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Babies in Danger: Hypocrites Singh, Colquhoun, Goldacre, Ernst, etc.   Message List  
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BABIES IN DANGER: HYPOCRITES SINGH, COLQUHOUN, GOLDACRE, ERNST, ETC. DO
NOTHING...

DANGER: The most prolific (sometimes fatal) manipulators of children's spines
are **OBGYNs** who are committing (sometimes fatal) mass
birth-canal-closing/spinal manipulation child abuse (among other obvious
crimes). See below.

Not a peep of protest from silent hypocrites Singh et al...

SENSE ABOUT SCIENCE office team (Tracey Brown, Ellen Raphael, Leonor Sierra, and
Alice Tuff):

PLEASE - urge Voice of Young Science/VoYS to help the tiniest scientists-to-be -
help stop the mass OBGYN child abuse crimes...

ALSO: Please forward this email to all of your "Signatories to Keep Libel Laws
Out of Science."

They are supporting a silent hypocrite and his silent cronies...Hopefully they
too will help stop the mass OBGYN child abuse crimes.

OPEN LETTER archived for global access at
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/

Simon Singh, PhD
Trustee
Sense About Science
Registered Charity No. 1101114
25 Shaftesbury Avenue
London W1D 7EG
ENGLAND
T: +44 (0)20 7478 4380
Via
enquiries@...;VoYS@...;atuff@senseaboutscien\
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utscience.org;slane@...



Simon,



Yes, do continue with your criticisms of chiropractic - just don't forget to
criticize OBGYNs, the most prolific (sometimes fatal) manipulators of children's
spines.

You never replied to my long post titled, URGENT: British Chiropractic Assn vs.
Simon Singh, PhD.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2123

>>>>BEGIN excerpt of URGENT: British Chiropractic Assn vs. Simon Singh, PhD...



The pseudonymous "Gimpy" indicates that you paraphrased a British
Chiropractic Association/BCA web page in your reportedly libelous Guardian
article.
http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/the-libellous-simon-singh-article-on-c\
hiropractors/


You apparently missed the following BCA statement - it was the sentence
before the BCA info you apparently paraphrased:

"[B]irth is sometimes traumatic for both mother and baby, Chiropractic may
help...especially if forceps or other medical assistance was involved, or if
it was a breech birth..."
http://www.chiropractic-uk.co.uk/gfx/uploads/textbox/Happy%20families.pdf

[August 10, 2009 ADDENDUM: NON-SPINAL chiropractic - education - WILL help - no
"may" about it. But non-spinal chiropractic - education - requires that one
end one's mass-child-abuse-perpetuating/quack-promoting silence. It appears
that you have now been denied permission to appeal the decision against you in
BCA v. Singh [BMJ 2009;339:b3166].
http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/simon-singh-is-refused-permission-\
to-appeal/


[A QUESTION FOR YOU SIMON: Why not speak out (finally) about the MAJOR spinal
manipulation quackery of OBGYNs? Remember: Spinal manipulation of babies is
ABSOLUTELY CONTRAINDICATED when the birth canal is being senselessly narrowed by
the OBGYN or anyone else. END August 10, 2009 ADDENDUM.]

Birth is indeed sometimes tramatic - but birth is MADE traumatic -
routinely - by OBGYNs.

1. In MOST births: OBGYNs are senselessly using semisitting/dorsal delivery
thereby senselessly closing birth canals up to 30% (most births).

For the simple biomechanics and clinical and radiographic cites from the
medical literature - see Gastaldo TD. Letter. BIRTH. 1992;19(4):230-1.
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/toc/bir/19/4, FREE ACCESS.

2. WORSE: OBGYNs are senselessly KEEPING birth canals closed the "extra" up
to 30% (senselessly keeping women semisitting/dorsal) in the 1 in 10 births
when babies get stuck and forceps/vacuums are used. OBGYNs sometimes pull
so hard they rip spinal nerves out of tiny spinal cords. Some babies DIE -
some babies are PARALYZED - most babies "only" suffer gruesome spinal
manipulation - ALL spinal manipulation is gruesome with the birth canal kept
closed the "extra" up to 30%.

