a normal hearing test a couple of weeks ago.
But crud, my hearing started going out a gain a couple of days ago. I had
stopped taking gingko and really cut down on lysine but that's all I really
changed. I did stop from taking the morning pill on an empty stomach first thing
to taking it after a meal around 10 a.m.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am wondering if this is still part of the original healing process
as mine was VERY up and Down. Or if this is a new recurrence of the virus. I've
been on 500 mg famvir (equivalent to 1600 mg of acyclovir) the while time so
it's hard for me to understand this backtrack. I think I will bump myself back
up to 750 mgs for a couple of days to see if things improve. Doesn't look like
my hearing is way down but it's definitely down some. I have tried to make a
phone appointment with Dr. Gacek. None of my doctors have a protocol or know
anything about anti-virals.  Anybody have any suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks so much. I hope everyone is doing okay! This disorder pretty
much sicks you know?!!
> > > > >
> > > > > : ) Samara
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#27346 From: Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:44 am
Subject: The Doctors
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Did anyone see "The Doctors" today?  There was something on there about a new procedure that can help save hearing loss but I missed it. 

Rhonda


#27345 From: "candidatejulie" <candidatejulie@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:48 pm
Subject: Thursday update!
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Hi all!

Meniere's has not yet been ruled out.  The "abnormality" is deep in my brain
where if it would affect anything, it would affect my right side motor, not
balance or hearing.  Still don't know exactly what it is, I'll be doing more
tests done and seeing the neurosurgeon for the spot, but it's not the cause of
the vertigo, tinnitus, and come and go hearing loss.

I did get good news.  I did as the ENT nurse had told me to, and that was if the
neurologist could not do anything about the medical clearances, to bring the
form to the ENT, which he said "no restrictions" and signed it! :-D.  I can go
back to my internship soon!!!

~Julie~

#27344 From: Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:17 am
Subject: Re: Sheila
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That's exactly why I went blond!  lol


From: SHEILA <prissy969@...>
To: copinglist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 7:57:36 AM
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Sheila

 

lol yep but blod blends better with grey lol

A HOME WITHOUT A CAT IS JUST A HOUSE !


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Sheila
To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 7:16 PM

 

So are mine.  oh the things we do to be blond and humiliated.  lol


From: SHEILA <prissy969@yahoo. com>
To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 7:11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Rhonda

 

well my roots are brn lol lol

A HOME WITHOUT A CAT IS JUST A HOUSE !


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@hotmail. com>
Subject: [copinglist] Rhonda
To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogro ups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:42 PM

 

Rhonda,
 
SHE IS BLONDE!
 


To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com
From: rhonda.kneeland@ yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:29:45 -0800
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Quotes of the day-OT

 
Sheila,

Are you blond?  hehe

Rhonda


From: SHEILA <prissy969@yahoo. com>
To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:23:18 PM
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Quotes of the day-OT

 

THOSE ARE GOOD AND OMG I FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHAT OT NEXT TO HEADING MEANS....... ......OFF TOPIC RIGHT?  LOL
SHEILA

A HOME WITHOUT A CAT IS JUST A HOUSE !


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@hotmail. com>
Subject: [copinglist] Quotes of the day-OT
To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogro ups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 10:20 AM

 

"If we could first know where we are...we could then better judge what to do and how to do it."
-Abraham Lincoln
 
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."
-Will Rogers
 
"Integrate what you believe in every single area of your life. Take your heart to work and ask the most and best of everybody else, too."
-Meryl Streep



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#27343 From: "suncasa713" <suncasa713@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:37 am
Subject: Re: Anti-viral question - Samara
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Hi Windy,

Funny how our symptoms have been the same. This time my hearing went out
gradually over a period of about 5 days. The fullness came back and the hearing
was out but today it's much better. The tinnitus has become kind a lot lower
though i know the hearing is still out some. I did bump myself back up for a few
days to 750 mgs but it didn't seem to help much. I think it will come all the
way back again. Hoping so. I am on 500 mgs famvir now. But taking lots of lysine
and watching my diet.

