From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...>
Subject: [copinglist] Hattie's Bill-OT
To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 2:59 PM

 

Hi gang,
 
I just received word from the Prime Sponsor of HB 123 that it WILL be going to committe for voting sometime in December! (language issues have been addressed) This will be the FIRST TIME EVER this pending piece of legislation will be voted upon in the almost 9 years it's exhisted!  What a HUGE HURDLE!!!!!! It's a small step actually in the entire process in order to become law, BUT it's the very FIRST STEP it's ever taken!  I am so very excited to share this news with you. I will keep you all posted!
 
Hugs,
Jen and Hattie

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From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...>
Subject: [copinglist] Hattie's Bill-OT
To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 1:59 PM

 

Hi gang,
 
I just received word from the Prime Sponsor of HB 123 that it WILL be going to committe for voting sometime in December! (language issues have been addressed) This will be the FIRST TIME EVER this pending piece of legislation will be voted upon in the almost 9 years it's exhisted!  What a HUGE HURDLE!!!!!! It's a small step actually in the entire process in order to become law, BUT it's the very FIRST STEP it's ever taken!  I am so very excited to share this news with you. I will keep you all posted!
 
Hugs,
Jen and Hattie

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From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...>
Subject: [copinglist] Total rambling some what OT
To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 9:52 PM

 

Hi gang,
 
Oh jeesh, I am going to ramble here because that is the "mode" my brain is in at the moment, so I will apologize in advance.
 
I am so overwhelmed it's ridiculous but I am VERY THANKFUL to say the MM has been behaving itself for the most part. I have had some woozy spins and some frequent instability but nothing that has slammed me down recently.  I do have a very strange strange "thing" going on in my left ear.  It has been crackling like it has rice crispies deep inside. If I swallow, sneeze, blow my nose, yawn or even when I wash my ears it crackles.   A few nights ago that ear was painful but not inside, it was on the outside edge and has since gone away. Now I have this internal crackling  going on, it doesn't hurt, it's just very annoying, almost like someone is popping bubble wrap in my ear. In a way I find it partially humorous considering I am stone Deaf and can't hear a thing really, yet I can "hear" this crackling in my ear, LOL!!!!  I have an appointment with my family doctor for my gall bladder check up this week and I am going to have her take a "look see" in that ear. I'm curious as to what she has to say.
 
Now to the OT, part of this ramble.  I met for a second time with my local Representative, regarding Hattie's Bill. It was a productive meeting and I learned quite a bit more about the "proceedings" of legislation or should I say politics. I must tell you it's quite a frustrating and corrupt process. How any bill becomes law is beyond me, to be quite honest.
 
I was told that HB 123 will soon be scheduled for it's second attempt before the Judiciary Committee (most likely before christmas). Therefore, now is the time to get my legislative media packet out to each Judiciary member, along with my accumulated endorsements AND my own personal letter requesting the time and attention to the language issues of this legislation.  There are 27 members in all and I must tell you its quite a tedious task putting this all together, I AM ONLY ONE PERSON!  It was also suggested, that I schedule another meeting with my local Senator and ask him to submit a "Companion Bill" to the Senate. Much of the issues with this bill not being heard resides in the fact the Chairman's Chief Research Analyst dislikes this bill with all his might and without that individuals "blessing", the Chairman will never hear this bill. The second feat before me is the fact that the Judiciary is currently controlled by Democrats and this bill has been written, sponsored and submitted by a Republican. ( This political mumbo jumbo just infuriates me to no end). Sooooooooo.. .......that' s the "ins and outs" of my meeting with Representative Fleck.
 