PREGNANT WOMEN: It is EASY to offer your baby the "extra" up to 30%. Just
don't let the OBGYN or midwife place you semisitting or dorsal as you push
your baby out your vagina. TALK to your OBGYN or midwife: LOTS of delivery
positions allow the birth canal to open maximally - like side-lying or
kneeling or standing - no need to squat - but squatting also alllows the
birth canal to open maximally. BEWARE THOUGH: Some OBGYNs and midwives
will let you "try" "alternative" delivery positions but will move you back
to semisitting/dorsal - they will close your birth canal the "extra" up to
30% - at the worst possible moment - as you push your baby out...

PROF. DAVID COLQUHOUN...

Like Dr. Singh, Prof. Colquhoun criticized spinal manipulation by doctors of
chiropractic (in a New Zealand medical journal)...

See Prof. Frizelle/OBGYN CAM crime in New Zealand
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2082

So I told Colquhoun about the bizarre birth-canal-closing/spinal
manipulation child abuse crime of OBGYNs (see the just cited post)...

Prof. Colquhoun offered a DODGE in reply; so I replied to him thusly...

COLQUHOUN'S HYPOCRISY



BEGIN excerpt of Dr. Gastaldo's email: Colquhoun's hypocrisy: Ignores
mass OBGYN *child abuse*/torture at University College London

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2098

### DAVID COLQUHOUN WROTE:

I know very little about obstetrics so I can't comment,

### WHAT?! Babies are being gruesomely - sometimes fatally manipulated by
LYING birth-canal-closing OBGYN CAM practitioners - and the PhD who is so
concerned about spinal manipulation of vertebral subluxations offers an "I
know very little about obstetrics" dodge?!

### David, you don't NEED to know anything about obstetrics to comment on
the first of the Four OB Lies: The pelvic diameters can't both change and
not change (OB Lie #1). Also there is the fact that OBGYN experts
indirectly ADMIT ON VIDEO that they are routinely closing birth canals up to
30%. The ACOG Shoulder Dystocia training video purports to show how to
allow the birth canal to open maximally when babies' shoulders get stuck -
which is the indirect video admission that OBGYNs know they are routinely
closing birth canals up to 30%. OB Lie #4 is perhaps the most vicious OB
lie - but you need to know the simple birth-canal-closing biomechanics of
semisitting. ACOGs ostensible delivery position - to allow the birth canal
to
open maximally in cases of shoulder dystocia - actually keeps it closed the
"extra" up to 30%.

### Fortunately, the biomechanics of semisitting are SIMPLE. I noted them
in my 2005 email/Open Letter to Susan Standring, PhD, DSc, Editor-in-Chief,
BRITISH GRAY'S ANATOMY, 39th edition, 2005, King's College London:

See Dr. Gastaldo corrects BRITISH GRAY'S ANATOMY
http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med/2005-03/0459.html

### Susan shouts her silence. I'll cc her via susan.standring@....

### David says:

But I do know about evidence.

### PhDs do indeed know about evidence. You are IGNORING evidence of a
massive birth-canal-closing/SPINAL MANIPULATION crime. OBGYNs are
"performing" obviously contraindicated spinal manipulation - sometimes
killing babies - sometimes paralyzing them - telling cover-up lies.

### Don't forget David, you are a torture protester, as in,

"[I]f you really want to stop [abuse and torture] what you need are
leaders...who have the moral fiber to make it absolutely clear that abuse
and torture are intolerable in a civilized society."
--David Colquhoun. Science (2005, 307,1873)
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/Pharmacology/dc-bits/corrie.html

"In the light of recent events, I simply cannot bring myself to visit the
USA again, until civilised standards are restored....Bush authorised
torture...Doctors' involvement in torture..."
--David Colquhoun
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/Pharmacology/dc-bits/corrie.html

### As OBGYNs engage in a MASSIVE (sometimes fatal)
birth-canal-closing/spinal manipulation crime, you attack MINORITY spinal
manipulators (doctors of chiropractic) for not having scientific evidence
for their vertebral subluxation theory and for "kill[ing] the occasional
patient." ("D.D. Palmer...finally found a way to get rich by removing
entirely imaginary 'subluxations'...[Chiropractic] has the disadvantage of
being surrounded by gobbledygook about 'subluxations' and, more importantly,
it kills the occasional patient.")
http://dcscience.net/?p=241

### You call for prosecution of chiropractors...Why not also call for
prosecution of OBGYNs?

[ADDENDUM Aug. 25, 2008: Chiropractic physicians are being forced to
economically compete with an obvious criminal enterprise - organized
medicine.]