I have some lorazepam which is in the same family as valium. I did have to take
some last week to help me sleep - the tinnitus was so awful. I'm feeling
encouraged that at least it seems to be moving in a direction of improvement
quickly - though I have learned to take one day at a time with this stuff. The
safe maintenance dose of Famvir is 500 mgs for a year. I might stay on it that
long and then cut down to 250.

THANK YOU so much for all your information. My doctor doesn't know much and Dr.
Gacek is sick right now not doing phone consults.

Take care!

Samara

--- In copinglist@yahoogroups.com, "windy_buddha" <windy_buddha@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Samara,
>
> In my case too, only the low tone hearing loss had became permanent, the rest
of it used to fluctuate. Though the fluctuation is now completely gone with the
anti-virals, they were not able to restore the low tone loss. The doc said the
loss is due to a permanent nerve damage which cannot be reversed.
>
> I too had squealing tinnitus which kept me on the edge always. I could not
sleep well at night due to this. Just before starting the anti-virals, my doc
had put me on 0.5 mg of clonazepam per day (US brand name Klonopin) to help
control anxiety and to help me sleep better. This drug dramatically reduced the
tinnitus too. Since the drug is habit forming, he tapered it down carefully over
a few months. In the meanwhile, antivirals started working and the intensity of
the squealing tinnitus went down, so there was no need for a tinnitus- or
sleep-medication anymore!
>
> During the last two years that I am taking the maintenance dose, it has
happened once or twice that the ear fullness returned or tinnitus went up a bit.
Increasing the Acyclovir dose to 1600 mg/day for a few days reversed these
symptoms and I haven't felt the need to take the clonazepam again ! But when I
did take it, it worked great as a symptom-suppressor earlier.
>
> You may want to ask your doctor about taking such a drug unless you are doing
so already (clonazepam is of the same class as valium, but is less habit
forming).
>
> A caution: Dr. Gacek's research clearly says that Acyclovir works the best on
vertigo (85-90%) and only about 50% of tinnitus patients benefit from it. In my
case too, the vertigo stopped within weeks, but the intensity of the less loud
tinnitus fell down slowly with time. My guess is this is something to do with
the slow healing of the nerves even after the virus was fully controlled by the
anti-viral. To help the process, my doctor asked me to take a Vit. B12
supplement, which I take even today.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> best regards,
>
> Windy Buddha
>
> --- In copinglist@yahoogroups.com, "suncasa713" <suncasa713@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Windy,
> >
> > I haven't had any problems with vertigo at all since last March (only one
episode). In general, vertigo only comes for me once or twice a year when pollen
comes out in the spring. My main symptom has been low tone hearing loss and
pretty awful car horn type tinnitus. The tinnitus is what I really have a hard
time with and that only happens when the hearing goes down. I'm not sure I
really understand how the virus operates in the body and I'm also not sure how
the anti-virals work exactly. I remember you took 2400 mgs for almost 2 1/2
months- I was on the equivalent for 6 1/2 weeks before tapering down 1/2 tablet
and then a full one to 500 mgs. Considering my hearing returned to total normal
I guess the anti-virals do work in that way as well.
> >
> > My immune system is having a hard time recovering because of lack of sleep
and stress this illness has caused. I get so freaked out when the tinnitus comes
back in the night. The car horn starts and it jostles my nerves creating a real
fright or flight response that continues for the whole night- last night I got
very little sleep as the night before. I am scared that I would have to live
with that the rest of my life if my hearing doesn't come back in- I just can't
imagine trying to adapt the the kind of tinnitus I get. I guess if it came down
to it and I had to, I would find a way.
> >
> > I did take an additional  mid-afternoon pill yesterday and I think I will
take one today as well and then taper to 625 mgs tomorrow and and back down to
500 after that. So it will only be 3 days at a little higher dosage. I soooo
appreciate your input on this. I am really hoping to have an appointment with
Dr. Gacek soon.
> >
> >
> > Samara
> >