Now onto my crazy and absolute whirlwind of a week ahead.  Monday evening, I have the Humane Society's Annual Appreciation Banquet. Tuesday, Hattie and I are doing a demonstration/ program at a local school district. Wednesday, is an "almost" open day (I say that with much caution). Thursday is my doctor appointment and then my speaking engagement at Juniata College with the AAUW regarding Hattie's Bill.  Friday, I honestly forget but I know there is something scheduled there.  Saturday is a banquet in my father's honor. Then Sunday, I am off to Philadelphia for the HLAA Banquet so that I can receive the Marcia Findishore Award for Advocacy. WHEW, that sent my nerves into a twitter just typing it all.  This doesn't count in between all of these "appointments" the preparation for each individual event, the legislative work I must do, the training sessions with Hattie etc...etc...
 
I'm trying my best to stay "afloat" but I am finding the further into the legislation I involve myself, the more difficult it is as a lone individual, to accomplish the things I must in order to meet the requirements that are necessary for this bill to "legitimately" be heard. It's exhausting to say the least. Hattie is well worth it all and then some. I just hope I can continue the fight with the same strong sense of self determination, I have since the beginning. Ok, I think that's all for now!
 
I hope you all are well!
Jen, Hattie and Kitties

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From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@...>
Subject: [copinglist] Total rambling some what OT
To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 8:52 PM

 

Hi gang,
 
Oh jeesh, I am going to ramble here because that is the "mode" my brain is in at the moment, so I will apologize in advance.
 
I am so overwhelmed it's ridiculous but I am VERY THANKFUL to say the MM has been behaving itself for the most part. I have had some woozy spins and some frequent instability but nothing that has slammed me down recently.  I do have a very strange strange "thing" going on in my left ear.  It has been crackling like it has rice crispies deep inside. If I swallow, sneeze, blow my nose, yawn or even when I wash my ears it crackles.   A few nights ago that ear was painful but not inside, it was on the outside edge and has since gone away. Now I have this internal crackling  going on, it doesn't hurt, it's just very annoying, almost like someone is popping bubble wrap in my ear. In a way I find it partially humorous considering I am stone Deaf and can't hear a thing really, yet I can "hear" this crackling in my ear, LOL!!!!  I have an appointment with my family doctor for my gall bladder check up this week and I am going to have her take a "look see" in that ear. I'm curious as to what she has to say.
 
Now to the OT, part of this ramble.  I met for a second time with my local Representative, regarding Hattie's Bill. It was a productive meeting and I learned quite a bit more about the "proceedings" of legislation or should I say politics. I must tell you it's quite a frustrating and corrupt process. How any bill becomes law is beyond me, to be quite honest.
 
I was told that HB 123 will soon be scheduled for it's second attempt before the Judiciary Committee (most likely before christmas). Therefore, now is the time to get my legislative media packet out to each Judiciary member, along with my accumulated endorsements AND my own personal letter requesting the time and attention to the language issues of this legislation.  There are 27 members in all and I must tell you its quite a tedious task putting this all together, I AM ONLY ONE PERSON!  It was also suggested, that I schedule another meeting with my local Senator and ask him to submit a "Companion Bill" to the Senate. Much of the issues with this bill not being heard resides in the fact the Chairman's Chief Research Analyst dislikes this bill with all his might and without that individuals "blessing", the Chairman will never hear this bill. The second feat before me is the fact that the Judiciary is currently controlled by Democrats and this bill has been written, sponsored and submitted by a Republican. ( This political mumbo jumbo just infuriates me to no end). Sooooooooo.. .......that' s the "ins and outs" of my meeting with Representative Fleck.
 
Now onto my crazy and absolute whirlwind of a week ahead.  Monday evening, I have the Humane Society's Annual Appreciation Banquet. Tuesday, Hattie and I are doing a demonstration/ program at a local school district. Wednesday, is an "almost" open day (I say that with much caution). Thursday is my doctor appointment and then my speaking engagement at Juniata College with the AAUW regarding Hattie's Bill.  Friday, I honestly forget but I know there is something scheduled there.  Saturday is a banquet in my father's honor. Then Sunday, I am off to Philadelphia for the HLAA Banquet so that I can receive the Marcia Findishore Award for Advocacy. WHEW, that sent my nerves into a twitter just typing it all.  This doesn't count in between all of these "appointments" the preparation for each individual event, the legislative work I must do, the training sessions with Hattie etc...etc...
 