END excerpt of Dr. Gastaldo's email: Colquhoun's hypocrisy: Ignores
mass OBGYN *child abuse*/torture at University College London

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2098

Whereas the NEW ZEALAND Chiropractic Association/NZCA is threatening to sue
COLQUHOUN for libel...

The BRITISH Chiropractic Association/BCA has threatened to sue SINGH for
libel...

A pseudonymous blogger named "Gimpy" wrote in defense of Singh...

(QUOTING SINGH MENTIONING EDZARD ERNST IN THE GUARDIAN/UK):

"I can confidently label [chiropractic] treatments as bogus because I have
co-authored a book about alternative medicine with the world's first
professor of complementary medicine, Edzard Ernst."
http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/the-libellous-simon-singh-article-on-c\
hiropractors/


"GIMPY" ADDED:

"Simon Singh has indeed co-authored a book with Professor Ernst."

EDZARD ERNST, MD...

Edzard Ernst, MD has for years been ignoring the birth-canal-closing/spinal
manipulation crime of OBGYNs...

Either that or Prof. Ernst never received my emails....

On Dec. 29, 2003, I wrote to Edzard Ernst, MD via Edzard.Ernst@...

http://cyclingforums.com/showthread.php?t=69640

[EDZARD ERNST] THE POOR FELLOW IS SUFFERING A **NON-SPINAL** CONDITION -
pathologic selective criticism:

Edzard criticizes chiropractic spinal manipulators but ignores medical
(MD-obstetrician) spinal
manipulators!

It may be that the only way to correct Edzard's non-spinal condition is via
continual non-spinal
chiropractic adjusting (education)...See the quote from the Founder of
chiropractic below.

Edzard writes:

"Chiropractic manipulation is...used...in an increasing number of
cases...for NON-SPINAL
conditions...[like]...fibromyalgia, carpal tunnel syndrome, infantile colic,
otitis media,
dysmenorrhoea and chronic pelvic pain...Only very few randomised clinical
trials of chiropractic
manipulation as a treatment of non-spinal conditions exist. The claim that
this approach is
effective for such conditions is not based on data from rigorous clinical
trials." --Edzard Ernst,
MD [N Z Med J. 2003 Aug 8;116(1179):U539. PubMed abstract, emphasis added.]

OPEN LETTER (archived for global access***)

Edzard Ernst MD PhD FRCP (Edin.) Complementary Medicine Peninsula Medical
School Universities of
Exeter and Plymouth 25 Victoria Park Road Exeter EX2 4NT, United Kingdom
Edzard.Ernst@...

Edzard,

You are to be commended for studying the work of minority spinal
manipulators (chiropractic
physicians).

But you are still ignoring the *most prolific* spinal manipulators -
GRUESOME spinal manipulators -
MD-obstetricians...

Dr. DD Palmer, Founder of chiropractic said: "[T]here are some persons who
are so mentally put up
that they will need continual adjusting." (DD, p. 801

Edzard, you are obviously so mentally put up that you will need continual
adjusting...

As I've previously noted for you, MD and MB-obstetricians are senselessly
closing birth canals up to
30%, killing an estimated six babies per day with vacuum-assisted spinal
manipulation alone...

See again: MDs/MBs: If you must pull on baby's head - and sometimes you
must...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2132 --DELETED after Atty
Schroeder visited Amsterdam Netherlands, home of the deleter/CENSOR Kevin
Thos. McGann, DC...

Alternate URL:
http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:wpseArTjnEcJ:www.healthcareforums.org/viewt\
opic.php%3Ft%3D8047+%22MDs/MBs:+If+you+must+pull%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us


I may have forgotten to mention that the American College of Obstetricians
and Gynecologists/ACOG
*admits* (in its shoulder dystocia video) that OBs are routinely closing
birth canals (the video
purports to show OBs how to open the birth canal when shoulders get stuck).

Bizzarely, the ACOG method for opening the birth canal - PROPER McRoberts
maneuver - actually keeps
the birth canal closed.

See IMPROPER McRoberts can save tiny lives and tiny limbs...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-
list/message/1308 --DELETED; see above.

Edzard, in addition to the mass SPINAL child abuse (closing birth
canals/gruesomely manipulating
babies' spines)...

MDs and MBs are committing mass IMMUNOLOGIC child abuse...