> > --- In copinglist@yahoogroups.com, "windy_buddha" <windy_buddha@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Samara,
> > >
> > > Based on my own experience over last three years, I suggest you should
restore the Ginkgo and Lysine and *not* up the Famvir dosage. Of course it is
best if you could consult Dr. Gacek directly. My reasons are:
> > >
> > > - It is not desirable to take a high dose of Herpes anti-virals for more
than a few weeks, due to lack of relevant studies. (Studies for long term
maintenance dose have been done and no side effects have been reported.) The
established high dose therapy is approved only for a few weeks.
> > >
> > > - The idea behind the initial high dose is to kill most of the fast
replicating virus and then try and help the body build the immuinity through a
tapering dose so that the body can keep the virus in check. That is why I would
recommend continuing the naturopathy supplements for a much longer time, since
they help achieve this objective through supplementation of anti-viral nutrients
& vitamins or by improving blood circulation etc. I had continued taking Ginkgo
and Lysine for a year *after* I went on the maintenance dose of the anti-viral,
then reduced their dosage carefully down to zero. I still take Vit C (1g/day)
and Vit E (400IU).
> > >
> > > - In my case, it was not unusual to have fluctuating hearing every few
days, in the initial months of staring the antiviral (even when I was on 1600mg
dose of Acyclovir). My interpretation was that a fluctuating hearing is not same
as a permanent loss of hearing, rather it is caused by the ear fullness (fluid
accumulation) which temporarily interferes with the hearing process. My doctor
confirmed this. Once the fullness is reduced through leakage (often accompanied
by loud tinnitus for a few hours), the hearing returns to near normal before
another cycle of fluctuation would begin. With time, the fullness and the
fluctuating hearing cycles went away.
> > >
> > > - Hence, as long as vertigo/dizzy spells etc. do not return and as long as
the hearing loss is fluctuating (i.e. it goes away in a few days cyclically), I
would not treat a fluctuating hearing alone as an indication of a serious
relapse. Dr. Gacek also mentions that anti-virals have less of an effect on
hearing related symptoms (fullness, tinnitus included)than on vertigo. All the
reason *not* to stop John of Ohio components.
> > >
> > > - I hope you continue to take other precautions, esp. no caffeine and low
salt diet etc. Do avoid other known triggers too, as far as possible.
> > >
> > > Hope this clarifies why I think you should not stop the supplements too
soon.
> > >
> > > best regards,
> > >
> > > Windy Buddha
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In copinglist@yahoogroups.com, "suncasa713" <suncasa713@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am hoping that WIndy or Susan see this- or anybody else that can give
me input!
> > > >
> > > > I have been taking Famvir for 9 weeks and am down to 500 mg with full
recovery from symptoms including a normal hearing test a couple of weeks ago.
But crud, my hearing started going out a gain a couple of days ago. I had
stopped taking gingko and really cut down on lysine but that's all I really
changed. I did stop from taking the morning pill on an empty stomach first thing
to taking it after a meal around 10 a.m.
> > > >
> > > > I am wondering if this is still part of the original healing process as
mine was VERY up and Down. Or if this is a new recurrence of the virus. I've
been on 500 mg famvir (equivalent to 1600 mg of acyclovir) the while time so
it's hard for me to understand this backtrack. I think I will bump myself back
up to 750 mgs for a couple of days to see if things improve. Doesn't look like
my hearing is way down but it's definitely down some. I have tried to make a
phone appointment with Dr. Gacek. None of my doctors have a protocol or know
anything about anti-virals.  Anybody have any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks so much. I hope everyone is doing okay! This disorder pretty much
sicks you know?!!
> > > >
> > > > : ) Samara
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#27342 From: "Carol" <spirit0323@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:27 am
Subject: Motivator - This moment is what it is>OT
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This moment is what it is

Choose to accept all that comes your way and in it you will find great value. Resist the urge to impose your judgment on the people, places, things and events that surround you, and you'll connect with many more possibilities.