I'm trying my best to stay "afloat" but I am finding the further into the legislation I involve myself, the more difficult it is as a lone individual, to accomplish the things I must in order to meet the requirements that are necessary for this bill to "legitimately" be heard. It's exhausting to say the least. Hattie is well worth it all and then some. I just hope I can continue the fight with the same strong sense of self determination, I have since the beginning. Ok, I think that's all for now!
 
I hope you all are well!
Jen, Hattie and Kitties

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From: Lu Ann Hilliard <luannhilliard@...>
Subject: Re: [copinglist] OT surgery
To: copinglist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:46 PM

 

Hi everyone. I am having my gallbladder taken out on MON. i am scared but i know that i will be ok. i am crying it hurts so much. i am glad when this thing is taken out. my parish nurse and a friend are going with me. it is to be a one day surgery but because of my heart condition they may keep me overnight. I will be off line for a while because sitting at my computer hurts but i will update as soon as i can. Thanks for your thoughts in advance Lu Ann From chicago IL '

From: Lu Ann Hilliard <luannhilliard@...>
Subject: Re: [copinglist] OT surgery
To: copinglist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 9:46 AM

 

Hi everyone. I am having my gallbladder taken out on MON. i am scared but i know that i will be ok. i am crying it hurts so much. i am glad when this thing is taken out. my parish nurse and a friend are going with me. it is to be a one day surgery but because of my heart condition they may keep me overnight. I will be off line for a while because sitting at my computer hurts but i will update as soon as i can. Thanks for your thoughts in advance Lu Ann From chicago IL '

Hi everyone. I am having my gallbladder taken out on MON. i am scared but i know that i will be ok. i am crying it hurts so much. i am glad when this thing is taken out.

my parish nurse and a friend are going with me. it is to be a one day surgery but because of my heart condition they may keep me overnight.

I will be off line for a while because sitting at my computer hurts but i will update as soon as i can.

Thanks for your thoughts in advance

Lu Ann From chicago

IL

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From: candidatejulie <candidatejulie@...>
Subject: [copinglist] Thursday update!
To: copinglist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 6:48 PM

 

Hi all!

Meniere's has not yet been ruled out. The "abnormality" is deep in my brain where if it would affect anything, it would affect my right side motor, not balance or hearing. Still don't know exactly what it is, I'll be doing more tests done and seeing the neurosurgeon for the spot, but it's not the cause of the vertigo, tinnitus, and come and go hearing loss.

I did get good news. I did as the ENT nurse had told me to, and that was if the neurologist could not do anything about the medical clearances, to bring the form to the ENT, which he said "no restrictions" and signed it! :-D. I can go back to my internship soon!!!

~Julie~

From: windy_buddha <windy_buddha@...>
Subject: [copinglist] Re: Anti-viral question - also an appeal to all
To: copinglist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 4:39 AM

 

Hi Samara,

Thank you for your kind words! It will be good if more and more people try the anti-virals.

To all,

Requesting everyone (esp. those with recurrent vertigo) who hasn't, to try the anti-viral treatment that has helped several Mneiere's patients (also some BPPV and VN). While success is not guaranteed, you have nothing to lose by trying this for a couple of months to begin with. All it takes is a few tablets a day! The treatment is based on Dr. Gacek's recent research. (He is with the UMASS Medical school near Boston).

To reiterate my story, after starting with a high dose of the anti-viral Acyclovir for a couple of months, my doctor tapered it down over several months. I now take a maintenance dose of 800mg of Acyclovir. I am also taking Vit. C (1g/day), Vit. E (400IU), L-lysine (500mg/day) and Lemon bioflavonoid (1 tablet/day) and Vit B12 (750micrograms/ day). This subset of John of Ohio supplements seems to help me, at least it is harmless and is certainly good for health!! I add a Ginkgo Biloba tablet in case there is a hint of ear fullness. With the above, I have not had a *single* vertigo episode in the three years since I started on the Acyclovir. That was after two years of recurrent vertigo. Tinnitus too is down nearly to zero.