See CDC puppet (Wexler's IAC) promotes Exclusion Day vaccination fraud...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-
list/message/2170 --DELETED; see above.



BEGIN IMMUNOLOGIC CHILD ABUSE ADDENDUM Aug. 25, 2008:


Steve Harris, MD arrogantly boasts:

"Without enforcement, there is no law. Without law, there is no crime.
These are elementary principles. Get an adult to explain them to you."
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.pregnancy/msg/
28866f3384801ae9

Dr. Harris' arrogant boast came in reponse to my pointing yet ANOTHER mass
medical crime - fraudulent vaccination promotion with PLANNED endangerment
of VACCINATED children.

MDs are promoting PLANNED endangerment of VACCINATED children.

When parents ask about vaccine exemptions for their children, they are
told
the bald lie that only their vaccine-exempt children need to be sent
home/protected during disease outbreaks.

Since many vaccinated children are not immunized by their vaccinations,
ALL
children need to be sent home/protected during disease outbreaks.

All 50 state vaccination laws need to be changed immediately.

See TIME magazine on chiropractors vs. vaccination
http://groups.google.com/group/ misc.kids.pregnancy/msg/5d9a066386e4ef2f

I am in FAVOR of vaccination - I am just not in favor of MDs
**fraudulently promoting vaccination** as they fail to promote
breastfeeding
as free daily immunizations that reportedly make MD-needle-vaccinations
work
better...

FRAUDULENT BREASTFEEDING PROMOTION BY MDs AND CDC...

MDs and CDC are failing to explicitly state that breastfeedings are
IMMUNIZATIONS

MDs and CDC should immediately start informing the public that
breastfeeding
women scan for pathogens and manufacture IMMUNIZATIONS which they inject
with their breasts - daily.

CDC's vaunted National Immunization [sic] Program doesn't even call
breastfeedings immunizations or mention that breastfeeding women immunize
far more babies than MDs and reportedly make MD-needle-vaccinations work
better.

What woman informed of these simple facts is going to fail to at least
attempt to breastfeed/immunize her baby daily?

MDs are mysteriously ignoring a SIMPLE way to make the breastfeeding
(immunization) and vaccination rates skyrocket...

It's mass IMMUNOLOGIC child abuse.



END IMMUNOLOGIC CHILD ABUSE ADDENDUM Aug. 25, 2008...


Rest assured, Edzard...

I'll offer my non-spinal adjustments whenever I think your own non-spinal
chiropractic adjustments
(your articles) need adjusting.

I hope you'll eventually reciprocate and adjust any subluxations you find in
my non-spinal
chiropractic adjustments.

Of course, if you never got my previous emails - or just never read them -
then I must sincerely
apologize for suggesting otherwise.

But I suspect I am right - you are suffering from the non-spinal condition
called pathologic
selective criticism - mothers and babies be damned.

Please stop suffering - please stop mothers and babies from suffering.

Thanks for reading,

Sincerely,

Todd

Ds. Gastaldo todd@...



>>>>END excerpt of URGENT: British Chiropractic Assn vs. Simon Singh, PhD...


I hope you will respond to this post - by publicly protesting the massive
birth-canal-closing/SPINAL MANIPULATION crime (and other crimes) of OBGYNs.



Thanks.



Sincerely,



Todd



Dr. Gastaldo

Hillsboro, Oregon

USA

todd@...








**DCs** (chiropractic physicians) are committing (radiation) healthcare crime.
Initially MANDATED by Congress (likely at the behest of AMA), the ongoing
chiropractic radiation crime is now optional.



I have asked the US District Court for the District of Oregon to order the US
Attorney to simply stop the massive medical and chiropractic crimes.



See my Motion to Dismiss case number 09-310-HU at the URL below.



EVERYONE should be urging his/her US Attorney to stop the massive medical and
chiropractic crimes. [People in other countries should contact their own law
enforcement officers.]



Possible problem: All US Attorneys are governed by the US Attorney General and
US Attorney General Eric Holder's wife is an OBGYN who likely has committed/is
committing the obvious OBGYN crimes.



Until law enforcement takes action, everyone should at least REPORT the obvious
medical and chiropractic crimes - and appeal to HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS to help
stop the crimes...



Health CRIME is not health CARE - this is SIMPLE healthcare reform.



Feel free to forward this email far and wide...



Sincerely,



Todd



Dr. Gastaldo

Hillsboro, Oregon

USA

todd@...




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