To make the very best of any situation, you must first acknowledge and accept the reality of what it is. That provides you with a valuable starting point from which you can move in any direction you choose.

To deny or to fight against what has already happened will merely waste your energy and resources. To wish that things had been different, or to pretend that they are, will do you no good.

Instead, visualize what can be in all the richness and detail that you can imagine. Then find a step you can take right now that will lead you in the direction of your dream.

Losers argue about what has happened and who is at fault, and put their energy into resentment for what is. Winners choose the life they wish to create, and find a way to move toward it from any situation.

This moment is here and now, and this moment is what it is. Accept it fully, with enthusiasm and gratitude, and take a big step in the direction of your dream.

-- Ralph Marston


#27341 From: SHEILA <prissy969@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:57 pm
Subject: Re: Sheila
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lol yep but blod blends better with grey lol

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--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@...> wrote:

From: Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@...>
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Sheila
To: copinglist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 7:16 PM

 

So are mine.  oh the things we do to be blond and humiliated.  lol


From: SHEILA <prissy969@yahoo. com>
To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 7:11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Rhonda

 

well my roots are brn lol lol

A HOME WITHOUT A CAT IS JUST A HOUSE !


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@hotmail. com>
Subject: [copinglist] Rhonda
To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogro ups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:42 PM

 

Rhonda,
 
SHE IS BLONDE!
 


To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com
From: rhonda.kneeland@ yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:29:45 -0800
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Quotes of the day-OT

 
Sheila,

Are you blond?  hehe

Rhonda


From: SHEILA <prissy969@yahoo. com>
To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:23:18 PM
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Quotes of the day-OT

 

THOSE ARE GOOD AND OMG I FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHAT OT NEXT TO HEADING MEANS....... ......OFF TOPIC RIGHT?  LOL
SHEILA

A HOME WITHOUT A CAT IS JUST A HOUSE !


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@hotmail. com>
Subject: [copinglist] Quotes of the day-OT
To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogro ups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 10:20 AM

 

"If we could first know where we are...we could then better judge what to do and how to do it."
-Abraham Lincoln
 
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."
-Will Rogers
 
"Integrate what you believe in every single area of your life. Take your heart to work and ask the most and best of everybody else, too."
-Meryl Streep



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#27340 From: Terrie Humphries <wrshumphries@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:30 am
Subject: Re: Re: Terrie - OT
wrshumphries...
Online Now Online Now
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I am under Terrie Hortman Humphries

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@...> wrote:

From: Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@...>
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Re: Terrie - OT
To: copinglist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 6:18 PM

 
Yes I have a facebook account.  Let me try to find you on facebook and I will add you as a friend.

Rhonda


From: Terrie Humphries <wrshumphries@ sbcglobal. net>
To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 9:50:01 PM
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Re: Terrie - OT

 
I accepted you name just the other day but for some reason it keeps saying that i didn't. Do you have a facebook account?


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [copinglist] Re: Terrie - OT
To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:19 PM

 
Yes I have.

Rhonda


From: Terrie Humphries <wrshumphries@ sbcglobal. net>
To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:55:33 PM
Subject: Re: [copinglist] I finally did it! - OT

 
Hey Rhonda,
 
I know what you mean about that mammogram thing. I hate that and the other thing to. We women have all the luck but then the guys have their own bit of fun.
 
I have a question for you. Have you been trying to invite me to be a friend on yahoo messenger. If you have I have not recognized your name and I have been hitting ignore and I apologize.
 
Terrie

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [copinglist] I finally did it! - OT
To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 4:43 PM

 
The men can ignore this.
 
Just wanted to let everyone know I finally got my first mammogram today after my doc fussing at me for the past two years to get one.  It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.  Results in a couple of weeks.
 
Rhonda




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