The foods that I avoid: Nuts of all kinds (contain the protein "arginine" which the virus uses to replicate), coffee and mushrooms. A couple of cups of tea is no problem, however. No low-salt diet any more, for the last two years or so.

I hope more people will volunteer to try the anti-viral treatment. Those of us who have benefitted, will surely help you convince your doctor to write a prescription for the anti-virals. You doctor can also try and contact Dr. Gacek for advice.

best regards,

Windy Buddha

--- In copinglist@yahoogro ups.com, "suncasa713" <suncasa713@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi Windy,
>
> Funny how our symptoms have been the same. This time my hearing went out gradually over a period of about 5 days. The fullness came back and the hearing was out but today it's much better. The tinnitus has become kind a lot lower though i know the hearing is still out some. I did bump myself back up for a few days to 750 mgs but it didn't seem to help much. I think it will come all the way back again. Hoping so. I am on 500 mgs famvir now. But taking lots of lysine and watching my diet.
>
> I have some lorazepam which is in the same family as valium. I did have to take some last week to help me sleep - the tinnitus was so awful. I'm feeling encouraged that at least it seems to be moving in a direction of improvement quickly - though I have learned to take one day at a time with this stuff. The safe maintenance dose of Famvir is 500 mgs for a year. I might stay on it that long and then cut down to 250.
>
> THANK YOU so much for all your information. My doctor doesn't know much and Dr. Gacek is sick right now not doing phone consults.
>
> Take care!
>
> Samara
>
> --- In copinglist@yahoogro ups.com, "windy_buddha" <windy_buddha@ > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Samara,
> >
> > In my case too, only the low tone hearing loss had became permanent, the rest of it used to fluctuate. Though the fluctuation is now completely gone with the anti-virals, they were not able to restore the low tone loss. The doc said the loss is due to a permanent nerve damage which cannot be reversed.
> >
> > I too had squealing tinnitus which kept me on the edge always. I could not sleep well at night due to this. Just before starting the anti-virals, my doc had put me on 0.5 mg of clonazepam per day (US brand name Klonopin) to help control anxiety and to help me sleep better. This drug dramatically reduced the tinnitus too. Since the drug is habit forming, he tapered it down carefully over a few months. In the meanwhile, antivirals started working and the intensity of the squealing tinnitus went down, so there was no need for a tinnitus- or sleep-medication anymore!
> >
> > During the last two years that I am taking the maintenance dose, it has happened once or twice that the ear fullness returned or tinnitus went up a bit. Increasing the Acyclovir dose to 1600 mg/day for a few days reversed these symptoms and I haven't felt the need to take the clonazepam again ! But when I did take it, it worked great as a symptom-suppressor earlier.
> >
> > You may want to ask your doctor about taking such a drug unless you are doing so already (clonazepam is of the same class as valium, but is less habit forming).
> >
> > A caution: Dr. Gacek's research clearly says that Acyclovir works the best on vertigo (85-90%) and only about 50% of tinnitus patients benefit from it. In my case too, the vertigo stopped within weeks, but the intensity of the less loud tinnitus fell down slowly with time. My guess is this is something to do with the slow healing of the nerves even after the virus was fully controlled by the anti-viral. To help the process, my doctor asked me to take a Vit. B12 supplement, which I take even today.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > best regards,
> >
> > Windy Buddha
> >
> > --- In copinglist@yahoogro ups.com, "suncasa713" <suncasa713@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Windy,
> > >
> > > I haven't had any problems with vertigo at all since last March (only one episode). In general, vertigo only comes for me once or twice a year when pollen comes out in the spring. My main symptom has been low tone hearing loss and pretty awful car horn type tinnitus. The tinnitus is what I really have a hard time with and that only happens when the hearing goes down. I'm not sure I really understand how the virus operates in the body and I'm also not sure how the anti-virals work exactly. I remember you took 2400 mgs for almost 2 1/2 months- I was on the equivalent for 6 1/2 weeks before tapering down 1/2 tablet and then a full one to 500 mgs. Considering my hearing returned to total normal I guess the anti-virals do work in that way as well.
> > >
> > > My immune system is having a hard time recovering because of lack of sleep and stress this illness has caused. I get so freaked out when the tinnitus comes back in the night. The car horn starts and it jostles my nerves creating a real fright or flight response that continues for the whole night- last night I got very little sleep as the night before. I am scared that I would have to live with that the rest of my life if my hearing doesn't come back in- I just can't imagine trying to adapt the the kind of tinnitus I get. I guess if it came down to it and I had to, I would find a way.
> > >
> > > I did take an additional mid-afternoon pill yesterday and I think I will take one today as well and then taper to 625 mgs tomorrow and and back down to 500 after that. So it will only be 3 days at a little higher dosage. I soooo appreciate your input on this. I am really hoping to have an appointment with Dr. Gacek soon.
> > >
> > >
> > > Samara
> > >
> > > --- In copinglist@yahoogro ups.com, "windy_buddha" <windy_buddha@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Samara,
> > > >
> > > > Based on my own experience over last three years, I suggest you should restore the Ginkgo and Lysine and *not* up the Famvir dosage. Of course it is best if you could consult Dr. Gacek directly. My reasons are:
> > > >
> > > > - It is not desirable to take a high dose of Herpes anti-virals for more than a few weeks, due to lack of relevant studies. (Studies for long term maintenance dose have been done and no side effects have been reported.) The established high dose therapy is approved only for a few weeks.
> > > >
> > > > - The idea behind the initial high dose is to kill most of the fast replicating virus and then try and help the body build the immuinity through a tapering dose so that the body can keep the virus in check. That is why I would recommend continuing the naturopathy supplements for a much longer time, since they help achieve this objective through supplementation of anti-viral nutrients & vitamins or by improving blood circulation etc. I had continued taking Ginkgo and Lysine for a year *after* I went on the maintenance dose of the anti-viral, then reduced their dosage carefully down to zero. I still take Vit C (1g/day) and Vit E (400IU).
> > > >
> > > > - In my case, it was not unusual to have fluctuating hearing every few days, in the initial months of staring the antiviral (even when I was on 1600mg dose of Acyclovir). My interpretation was that a fluctuating hearing is not same as a permanent loss of hearing, rather it is caused by the ear fullness (fluid accumulation) which temporarily interferes with the hearing process. My doctor confirmed this. Once the fullness is reduced through leakage (often accompanied by loud tinnitus for a few hours), the hearing returns to near normal before another cycle of fluctuation would begin. With time, the fullness and the fluctuating hearing cycles went away.
> > > >
> > > > - Hence, as long as vertigo/dizzy spells etc. do not return and as long as the hearing loss is fluctuating (i.e. it goes away in a few days cyclically), I would not treat a fluctuating hearing alone as an indication of a serious relapse. Dr. Gacek also mentions that anti-virals have less of an effect on hearing related symptoms (fullness, tinnitus included)than on vertigo. All the reason *not* to stop John of Ohio components.
> > > >
> > > > - I hope you continue to take other precautions, esp. no caffeine and low salt diet etc. Do avoid other known triggers too, as far as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this clarifies why I think you should not stop the supplements too soon.
> > > >
> > > > best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Windy Buddha
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In copinglist@yahoogro ups.com, "suncasa713" <suncasa713@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am hoping that WIndy or Susan see this- or anybody else that can give me input!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been taking Famvir for 9 weeks and am down to 500 mg with full recovery from symptoms including a normal hearing test a couple of weeks ago. But crud, my hearing started going out a gain a couple of days ago. I had stopped taking gingko and really cut down on lysine but that's all I really changed. I did stop from taking the morning pill on an empty stomach first thing to taking it after a meal around 10 a.m.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am wondering if this is still part of the original healing process as mine was VERY up and Down. Or if this is a new recurrence of the virus. I've been on 500 mg famvir (equivalent to 1600 mg of acyclovir) the while time so it's hard for me to understand this backtrack. I think I will bump myself back up to 750 mgs for a couple of days to see if things improve. Doesn't look like my hearing is way down but it's definitely down some. I have tried to make a phone appointment with Dr. Gacek. None of my doctors have a protocol or know anything about anti-virals. Anybody have any suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks so much. I hope everyone is doing okay! This disorder pretty much sicks you know?!!
> > > > >
> > > > > : ) Samara
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

From: Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@...>
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Sheila
To: copinglist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 7:16 PM

 

So are mine.  oh the things we do to be blond and humiliated.  lol

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From: SHEILA <prissy969@yahoo. com>
To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 7:11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Rhonda

 

well my roots are brn lol lol A HOME WITHOUT A CAT IS JUST A HOUSE ! --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@hotmail. com> wrote: From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@hotmail. com> Subject: [copinglist] Rhonda To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogro ups.com> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:42 PM   Rhonda,   SHE IS BLONDE!   To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com From: rhonda.kneeland@ yahoo.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:29:45 -0800 Subject: Re: [copinglist] Quotes of the day-OT   Sheila, Are you blond?  hehe Rhonda From: SHEILA <prissy969@yahoo. com> To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:23:18 PM Subject: Re: [copinglist] Quotes of the day-OT   THOSE ARE GOOD AND OMG I FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHAT OT NEXT TO HEADING MEANS....... ......OFF TOPIC RIGHT?  LOL SHEILA A HOME WITHOUT A CAT IS JUST A HOUSE ! --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@hotmail. com> wrote: From: Jennifer Warsing <warsingj@hotmail. com> Subject: [copinglist] Quotes of the day-OT To: "Yahoo Groups" <copinglist@yahoogro ups.com> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 10:20 AM   "If we could first know where we are...we could then better judge what to do and how to do it." -Abraham Lincoln   "Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." -Will Rogers   "Integrate what you believe in every single area of your life. Take your heart to work and ask the most and best of everybody else, too." -Meryl Streep Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. Learn more. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.

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From: Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@...>
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Re: Terrie - OT
To: copinglist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 6:18 PM

 

Yes I have a facebook account.  Let me try to find you on facebook and I will add you as a friend.

Rhonda

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From: Terrie Humphries <wrshumphries@ sbcglobal. net>
To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 9:50:01 PM
Subject: Re: [copinglist] Re: Terrie - OT

 

I accepted you name just the other day but for some reason it keeps saying that i didn't. Do you have a facebook account? --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@ yahoo.com> Subject: [copinglist] Re: Terrie - OT To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:19 PM   Yes I have. Rhonda From: Terrie Humphries <wrshumphries@ sbcglobal. net> To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:55:33 PM Subject: Re: [copinglist] I finally did it! - OT   Hey Rhonda,   I know what you mean about that mammogram thing. I hate that and the other thing to. We women have all the luck but then the guys have their own bit of fun.   I have a question for you. Have you been trying to invite me to be a friend on yahoo messenger. If you have I have not recognized your name and I have been hitting ignore and I apologize.   Terrie --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Rhonda Kneeland <rhonda.kneeland@ yahoo.com> Subject: [copinglist] I finally did it! - OT To: copinglist@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 4:43 PM   The men can ignore this.   Just wanted to let everyone know I finally got my first mammogram today after my doc fussing at me for the past two years to get one.  It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.  Results in a couple of weeks.   Rhonda